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WINCE 6.0

Can any one explain the difference between CE6 and crossbow? and emebeded
I saw a Evaluation kit (platform builder) is freely available
www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/eval/trial.mspx

Hi there....
ce6 is the fundament of crossbow (wm6) like ce5 in wm5 ....
embedded is winxp ... you can just make an winxp for devices they doesn't need much drivers.. like cashes ...

Also, CE5 (and CE6) are used for embedded OS for things like in-car navigation systems, where the end user never sees the OS, only the apps designed to run on it.

I am not sure if WM6 is built on CE6.. I think it still uses the 5th version kernel.

the windows mobile 6 being release as crossbow is actually built on WM 5.2 which is basically a shell for CE 5.
CE 6 will be released as Photon (prolly WM 7)

WM 6 on Himalaya Updates!

Is there any news about WM 6 on XDA II? I have been searching for it and stumble upon one link which says Developers are still working on it and also another link which says "The new WM 6 would acctually be known as WM 5 SP2" is this correct??
I have seen a comparison charts of WM5 - WM6 and found alot of features are available in WM6. I wish we had WM6 on Himalaya!
please post any updates about WM 6 on Himalaya here.
Kind Regards
Jay

NO, there are no news for WM6 on Himalaya

"The new WM 6 would acctually be known as WM 5 SP2"
and i believe they meant was that wm6 was based on windows CE5 sp2
and not windows CE6 which is still in the works as far as i know
so the windows mobile dont follow the same version nr's as the pure embedded windows core which of cause there is no reason it should

I'm looking forward to seeing it too

wm6 standard questions

hey guys (and girls where aplicable),
i got a question (a sorta dumb one). If a smartphone lik the iPAQ 514 Voice Messenger or the HTC Vox have windows mobile 6 standard does that mean they run regular windows mobile programs or smartphone versions? See the Cheeta/treo 750 has windows mobile standard ed. and is called a smartphone but it uses regular PPC programs, the other two mentioned before have the same wm6 but no touch screen. so i was wondering if that made a diference in the phones capabilities to use PPC Progs? I appreciate any answers as i am greatly puzzled and intregued buy this.

With WM6 they dispensed with the term "smartphone" in favour of WM 6 Standard. Too many non Windows Mobile phones were being called "smart phones" as well as PPC phones.
WM Standard has no support for touch screens and many PPC apps will not run on it.
WM Pro has touchscreens.

understanding versions...
so lemmie go over this... a ppc with a touch screen is said to run WM6 pro, a ppc without a touch screen is said to run wm6 standard the "smartphone" version. so what of the vox? it has all the capabilities of a full sized PPC without the touch screen so where would it and the ipaq 514 fit in? Because correct me if i'm wrong but dont they offer features like MS Office editing and production verus the others whose ability is limited to viewing or is it the WM6 platform that actually enables this?

You're right, its just a functionality of WM6. Any smartphone (i.e. non-Touch screen device) running WM6 has those same office capabilities and will be running WM6 Standard, not Professional.

As far as I know the two WM6 are one same core of the same OS but..
In the PPC version there is more advanced setup in the menus wich setup is locked in the Srtandard by default.
For example in the Standard there is no way to change the IP of the wi-fi manually.
And in the pocket pc there is some dll's, responsible for touchscreen operation .

yes but....
i do believe you might be correct on everything but the I.P setup for standard. i have an sda running wm6 and i can manually setup my wifi and change certain settings in the network config. Also the HP ipaq 514 that i've been researching also has the same features. see my big thing is i love he compact size of the smart phone but need the capabilities of the PPC. It wold be great if i could get the best of both. i know the O2 XDA stealth has that exact combo but they are hard to find and kinda pricey for thier age.

There are separate SDKs for Standard and Pro, so I think the differences run a little deeper.

well what to do?
well i guess my final questions then wuld be what kind of phone are:-
1/ O2's xda stealth
2/ HP's Ipaq 514

Where do you get WM6.5?

