I have never seen or heard that a developer can manipulate a radio version to perform better.
We are all used to trying out other Radio versions for different reasons (Reception/GPS/3G/Battery Life...)
For Kaiser community,
we have all experienced better GPS reception with the WM6 radios (ex. 1.27.12.11) but for WM6.1 latests releases; you are bound to use 1.65s or the NEON.
1.65s and NEON are just OK with everything, but for people relying too much on GPS S/Ws (living abroad) it is a huge draw back.
For me, I like to have both snappy ROM (WM6.1) along with strong GPS reception.
I keep jumping back and forth from WM6 to 6.1 for these matters.
So, is it possible to use 1.27.12.11s GPS ability on NEON or 1.65s?
1.27.12.11 you can view more satellites faster hence a faster fix.
PLUS, you get to have a more stable signal.
I have never experienced such GPS reception (or even close) on any WM6.1 radio.
I hope someone out there can give it a shot.
U should contact AllTheWay, he is the "radio guru" here on Kaiser xda.
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U should contact AllTheWay, he is the "radio guru" here on Kaiser xda.
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I know
Hopefully, he can help with that..
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I know
Hopefully, he can help with that..
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Sure, he is always ready to help, altough I havent seen him for some time.
He's usually around
He'll show up
I just hope he can help with that or maybe knows where to start with that
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U should contact AllTheWay, he is the "radio guru" here on Kaiser xda.
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Your probably better with cmonex, jockw2001 or OliPro for this sort of stuff. Not saying ATW won't be able to help, but from what I've seen you'll need to disassemble the radio and patch it yourselves.
Ta
Dave
Any help from anyone is much appreciated
Hopefully someone will drop by
DaveShaw is correct.
This is a little beyond me. I would actually love to learn how to do this but as far as I know there is not training manual to follow on how to do this.
As far as being the "guru" of radios, I am not that. What I am good at is ripping radio's from ROMs and repackaging them to work for the Kaiser. Nothing really that difficult once you learn how to do it.
I would contact Jockyw2001 or Oilpro as DaveShaw said
Excellent point
You can tweak radio in many ways once your device is security unlocked. You can dump NV items and modify them, or you can use AT commands to do funny things with the RF configuration. And last but not least you can try to patch the AMSS code. Since there is a AMSS signature check in the qc secondary radio bootloader (qcsbl), you will have to patch oemsbl such that it hotpatches qcsbl just before it loads AMSS. Anyhow I wouldn't recommend you to tweak the code, but I would definitely recommend to study the first two options.
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Excellent point
You can tweak radio in many ways once your device is security unlocked. You can dump NV items and modify them, or you can use AT commands to do funny things with the RF configuration. And last but not least you can try to patch the AMSS code. Since there is a AMSS signature check in the qc secondary radio bootloader (qcsbl), you will have to patch oemsbl such that it hotpatches qcsbl just before it loads AMSS. Anyhow I wouldn't recommend you to tweak the code, but I would definitely recommend to study the first two options.
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Nice Jocky
thank you for the input. I will look into these first two ideas. I would love to be able to modify say the 1.64.08.21 and 1.58.16.27 radio's to work on the latest WM6.1 ROM's I will see what I can do.
EDIT:Found this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359015 & http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361923
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... as far as I know there is not training manual to follow on how to do this.
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I would love to see this in wiki
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As far as being the "guru" of radios, I am not that.
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Sure you are, isnt you the guy whit the ULTIMATE RADIO TREAD ??
Loving the participation
Would love to see the NEON with alot more powerful GPS
Definitely would be a step forward to achieving Kaiser satisfaction
Cheers to all of you
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I would love to see this in wiki
Sure you are, isnt you the guy whit the ULTIMATE RADIO TREAD ??
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Exactly what I was thinking.
PS: looks like u just need to say someones name, and the person will appear here to help u. Nice to know that.
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Nice Jocky
thank you for the input. I will look into these first two ideas. I would love to be able to modify say the 1.64.08.21 and 1.58.16.27 radio's to work on the latest WM6.1 ROM's I will see what I can do.
