Hey,
I just got my (Orange UK) TYTN II. The Orange setup is downright HORRIBLE. The thing doesn't move, and their home screen really stinks.
I really need to flash the ROM. I read many topics and stickies here (such as Kaiser ROM_Flashing FAQ and SPL Questions, but I feel like I'm still missing things. As this is my 1st time ever - I'm afraid I'll brick it. I really need your help guys.
I'm undecided between using an official ROM (which one?), using NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3 or RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship . What I need is a solid, dependable PDA/Phone/mobile desktop replacement. I'm not planning on gaming etc so graphics speed (while nice) is not all important.
Which one of these ROMs or other do you recommend?
Let's assume i use NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3 (my current favorite). Would it (or the ROM you recommend) work on the Orange TYTN II?
I never connected the unit to my PC yet, or installed anything on it. Before flashing should i install ActiveSync or anything else on my PC, or just connect HTC to USB and go?
The way I see it, these are the steps for flashing. Did I miss anything?
Take out my SD card.
Connect HTC to computer using USB cable
Run kaiser-HardSPL.exe on desktop PC
Follow on-screen instructions for installing kaiser-HardSPL.exe onto the device.
Now that HardSPL is installed on device, copy NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3.exe (or other ROM) to my desktop PC and run it from there, following instructions.
That's all.
Will installing kaiser-HardSPL.exe automatically remove the Orange CID-Lock, or do i have to do anything else?
To install the ROM, do I need to use HTC_ROM_TOOL.exe, or any other tool, or just work using the steps above?
Does the RUU...exe run on the desktop, or should i run it on the device?
If i brick it, is this reversible (by me or by a lab)?
I hate sending the "damsel in distress" thing - but this is just how i feel now. Would REALLY appreciate your help.
Kim
Here is what I would do.
Since you already spent what it looks like some time trying to flash your device. I will give you a couple of hints.
First I would flash to Jockys1.1 HardSPL. http://www.4shared.com/file/46447471/7ae96b57/Jockyw2001_HardSPL_-_SuperCID.html
This will allow you to CID unlock your device really easily.
To install HardSPL do this.
1.) connect your device to you PC
2.) Copy the JumpSPL.exe to your main memory of your device. Remove any SD card you may have
3.) run the jumpspl.exe to your device. Hit continue. It will go to the bootloader (tri-color screen)
4.) When you device says USB at the bottom, unplug the USB cord from the phone and wait 10 seconds.
5.) Reconnect the phone to the PC. Run the HardSPL
It should flash really quickly.
Next to security unlock / CID unlock your device.
Follow the instructions that came with the download. Its a real simple process. Be sure that you read all instructions to a T.
Check this thread if you run into any problems. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Happy flashing.
Ok, I'll bite...
You are definetly reading the right stuff, but I'll be honest, things have changed and evolved here (with all the new SPL's and stuff) so even for me that did hardspl back in December when I got my Tilt, I was a bit overwhelmed when I got my new replacement Tilt last week and had to start looking at doing this all again. So let me try to step you through what I just recently did and has worked for me. Remember, YMMV...
* First, I opted to go with Olipro's CID/SIM Unlocker this time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583&highlight=supercid
A bonus here is that it also does Security unlock now, so its an all in one tool, and the GUI interface that Olipro put together makes this really simple and pretty flawless (just read and follow the steps in the thread and read and follow everything your PC and Phone tell you to do).
* At this point you are now unlocked and ready to start your life of flashing and tweaking. (Unless you are really strong, be prepared to become addicted to trying to find the "perfect" rom ). I personally opted not to do one of the 3.x SPL's yet. Personally I've never seen the hesitation that so many complain about. I may still look at doing this to see if something improves, but for me I haven't found it necessary. But if you want to do that, do it now.
* Now hard reset your phone (good practice and I tend to do this a lot to make sure its nice and clean before AND after I flash a custom rom). Either use the Clear Storage icon in your Settings area, or hold down the two soft keys while hitting the soft reset button at the bottom. Note holding down the soft keys way can be tricky if you have big fingers like me, so I usually go the Clear Storage method.
* Now go get the rom of your choice. I would personally recommend either L26 V5, L26 V9, or Garmin DK1.2 (I'm still on Garmin DK1 and loving it but will probably move to 1.2 soon). I've found all 4 of these to be very stable ROMs (My phone is important to me for work, so stability is a must, and I can't put up with a bunch of bugs that people tend to avoid or live with in some custom roms). But the rom you choose is really a personal choice for you. What I like may be very different than what you like. So read the threads and try to find one that fits your style. (NOTE: This may be terrible for some to hear, but while I love what Garmin did with his roms and the extra work he put into it, the custom icons are a little over the top for my taste (they are wonderful, but I've used Win Mobile too long and find it hard to find things). So I pulled out the custom icons (search his thread for my post on how I did this if you want).
