Can any one explain the difference between CE6 and crossbow? and emebeded
I saw a Evaluation kit (platform builder) is freely available
www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/eval/trial.mspx
Hi there....
ce6 is the fundament of crossbow (wm6) like ce5 in wm5 ....
embedded is winxp ... you can just make an winxp for devices they doesn't need much drivers.. like cashes ...
Also, CE5 (and CE6) are used for embedded OS for things like in-car navigation systems, where the end user never sees the OS, only the apps designed to run on it.
I am not sure if WM6 is built on CE6.. I think it still uses the 5th version kernel.
the windows mobile 6 being release as crossbow is actually built on WM 5.2 which is basically a shell for CE 5.
CE 6 will be released as Photon (prolly WM 7)
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I am thinking about purchasing a windows ce 5 device and was wondering if it possible to install the core player or TCPMP(from a cab) on it? If it not possible what other options do I have? Oh is it possible to upgrade a windows ce 5 core device to the newer windows ce 6? Also any way to skin these devices or something? Looking at the mpio v10.
i only messed a bit around with pure CE devices but some games i had on a sd card had a 50% work ratio
so i'd say that it's pretty likely that TCPMP would work
about rom upgrades then like with wm the rom have to be made for the device to work
so one cant just upgrade with any old CE rom
and wm6 and wm6.1 are still based on CE5 rather then CE6 which wm7 is supposed to be based on so upgrading could give more incompatiblity
Well it is a pmp/mp3 player that is running CE 5 but with a custom interface or something. But the devices codec support is a little on the weak side. It is called the MPIO V10, there is also a similar device called the iRiver w7. But you are saying it may not be possible to install Windows CE 6?
am'd saying that with all devices rom have to be custom made spc for the device
and i'm saying that wm6.1 still being based on ce5 so using ce6 could mean incompatability as no wm have as of yet been based on ce6
But I didn't mention anything about WM6 or 6.1? But thank you. Is there like a nice skin or something similar to TCPMP for CE?
Is there anyway to pull IE from WM6.1 standard (smartphone) to run on a WM6 or WM5 standard device? Similar to how ppl have pulled office 6.1 to run on wm5?
Thanks
So you are asking for the smartphone version for your professional device, correct?
No. I have a WM 6 standard device.
WM 6.1 standard is already out, and it has a newer version of IE mobile.
Is it possible to get the IE from WM 6.1 standard to run on WM 6 standard (or even WM 5 standard/smartphone).
We're all in standard/smartphone version right now.
I assume something similar can be done for the pro/touch screen devices as well, but I'm not asking about that.
Thanks
PS. I'm well aware that other browsers exist, such as opera. I'm specifically curious about getting the latest IE on older devices, similar to how we can run new mobile office apps on older devices.
Hi,
I have found this cab one : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H67GUDE0
source : http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ph...aster-zoom-options-cab-file-7.html#post170439
Hey guys,
I am a programmer at heart and have developed in many different languages(C,C++,Java,PHP,ASP...). I want to begin developing applications for the Touch Pro (WM 6.1) but I have no idea where to start. My biggest fear is downloading the WM 6.1 emulator messing around with it for weeks only to find out that's not what I should have been using. Can anyone give me some pointers as to where I should start? Are there any tutorials out there for programming for this phone?
I also noticed that the WM 6.1 emulator didn't support the 480x640 resolution that the HTC Touch Pro uses...
Thanks!
Airhead315 said:
Hey guys,
I am a programmer at heart and have developed in many different languages(C,C++,Java,PHP,ASP...). I want to begin developing applications for the Touch Pro (WM 6.1) but I have no idea where to start. My biggest fear is downloading the WM 6.1 emulator messing around with it for weeks only to find out that's not what I should have been using. Can anyone give me some pointers as to where I should start? Are there any tutorials out there for programming for this phone?
I also noticed that the WM 6.1 emulator didn't support the 480x640 resolution that the HTC Touch Pro uses...
Thanks!
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I use Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 + Windows Mobile 5.0 SDK + Windows Mobile 6.0 SDK to develop....and this book "Programming Microsoft Windows CE .NET, Third Edition". Its for c/c++, from basics to create drivers, services, etc
Dani
danielherrero said:
I use Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 + Windows Mobile 5.0 SDK + Windows Mobile 6.0 SDK to develop....and this book "Programming Microsoft Windows CE .NET, Third Edition". Its for c/c++, from basics to create drivers, services, etc
Dani
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Do you know of an emulator for the HTC Touch Pro? I downloaded a program that I know works, and was able to compile and run it on my phone but when I tried to run it with the emulator it was missing the HTCSensorSDK.dll file... something fairly new i presume. I tried default emulator and the Windows Mobile 6 Professional VGA emulator but I was wondering if there was one available for this phone yet.