Hi, I was surprised today as I found this forum (never heard about WM6.5, especially for (old) HTC Wizard). I'm curious about how do you get WM6.5? I don't think M$ give WM6.5 ROM for free.
I think all WM6.5-Roms here are Beta-versions, right? If so... is there any restrictions? Or can I use WM6.5 on my device like if it's a "fullversion" (SMS, eMail, ActiveSync, Internet...)?
I don't want to start a debate about legal-rights, just as I said I'm curious about it.
cu Floh

Non of the wm 6.5 rom are official and there never will be an official. M$ official release of wm 6.5 will be in october. According to M$ the WM 6.5 is only a skin change of 6.1 and will be an lite version of windows mobile 7 for low end devices and WM 7 for high end. If you want WM 6.5 you can find one in the Windows 6 section under wizard but non official

Thank you.

[Q] Back to Windows Mobile 6.5 !

Hi Everybody !
you all know how strange it might be some requests form your boss but this is the most strange one !
My Boss has a system that work on WM 6.5 only and doesn't work on WM 7 and he requested that I should Provide him with 40 New WM 6.5 devices !
you know that they are not available currently So I figured out that I should buy new WM 7 Devices and Flash it Back to WM 6.5 !
I think theoretically this is possible but have anyone tried it ?!!!
I want to Try it on HTC 7 pro Device , Could anyone tell me wha the steps I need to do that ?
any other suggested Devices ? I only want it to be New ,with QWERTY keypad and I can install WM 6.5 on it !
Thank you all in Advance.

I don't think this will be simple, your best bet will be buying old stock of a WM 6.5 device. Many sellers on Ebay will still stock them I am sure.
Windows Phone 7 is a completely different product to WM 6.5, it is not just an upgrade. Think of it as a completely different product, because it really is. The OS and the hardware are very tightly integrated in mobile devices so you will probably have more trouble backporting a new WM7 phone to 6.5 that you will rewriting the system he needs, assuming it is his won work. Have you checked to see if the system runs on another OS such as blackberry or android?

Thank you for help.
The System works on on WM 6.5 !
if it is not possible to install WM 6.5 on a WM 7 device Do you think it can be done on an Android Device?

mka00 said:
Thank you for help.
The System works on on WM 6.5 !
if it is not possible to install WM 6.5 on a WM 7 device Do you think it can be done on an Android Device?
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everything is possible. if you can run ubuntu on android y not windows??

Theoretically it is possible.
but how to do that practically ? this is the problem !!!

HD2 is almost hardware similair to HD7. There is also experimentally the way to update HD2 to WP7 from HD7. But HD2 is still native WM6.5.3 device.

heineken78 said:
HD2 is almost hardware similair to HD7. There is also experimentally the way to update HD2 to WP7 from HD7. But HD2 is still native WM6.5.3 device.
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I want to put WM 6.5 on HD7 ! Do you think that is possible ?

Until cottula Didn´t release anything then you are gone. HD2 is "Native WM 6.5" Device So you can do on it upgrade! but you can´t downgrade to WM 6.1.. Same should be on HD7
Try to get HD2 in shop..

mka00 said:
I want to put WM 6.5 on HD7 ! Do you think that is possible ?
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Practically yes! At this moment not! May be never too.
As I told - HD2 and HD7 have basically same hardware, but it doesnt mean that firmware from HD2 will work on HD7 without changes.
WP7 is already ported from HD7 to HD2, of course with some limitations and bugs in functionality.
To buy native wp 6.5 device (like HD2) via ebay is I think the best solution for you case.

BlackRainX said:
but you canґt downgrade to WM 6.1....
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I can make 6.1 for HD2 as I did For native wm 6.5.3 samsung b7350 by downgrading it to wm 6.1.
Its because wm 6.X and less has almost same kernel so you can update from 5.0 to 6.5 and vise versa if you know how. Also you can use all programs from wm 2003 on wm 6.5...
WP7 is totally new OS - new kernel, and is not compatible with older apps..
Believe or dont- MS has spent many years by sitting at one place without serious improvements to their mobile products.. till Google came up with its Android for kids and made revolution. Temporary! MS will fight back at the end of 2011 with New WP update on new Nokia with multicore.
Nokia put their last hope to survive into WP7 as Microsoft. So do they win or fail together we will se later

heineken78 said:
I can make 6.1 for HD2 as I did For native wm 6.5.3 samsung b7350 by downgrading it to wm 6.1.
Its because wm 6.X and less has almost same kernel so you can update from 5.0 to 6.5 and vise versa if you know how. Also you can use all programs from wm 2003 on wm 6.5...
WP7 is totally new OS - new kernel, and is not compatible with older apps..
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Thank you for your explanation.