Honestly thats really all there is. Once you complete the Olipro CID/SIM unlock, your phone is going to be very hard to brick by just flashing roms, and the security unlock on it should (SHOULD) save you from nasty radios that come out trying to lock you to them.
Good luck and welcome to XDA...
hard SPL is the Key (instructions above), also make sure you flash a new radio if you want to use a new rom, Death V4, L26 V9, and Garmin are good, if you want to try a really cool total makeover checkout Gullum Throttle Multilanguage
justkim said:
I never connected the unit to my PC yet, or installed anything on it. Before flashing should i install ActiveSync or anything else on my PC, or just connect HTC to USB and go?
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Everything Alltheway and Mfrazz said, but Yes you should have Activesync installed first. Right now I'm on
"[July 11] HyperDragon III WM6.1 WWE ROM 19588 - 19591 - 19915 (Diamond & Xperia ROM)"
but I've tried many of the available ROM's and most have something good to offer. Just keep trying until you find one that works for you. and pay attention to the radio and SPL recommended for the rom you use.
You posted the same speel here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379411
justkim said:
Hey,
I just got my (Orange UK) TYTN II. The Orange setup is downright HORRIBLE. The thing doesn't move, and their home screen really stinks.
I really need to flash the ROM. I read many topics and stickies here, but as this is my 1st time ever - I'm afraid I'll brick it. I really need your help guys.
I'm undecided between using an official ROM (which one?), using NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3 or RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship . What I need is a solid, dependable PDA/Phone/mobile desktop replacement. I'm not planning on gaming etc so graphics speed (while nice) is not all important.
Which one of these ROMs or other do you recommend?
Let's assume i use NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3 (my current favorite). Would it (or the ROM you recommend) work on the Orange TYTN II?
I never connected the unit to my PC yet, or installed anything on it. Before flashing should i install ActiveSync or anything else on my PC, or just connect HTC to USB and go?
The way I see it, these are the steps for flashing. Did I miss anything?
Take out my SD card.
Connect HTC to computer using USB cable
Run kaiser-HardSPL.exe on desktop PC
Follow on-screen instructions for installing kaiser-HardSPL.exe onto the device.
Now that HardSPL is installed on device, copy NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3.exe (or other ROM) to my desktop PC and run it from there, following instructions.
That's all.
Will installing kaiser-HardSPL.exe automatically remove the Orange CID-Lock, or do i have to do anything else?
To install the ROM, do I need to use HTC_ROM_TOOL.exe, or any other tool, or just work using the steps above?
Does the RUU...exe run on the desktop, or should i run it on the device?
If i brick it, is this reversible (by me or by a lab)?
I hate sending the "damsel in distress" thing - but this is just how i feel now. Would REALLY appreciate your help.
Kim
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Read, more and you will find everything to know about flashing ROM's and what advantages and disadvantages they have.
Hi, in regards to the rom you choose, it's tough for anyone to answer for you. You may find it's even tough for you to choose on your own. The main thing comes down to knowledge i guess. You mentioned that you want stable...well, while most roms are fairly stable, some of the "special features" can cause instability elsewhere. Not sure how much background you may or may not have but with no knowledge of how to remedy such problems, this might prove to be a headache to get some bonus bells and whistles. On the flip side...light roms often tend to be more stable, however, you will have to spend the time seeking out and loading up the things you want. This is nice in the respect that you get exactly what you want. In the end...the real key is trial and error though.
I've tried a good portion of the roms floating around and all of the current:
If stability is your main concern right now, I'd say one of the ROMeOS roms....they seem to be rock solid and fast enough. Not really any incompatibility to speak of as far as I found (or read). However, you will most likely want to add to it as only the primary apps are included.
If special features and tons of software that you may or may not use are your thing than pretty much any of the others will suffice as they are all pretty good at this point. Just remember though, you may find some unfamiliar territory.
Personally, I like to break and fix things so I jump around a bit. But in the end, when I'm not in the mood to play, I tend to choose a stable / light rom and customize it to my preference or completely rebuild it to meet my day to day needs.
In the end, it's all trial and error to see what suits you best....keeping that in mind, you may want to look into UC (User Customization) or Sashimi. These are autmated installers that will speed up the trial and error.
Something to keep in mind though (if you are new to WM). While WM isn't much out of the box, it can virtually be anything you want it to be. However, it will require a little time and effort on your part.
Oh...and please, please, please never ask how to change time format. I swear this must be the most commonly asked question on XDA. Sometimes feels like a thousand times a day or in a single thread. (If you don't believe me, search one of the L26 Rom threads =) ). If you come across this stumbling block, here's a hint: on the time format picker, although WM only ever shows two options on screen at once, you can scroll up and down. All common format ARE included. TBH: I don't know how people don't see this one on their own before even posting despite the millions of times it's been answered here
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Note: This is a custom firmware but it is DEFINITELY the best and should have been a company of its own! Damned it isn't. It even lets your mono bluetooth headset listen to music!!!!!
