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Sometimes I let my battery run to empty. Everytime that happens I can still hit the power button and my K-Jam will do a soft reset and then turn off shortly afterwards. I let my phone die yesterday when I was on the road. It won't turn on and it doesn't appear to be charging. I checked the battery with a multi-meter and its showing 2.5V on a 3.7V battery. Is this too low for the phone to work? Can anyone think of a reason why it would be completely non-responsive? I bought the K-JAM on ebay and its not really sold in the U.S. Does anyone know somewhere I can bring in my K-Jam to get parts or at least some advice. Thanks for your help.
-Ross
Lithium batteries behave differently from NiCads regarding charge discharge cycles.
Where NiCads *like* to be fully discharged before recharging, Lithium batteries *hate* it. They prefer to be topped up regular and often.
My guess is that you have a dead battery given the way that it has been abused (by being treated like a NiCad)
Really, I thought Li-ion was a deep cycle battery? Well should the phone show any signs of life if it is plugged in and has a dead battery? Is their a way to test the hardware without replacing the battery. If replacing the battery is neccessary. Do you know where I can find one? Thank you very much for all of your help.
-Ross
I had the same problem some weeks ago. If the battery go down to much and wizard switch off then you have big problems because this ppc charge only when OS is loaded!
So if you are not able to switch on to charge it you have to charge the battery outside the phone.
This problem happen to me when i was traveling and i forget my charger at home... I bought another USB cable i cut it to take out the red and black wires, then i take out the battery from the wizard and put red wire on the pin with label (+) and black wire to the pin (-), the pin label are written on the battery. I put attention to don't make shortcuts and that wires and pin was touching and let 15 minutes to charge (natually the USB was attached to my laptop). Then disconnected USB cable from laptop, put the battery on wizard and switched on it pressing the power button few seconds. It booted up and when OS was loaded i connected the normal USB cable to the phone to finish to charge it.
Now i charge the battery before that reach 0%!
Thank you so much, I will try that as soon as I get home tonight. If I understand you correctly it sounds like battery charging is software based and not hardware based, which is a major design flaw. If this is the case I'm going to sell my k-jam, because that is bs. Do you know if Jasjar is designed the same way? Thanks for all of your help.
-Ross
This works !!!!!!!!!!!!
I had the same problem. I thought my battery or my device was defect, but following this instructions I was able to charge my battery again !
THANKS A LOT
had the same problem some weeks ago.
battery was down so low, that after plugging in the wall charger my pda booted, just to switch off again after a few seconds.
so what i did was going into "serial boot mode" - that way imho the pad doesn't turn on wifi, bluetooth, sd card and things like that that drain battery too much. after some time the battery was loaded and i could reset the device and go on working with it.
regards ize|man
dalamario said:
I had the same problem some weeks ago. If the battery go down to much and wizard switch off then you have big problems because this ppc charge only when OS is loaded!
So if you are not able to switch on to charge it you have to charge the battery outside the phone.
This problem happen to me when i was traveling and i forget my charger at home... I bought another USB cable i cut it to take out the red and black wires, then i take out the battery from the wizard and put red wire on the pin with label (+) and black wire to the pin (-), the pin label are written on the battery. I put attention to don't make shortcuts and that wires and pin was touching and let 15 minutes to charge (natually the USB was attached to my laptop). Then disconnected USB cable from laptop, put the battery on wizard and switched on it pressing the power button few seconds. It booted up and when OS was loaded i connected the normal USB cable to the phone to finish to charge it.
Now i charge the battery before that reach 0%!
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You are a lifewsaver -- I woke up this morning to a dead battery and a device that wouldn't turn on and using your tip was able to revive it in a few minutes. I really can't imagine how someone could have designed a device that can't recharge a dead battery. Very dumb.
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You are a lifewsaver --
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naaah
Like someone said..... Italians do it better !
Alessio.
Thanks Dalamario, it worked for me.
A small amount of electrolyte goes a long way
I just found this thread as my O2 Wizard did the same two days ago.
Once I realised which was positive and negative I just applied a fine lick of saliva onto the positive and negative terminals of the battery and the phone's battery terminals.....
Lo and behold, it worked !!!!
Shame I logged a call with O2 earlier today and they are sending out a replacement!!!
Frustratingly I put a friends battery in mine, transferred everything off and emptied the phone's memory!!!! grrrrr, I should have thought about it first.
