i have the 8125(mda) and i just got the SP5M(SDA), i have a whole bunch of programs for 8125(mda). Can i use the same programs on the sda????
for example: 1) spb pocket plus
2) microsoft voice command
3)omap clock
4)nesterj
and i would like to know, what is the story, what program do i look for? can i use programs for "windows mobile pocket pc" on "for smartphone". or will the sda blow up??
Unfortunately you can't. Your 8125 is based a Pocket PC based version of WM5, and the SP5M is based on the smartphone version of WM5. The two OS's are very different in how they operate, and for this reason the software is not interchangable.
The software for the SP5M must be made for the "Smartphone edition of WM5", smartphone being the key word.
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Does'nt it have a stylus...i want one so I can run BB connect but bbconnect does not exist for smartphones just PPCs.
robdes said:
Does'nt it have a stylus...i want one so I can run BB connect but bbconnect does not exist for smartphones just PPCs.
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The 750, like all Treo's is a PDA phone, not a smartphone, even though they call them smartphones.
http://euro.palm.com/uk/en/products/treo750v/specs.html
I understand that...
There are 2 versions of WM5 a smartphone version and a pocket pc version (with touch screen)...They have the treo 750 listed in the smartphone section (here) but I thought it was a PPC version of WM5
That's what I was trying to say. The 750v like all Windows Mobile Treo's use WM5 PPC Phone Edition OS. Yes you are correct that it should not be in the smartphone section.
Gotcha....thanks
hey guys (and girls where aplicable),
i got a question (a sorta dumb one). If a smartphone lik the iPAQ 514 Voice Messenger or the HTC Vox have windows mobile 6 standard does that mean they run regular windows mobile programs or smartphone versions? See the Cheeta/treo 750 has windows mobile standard ed. and is called a smartphone but it uses regular PPC programs, the other two mentioned before have the same wm6 but no touch screen. so i was wondering if that made a diference in the phones capabilities to use PPC Progs? I appreciate any answers as i am greatly puzzled and intregued buy this.
With WM6 they dispensed with the term "smartphone" in favour of WM 6 Standard. Too many non Windows Mobile phones were being called "smart phones" as well as PPC phones.
WM Standard has no support for touch screens and many PPC apps will not run on it.
WM Pro has touchscreens.
understanding versions...
so lemmie go over this... a ppc with a touch screen is said to run WM6 pro, a ppc without a touch screen is said to run wm6 standard the "smartphone" version. so what of the vox? it has all the capabilities of a full sized PPC without the touch screen so where would it and the ipaq 514 fit in? Because correct me if i'm wrong but dont they offer features like MS Office editing and production verus the others whose ability is limited to viewing or is it the WM6 platform that actually enables this?
You're right, its just a functionality of WM6. Any smartphone (i.e. non-Touch screen device) running WM6 has those same office capabilities and will be running WM6 Standard, not Professional.
As far as I know the two WM6 are one same core of the same OS but..
In the PPC version there is more advanced setup in the menus wich setup is locked in the Srtandard by default.
For example in the Standard there is no way to change the IP of the wi-fi manually.
And in the pocket pc there is some dll's, responsible for touchscreen operation .
yes but....
i do believe you might be correct on everything but the I.P setup for standard. i have an sda running wm6 and i can manually setup my wifi and change certain settings in the network config. Also the HP ipaq 514 that i've been researching also has the same features. see my big thing is i love he compact size of the smart phone but need the capabilities of the PPC. It wold be great if i could get the best of both. i know the O2 XDA stealth has that exact combo but they are hard to find and kinda pricey for thier age.
There are separate SDKs for Standard and Pro, so I think the differences run a little deeper.
well what to do?
well i guess my final questions then wuld be what kind of phone are:-
1/ O2's xda stealth
2/ HP's Ipaq 514
Hey guys,
I am a programmer at heart and have developed in many different languages(C,C++,Java,PHP,ASP...). I want to begin developing applications for the Touch Pro (WM 6.1) but I have no idea where to start. My biggest fear is downloading the WM 6.1 emulator messing around with it for weeks only to find out that's not what I should have been using. Can anyone give me some pointers as to where I should start? Are there any tutorials out there for programming for this phone?
I also noticed that the WM 6.1 emulator didn't support the 480x640 resolution that the HTC Touch Pro uses...
Thanks!