EDIT:Found this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359015 & http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361923
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That would be fantastic. I do miss that niki radio.
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EDIT:Found this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359015 & http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361923
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That first thread is helpful in that it points to the QPST tools which you need to dump/update NV items, access EFS, etc. Dumping radio rom is not interesting, useful is the how to dump NV items. My assumption in the 2nd thread was unfortunately wrong, due to missing hw it is not possible to activate GPS in production model Wings. However, it shows an interesting NV item which can be manipulated to enable additional features like additional frequency bands etc.
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That first thread is helpful in that it points to the QPST tools which you need to dump/update NV items, access EFS, etc. Dumping radio rom is not interesting, useful is the how to dump NV items. My assumption in the 2nd thread was unfortunately wrong, due to missing hw it is not possible to activate GPS in production model Wings. However, it shows an interesting NV item which can be manipulated to enable additional features like additional frequency bands etc.
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Really my goal / intention is to be able to manipulate all radio's to work with any ROM.
I don't know if my technological experience will be able to do that but I am going to try.
Like being able to use a WM6.0 radio with a WM6.1 ROM.
We will see though. Any helpful hints that you may have, please feel free to post them here or IM me.
Thanks,
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Really my goal / intention is to be able to manipulate all radio's to work with any ROM...
Like being able to use a WM6.0 radio with a WM6.1 ROM.
....
Thanks,
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this would definitely be remarkable if achieved. this way we will have best of both worlds
AllTheWay said:
Really my goal / intention is to be able to manipulate all radio's to work with any ROM.
I don't know if my technological experience will be able to do that but I am going to try.
Like being able to use a WM6.0 radio with a WM6.1 ROM.
We will see though. Any helpful hints that you may have, please feel free to post them here or IM me.
Thanks,
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Using any radio with any ROM, that would be super
A tool to patch the radio then flash
sounds like a dream that I hope come true
ATB ATW
Careful all of you. ATW's head is pretty big already.
J/K bud. Let me know if you need me to do anything or test anything.
P1Tater said:
Careful all of you. ATW's head is pretty big already.
J/K bud. Let me know if you need me to do anything or test anything.
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I wonder who else is going to visit this thread. Shogun, OliPro, ... looks like too much mods on the same place.
PS: I really hope tha this idea will be succesful. Unfortunately I didnt understand a word that jocky was saying so I am no help here.
Hope u big brains will figure it out.
Related
I have no words..
Every new ROM there are MORE bugs than the previous one!!!
So i wonder: If NOBODY CAN cook a REAL WORKIN' ROM.. WHY DON'T WE COME BACK TO WM5???
Am i wrong?
Bugs in wifi, bugs in mms, bugs on phone, bugs on Active Sync, bugs on SD I/O...
Videocall.. Videocal.. NO COMMENT on videocall..
A zealous user could replay me "Shut up and downgrade to WM5"..
Problem is that NOBODY, i repeat NOBODY is working on a "remake" of WM5..
We need, for example, a new WLM version, smart dial.. and so on!
I remember that in the past there were users horrified if an abstracted cooker forgot to put the videocall cab and nowadays we flash ROM that smash our data on SD...
I'm not polemic.. I want to open constructive dialog..
So the question is: Is indispensable to work ONLY on WM6?
I'm sure the makers like Lt.Cmdr.Ivan and Midget_1990 are working as I type and you read to rectify those problems and to implement Videocall...
Why not help them, and try cooking your own ROM? Maybe you could come up with a few fixes of your own while you're at it...
(Not that I can help much though...I'm having trouble figuring out what does what in a ROM image, let alone try implementing new functionality... )
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Why not help them, and try cooking your own ROM? Maybe you could come up with a few fixes of your own while you're at it...
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Who knows? Maybe changing randomly the hex value of an nbf i could solve some problem!
LOL
Who knows? Maybe changing randomly the hex value of an nbf i could solve some problem!