To add to that...the standard battery is some cheap and nasty Chinese battery.
Sadly, all the aftermarket ones are mostly made in China too!
BTW. Drinking an acidic fizzy drink probably helped the revival process by making my saliva that little more acidic.
Unbelievable.
I had the same problem last night. The phone just went dead while I was working. I could not get the thing to take a charge overnight with a wall USB charger.
I took a cheap USB printer cable. Cut off one side. Isolated the black and red wires. Attached them to the +(red) and -(blk) on the battery for only two minutes. Put the battery back in the phone and turned it on. When it booted up I quickly put it on the USB charger again. And now it is charging as usual.
I guess someone may need to start marketing a USB with blk/red pigtails for emergency charging.
Thank you soooo much!
Dropped my MDA Vario in my pint of beer the other night - had 48 hours of worry as it dried out and things began to work again. Then had the problems described before - not able to charge, red warning LED. Didn't want to put it in for servicing as it is unlocked (and smells of beer!) but found this solution which works perfectly (I used blu-tack to attach the terminals)!
Excellent!
hey all,
i have tried to downgrade my qtek s200 with the CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe software i found here.. after everything went quite well, when the phone restarted, the screen started to flash on and off.. and when i dont take the batteries out, the screen, the power led and the bluetooth led turns on and off repeatedly..
any suggestions on what i should do?
thanks..
i have exact the same proplem now
i have exact the same proplem now
Same Problem
Remove the battery - whait about 3 min. - plug ac power cable without your battery - put the battery - when the orange light on, turn on your device.
back to the life, but not solve the problem.
sorry my english, i´m from brazil. (don´t speak english)
sarpsuerdas said:
hey all,
i have tried to downgrade my qtek s200 with the CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe software i found here.. after everything went quite well, when the phone restarted, the screen started to flash on and off.. and when i dont take the batteries out, the screen, the power led and the bluetooth led turns on and off repeatedly..
any suggestions on what i should do?
thanks..
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Sounds to me that you tried to flash a Wizard-ROM on a Prophet.
This is simply impossible, so you probably bricked your device.
well its somewhat working i'm on a prophet bootloader ipl 2.09 spl 2.20 right now and i'm using a crossbow rom from the wizard section right now... (camera is not working).
what you could try is cut the charger wire open and attach the inner cable to the first battery pin (physical top) and the outer wire to the fifth pin. then go into bootloader, connect to computer and flash a prophet rom which has spl and ipl included.
dou you have a g3 or g4 device? on which spl/ipl are you right now...
I did the same thing with my s200.
I remove cable and battery, insert adapter cable and then battery until I get a steady amber light (usually takes 2-4 attempts).
When it boots up I quickly replace the adapter cable with the computer cable and Active Sync works.
I would like to reflash it but I can't since my battery is reporting 0% always, even when the battery is fully charged and it's not charging either. (And I can't get into the bootloader either.)
@crOssy: are the batteries different between models? and if so, would your proposed wiring actually work? have it been tested?
hellow to all . i resently installed wm 6.1 on my wizard and eventualy the battery ran out ,so i connected the charger and to my suprise it did not charge so i tryed with another charger and the same result. the thing is it was working perfictly with wm 5.0 and ever since wm 6.1 this happend.to do the install i used awizard to do the ulocking bouth sim and cid then i down graded the IPL and then flashed the PTG rom and it worked perfectly intil the battery situation.when i plug the charger the red light turns on but thats all it does , and it stays that way for days in a row . ive tryed two diffrent battries. can any one help or give any ideas on this situation, thanks in advance.
Most likely you have flashed a G3 IPL and SPL to a G4 device. If it is the case, then sorry that you've got a brick.
the device is a g3 and ipl spl is g3 the olny thing im not sure about is the rom,here is the link from where i got it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...d=1#post2601705 , can any body tell me if g3 or g4 rom...thanks
please post the full link, its not complete..it gives a 404 Error
There is no G4-only ROM, all custom ROMs now are G3 and G4 capable.
Try to press the reset hole and see if it goes to RUU or not. If it still doesn't power off even though the charge light became green, then there may be a hardware error.
the problem you are experiencing imay be the amp on your charger.
Only an HTC wall charger can revive a flat dead battery.
This charger should say that it is 1Amp (1000ma)
If you use a charger from a motorola/blackeberry/USB charger it will not help you in this case.