ROM OF THE YEAR!!!
Since HTC issued new IPL/SPL version 2.xx.0001, all tools that we use to cook the customize rom to be a single nk.nbf file can not be used because nk.nbf structure are different from the previous version. We were trying to hard to solve the problem. Futunately, we found the new method that save and convenince, because it will not touch with bootloader. Just active sync prophet with pc then run UPGRADE_ROM.bat.
This method can be used with any version of IPL/SPL of SPV M600, Qtek S200, i-mate JAMin, Dopod 818 Pro, XDA neo. Need not to unlock CID.
DAMobiz Customized Rom can be download from here:
http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/...n_Upgrade_Rom_for_IPLSPL_2.15.0001_v.1.02.rar
Step by step to upgrade rom
1. Backup all data in Prophet, then hard reset it. You can also use the method of Clear Storage in menu, Start -- Settings -- Clear Storage.
2. After Hard Reset, tap at the screen 1 time, and stop at Align Screen.
3. Plug usb cable at Prophet to start ActiveSync, then click at Cancel.
4. Prophet will connect with PC as Guest.
5. Go back to folder that you unrar (www.rarlab.com) then click at UPGRADE_ROM.bat.
Wait....
Wait.... It's now finished with extended rom, then the next is OS rom.
6. After finish, you may hard reset by press and hold at Camera and Voice Dial, then depress at reset. Still hold camera and voice dail until you get the screen as below:
Press at send to format, then it reboots.
At the buttom left, it shows "PDAMobiz.com" that is pdamobiz customized rom. To get all program of pdamobiz customized rom, you have to let extended rom program install until it complete.
PDAMobiz customized rom has only 3 Thailand operators, you may add your own file before upgrade rom to "extrom" PC folder and autoconfig.txt to have your own country autoconfig.
Plenty of wonderful software, you may see the whole pictcure at: (sorry there is no translation)
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60019
If during upgrading you have some problem, and it stuck at bootloader 3 colors screen. Just download below files, run upgrade rom with that file, after you can boot normally, you can upgrade this customized rom again, becuase this customize rom need active sync only.
http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/Prophet/RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship.exe
Thank you very much to itsme, the Administrator of http://www.spv-developers.com for his utilities, machinegod for enablerapi, buzz, the Admin of www.buzzdev.net for unlocker of prophet extended rom, RuChonburi for his customized rom.
By the way I make 3 very small utilities, those are sleep4 (wait 4 second), clattr.exe (clear file attribute of \extended_rom) and roattrib.exe (set read only attribute for files in extended rom), to automize the process to 1 click at UPGRADE_ROM.bat
Caution! There are some risks to upgrade rom, please use your own risk, we shall not responsible for any damage.
(TAKEN FROM A SITE CALLLED en.pdamobiz.com who created this ROM! They rock..forget about Imate roms and anything else! )
[Guys n' Gals - I've been asked to pin this. If you feel it doesn't need pinning, PM me. If you feel it's incorrect or misleading, let me know. If you are happy with it, comment below]
1. Anybody tried that on JAMin?
2. Any succes stories on DOWNGRADING back to JAMin Rom after this?
3. Is it FASTER(the overall working process) than latest I-mate's one?
4. Russian dialpad working with this one?
Not before i receive answers to that shall i try this out as if it's no satisfying on 3rd question there's no need in it for me, as i know how to install cabz myself, even though it may not be in 1 click, but since we're out of battery dead-data lost problem it's not a thing to worry anymore, and i cant say if i really need all that bunched into my tiny device.
1. Anybody tried that on JAMin? - YES!! ME!!!
2. Any succes stories on DOWNGRADING back to JAMin Rom after this? - You can never downgrade with Prophet after you hit the version 2.x systme without using 3rd party software roms.
3. Is it FASTER(the overall working process) than latest I-mate's one? - It autostarts with Omap clock at 240 speed and overall its about 3x faster than Imates latest 2.13 rom.
4. Russian dialpad working with this one?
- Yes
5. Note this - Battery Lasts longer (dont know how they did it. but it gave me 7 hours talk time compared to ImateJamins usual 4-5 NON STOP. weird...
More Notes - It has lots of nice software inside and basically makes you feel like its a fully loaded system and yet faster than ALL (Not just the last) Imate JamIn one. If you need my creditibility go to Imate jamin offiucial support forum (clubimate) and see my id shivam / shivamxp. Posted alot there before I dumped the Jamin Rom for this baby!
