Windows CE core question - General Questions and Answers

I am thinking about purchasing a windows ce 5 device and was wondering if it possible to install the core player or TCPMP(from a cab) on it? If it not possible what other options do I have? Oh is it possible to upgrade a windows ce 5 core device to the newer windows ce 6? Also any way to skin these devices or something? Looking at the mpio v10.

i only messed a bit around with pure CE devices but some games i had on a sd card had a 50% work ratio
so i'd say that it's pretty likely that TCPMP would work
about rom upgrades then like with wm the rom have to be made for the device to work
so one cant just upgrade with any old CE rom
and wm6 and wm6.1 are still based on CE5 rather then CE6 which wm7 is supposed to be based on so upgrading could give more incompatiblity

Well it is a pmp/mp3 player that is running CE 5 but with a custom interface or something. But the devices codec support is a little on the weak side. It is called the MPIO V10, there is also a similar device called the iRiver w7. But you are saying it may not be possible to install Windows CE 6?

am'd saying that with all devices rom have to be custom made spc for the device
and i'm saying that wm6.1 still being based on ce5 so using ce6 could mean incompatability as no wm have as of yet been based on ce6

But I didn't mention anything about WM6 or 6.1? But thank you. Is there like a nice skin or something similar to TCPMP for CE?

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WINCE 6.0

Can any one explain the difference between CE6 and crossbow? and emebeded
I saw a Evaluation kit (platform builder) is freely available
www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/eval/trial.mspx
Hi there....
ce6 is the fundament of crossbow (wm6) like ce5 in wm5 ....
embedded is winxp ... you can just make an winxp for devices they doesn't need much drivers.. like cashes ...
Also, CE5 (and CE6) are used for embedded OS for things like in-car navigation systems, where the end user never sees the OS, only the apps designed to run on it.
I am not sure if WM6 is built on CE6.. I think it still uses the 5th version kernel.
the windows mobile 6 being release as crossbow is actually built on WM 5.2 which is basically a shell for CE 5.
CE 6 will be released as Photon (prolly WM 7)

Windos ce Software on Windows Mobile??

Hi,
Is it possible to put Windows ce based software(like Becker navigation) on a Windows mobile based Smartphone??
There must be a kind of Emulator, doesn't??
I am using a Htc diamond with windows mobile 5.2
Would be great, if anyone could help me!!!
Thanks
most software would work out of the box
but something which require special hardware
which it sounds like something called "Becker navigation" would
is not likely to work
it's the same core and most wm software run just fine on CE
that of cause is if it's the arm version of CE

Where do you get WM6.5?

Hi, I was surprised today as I found this forum (never heard about WM6.5, especially for (old) HTC Wizard). I'm curious about how do you get WM6.5? I don't think M$ give WM6.5 ROM for free.
I think all WM6.5-Roms here are Beta-versions, right? If so... is there any restrictions? Or can I use WM6.5 on my device like if it's a "fullversion" (SMS, eMail, ActiveSync, Internet...)?
I don't want to start a debate about legal-rights, just as I said I'm curious about it.
cu Floh
Non of the wm 6.5 rom are official and there never will be an official. M$ official release of wm 6.5 will be in october. According to M$ the WM 6.5 is only a skin change of 6.1 and will be an lite version of windows mobile 7 for low end devices and WM 7 for high end. If you want WM 6.5 you can find one in the Windows 6 section under wizard but non official
Thank you.

How do I use Windows Mobile apps on a Windows CE 6.0 device?

I just bought a Windows CE 6.0 device called the A81 MID that has the following specs
7 inch 800x480 lcd screen
Arm Cortex A8 600mhz
256mb ram
WinCE 6.0
I bought this thinking since i can use alot of wince apps on WM phones it would work the other way around too
Im trying to install Skyfire and Opera on the device because IE sucks on this device.
Every time I try to install a .cab ile I get the error "not a valid windows ce setup file"
Whats strange is that a lot of programs i have that is designed to run on WinCE won't open on 6.0 either
one example was FinalBurn CE .14, nothing happens when i open the .exe
Even the classic CAB installer to manage cabs from self destructing when installing fails to open and gives me the error "not a valid windows CE application"
Is this problem unique to this device or to WinCE 6.0?
The CAB files include some information saying on which platform and/or version of the OS it can be installed. IMO this is the only issue that prevents the application to be installed on your notebook, and this will also result in the error message you wrote. It's the same message that appears for instance when you try to install an application that requires WM 6 on a PPC 2003 device.
Since WM is based on Windows CE it's usually no problem running WM applications on Windows CE, unless you don't access any telephony APIs or any other similar stuff explicitly available only on the WM platforms.
So you can just go ahead and extract the files and registry settings from the CAB and install them manually, or re-create the CAB with different version requirements. If it doesn't work then I dare to say it's 100% the reason that some special WM APIs are used.
I managed to run some WM application on a Windows CE emulator. They are actually working fine, though the GUI doesn't look very good because they are optimized for Mobile phone screens and not adapted to the Windows CE "Desktop" OS.
I also have a Windows CE notebook and I'm planing on porting Nitrogen to it. If I have the time. Some day. Eventually. Yes.
Edit: problem of some WinCE applications not running on your machine might be that they are designed for WinCE 5. WinCE 6 has a re-designed kernel and some APIs are obsolete.... It's the same problem that will happen when we'll be switching from WM 6 to WM 7.
any ideas on how i can extract the registry and files? ive tried a couple of cab extractor and they all end up giving files with weird names and extensions such as skyfir34580.001 and other rubbish like that. Winrar gives me even worst filenames. is there any kind of tutorial you can point me too? i have no programing skills so porting would be way over my head.
have you had anyluck installing skyfire 1.5 or opera 10 on a wince device? also have you ever gotten finalburn to run on your wince devices?
search for MSCEInfEn
to create a new CAB look at this:
http://www.techparaiso.com/how-to-create-cab-installation-files-for-windows-phone-devices/
thx for the explication RAMMANN --
i plan to buy a windows ce '7" mini netbook' and i want to use all WM6/6 progs from PPC (if hardware supports it, of course)