Check your amp.
If you do not have an official wall charger, then the only way to revive is to get a new battery
yes i agree with SVI, because i myself faced this probm, when i got a new batt..i had to charge it fully firstt :/ but i went on with the upgrades..and the batt died on me..i used a motorola v3 charger but didnt work..then i went to the shop owner to replace it..and he said that there is a special chargers for these HTC phones, i bought that and its working perfectly now
hey guys thanks for the replies and ive tryed all those solutions ,the wall charger from my htc trinity and the wall charger from the qtek wizard it self and neather do anything.
the only thing that dose work is putting the battery from my trinity and holding it with my hand in place. it turns on but it dosent stay on for long .
it turns off in the following maner the screen starts going white and it stays that way.
i tryed going to bootloader mode and i succeaded but then it turned to the white screen.
changing the subject the IPL is 1.01 and the SPL is 2.18 the rom is a 6.1 ptg rom here is the link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2601705&posted=1#post2601705 this link works i tested it. can anybody tell me if this rom is for g3 or g4 devices, the device with wm5 works fine . or can it be from the IPL and SPL not being the same. can any one tell me why this is happaning iv flashed so many devices and never had this problem . i my self have a qtek magicion, a htc trinity and a qtek prophet. well hope for some help thanks again.
Yes, first step is to ensure that you have a fully charged battery, a new battery is not fully charged so a desktop charger will be helpfull.
The IPL SPL difference is discussed by Dr Puttingham post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 step 16
"Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking."
Hopefully you can maintain bootload (press and hold camera button on start-up) with the new battery
Anouther hopefully usefull post is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
Best of luck
ademim said:
hellow to all . i resently installed wm 6.1 on my wizard and eventualy the battery ran out ,so i connected the charger and to my suprise it did not charge so i tryed with another charger and the same result. the thing is it was working perfictly with wm 5.0 and ever since wm 6.1 this happend.to do the install i used awizard to do the ulocking bouth sim and cid then i down graded the IPL and then flashed the PTG rom and it worked perfectly intil the battery situation.when i plug the charger the red light turns on but thats all it does , and it stays that way for days in a row . ive tryed two diffrent battries. can any one help or give any ideas on this situation, thanks in advance.
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Its sounds like a battery drain partial brick. Under normal situations, the phone will shut down before the battery is completely drained. This is so you don't end up with a completely dead battery. Sometimes, like when the phone is frozen or at the bootloader screen it will run itself completely dead. It sounds to me like you have a completely dead battery. To charge under normal conditions, your battery has to have enough juice to boot the phone one more time. See, when you plug your phone in, if its not on, it will turn on. During boot, there is no connection between charger and battery...the battery has to have enough juice to make it through boot at which point the phone enables the charger. The way I fixed my battery brick was by cutting the end off of a usb cable, striping the wires, and jumping a charge onto the battery.
Please refer to this blog for a description of the steps involved in this process:
http://www.asktheadmin.com/2007/06/htc-wizardcingular-8125-dead-battery_21.html
could be as stupid as the ongoing connection initiated by activesync:
check the schedule settings and change it to manually.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=samsung&message.id=62948
Hi All,
I've tried to upgrade the ROM of my QTEK S200.
It got completely stuck!!! I had to remove the battery. Now it stays black. Even a hard-reset does nothing. No bootloader, no white screen, nothing. It's like the device doesn't recognize the battery anymore. Same problem with another battery. When I connect the power supply, the light stays red for 5 seconds and then goes out again. No charging (orange) light.
Does this mean that the device was short-cutted (hardware problem) or can this be fixed with some manipulation?
Anybody an idea how I can fix the hardware (if broken) myself? Can't be to difficult if it just blew a fuse ;-)
Thanks
If the accu not charge, I think he is dead. You need a new one. For flashing new rom, you need a good acco over 50 %. Than you go to bootloader modus and flash a WM5 Rom WM5Rom.
coolb4all said:
Hi All,
I've tried to upgrade the ROM of my QTEK S200.
It got completely stuck!!! I had to remove the battery. Now it stays black. Even a hard-reset does nothing. No bootloader, no white screen, nothing. It's like the device doesn't recognize the battery anymore. Same problem with another battery. When I connect the power supply, the light stays red for 5 seconds and then goes out again. No charging (orange) light.