Not before i receive answers to that shall i try this out as if it's no satisfying on 3rd question there's no need in it for me, as i know how to install cabz myself, even though it may not be in 1 click, but since we're out of battery
ps - forgot to same . the exntended rom is also unlocked by default, a nice set of media players that play almost everything in video n music - mp4, divx ,etc. It has a great file manager. Bluetooth headset can grab any programs music or video whether it be media player or real media or some other program. basically all sound from ur device can get forwarded to ur MONO bluetooth (now even regular bts without stereo can get great sound n music).
Man, i DONT want device to start with omapclock and god, feels like u r so Xcited 'bout this that seems like YOU made this Rom. If there's no rollback, i pass it out.
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/PDAforum_posts.asp?TID=440&PN=1
are the guys who made it ...PDAMOBIZ...but i used it and was shocked to see it just so d*** good.
Ive used Prophet and seen it suck up as bad as an O2mini (no offence HTC Mag guys)...i used to have a o2mini ..moved to this and definitely both are sucky (speed n feature) just the compactness. Seeing this new rom, everything that made my views so negative are gone EXCEPT i still want a bigger screen the real vga..
anyways, dont install it if you dont wanna...just dont blame me if two weeks later theres a big hype and you say i didnt listen cuz i was too over occupied or wanted to wait...you can wait all you want...you sure wont lose anything..youll just be delaying your gain.
Look im comparing this rom against the current Roms of "Imate" and IMHO this rocks..sure wait as much as you want, but then again a guy who made similar posts earlier (check my post logs) about Imate Software and support on the forums there sucking...well your choice.
heyy shivam, looks promising, but can u possibly upload the rom somewhere? the link u supplied is ridiculously slow (1.3kb/s)
thx
lookin forward to trying this out as im not too impressed with my spv m600 after coming from the great jam
for the person who use XDA Neo, don't use this rom now as before using this rom, it is neccessary to unkock CID first, but the programmer of this rom said that he still haven't known how to unlock CID for device that has IPL 2.15.0001 and SPL 2.15.0001.Fortunately, he said that in a couple days, he will have a solution for this problem (to help you unlock CID) and then you will be able to use this rom on xda neo.
I have not much knowledge about this pda phone. However, I am Thai so that why I can understand all the topic in the original link of this rom. So I just want to translate this point to you guy to prevent you from wasting your time and any harm that might happen to your device.
Anyway, this rom is very good rom, have evreything you want, help your mobile much faster than before, and will help you a lot, so wait until programmer has solution for CID then upload it.
Has anyone with a Qtek S200 tried this?
I want to take the plunge and I have done lots and lots of ROM mods and upgrades to my former Himalaya and a friend's Blue Angel, but I would love to know if there is some way to backup my original ROM beforehand.
Thanks for the find tho!
P.S.- Can someone please upload this ROM to the XDADevs FTP????? the TX is really slooooooooow..... .4 kbps!!!
God bless!
Rayan
Ist it possible not to install some of the included programs ? (like vxutil, Regeditor, CallFilter, image maker, calculator,opera and Realplayer of course ...)
Like deleting them from the extrom before upgrading?
Reason is, that i already use some nice programs that i got used to, and i dont want to waste some extra memory on programs i will most likely not need.
Edit: any way to change the omap clock Startup MHz ?
Greetings
In order to avoid installing any unneeded software on the ExtROM, just Soft Reset just before they install after a Hard Reset.
Then you should go to the extended rom and manually install whatever apps you want by clicking on them.
Do you already downloaded this rom?
Can you please Upload it to the xda developers ftp?
That would be great...
Thanks!
Rayan
@Rayan - i know how to avoid installing the extrom - i was wondering if some of the programs are included in the normal rom.
Didn't download it yet - i will wait for some more experiences
Rayan said:
Can someone please upload this ROM to the XDADevs FTP????? the TX is really slooooooooow..... .4 kbps!!! [/b]
Rayan
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Finished upload:
_ftp://[email protected]/Uploads/prophet-roms/Customize_rom_PDAMobiz_Editon_Upgrade_Rom_for_IPLSPL_2.15.0001_v.1.02.rar
G-Luck!-)
Thanks for the upload matey.
Howdy Boys and Girls
Well I took the leap and installed the Rom described here, on a new Imate Jamin I bought last week down here in Australia.
The existing Rom on the Jamin was the latest from the Imate website.
"JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship"
First of all let me say that after upgrading to the Pdamobiz version, I was able to restore the Rom back to the original Imate version.
That should answer the questions of a few wondering if it's not all it's made out to be you can always go back to what you had.
Onto the new Rom.
The Jamin I have according to Omapclock runs at 180Mhz. With this Rom it was running at 240Mhz and I can tell you now this Rom is SLOW, very SLOW. With the original Imate Rom installed clocked to 240Mhz it screams along very nicely.
Some of the Apps installed with this Rom are also commercial versions requiring purchasing or "other ways around purchasing".
In fact come to think of it most of the apps were pretty ****ty and neither here nor there. Just my opinion expressed here.