LOL
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Or you could use HTC64 Extended ROM Tool to decode the ROM, then edit the resulting image directly with, say, WinImage... Just a thought, though.
After you open up the image, you can swap CABs, and maybe extract them, and edit them directly. That way, you might get some results, who knows.
Shut up and downgrade to WM5.
shlomki said:
Shut up and downgrade to WM5.
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Gee shlomki, you're a zealous one!
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Gee shlomki, you're a zealous one!
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"Quod erat demonstrandum"
If you want a good WM5.
Use what I use (see my sig). Everything working like it should be.
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Problem is that NOBODY, i repeat NOBODY is working on a "remake" of WM5..
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actually i am
Good GOD Hermes' forum looks more promising...
BTW id say new one better
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actually i am
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DEO GRATIAS!!!!!!! IT'S THE FIRST GOOD NOTICE TODAY... you have a fan....ME!!!!! i have founded the " first AKU 3.XX CLUB FOR UNIVERSAL" i am the president.... hihihihiihi!!!!!
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actually i am
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Midget? ...THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
GOD BLESS YOU!
Midget_1990 said:
actually i am
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Please make one with Adobe reader 2.0 in-built hacked to vga mode(MUI). Remove plugins like print, form to speed up the loading time
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Please make one with Adobe reader 2.0 in-built hacked to vga mode(MUI). Remove plugins like print, form to speed up the loading time
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I AGREE! This is what i mean when i say "WM5 remake"!
like dj palmis music it's almost london/soho scene
Me still using Helmi Aku3.5 v1.3 since last Dec. Main reason, Video Call.
See my signature.
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alexatwocltd.com said:
like dj palmis music it's almost london/soho scene
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LOL Thank you very much, you are very kind.
I swear: He's not a relative of mine!
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Me still using Helmi Aku3.5 v1.3 since last Dec. Main reason, Video Call.
See my signature.
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Same here. Just using the vanilla version of the one which you're using. Using from day one
See my sig too
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actually i am
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The first good news I heard for months. THANKS.
These past few months I just read the forums and just browse through the WM6 section. Just like DJ, I got sick and tired of trying out WM6 ROMs with no good results, even the one's I tried cooking with the ROM cooker.
I also agree with DJ's point, with WM5, we know we have a good working ROM, we just have to make it better, rather than creating a WM6 ROM from scratch and end up with a more messed up ROM filled with unfixable bugs.
I've been using the T-Mobile NL ROM (WM5) for months now.
DJ Palmis said:
I have no words..
Every new ROM there are MORE bugs than the previous one!!!
So i wonder: If NOBODY CAN cook a REAL WORKIN' ROM.. WHY DON'T WE COME BACK TO WM5???
Am i wrong?
Bugs in wifi, bugs in mms, bugs on phone, bugs on Active Sync, bugs on SD I/O...
Videocall.. Videocal.. NO COMMENT on videocall..
A zealous user could replay me "Shut up and downgrade to WM5"..
Problem is that NOBODY, i repeat NOBODY is working on a "remake" of WM5..
We need, for example, a new WLM version, smart dial.. and so on!
I remember that in the past there were users horrified if an abstracted cooker forgot to put the videocall cab and nowadays we flash ROM that smash our data on SD...
I'm not polemic.. I want to open constructive dialog..
So the question is: Is indispensable to work ONLY on WM6?
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My friend,
I think you have choosen a wrong thread in the wrong forum!
This is the forum of imperfect rom where everybody is trying to make it perfect...as much as it could be....
I said it "imperfect" because if someone is looking for a stable rom then vendor (i.e O2, T-Mobile etc.) provided rom is the best suit for him, not it? OK, think, O2 released the WM6 for Uni then why we (including you) are here? We are here, because no vendors are interested to release it for our Uni.
You have the rom and rom kitchen as well, meaning that the whole bunch of .dll's, .exe's and all other related files with you. Why no helping this community for a perfection, build a bug-free beautiful rom for our Uni where everything should work as expected and as it should be?