Does this mean that the device was short-cutted (hardware problem) or can this be fixed with some manipulation?
Anybody an idea how I can fix the hardware (if broken) myself? Can't be to difficult if it just blew a fuse ;-)
Thanks
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Yep, hes dead alrite, make a good paper weight sorry bro...
not the battery
of course I tried a new battery
same problem
Can you make a downgrade to WM5 ? Ist the battery charged now ?
DC Adapter 4,5 V
I had the same problem.
Remove the battery and connect the pin nr 1 (nearest to the cam) to + and the pin nr 5 to -. I think 3,7 to 5 V is ok. Then bootloader and connect to computer.
Don't blame me if anything goes bad ;-)
how to proceed?
I've tried to do as explained...
I've taken an old charger (5v) and connected the cables (black/white striped to 1 and black to 5). I'm not 100 percent sure about + and -, but normally black is always -, if I'm not mistakin'
What should happen? How should I proceed?
My device does nothing... No light. Power button does nothing, hard reset does nothing.
Does this procedure work with a QTEK S200?
Maybe the charger (old gsm) is too old or broken?
Maybe + is black...
Sooo many options ;-)
Worked on mine S200
Of course You must know if the adapter is working and +/-.
When I connected 1 to + and 5 to - I could operate the mobile as if the battery was mounted and working.
My problem began because the battery isn't charging in bootloader mode.
And I'm still stuck there... Because it's a G4 device flashed with G3 SPL... Anyone got a suggestion how to solve this?
JustBored said:
Of course You must know if the adapter is working and +/-.
When I connected 1 to + and 5 to - I could operate the mobile as if the battery was mounted and working.
My problem began because the battery isn't charging in bootloader mode.
And I'm still stuck there... Because it's a G4 device flashed with G3 SPL... Anyone got a suggestion how to solve this?
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I Did the same thing '''''HELP"""
What you should do
Keep the device on for 2 hours connect it to the electricity.
Install the original rom with the PDA connected like that to the PC, if it does not enter the Rom update continue trying by doing a hard reset with the stylus and pressing the left com button on the left side of the device, then retry the rom install, if it says unable to connect continue trying, using the procedure i explained before, thats what i did when the same stuff happen to me i was without my device working for a month, now i´m using WM6 with the Diamond Rom, so its possible, to do this you just have to keep trying.
my prophet is block and after try of hard reboot is dont turn on.. its not turn on on any way, no detect charger ether ( no red led ) battery was almost full when its go off..
plz help, can i try 1-5 pins solution?
srbwap said:
my prophet is block and after try of hard reboot is dont turn on.. its not turn on on any way, no detect charger ether ( no red led ) battery was almost full when its go off..
plz help, can i try 1-5 pins solution?
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My friend. A few people have tried the pin method and one or two have succeeded. IMHO i would not try it, for fear of frying your phone, yourself or starting a fire.
Take out the battery for a good couple of hours. Take out SIm card and SD card. Put battery back in and try to charge for at least 5 hours, even if the light does not show (might just be LED issue).
Then see if you can start in boot loader, u now how to yes? (keep camera button pressed, soft reset with stylus, then let go of camera button after few sconds). What happens?
pins to power
I've tried connecting the extreme small pins to the (big) cables of the charger but nothing happens over here. The screen stays black.
To All,
Any hints on how to connect these cables to the pins, without the fact that they're constantly coming off the pins and constantly touching other pins?
You try and tell me about your experience ;-)
revive prophet revive ;-)
I was just playing with my qtek when I noticed that after connecting and disconnecting it to the AC for 5 times or so (with red light going on and off for a second), it tries to startup, but drops dead after a fraction of a second. Damned ;-) No chance of going into bootloader.
Almost there ;-))
coolb4all said:
I was just playing with my qtek when I noticed that after connecting and disconnecting it to the AC for 5 times or so (with red light going on and off for a second), it tries to startup, but drops dead after a fraction of a second. Damned ;-) No chance of going into bootloader.
Almost there ;-))
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keep it plugged in for about 5 hours, dont play with it or turn it on lol, give a go unless u have done already and just havent said
Direct Connection to 220v doesn't work
The workaround of connecting the pins directly to the charger doesn't seem to work on a QTEK S200 G4.
Since mine is a G4, I wasn't lucky... I'm left with a cut charger cable.