I want to know the same thing
If/when you find an answer to this I would love to hear about it or see a post on it. Thanks.
There's no such thing as a software-only emulator for the Raphael's hardware, that would be incredibly complex to create for such a task
What the developers use is called a "Board Support Package" - it basically contains all the raphaels hardware, in a PCI card that gets installed in a slot in the computer.. that way all the drivers, etc can be loaded and everything can be tested as it would be on the phone itself.
There's pretty much not a chance in heck of you getting one of those (although if you do, send one my way, I would love to have one )
The emulators are useful for testing generic software that does not tie into any of the features that require raphael hardware. There should also be emulator images to support all resolutions (qvga square, qvga, vga, not sure about wvga/wqvga)
And, here's the link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...52-f89e-4354-84ce-5d19c204498a&displaylang=en
Looks like it does in fact come with wqvga and wvga emulators
Note that you can use an emulator kitchen to add SOME of the htc stuff to the ROM image, but none of the drivers that support the htc hardware will function.
Hi,
Is it possible to put Windows ce based software(like Becker navigation) on a Windows mobile based Smartphone??
There must be a kind of Emulator, doesn't??
I am using a Htc diamond with windows mobile 5.2
Would be great, if anyone could help me!!!
Thanks
most software would work out of the box
but something which require special hardware
which it sounds like something called "Becker navigation" would
is not likely to work
it's the same core and most wm software run just fine on CE
that of cause is if it's the arm version of CE
I just bought a Windows CE 6.0 device called the A81 MID that has the following specs
7 inch 800x480 lcd screen
Arm Cortex A8 600mhz
256mb ram
WinCE 6.0
I bought this thinking since i can use alot of wince apps on WM phones it would work the other way around too
Im trying to install Skyfire and Opera on the device because IE sucks on this device.
Every time I try to install a .cab ile I get the error "not a valid windows ce setup file"
Whats strange is that a lot of programs i have that is designed to run on WinCE won't open on 6.0 either
one example was FinalBurn CE .14, nothing happens when i open the .exe
Even the classic CAB installer to manage cabs from self destructing when installing fails to open and gives me the error "not a valid windows CE application"
Is this problem unique to this device or to WinCE 6.0?
The CAB files include some information saying on which platform and/or version of the OS it can be installed. IMO this is the only issue that prevents the application to be installed on your notebook, and this will also result in the error message you wrote. It's the same message that appears for instance when you try to install an application that requires WM 6 on a PPC 2003 device.
Since WM is based on Windows CE it's usually no problem running WM applications on Windows CE, unless you don't access any telephony APIs or any other similar stuff explicitly available only on the WM platforms.
So you can just go ahead and extract the files and registry settings from the CAB and install them manually, or re-create the CAB with different version requirements. If it doesn't work then I dare to say it's 100% the reason that some special WM APIs are used.
I managed to run some WM application on a Windows CE emulator. They are actually working fine, though the GUI doesn't look very good because they are optimized for Mobile phone screens and not adapted to the Windows CE "Desktop" OS.
I also have a Windows CE notebook and I'm planing on porting Nitrogen to it. If I have the time. Some day. Eventually. Yes.
Edit: problem of some WinCE applications not running on your machine might be that they are designed for WinCE 5. WinCE 6 has a re-designed kernel and some APIs are obsolete.... It's the same problem that will happen when we'll be switching from WM 6 to WM 7.
any ideas on how i can extract the registry and files? ive tried a couple of cab extractor and they all end up giving files with weird names and extensions such as skyfir34580.001 and other rubbish like that. Winrar gives me even worst filenames. is there any kind of tutorial you can point me too? i have no programing skills so porting would be way over my head.
have you had anyluck installing skyfire 1.5 or opera 10 on a wince device? also have you ever gotten finalburn to run on your wince devices?
search for MSCEInfEn
to create a new CAB look at this:
http://www.techparaiso.com/how-to-create-cab-installation-files-for-windows-phone-devices/
thx for the explication RAMMANN --
i plan to buy a windows ce '7" mini netbook' and i want to use all WM6/6 progs from PPC (if hardware supports it, of course)