Ultimately it's up to the individual preferences here and I'm certainly not taking anything away from the people who spent the time putting it together. It's a good effort.
In the end I installed it ... had a play with it for an hour or so ... dumped the Rom onto an SD card and restored the orginal Rom.
When I get around to it I'll install a few of the goodies like the A2DP stereo audio and the Extended Rom patch. They work
Thanks to original poster for making this Rom available in the first place and the guys who put it together.
Now it's up to you
Regards to all
Thanks for the info, Nudester. I was about to install this one on my XDA Neo (running JAMin on it now), but stopped after I read your post. Also, I do not like the application programs in that ROM, too, since I have purchased much better programs already. Your info is very helpful. thanks.
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Rayan said:
Can someone please upload this ROM to the XDADevs FTP????? the TX is really slooooooooow..... .4 kbps!!! [/b]
Rayan
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Finished upload:
_ftp://[email protected]/Uploads/prophet-roms/Customize_rom_PDAMobiz_Editon_Upgrade_Rom_for_IPLSPL_2.15.0001_v.1.02.rar
G-Luck!-)
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Thanks lvlx!
I'll DL tonite!
Peace!
ok, i installed this (thx lvlx for the upload, that link was just agrhhhhhhh ), and for the most part, i agree with nudester. speed is ok, althought i was getting better/more stable operation with the latest dopod rom on which it is based when overclocked with omap clock. a lot of the utilities are on the rom, and not the extended rom which means u cant remove them, and to be honest, most are overkill, like the are about 4 different sim utilities, nevertheless, some are pretty damn good. however i just dont like havin stuff that i dont need/use.
PROS:
decent rom (stable and quick)
loads of cool utilities
downgradeable
good with storage memory
pre-configured with most of the registry edits for speed, gps, etc....
CONS:
some utilities/programs are trials/unregestered
most utilities/programs are built into the rom
overkill, i mean why do u need all that stuff anyways?
---did i keep it? -----> NO
id rather have a clean oem rom that id play with myself and install what i want.
fair play to the guys at pdamobiz.com for creating it, coz it is good, and it gave me a lot of ideas, but it just wasnt my cup of tea 8)
Hello Every One,
I installed the ROM and agree with Nudester. Please Nudester tell me how to go back and load my original imate JAMIN ROM.
Hi all!
I've been regularly testing new ROM releases by the gurus here at XDA on my AT&T Tilt. Each install has been everything from a "close to the brick" experience, to extreme jubilation with new found speed and features. But, one issue keeps re-occuring and I'd like to ask what the best practice is for loading a new ROM image?
I ask this because it seems that each load brings new oddities and new problems that seem to occur due to past ROM images being on the device. Like right now I'm playing with a clean AT&T based ROM. Strangely though the HTC home screen is not included with this ROM, yet after the first load, whamo! the HTC home screen showed up. It was not in the installed programs list, so I couldn't easily remove it. And installs (to create an image that could be removed) failed a number of times before it worked enough to change the installation.
That's just one scenario. And I've had a lot more in very interesting ways. Like for instance, Battery Status 1.04 Ext has a seriously stong liking to my phone. That program I'd like to keep, but it's odd that it is always there, no matter what I do. And usually in some odd state that makes it hard to use until I pound it hard enough.
Also, the time seems to odd too. Every other ROM install, I'm forced to reset the time on the device at initial startup. Otherwise the time is just fine on the even number of installs.
So, what's the best routine of tasks to complete to ensure that a ROM installs as cleanly and problem free as possible. Is there a way to "clear" memory properly so nothing is left over? Dutty once helped out by suggesting that I install the OEM shipping ROM first before anything new. But that even doesn't work 100% of the time. Any suggestions are very helpful.
Thanks all for the Great ROMs. I'm having a great time playing with all the new features and abilities you guys give these awesome little machines.
Scott
weird...
The only things I can think of are obvious, but here it goes. Have you tried hard resetting / clear storage before you flash a new ROM? Are these programs being installed from your computer activesync or something? Have you tried removing your memory card?
Good Luck
hello people i am slowly understanding this ppc thing and i get the rom thing but how am i to know what rom to flash for my needs i know some wil say just try them but i dont have time to keep reflashing if anyone wants to help i use my phone for email, video (slingbox,youtube) and music i also like to change up my homescreen often oh and i browse a lot too thanx whom ever helps
Read, I know its repetitive but it is worth it. Or do like me and many others and just follow the steps i.e. hard spl etc... and just start flashing. I must warn you though, it is addicting and can cause relationship problems
swtaltima said:
Read, I know its repetitive but it is worth it. Or do like me and many others and just follow the steps i.e. hard spl etc... and just start flashing. I must warn you though, it is addicting and can cause relationship problems
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Yeah they may be sending me to Flashers Annonymous
flashing then loading all my apps back say i got 30 or so apps how long should i expect to be sitting at my pc?