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Hey guys,
I am a programmer at heart and have developed in many different languages(C,C++,Java,PHP,ASP...). I want to begin developing applications for the Touch Pro (WM 6.1) but I have no idea where to start. My biggest fear is downloading the WM 6.1 emulator messing around with it for weeks only to find out that's not what I should have been using. Can anyone give me some pointers as to where I should start? Are there any tutorials out there for programming for this phone?
I also noticed that the WM 6.1 emulator didn't support the 480x640 resolution that the HTC Touch Pro uses...
Thanks!
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I use Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 + Windows Mobile 5.0 SDK + Windows Mobile 6.0 SDK to develop....and this book "Programming Microsoft Windows CE .NET, Third Edition". Its for c/c++, from basics to create drivers, services, etc
Dani
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I use Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 + Windows Mobile 5.0 SDK + Windows Mobile 6.0 SDK to develop....and this book "Programming Microsoft Windows CE .NET, Third Edition". Its for c/c++, from basics to create drivers, services, etc
Dani
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Do you know of an emulator for the HTC Touch Pro? I downloaded a program that I know works, and was able to compile and run it on my phone but when I tried to run it with the emulator it was missing the HTCSensorSDK.dll file... something fairly new i presume. I tried default emulator and the Windows Mobile 6 Professional VGA emulator but I was wondering if there was one available for this phone yet.
I want to know the same thing
If/when you find an answer to this I would love to hear about it or see a post on it. Thanks.
There's no such thing as a software-only emulator for the Raphael's hardware, that would be incredibly complex to create for such a task
What the developers use is called a "Board Support Package" - it basically contains all the raphaels hardware, in a PCI card that gets installed in a slot in the computer.. that way all the drivers, etc can be loaded and everything can be tested as it would be on the phone itself.
There's pretty much not a chance in heck of you getting one of those (although if you do, send one my way, I would love to have one )
The emulators are useful for testing generic software that does not tie into any of the features that require raphael hardware. There should also be emulator images to support all resolutions (qvga square, qvga, vga, not sure about wvga/wqvga)
And, here's the link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...52-f89e-4354-84ce-5d19c204498a&displaylang=en
Looks like it does in fact come with wqvga and wvga emulators
Note that you can use an emulator kitchen to add SOME of the htc stuff to the ROM image, but none of the drivers that support the htc hardware will function.
Hi
I have an HTC Touch HD with Swedish Windows Mobile 6.1. I very much want to use the PIM program called Pocket Informant. But when I try to install it, I am told that my platform is not supported
Is there any way that I can still go ahead and install it? Or is there a great chance that it will not work, even if I should not be able to install it?
I am quite annoyed that I cannot easily replace my Swedish OS license and installation with an English one, but that's another discussion....
I guess my question merely is; Is there a tweak that can be carried out, to run English Windows Mobile programs on non-English installations? I don't know Windows Mobile that well, so I have no idea whether this would actually be possible.
On Windows based PC's, this works. So I thought it might be the same on Windows Mobile devices?
Greetings All,
I am a newbie to any sort of forum and I wish to express my thanks in advance for your help.
I have been a WM (HTC Tilt WM 6.1) user for 4 years. Just recently I have been having issues with my phone and I need to purchase a new phone, but I totally confused on what to purchase.
My Tilt has the following programs installed, that I use on a daily basis:
Voice Command, Note2Self, SPB Wallet, SK Tools, Skype, Handy Shopper, in addition to the WM Office suite.
These are the programs that work well for me and I am comfortable with.
My question is this>
Can a widows 7 Phone do all the above or do I find a used WM 6.1 or 6.5 phone…will I like WM 6.5 better?
Or dare I say it…an Android?
Since your a windows mobile user and I'm guessing your most familiar with that os I suggest the touch pro 2 or the HD2. The touch pro 2 because it's a user friendly device, nice sized keyboard and purely reliable. The hd2 is also a nice pick it has a 4.3in screen an extremely fast processor and the touch is pretty sensitive/similar to the iPhone. You can go to htc.com to check the specs and see what you like best.
These are both 6.5 wm capable phones and the HD2 can flash wp7. I personally like winmo over android because of office suite but android is not bad either.
thanks for the info...what does "flash wp7" mean?
The HD2 has a very active dev community and one of the things they have accomplished is to port other operating systems to the device. So you have a choice now between keeping it on the stock WM6.5, or 'flashing' an alternative OS like WP7 or Android.
If you bought one yourself you would have the added bonus of being able to use the apps that you are familiar with.
Thanks for your thoughts.
What about the new HTC Inspire...any thoughts?