//ranju
Hi, I´m new here and I need a little bit help...
I want to flash my HTC Wizard with a good working WM6 ROM, but I don´t know which one...
Which one is the newest and best working ROM, I need a suggestion.
VoIP is very important for me.
Please give me a hint...
You will have to do the same thing the rest of us did, test them out. Each chef is diffrent and will include diffrent things in thier rom to fit THIER needs. Sometimes you will find one that will fit yours, sometimes you wont. Its a hit of miss type of thing.
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Hi, I´m new here and I need a little bit help...
I want to flash my HTC Wizard with a good working WM6 ROM, but I don´t know which one...
Which one is the newest and best working ROM, I need a suggestion.
VoIP is very important for me.
Please give me a hint...
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Well...you asked for a hint so....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315178
There are instructions in his post for voip.
famewolf said:
Well...you asked for a hint so....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315178
There are instructions in his post for voip.
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I tried this ROM - with this ROM VoIP don´t work on my device...
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I tried this ROM - with this ROM VoIP don´t work on my device...
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As NTS said, then you need to just go out and start flashing roms and find what works for you.
FWIW: I know people that are using VoIP on my roms with no problems. I've never used it so I can't assist there, but there are threads about running and setting up VoiP on WM6 and all around here. Google can be your friend...
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Google can be your friend...
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Well said my friend.
I was wondering the same thing as lukesky333... and I've been downloading ROMS left and right so i can start testing them out. I was just wondering if there is a place on the site that lists what is and isnt included in the different ROMs, for comparisons sake?
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I was wondering the same thing as lukesky333... and I've been downloading ROMS left and right so i can start testing them out. I was just wondering if there is a place on the site that lists what is and isnt included in the different ROMs, for comparisons sake?
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The first post of each rom lists what is in them (or what has been removed usually). There have been many suggestions of someone maintaining a list like this (in a forum thread or on the wiki) but nobody has ever done it (and as a cook, I honestly don't care to maintain something like that myself. Sorry). To me, its not that hard to look at the first post of each rom and look and see whats in it, what its based off of, etc. Sure to a noob, this is a daunting chore with the terminology and stuff, but I honestly don't know how to make it easier.
If someone creates some type of comparison chart on the Wiki, I'd be willing to attempt to update my own rom info on it, but I have no interest in another project that I'd have to maintain...
And I'm sure if that is done, people will then complain about the way its formatted, or its not easy enough to read, or why is it in the wiki and not the forum (downside if its in the forum is only the original author can maintain it, or a mod), yada, yada, yada....
Just look how many roms have exploded onto this forum with all of the kitchens now available... I think this chart may be HUGE (and people will all start to see there isn't a lot of difference between many of these roms, as they are just personal mixings of existing roms with almost no changes other than included apps).
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I was wondering the same thing as lukesky333... and I've been downloading ROMS left and right so i can start testing them out. I was just wondering if there is a place on the site that lists what is and isnt included in the different ROMs, for comparisons sake?
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This is a comment from a noob - so take it with a pinch of salt. When I considered flashing a new ROM, I could see quite a few alternatives - XDAr2, NBD, SeeNoEvil, mattk_r's etc. Almost all come from two main build sources - 318 and 1413. (See the thread on difference between the builds.) After cycling through a few ROMs, and basically liking all of them, I picked one ROM. I am planning to stick with this ROM for 2 reasons:
1. I realized that once you have a decent ROM, you can always add on the other applications. Even if there is no cab version for an application, you can build one easily.
2. With a good registry editor, you can tweak the registry to your liking - e.g GPRS disconnect button, no SMS delivery notification, etc.
Almost all the available ROMs are basically a collection of apps (point 1 above) and registry tweaks (point 2 above). I settled on mattk_r's ROM of 318 with touchflo. The main reason was that it comes with a kitchen and gives quite a good choice of apps and registry settings that you can include.
So, there is no simple answer to the question asked. But the ROMs here give a good start.