UC is coming fellow junkies!
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UC is coming fellow junkies!
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Maybe I'm an idiot but what is UC?
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I would recommend you flash to dutty's v4 rom. Flashing takes about 10 minutes. After that you start customizing your device by changing registry settings, installing cabs, changing themes, etc... That process usually takes me 1-2 hours depending on how thoroughly I want to customize. There are some backup programs out there to restore all your backed-up settings to the new rom, but I find it sort-of fun to go through and reinstall all that stuff manually. That way I am constantly getting a better idea of exactly what I want on my phone. I made a habit of saving all cab files I download into a "cab" folder on my storage card, so after I flash I can go through the folder and install the cabs from one central location. I would highly recommend flashing roms if you want to get the most out of your phone. It is the best way to learn about windows mobile. A couple of days your first flash/setup, you will feel a strange urge to reflash a new rom and do it all over again, learning more and more each time. Next thing you know, you will be fiending for that new rom update to come out from your favorite chef. My phone, to me, is way more than just a phone. It is my favorite hobby. A healthy hobby. I don't know what I would do without a PDA to come home and mess around with. I just can't express how much I enjoy tinkering with my pocket PC. So flash away my friend! You won't regret it I promise!
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Wow I am seriously impressed. This will alleviate the problem with having to re-install every app. This is truly going to be incredible. When is thing going to be released. I'm in a ROM flashing mood, but then again when am I not.
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I would recommend you flash to dutty's v4 rom. Flashing takes about 10 minutes. After that you start customizing your device by changing registry settings, installing cabs, changing themes, etc... That process usually takes me 1-2 hours depending on how thoroughly I want to customize. There are some backup programs out there to restore all your backed-up settings to the new rom, but I find it sort-of fun to go through and reinstall all that stuff manually. That way I am constantly getting a better idea of exactly what I want on my phone. I made a habit of saving all cab files I download into a "cab" folder on my storage card, so after I flash I can go through the folder and install the cabs from one central location. I would highly recommend flashing roms if you want to get the most out of your phone. It is the best way to learn about windows mobile. A couple of days your first flash/setup, you will feel a strange urge to reflash a new rom and do it all over again, learning more and more each time. Next thing you know, you will be fiending for that new rom update to come out from your favorite chef. My phone, to me, is way more than just a phone. It is my favorite hobby. A healthy hobby. I don't know what I would do without a PDA to come home and mess around with. I just can't express how much I enjoy tinkering with my pocket PC. So flash away my friend! You won't regret it I promise!
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Very good post. I couldn't agree more.
What will be really incredible is if we can get all XDA chefs to adopt UC. Think about it. Just flash any UC compliant rom with your SD card inserted and you're up and running. Automatic CAB installs/XML provisioning will allow you to put everything back exactly as it was without touching your phone.
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What will be really incredible is if we can get all XDA chefs to adopt UC. Think about it. Just flash any UC compliant rom with your SD card inserted and you're up and running. Automatic CAB installs/XML provisioning will allow you to put everything back exactly as it was without touching your phone.
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That would be great but you will have to be the one to sell it!
I tried something like this about a month ago (written with Mort Script) and it was great. The only issue I had was that it would try to re-install all my apps after every boot.
After flashing your ROMs and seeing that you do quality work, I'm sure it's ready to go.
If all the chefs sign on ..... you're kicking the doors wide open for a flashing frenzy ..... Flash and out the door in 17 mins
I just got my first pocket pc in the mail yesterday. First off, I absolutely love it. I got the wizard - it was a very good price on ebay for the features, even if it is a couple years old (I think?). Regardless, it's a huge upgrade from a standard cell phone for a small price.
I've never used one before nor used windows mobile. It came with WM5 and I've managed to unlock and update it to WM6. I read somewhere that TNT.1437 was a stable release, so I installed TNT.1437 with TouchFlo. It seems fine, except I still get clocknot.exe notification every time I start (even after disabling auto update for time).
My main question is this - is TNT.1437 still a good release or is it getting old? If I remember correctly the thread hadn't had posts in a while. Is the newer TNT release near the top of the forum stable?
I am mainly looking for a stable release that won't mess up my calls. Even WM5 had huge improvements and features over my basic phone I had, so having the 'newest' software isn't really needed (although I don't mind it if it's stable).
Anyways, I'm just wondering if I should stick with 1437 or upgrade to something else before I start diving into it and installing my own apps and setting the phone up. If I do stick with it (or upgrade and still have the issue), is there a way to get rid of that clocknot.exe notification besides turning auto-update for time off, which doesn't seem to have worked? I also installed the trial version of memmaid as that was recommended in the same thread, it didn't find any notification issues.
Thanks in advance.
