hey guys (and girls where aplicable),
i got a question (a sorta dumb one). If a smartphone lik the iPAQ 514 Voice Messenger or the HTC Vox have windows mobile 6 standard does that mean they run regular windows mobile programs or smartphone versions? See the Cheeta/treo 750 has windows mobile standard ed. and is called a smartphone but it uses regular PPC programs, the other two mentioned before have the same wm6 but no touch screen. so i was wondering if that made a diference in the phones capabilities to use PPC Progs? I appreciate any answers as i am greatly puzzled and intregued buy this.
With WM6 they dispensed with the term "smartphone" in favour of WM 6 Standard. Too many non Windows Mobile phones were being called "smart phones" as well as PPC phones.
WM Standard has no support for touch screens and many PPC apps will not run on it.
WM Pro has touchscreens.
understanding versions...
so lemmie go over this... a ppc with a touch screen is said to run WM6 pro, a ppc without a touch screen is said to run wm6 standard the "smartphone" version. so what of the vox? it has all the capabilities of a full sized PPC without the touch screen so where would it and the ipaq 514 fit in? Because correct me if i'm wrong but dont they offer features like MS Office editing and production verus the others whose ability is limited to viewing or is it the WM6 platform that actually enables this?
You're right, its just a functionality of WM6. Any smartphone (i.e. non-Touch screen device) running WM6 has those same office capabilities and will be running WM6 Standard, not Professional.
As far as I know the two WM6 are one same core of the same OS but..
In the PPC version there is more advanced setup in the menus wich setup is locked in the Srtandard by default.
For example in the Standard there is no way to change the IP of the wi-fi manually.
And in the pocket pc there is some dll's, responsible for touchscreen operation .
yes but....
i do believe you might be correct on everything but the I.P setup for standard. i have an sda running wm6 and i can manually setup my wifi and change certain settings in the network config. Also the HP ipaq 514 that i've been researching also has the same features. see my big thing is i love he compact size of the smart phone but need the capabilities of the PPC. It wold be great if i could get the best of both. i know the O2 XDA stealth has that exact combo but they are hard to find and kinda pricey for thier age.
There are separate SDKs for Standard and Pro, so I think the differences run a little deeper.
well what to do?
well i guess my final questions then wuld be what kind of phone are:-
1/ O2's xda stealth
2/ HP's Ipaq 514
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Does'nt it have a stylus...i want one so I can run BB connect but bbconnect does not exist for smartphones just PPCs.
robdes said:
Does'nt it have a stylus...i want one so I can run BB connect but bbconnect does not exist for smartphones just PPCs.
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The 750, like all Treo's is a PDA phone, not a smartphone, even though they call them smartphones.
http://euro.palm.com/uk/en/products/treo750v/specs.html
I understand that...
There are 2 versions of WM5 a smartphone version and a pocket pc version (with touch screen)...They have the treo 750 listed in the smartphone section (here) but I thought it was a PPC version of WM5
That's what I was trying to say. The 750v like all Windows Mobile Treo's use WM5 PPC Phone Edition OS. Yes you are correct that it should not be in the smartphone section.
Gotcha....thanks
i have the 8125(mda) and i just got the SP5M(SDA), i have a whole bunch of programs for 8125(mda). Can i use the same programs on the sda????
for example: 1) spb pocket plus
2) microsoft voice command
3)omap clock
4)nesterj
and i would like to know, what is the story, what program do i look for? can i use programs for "windows mobile pocket pc" on "for smartphone". or will the sda blow up??
Unfortunately you can't. Your 8125 is based a Pocket PC based version of WM5, and the SP5M is based on the smartphone version of WM5. The two OS's are very different in how they operate, and for this reason the software is not interchangable.
The software for the SP5M must be made for the "Smartphone edition of WM5", smartphone being the key word.
I've been using Jwright's WM6 ROMs and they're terrific. I'd become accustomed to using true VGA in WM5, and while IE offers VGA, it's nothing compared to having the entire system run in 640x480 (96dpi) everywhere.
Has anyone enabled this? I did the registry change, but I don't have WM6 dll's put in for the 96 dpi (using the WM5 dlls would defeat the purpose of using WM6, right?).