BTW, there is a new ROM based on 1437 build. Now I am tempted!
kernelguy
This is the screnshots of the FM Radio, thanks for all the peeps who believe in me.
This will push me now to create a new Rom
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This is the screnshots of the FM Radio, thanks for all the peeps who believe in me.
This will push me now to create a new Rom
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WOW.....!!!!!!!!!!!! Great work...
damn, it works? you're a genius.
wrong chipset?????
I thought it was posted and confirmed that the Kaiser was missing the chip for the FM radio. This will make you more of a legend than you already are. Great ROMS + all sorts of tricks and presents = Dutty.
You are the KING!
can we get a cab please?
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damn, it works? you're a genius.
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WOW... Release a CAB and Release a ROM...
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This is the screnshots of the FM Radio, thanks for all the peeps who believe in me.
This will push me now to create a new Rom
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Have you been able to tune some radio station and actually listen to it?
Awesome Dutty... you never cease to amaze. Great job.
NICE! And I just released too...but everyone uses your CABs on my ROM anyway Out of curiosity did you find the Kaiser Radios have this capability built in? Or did you end up going with a Polaris one. In any case, great job.
Dutty ...is it the same cab you posted in an earlier thread? Give us the info on how to get it going. :
Fantastic work as usual!
What headphones are you using? So,, YOU really are THA MAN,huh!!!!
Very Cool!!
Maybe Dutty's V4 with FM Radio might be forthcoming?? No doubt it will be requested!
Was it headset dependant? Which did you use?
Great work as usual, Dutty! You are the master!
Dutty, you're the kinda guy that can fix anything with a pocket knife, a ball point pen and a dinner napkin aren't you?
Wow, man... wow...
He tells us this, and then he leaves!
Please tell us how you did this.
i for one will vote for your title sir...."xda's finest!"
Dutty, I Love You!!!
Dutty, congrats I bought my Kaiser two days ago and now you gave me a good reason to flash it from the first days of it's life.
Thanx
You are the best!
Ok guys thanks for all your kind works, I'm still using the same kaiser radio 1.27.12.11.
Good news I think it will finally work on kaiser
Bad news when I click scan for channels it scans but none found
I believe in two things
1. Its related to headset say polaris
2. Its related to Polaris radio, at the moment I have no accees to try and brick my phone with apolaris adio but when I get one I will flash and report.
So I'm 2/3 rds of the way to get this work.
i will not post a cab as yet as the other thread got closed for nonesense sakes. I will be releasing possible a rom with it built in first with the fix if possible.
Also Good news for my touch fans, In my next rom you can use touch keyboard with sms/ mms/email.
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Ok guys thanks for all your kind works, I'm still using the same kaiser radio 1.27.12.11.
Good news I think it will finally work on kaiser
Bad news when I click scan for channels it scans but none found
I believe in two things
1. Its related to headset say polaris
2. Its related to Polaris radio, at the moment I have no accees to try and brick my phone with apolaris adio but when I get one I will flash and report.
So I'm 2/3 rds of the way to get this work.
i will not post a cab as yet as the other thread got closed for nonesense sakes. I will be releasing possible a rom with it built in first with the fix if possible.
Also Good news for my touch fans, In my next rom you can use touch keyboard with sms/ mms/email.
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That great.
Ooh yeah, plz also add the cube
May i upgrade with Dutty's Official WM6.1 directly over original tilt rom 6.0?
It is better to flash with TYTN II rom before ?
Thanks
See the thread titled All Significant Kaiser Upgrading Links. Start Here! ? Read that!
DON'T FEED THE N00Bs. Teach them to read!!!
LOL, this is really starting to get good.
P1Tater said:
LOL, this is really starting to get good.
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I think we should all be posting a message like that at the end of each of our redundant assistance posts. It certainly gets the point across...
I agree. I think I really needed the smiles I get from this. man I am one dimented person.
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I agree. I think I really needed the smiles I get from this. man I am one dimented person.