I'll try to charge it for 5 hours but since no led is going on I don't think this will have any effect.
Listen keep it plug in to the electricity for 12 hours, then try to put it in bootloader mode by pressing the, com button on the left side of the device after you hard reset it, with the stylus after you manage to enter the bootloader mode, you only need to follow the steps described on several posts on the forum.
if nothing works connect the device and try to install the original rom, my device is a g3 so i´m not sure if the g4 works the same way.
So.. here goes my problem..
Got my Qtek 8310 three days ago, and the very same day I got it, decided to upgrade from WM5 to WM6. However, the battery charge meter gave me wrong info about the battery charge percentage, and the phone battery died just after I formatted the BINFS and re-setted the device in TeraTerm.
The device still powered on, after each USB cable re-insert, but died, after 5-10 seconds. After a couple of attempts, the phone didn't turn on at all.
Did some info search on the web and found out, that my battery fell to an critical voltage level. Li-Ion batteries require a certain voltage to even be able to accept a charge.
As I got an non-original battery (Sanyo ST26C) I suppose it is poorly designed and doesn't have good under-voltage protection (I have read about other HTC models (e.g. Wizard) having this problem as well), so the battery dropped below these limits and phone now identifies the battery faulty and doesn't let it charge. This is for consumer safety, because attempting to charge damaged Li-Ion cells can be dangerous, as Lithium is known to be able to catch fire/explode.
So the phone doesn't let to charge the battery in any way (1amp wall charger or USB cable).
Anyways, I tried to jump start the battery (charge with bare wires) to give it initial charge and... it worked. However, there goes my main problem: As soon as I insert the battery which has the initial charge, the phone starts immediately and boots to a bootloader (as there is no OS, formatted BINFS) and the the phone does not charge while in bootloader.
Then, I tried to turn off the phone: Hold down power off button for 5 seconds - phone turned off. But as soon, as I release the button, red light flashes once (as it does everytime, when you try to turn on the phone, it's normal) and then orange LED comes for a second, indicating a charge (as the battery is no longer considered faulty - phone lets it to charge), BUT then phone starts again to the bootloader and it somehow prevents further charge.
So: as soon as I release the power off button, after the phone has shutdown, it starts again, everytime, and soon the battery dies again.
My own thoughts of solving this:
* Get a fully charged battery from a friend, install the windows on the phone, and then charge my own battery (I know noone, who may have HTC Tornado, will be hard to get);
* Buy some standalone dock charger, which can charge batteries directly and charge the battery happily (haven't seen any around yet, so will be really pain in the arse, to get one);
* Charge battery with bare wires for an extended period of time, to give it enough juice to install windows (which I strongly doubt, as battery damage could occur);
Any other ideas? Ideas and comments, from people who know, or had similar experience is more than welcome. Looking forward for answers
Its funny. Reading you I've realized what people tell me about "I make a question and I answer it myself" So... You have the answers my friend. For options 1 and 2, use E-Bay. As a matter of fact, there is an aftermarket charger in ebay that charges your phone and a spare battery and it includes the spare battery when you buy the charger. I believe it runs for under $20.00. For option 3 use some wood cloth pins(those used to hang cloth to dry). I would say with at least 2hrs charge you should get a good 50% charge on your battery, enough to flash your phone.
Edit: Here is an Ebay Search. But, keep searching till you find the one that includes the extra battery. Chances are your battery is no good or won't last you very long.
Good Luck!
Get a new battery man, these li ion batteries, are no joke, especially the fact that they are made in China/Taiwan, I myself had used a tornado battery even till the days when the battery has bloated and cracked the back cover, when a single charge could not even last 4 hours.
Those days, were like having a timebomb in your pocket, ended up I got mysel a new tornado at a price cheaper than a replacement battery.
markanthonypr said:
Its funny. Reading you I've realized what people tell me about "I make a question and I answer it myself" So... You have the answers my friend.
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Well yes, I have some suggestions, but I am also expecting others to have some, too. And by sharing the knowledge, maybe I could prevent myself to spend more money on this issue
markanthonypr said:
For options 1 and 2, use E-Bay. As a matter of fact, there is an aftermarket charger in ebay that charges your phone and a spare battery and it includes the spare battery when you buy the charger. I believe it runs for under $20.00.