1st thing to remember is that it's not a smartphone. it's a pocket pc. Smartphone apps won't work on this (most at least) and vice versa although there are a few.
Smartphone's don't have touch screens.
My Experience
Here's the thread containing the latest TNT ROM and a lot of info on it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367534
I'm using v1 of the last build and am having lockups on occation when the PDA is in standby. That said a lot of the posts indicate that sometimes you have to flash a rom several times or downgrade to a stock rom first before weird things go away. There was another post that suggested doing a soft reset followed by a hard reset after each rom is loaded to avoid rom instability problems. Also there was another post I read that said stability problems can be solved by using a specific utility (sorry name excapes me)that backs up the rom you just installed to your memory card and then reloading it from the memory card. None of this makes sense but I'm going to try these things if I can't get my lockup problem to go away with the latest build of TNT.
As for the notifications problem I fixed my through trial and error. Appearently there is a notifications queue or database that gets all screwed up. There are many tools out there (I used one called CheckNotifications) that let you fix the queue but in doing so you may break activesync and other automation. If found an app (FixASRunAt) that puts the neccessary entries back. I don't recall my exact procces for getting it working right but I do recall it took several passes at using both apps.
Good luck with your upgrade!
Welcome, I've had my wizard for two years flashed 5 or 6 roms, "its right" make good stable rom packed with useful software. I would suggest you read lots about any rom you install as if there are any problems its reported and usually fixed in rom thread.
If I might suggest Jaguar 4.0 rom, it is very stable and only a few programs leaving lots of space for you to test and add programs of your choice, you will want to try different programs. Some you stick with others will not be of use to you, the fun is in trying new things.
If you feel a little braver try the rom in my signature, I've had a few teething troubles but nothing major, anyway I can always change back.
Keep operator settings and instructions to hand, to make it easier when flashing, I also keep a list of installed apps so it is easier next time to remember what I use most often.
Finally welcome, there's now turning back now, it's addictive you know!
It most certainly is addictive.
Thanks for the tips thus far. I have one major question left - seeing as how there are so many ROMS out there, should I ever want to change to another one due to problems with the current one, or just to experience it, is there an easy way to keep program data and settings saved? There are certain third party programs that I would like to keep on the unit regardless of which ROM is running, so I'd like to be able to simply install them again and restore them to the state they were at with the previous ROM. I'm not sure how WM software works.
So far with TNT.1437 installed, I've just had a few problems, some of which may simply be the fact I'm new to WM and don't know what I am doing. It froze once or twice but that was it. It tends to run fine. The biggest issue I am wrestling with now is wifi connection. It always attempts to connect to previous wifi signals even when I am in a different location. If it would work as a laptop does (connect to a NEARBY wifi signal that you have provided a key for) then that would be great. But it keeps trying to connect to the campus network when I'm at my apartment, so I have to manually go in and figure out how to stop that and get it to connect to the apartment one here (out of like 10 options, which I only use one). Then I go to campus and I have the same issue and have to go in and make adjustments again. However, this is probably a WM issue and not a ROM problem.
As far as saving data or settings, I usually either back up the appropriate files to storage card or install to Storage card and just reinstall after hard reset. I don't think any back up utilities work if you change roms, but I'm sure some one will prove me wrong.
As for your second problem, I didn't even know it was one, so can't help you. Although thinking about it I've seen a program for assigning profiles to wifi connections or something along those lines, which is just what your looking for. Do a search. If I come across it will post a link for you.
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As far as saving data or settings, I usually either back up the appropriate files to storage card or install to Storage card and just reinstall after hard reset. I don't think any back up utilities work if you change roms, but I'm sure some one will prove me wrong.
As for your second problem, I didn't even know it was one, so can't help you. Although thinking about it I've seen a program for assigning profiles to wifi connections or something along those lines, which is just what your looking for. Do a search. If I come across it will post a link for you.
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Installing to a storage card seems like a good idea. When you install to a storage card, does it install the App there as well as data for the app? Do you even get a choice of where to do the install? Some files run as .exe on the desktop and then automatically install on the wizard. Others I have encountered have you copy a .cab file to the wizard and then just open it. Would you simply put the .cab file on the storage card and open from there? Is there a way to install via .exe to storage card?
I have a bunch of microSD cards around, so I'm waiting on a miniSD adapter to come in so I can actually use them with this phone. It will probably be easier to figure out once I have the adapter.
wow. ive had my wizard 5 months im still having problems understanding what i read about geting wm6 and touchflo. you experiance with do things allready?
Doesn't matter where you install from, when you get a storage card in, you are given a choice:- device or storage card.
Some don't like storage cards and after go on device memory, i.e. today plug ins. but its not written in stone, trial and error.
Thanks for all the help. It's a lot clearer than it was a few days ago now that I've played with installing some more.