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It certainly gets the point across, and it's fun reading for all!
As long as we don't get truly insulting and we always give them links, I think it should be fine.
We'll see if other members think we're being too harsh as we continue
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It certainly gets the point across, and it's fun reading for all!
As long as we don't get truly insulting and we always give them links, I think it should be fine.
We'll see if other members think we're being too harsh as we continue
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And it's nice to see someone else join the club with me and tater
We can start rotating the flamethrower to make it fun for the whole family...
jarek91 said:
And it's nice to see someone else join the club with me and tater
We can start rotating the flamethrower to make it fun for the whole family...
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ROFLMFAO. Man if you guys could see my smile. My favorite so far has been "HEY FLAMEBAIT".
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...man I am one demented person.
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Does this mean that your avatar is a real life picture of yourself? [I corrected the misspelling of demented]
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Does this mean that your avatar is a real life picture of yourself? [I corrected the misspelling of demented]
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pretty close to it I hear.
_Alex_ said:
See the thread titled All Significant Kaiser Upgrading Links. Start Here! ? Read that!
DON'T FEED THE N00Bs. Teach them to read!!!
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him how to fish and he eats for a lifetime...
-Jay
i got the same question, flash a duty 6.1 over 6.0 rom? i tried reading but can't find a question to it. is is YES or NO?
kinvid said:
i got the same question, flash a duty 6.1 over 6.0 rom? i tried reading but can't find a question to it. is is YES or NO?
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no you cant flash dutty's 6.1 over a 6.0 rom. you either need some special hardware or you need a phone that is shipped with a 6.1 rom, which does not exist yet
this specific reason is why almost nobody uses dutty's 6.1 rom at all. if you take a look in dutty's thread, you will see hundreds of post of ppl who wish that they are able to use dutty's 6.1 rom.....if you had read a little more, you would find that dutty's rom is probably one of the least popular roms around here
sorry for the wonderfulness of sarcasm, but I'm pretty new to this as I just got my Tilt a month ago and decided to customized my phone recently.... maybe I need to search more extensively through the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies" thread to find out whether I can flash Dutty's new 6.1 ROM directly over my original at&t 6.0 ROM. Beside its fun, is it necessary to perform a ROM update whenever an "improved" cooked ROM is officially release or can I just find a popular tweaked out ROM and stick to it for the rest of year?
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sorry for the wonderfulness of sarcasm, but I'm pretty new to this as I just got my Tilt a month ago and decided to customized my phone recently.... maybe I need to search more extensively through the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies" thread to find out whether I can flash Dutty's new 6.1 ROM directly over my original at&t 6.0 ROM. Beside its fun, is it necessary to perform a ROM update whenever an "improved" cooked ROM is officially release or can I just find a popular tweaked out ROM and stick to it for the rest of year?
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Point #1: You are not "newer" than I am. If I can do it so can you.
Point #2: It is not a maybe but a DEFINITE need for you to read more.
Point #3: Car dealers come out with updated models of cars each year. Do you NEED to buy the new model each year? Flash a ROM, if you like it keep it if not try another one. You will find that even when you find the ROM of your dreams a master chef like Dutty comes along and makes the ROM you loved feel like you are running a triathlon in chain mail.
Ron <stepping of the soap box>
mark43 said:
Point #1: You are not "newer" than I am. If I can do it so can you.
Point #2: It is not a maybe but a DEFINITE need for you to read more.
Point #3: Car dealers come out with updated models of cars each year. Do you NEED to buy the new model each year? Flash a ROM, if you like it keep it if not try another one. You will find that even when you find the ROM of your dreams a master chef like Dutty comes along and makes the ROM you loved feel like you are running a triathlon in chain mail.