If anyone is doing this, lets get some information going on it. If nobody is doing VGA, when do we think we can do this? Or how might I go about helping to make it a reality?
I used ozVGA with WM5 dlls, works fine.
The only purpose of 69-dpi dlls is icons, i suppose...
Is that a possibility? Can the WM5 dlls really be used as replacements here? Or is that like upgrading and then removing 1/2 of the new features?
Are there functional bits in these replaced dlls? Or are they truly icons only?
there is a package i made on the ftp that is allmost complete vga for wm6, it uses wm6 versions from qvga devices
Outstanding! Got a link or filename/path?
Here
Hope it works for you
Would be nice to skip the ozVGA necessity - I like to just have the dlls and set the registry myself... But at least now I've got it. Life is good.
Sweet
I tried these files and they are sweet, thanks
i just used d WM5 dll's & ozVGA. true VGA works as good as when i was on WM5.
nevertheless, i still downloaded Midget's cab file.
hi Midget. tnx 4 that. no need anymore 4 ozVGA w/ that cab file?
Nervous n00b Help?
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there is a package i made on the ftp that is allmost complete vga for wm6, it uses wm6 versions from qvga devices
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My mobile T-mobile AMEO 5 inch screen is wasted without VGA which I had on my Dell Axim x51v. I had previously used www.nyditot.comvirtual Virtual Display with great success in Windows mobile 5 but they are not returning my e-mail about Windows mobile 6 support hence the reason of this question.
What are the benefits of using your cab is there a lower overhead etc than the full blown softwares like MvRTrueVGA or Virtual Display? Is there any risks running VGA apps on PDA’s OS’s?
Any thoughts appreciated
Optical10
Real VGA by Tobias is better. You should try it. It comes with 96dpi and 128 dpi.
A chinese websit anounced a new MS smartphone,
actually running WM5, with touch panel.
http://www.m8cool.com/mobile/1/461/2958.html
and some videos are available on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ9glP2RSzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeC-nzpSEh0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsDqMZjjP8Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX44ALYCLHM
I wonder if this cell phone passwd MS logo test?
A chinese websit anounced a new MS smartphone,
actually running WM5, with touch panel.
http://www.m8cool.com/mobile/1/461/2958.html
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You know your phone's a ripoff when you see the dopod logo on the upper left hand side. That said, I know COOL makes winDOS smart devices. They also had this CFII/SD hybrid unit in the Wm2003 era...
Note that while it may say winDOS Mobile Smartphone with touchscreen, once you put a touchscreen into WMS it becomes WM PocketPC edition. No buts about it. <_<
Greetings All,
I am a newbie to any sort of forum and I wish to express my thanks in advance for your help.
I have been a WM (HTC Tilt WM 6.1) user for 4 years. Just recently I have been having issues with my phone and I need to purchase a new phone, but I totally confused on what to purchase.
My Tilt has the following programs installed, that I use on a daily basis:
Voice Command, Note2Self, SPB Wallet, SK Tools, Skype, Handy Shopper, in addition to the WM Office suite.
These are the programs that work well for me and I am comfortable with.
My question is this>
Can a widows 7 Phone do all the above or do I find a used WM 6.1 or 6.5 phone…will I like WM 6.5 better?
Or dare I say it…an Android?
Since your a windows mobile user and I'm guessing your most familiar with that os I suggest the touch pro 2 or the HD2. The touch pro 2 because it's a user friendly device, nice sized keyboard and purely reliable. The hd2 is also a nice pick it has a 4.3in screen an extremely fast processor and the touch is pretty sensitive/similar to the iPhone. You can go to htc.com to check the specs and see what you like best.
These are both 6.5 wm capable phones and the HD2 can flash wp7. I personally like winmo over android because of office suite but android is not bad either.
thanks for the info...what does "flash wp7" mean?
The HD2 has a very active dev community and one of the things they have accomplished is to port other operating systems to the device. So you have a choice now between keeping it on the stock WM6.5, or 'flashing' an alternative OS like WP7 or Android.
If you bought one yourself you would have the added bonus of being able to use the apps that you are familiar with.
Thanks for your thoughts.
What about the new HTC Inspire...any thoughts?