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The main problem with e-bay is... my country. at least 80% of the items, don't ship to my location.
markanthonypr said:
For option 3 use some wood cloth pins(those used to hang cloth to dry). I would say with at least 2hrs charge you should get a good 50% charge on your battery, enough to flash your phone.
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Thanks for the suggestion. The main reason why I am in serious doubt about this option, is that standard chargers usually have some sort of regulators and monitors the charge, prevents from overcharging, etc. But on the other side, USB charge output is only 100 mA, so it couldn't be that bad if you think about it
karhoe said:
Get a new battery man, these li ion batteries, are no joke, especially the fact that they are made in China/Taiwan, I myself had used a tornado battery even till the days when the battery has bloated and cracked the back cover, when a single charge could not even last 4 hours.
Those days, were like having a timebomb in your pocket, ended up I got mysel a new tornado at a price cheaper than a replacement battery.
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Well, the fact, that it is manufactured in China actually says nothing Many companies choose China to manufacture their products because of low costs. And the most of electronics is manufactured in China and other Asian countries.
Anyway, before getting myself an new battery, I would like to try resurrect this one If this won't last long for me - no problem, I will get an new one. But until I'm convinced enough, it's a waste of money, which I don't like doing
And one more thing.. maybe someone knows a way to keep the phone power off?
Because as I said earlier on, it's charging only when it's turned off, and not in the bootloader. And problem is that, as soon as I put the battery, it starts-up the bootloader.
Get a desktop charger perhaps?
Or if you are adventurous enough, mod the USB cable, and charge the battery directly, only if you know what you're doing, and only if it works
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Get a desktop charger perhaps?
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Well.. thanks for the answer, but we've already discussed this option and now I am asking whether or not, someone knows a way to turn off the phone and keep it turned off (prevent from self startup) while the phone has no OS (got formatted BINFS).
karhoe said:
Or if you are adventurous enough, mod the USB cable, and charge the battery directly, only if you know what you're doing, and only if it works
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I've already done that, and yes, it works. But I need someone to confirm, if it is safe enough to charge the battery for an hour or two.
Have anyone tried that?
I don't think that it's very safe. But I was having a similar problem, and I just left the phone connected to the power cable, and even though it seemed like it was not charging, it apparantly was.
Or you could just get a new battery. On expansys I saw a new one for ~$20.
nav1 said:
I was having a similar problem, and I just left the phone connected to the power cable, and even though it seemed like it was not charging, it apparantly was.
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Well..
With a modified USB cable (bare wires), which got power output of 100mA I have charged battery directly for approximately 3 minutes, and the phone turned on, and was operational for 4-5 minutes until the battery died again.
And before that, I've tried leaving it on an mains charger, which got power output of 1A (1000mA, 10 times USB). I left it for a hour or two, although no led was showing up to indicate a charge. The phone didn't event turn on after this 2 hour "charge".
And the reason for this is explained in my first post. Will try to leave it charge over a night, though, expecting for a miracle
nav1 said:
Or you could just get a new battery. On expansys I saw a new one for ~$20.
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But new batteries usually come empty, so it's no use to me. I have also explained why, on my previous posts.
So before buying an cradle charger, I would like to find out if these budget-friendly solutions will work:
1) Find out how to keep the phone powered down (because it's the only moment, when it truly charges);
2) Find out if it is safe enough to charge battery with bare wires for extended period of time (1-2 hours);
Just came up with another idea. Searched the forums and found a very similar problem to mine:
fritzgerald said:
For some odd reason my wizard likes to say the battery is full when its actually dead and that it's dead when it's really full. Well a few days ago I was reflashing to try and take care of the issue and it died during the middle of flashing. It would only goto the bootloader screen and would not charge. Well I decided I'd post a few pictures of my recovery technique utilizing my wife's phone. Cat5 cable striped at the end and twisted to each of the positive and negative battery terminals and the Blackberry's battery put it so I could use it to power the wizard.
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So.. I've got a Sony Ericsson w810i, would this technique work? The w810's battery is Li-Polymer, 900mAh 3.6V (although some sources say, that this exact battery is 3.7V..), compared to Li-Ion 1150mAh 3.7V Tornado's battery.
Voltage seems suitable..
Haven't got any answers to my previous posts, so I tried.
The trick worked, Sony ericsson's battery can feed HTC Tornado perfectly. However... got another problem..