Ron <stepping of the soap box>
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point #1: i am newer despite the fact i joined before you. I joined in December and only browse through the forum just enough to decide if this phone is worth buying over an Iphone. in terms of flashing, I am new. Yes i can do it if you can, so encouraging of you.
point #2: Glad i found this forum, but I did not read enough to know how exactly how I can flash. i've been flashing satellite boxes for years so yes I definitely need to read more if i didn't know something so simple about flashing a ROM in a phone. I guess installling Windows Vista over XP on a desktop is no different than trying to install Mobile Windows 6.1 over 6.0 or over 5.0 DUH...i feel stupid, thanks for pointing that out
point #3: Not a good analogy, cars require monetary investment and undergo drastic changes typically every 4 years while cook ROM only your own "personal peference" and some good knowledge and understanding on how to flash. That is what i'm trying to do, I already know the procedures but if i get bash left to right by seniors just by asking one simple question in a thread i did not start, i'll go get help elsewhere.
kinvid said:
sorry for the wonderfulness of sarcasm, but I'm pretty new to this as I just got my Tilt a month ago and decided to customized my phone recently.... maybe I need to search more extensively through the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies" thread to find out whether I can flash Dutty's new 6.1 ROM directly over my original at&t 6.0 ROM. Beside its fun, is it necessary to perform a ROM update whenever an "improved" cooked ROM is officially release or can I just find a popular tweaked out ROM and stick to it for the rest of year?
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Welcome to the wonderful world of sarcasm
Yes - you can flash Dutty's 6.1 rom (or any other 6.1) directly on a 6.0 rom.
No - you don't need to upgrade whenever a new rom comes out... only if you want to try new or better aspects of your rom, or if you become a flash addict like the rest of us.
Before you start make sure you have installed Hard SPL - if you can't get that flashed to your phone then don't go any further or you run the risk of bricking your phone.
Also, read the threads in the WIKI and all of THIS STICKY before you start. Even if some of them don't seem relevant to what you want to do they give you pointers to what can go wrong.
Lastly, when you flash, if you get problems such as no sound, camera not working, keyboard layout wrong etc do a search - most problems have been found before and can be easily resolved.
ach2 said:
Welcome to the wonderful world of sarcasm
Yes - you can flash Dutty's 6.1 rom (or any other 6.1) directly on a 6.0 rom.
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I have not posted much and this is the first warm, welcoming reply I ever got. I ask questions if and only if I can not find the answers to my own questions in these ridiculously amount of posts within pages of threads. Thanks for the kind reply.
I am new to flashing roms on the Kaiser as well, but I managed to read through a handful of postings to find out the steps and files necessary. All the resources are out there and they are easy to find. Just hope that you don't have an important incoming call before you install the 6.1 radio. That happened to me. Good luck and make sure you do your homework before you start.
mllittle said:
I am new to flashing roms on the Kaiser as well, but I managed to read through a handful of postings to find out the steps and files necessary. All the resources are out there and they are easy to find. Just hope that you don't have an important incoming call before you install the 6.1 radio. That happened to me. Good luck and make sure you do your homework before you start.
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LOL....incoming call...i waited til 3am to flash my phone. well it's all done and said. Just install hard spl and flash it with a 6.1 radio and Dutty's 6.1 ROM. Wow i like the cube function and phone is much faster. easier than I thought. flashing hour is up! back go sleep.
Hi
This is my first post around here but I have been lurking around for awhile. I'm currently waiting for my Kaiser to arrive (already in the mail) and reading everything I can about this wonderfull device.
Although I'm pretty inclined for technical stuff, I still have some doubts about certain things. I've read through the wiki and several posts here but I'm still not sure if I got everything right.
Radio: base module/program/loader/whatever that controls basic functions on a kaiser like call management, camera, connectivity, power management, etc. It seems that some radios work better for some people in specific areas than for others in different areas. Its not linear which radio works best (also rom dependant). Did I got this right?
Cooked Rom: basically a form of installing an OS and specific apps into rom memory. The advantage over having a stock rom with a bunch of installed apps is that the cooked rom already has those apps and they stay in case of a hard reset. On a stock rom with installed apps you would loose everything but the rom data. Another advantage of cooked roms is that the "chef" can optimize certain things in order to make things run faster and smoother. Is this right?