[Q] Back to Windows Mobile 6.5 !

Hi Everybody !
you all know how strange it might be some requests form your boss but this is the most strange one !
My Boss has a system that work on WM 6.5 only and doesn't work on WM 7 and he requested that I should Provide him with 40 New WM 6.5 devices !
you know that they are not available currently So I figured out that I should buy new WM 7 Devices and Flash it Back to WM 6.5 !
I think theoretically this is possible but have anyone tried it ?!!!
I want to Try it on HTC 7 pro Device , Could anyone tell me wha the steps I need to do that ?
any other suggested Devices ? I only want it to be New ,with QWERTY keypad and I can install WM 6.5 on it !
Thank you all in Advance.
I don't think this will be simple, your best bet will be buying old stock of a WM 6.5 device. Many sellers on Ebay will still stock them I am sure.
Windows Phone 7 is a completely different product to WM 6.5, it is not just an upgrade. Think of it as a completely different product, because it really is. The OS and the hardware are very tightly integrated in mobile devices so you will probably have more trouble backporting a new WM7 phone to 6.5 that you will rewriting the system he needs, assuming it is his won work. Have you checked to see if the system runs on another OS such as blackberry or android?
Thank you for help.
The System works on on WM 6.5 !
if it is not possible to install WM 6.5 on a WM 7 device Do you think it can be done on an Android Device?
mka00 said:
Thank you for help.
The System works on on WM 6.5 !
if it is not possible to install WM 6.5 on a WM 7 device Do you think it can be done on an Android Device?
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everything is possible. if you can run ubuntu on android y not windows??
Theoretically it is possible.
but how to do that practically ? this is the problem !!!
HD2 is almost hardware similair to HD7. There is also experimentally the way to update HD2 to WP7 from HD7. But HD2 is still native WM6.5.3 device.
heineken78 said:
HD2 is almost hardware similair to HD7. There is also experimentally the way to update HD2 to WP7 from HD7. But HD2 is still native WM6.5.3 device.
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I want to put WM 6.5 on HD7 ! Do you think that is possible ?
Until cottula Didn´t release anything then you are gone. HD2 is "Native WM 6.5" Device So you can do on it upgrade! but you can´t downgrade to WM 6.1.. Same should be on HD7
Try to get HD2 in shop..
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I want to put WM 6.5 on HD7 ! Do you think that is possible ?
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Practically yes! At this moment not! May be never too.
As I told - HD2 and HD7 have basically same hardware, but it doesnt mean that firmware from HD2 will work on HD7 without changes.
WP7 is already ported from HD7 to HD2, of course with some limitations and bugs in functionality.
To buy native wp 6.5 device (like HD2) via ebay is I think the best solution for you case.
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but you canґt downgrade to WM 6.1....
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I can make 6.1 for HD2 as I did For native wm 6.5.3 samsung b7350 by downgrading it to wm 6.1.
Its because wm 6.X and less has almost same kernel so you can update from 5.0 to 6.5 and vise versa if you know how. Also you can use all programs from wm 2003 on wm 6.5...
WP7 is totally new OS - new kernel, and is not compatible with older apps..
Believe or dont- MS has spent many years by sitting at one place without serious improvements to their mobile products.. till Google came up with its Android for kids and made revolution. Temporary! MS will fight back at the end of 2011 with New WP update on new Nokia with multicore.
Nokia put their last hope to survive into WP7 as Microsoft. So do they win or fail together we will se later
heineken78 said:
I can make 6.1 for HD2 as I did For native wm 6.5.3 samsung b7350 by downgrading it to wm 6.1.
Its because wm 6.X and less has almost same kernel so you can update from 5.0 to 6.5 and vise versa if you know how. Also you can use all programs from wm 2003 on wm 6.5...
WP7 is totally new OS - new kernel, and is not compatible with older apps..
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Thank you for your explanation.

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