Here's how I wired it up. The positive wire takes two contacts and the negative takes another two aswell. The ends of the wires are then connected to the sony ericsson's battery. Phone starts, and boots to a bootloader. Everything's seem to be perfect.
Then I plug in the USB cable into the computer, the other end to the phone. Phone recognizes the cable and puts label "USB" at the bottom of the screen.
However, there's something wrong with the connection.. TeraTerm fails to connect and Update ROM utility fails, too, with an "cannot connect" error..
After that, I have tried using the original battery, with no wires attached, just plugged it in (gave it an initial charge again) and the USB worked without any problems: TeraTerm can connect.
So the problem seems to be in wiring.
I have tried to connect the wires in different random ways (crazy, I know), but only one alternate way did worked. Although, phone did heat-up rapidly at the area, where it says "HTC Innovation" and phone's display showed "USB" even if no USB cable was connected.
So.. looking forward to some thoughts or any knowledge, of why is this happening, wiring schemes, or any other suggestions..
FINALLY! SUCCESS!! I've connected the wires from the sony ericsson's battery to touch only one pin on the phone, instead of two, as shown in the picture. The phone didn't turn on, as I've tried this before.
But then remembered that the same pins charge the original battery, so inserted the battery and VOILA! Phone turned on to the bootloader and the USB circuit wasn't blocked no more! Flashed the phone to WM6.5 now successfully and the original battery is charging, as I write this post )
So, if anyone got HTC smartphone dead, while flashing, let me know, will try to help you out, since I've walked through this hell myself
Thanks goes to karhoe, for an excellent guide for flashing, also dharvey4651 for an excellent guide on installing vista's USB drivers (got new PC, upgraded to vista) and last, but not least - the whole XDA-developers community for helping me out
1A Wall Charger Works!!
I've had the same problem discussed above. I was trying some of my own 6.5 ROMs, which by the way were getting stuck at the initial boot screen itself. Due to some unavoidable reasons and circumstances, the phone freely was left to itself at this exact state, untethered to any power source, for extended periods of time, during which it slept and refused to wake up again, all my pleadings going in vain. And when it did boot, it went into the tricolor screen conveniently and switched off in ten seconds. I turned to the net for help and found that any charger with rating above 1A would help in giving it the required juice. I didn't want to waste any of the 6 USB cables I have.
I got the original charger, which is an 1A charger, after 2-3 hours of searching my room (Hey, Don't be too hard on me! In the end, I got it, right? Actually, I use the PC for charging, and a smaller 550mA one sometimes-- both didn't work this time) and then, when I connected it showed the screen again. But this time, I found that it was capable of running it without the battery being present.
So, all I did was I kept the charger connected to it with the phone switched on in the tricolor mode and with the battery inside. After half an hour, I tethered it to the PC and flashed a proper ROM. And Voila!!! IT WORKED!! It was 2.45 in the morning!!
I guess the power from the 1A charger is enough for the phone to run and charge it too which is not the case in the 550mA one and the USB cable.
rajathvsm said:
I've had the same problem discussed above. I was trying some of my own 6.5 ROMs, which by the way were getting stuck at the initial boot screen itself. Due to some unavoidable reasons and circumstances, the phone freely was left to itself at this exact state, untethered to any power source, for extended periods of time, during which it slept and refused to wake up again, all my pleadings going in vain. And when it did boot, it went into the tricolor screen conveniently and switched off in ten seconds. I turned to the net for help and found that any charger with rating above 1A would help in giving it the required juice. I didn't want to waste any of the 6 USB cables I have.
I got the original charger, which is an 1A charger, after 2-3 hours of searching my room (Hey, Don't be too hard on me! In the end, I got it, right? Actually, I use the PC for charging, and a smaller 550mA one sometimes-- both didn't work this time) and then, when I connected it showed the screen again. But this time, I found that it was capable of running it without the battery being present.
So, all I did was I kept the charger connected to it with the phone switched on in the tricolor mode and with the battery inside. After half an hour, I tethered it to the PC and flashed a proper ROM. And Voila!!! IT WORKED!! It was 2.45 in the morning!!
I guess the power from the 1A charger is enough for the phone to run and charge it too which is not the case in the 550mA one and the USB cable.
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Glad to hear that it worked for you Unfortunately, it didn't for me (as I only have an after-market charget, not the OEM one, although it is 1A), so I had to search for alternative methods.