HardSpl: The bootloader that enables one to free the device in order to install cooked roms and other stuff. Usually the higher version the better but also depends on the cooked rom compatability. Hope I got this right.
Thx for any comment. Can't wait to have mine
Regards
Tony
what the hell are you doubting this was kinda a dumb thread. You basically have it right but all you did was make a statement, you really didn't ask much of a question you could have looked all that up.
Keep Reading take your time!
you need to security unlock your phone and Hard SPL it, before you do anything. do that or you will be stuck with a $600.00 paper weight. you are right about the radio and rom. You need to flash the rom that best meets what your needs are then flash a radio see how it performs, Battery , GPS lock, signal strength, call quality etc. Try one then another till you find the one that works best for you. My AT&T in Michigan running the same radio as you if your on AT&T in another part of the state may act differently. I may get fast GPS lock and strong clear signal and you on the same Rom and radio get a battery drain no GPS lock and you phone sounds like it's in a tunnel. So you experiment with different radios, read the post see what others say about Roms or radios when your ready to Jump in and enjoy. The main reason for me to flash my own rom and radio is I can configure this device the way I want it to be not how the OEM made it. Just remember before you do anything HARD SPL and security unlock your phone. then you will be safe or as safe as one can be, There is plenty of information in the WiKi on Hard SPL you sound like a Tech you should have no problem. Have fun and welcome.
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joel2009 said:
what the hell are you doubting this was kinda a dumb thread. You basically have it right but all you did was make a statement, you really didn't ask much of a question you could have looked all that up.
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Try not to be so harsh to someone that is asking for help, He states he is new, Give him a short window to get up to speed.
joel2009: Sorry man but I'm trying to get up to speed as I can. I had a big laugh after taking 3 hours to find out that "radio" is an interface rather than a FM radio feature.
I learn quick but never the less, this isn't as simple as 123. Try to remember how you felt when you first found out about this site. If you were to take up on helicopters and ask about fix vs collective pitch, I wouldn't bash you although it's a question that is made four thousand times per day by newbies. Gimme some slack
edbutler: thx for the tip. I've read about hardspl. I have 3.29 waiting right here. it will be the first thing I'll do. about removing the security code, are you refering to removing CID and security lock as refered in the Wiki (SuperCID and Security Unlock v0.2)?
For now I think I'll stay with the stock rom. I'll upgrade it to the lastest version (and play with the radio) and then I'll start from there. Here in Portugal, many people complain about the low time they get from the battery (stock roms and radios as provided by HTC give less than half a day sometimes) so probably the default radio that is shipped in this region isn't probably the best for the local carriers.
Thx again for the comment.
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joel2009: Sorry man but I'm trying to get up to speed as I can. I had a big laugh after taking 3 hours to find out that "radio" is an interface rather than a FM radio feature.
I learn quick but never the less, this isn't as simple as 123. Try to remember how you felt when you first found out about this site. If you were to take up on helicopters and ask about fix vs collective pitch, I wouldn't bash you although it's a question that is made four thousand times per day by newbies. Gimme some slack
edbutler: thx for the tip. I've read about hardspl. I have 3.29 waiting right here. it will be the first thing I'll do. about removing the security code, are you refering to removing CID and security lock as refered in the Wiki (SuperCID and Security Unlock v0.2)?
For now I think I'll stay with the stock rom. I'll upgrade it to the lastest version (and play with the radio) and then I'll start from there. Here in Portugal, many people complain about the low time they get from the battery (stock roms and radios as provided by HTC give less than half a day sometimes) so probably the default radio that is shipped in this region isn't probably the best for the local carriers.
Thx again for the comment.
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bump, its all in wiki....
btw I'am trying to create cab to copy dll to windows directory, seems the cab always fail... some how it cannot install,.. is there any parameter need to be added to the cab?
This was a surprisingly smart post. Most new people who ask questions and havent read any of the provided information...I will not flame this post like I had originally planned =)