My final question is this: I've learned how to install ROMS and search these forums for them (although I'm not sure on what each has to offer, as that will take some time). However, people mention when switching ROMs for whatever reason, the best thing to do is install an original ROM first, and then go on to whatever you want to install.
Where can I find the original ROMs for WM6? I've looked in the forums and did a search but didn't seem to come up with anything.
Would an original WM6 ROM work? Or would I need to flash back to a Cingular one with WM5 like it had when I first got it?
Anyways, just wondering about this. I imagine I just do it the same way I flashed the TNT ROM, but need to get a copy of the original ROM saved for future use.
Thanks.
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Thanks for all the help. It's a lot clearer than it was a few days ago now that I've played with installing some more.
My final question is this: I've learned how to install ROMS and search these forums for them (although I'm not sure on what each has to offer, as that will take some time). However, people mention when switching ROMs for whatever reason, the best thing to do is install an original ROM first, and then go on to whatever you want to install.
Where can I find the original ROMs for WM6? I've looked in the forums and did a search but didn't seem to come up with anything.
Would an original WM6 ROM work? Or would I need to flash back to a Cingular one with WM5 like it had when I first got it?
Anyways, just wondering about this. I imagine I just do it the same way I flashed the TNT ROM, but need to get a copy of the original ROM saved for future use.
Thanks.
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Although the wizard was tested my MS with wm6, it was never released as stock. For stability, always flash your carrier rom before a new rom (wm5... you can get it at htc)
Octavio's roms have been the most stable for me. 6.3 with wm6.1 works great. Also check out www.pointui.com for another type of touch interface. I think you would like it.
Oh... and don't become like us. I flash the rom now more then i use it. Dang things addictive.
Alright. When you say I can get it from HTC, are you referring to this URL?
HTC Download
I just want to make sure I am saving the correct version to revert back to in between ROMS. The site doesn't really provide much description about what it is.
Edit: I tried to install the ROM from the URL above, but it gave an error and said I need a newer update utility. Not sure why...Anyways...Can anyone provide a link to where I can find the original ROM I should flash to between other ROMs? If it makes a difference, I have Cingular (AT&T) - originally had WM5 now it has TNT.1437 (WM6) and I went through steps for hardSPL if that makes a difference (IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.01ip) as seen on the wiki. Phone is a G4 and works fine other than a few bugs / freezes up on ocassion, but I'd like to try other ROMs
EDIT: The ROM above did work, but I had to remove the HardSPL I had added earlier. That must've been the problem. After removing it, I installed stock ROM without any trouble - time to try a new ROM!
Is there a publicly available Fuze/Diamond/Raphael emulator that I can run on my pc? I've done some searches, but only find info on emulators that run on the fuze itself. I would like to test some ROMS I'm trying to cook up, but as an obsolute beginner, I would like to test things without installing them on the phone itself.
Thanks!
There's a generic Device Emulator available from microsoft, but you have to use the Device Emulator drivers, and as a result you can't test a number of things (like the navi pad, accelerometer, etc)
It's not realistic to emulate a device to the point where the drivers would function on it, it would be an extreme amount of work (for each device, too!)
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Is there a publicly available Fuze/Diamond/Raphael emulator that I can run on my pc? I've done some searches, but only find info on emulators that run on the fuze itself. I would like to test some ROMS I'm trying to cook up, but as an obsolute beginner, I would like to test things without installing them on the phone itself.
Thanks!
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The emulator from Microsoft does not allow ROMs to be flashed to it. There isn't an emulator that allows you top test your own ROMs.
dwizzy130
Thanks for the answers! Maybe I'll just have to pony up and get a second phone .
I first heard of such a beast when I was on the phone with a tech from FireThorn trying to work out a cert problem. He mentioned he wasn't using a phone on his end... just an emulator. I wonder if he was using the Microsoft product.
Just suck it up and flash your phone with your own roms. As long as you don't do anything super-stupid, like include a radio from the topaz or something like that, you won't brick the device. Just keep another rom handy that boots up fine if you need it in a pinch. Seriously, it's not that big of a deal, and the first time or two that you flash with your own rom, you'll get a nice rush, like the first time you unlocked the phone and flashed someone else's cooked rom.
Now, there are things you can do if you're cooking a lot and want to see if something you added (like a reg key) is 'sticking.' Look in the temp\dump folder of the kitchen, and examine the initflashfiles.dat to see if your start menu is ok. Look at the .hv files with ceregeditor to see if registry changes were compiled a-ok. Look at config.txt to see if your add2configs were compiled (and look for the corresponding cabs, etc, that you want to run during compilation). Look around for annoying shortcuts you're trying to remove, and see if they're still there. There's a lot you can do without flashing, too. I've seen Arrupenthal say that he flashes a non-booting rom like 3 times a week. It's annoying (hasn't happened to me in probably 100 cook/flash cycles, but I'm pretty conservative), but it won't kill your phone.