Battery goes Unknown - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

Hi, i'm searching forum for few days, and cannot find answer for my problem. On my Uni is Ranju 7.6, and all was ok.
Few days ago, when i was searching in TomTom, my Uni said, I had to replace battery or stack in recharge cable. I found, it happens when i'm doing somethimg memory intensive. For example playing Revival, using TomTom, or yesterday when browsing xda-dev. So battery appears "unknown battery" and all pda goes off.
I know, uni is checking battery every minute, but sometimes it cannot find battery... doesn't mattery if battery is full or not full.
Can it be hardware prob? I remamber, few days ago i fell off my bicycle, my uni was in case, in backsack, so nothing could happend to him, but maybe the shock?

Uni is too sensitive to shock, deeply sorry to say that ur Uni is having a series hardware problem. I had dropped my ex-uni from about 1 meter distance and even it has any apparent signs of the drop, even any minor scratch, but it lost its external speakers' sound and i had to change its main board.

oh But I saw my friend, who fell uni many times on floor, and nothing happend to it

aqwarty said:
oh But I saw my friend, who fell uni many times on floor, and nothing happend to it
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it is somesort of luck, and the fact that the shock is transmited via the Uni case to the main board, and if it reached a weak point it will affect the IC related to that point. If the Uni is lucky, the force of shock may go to the case itself with microsocopic or visible cracks in nonfunctioal part.

Also, try another battery, may be the shock went to it, and assure that the second pin from upside is well conducted. In addition, try to clean the battery conducting plates and the uni conducting pins with alcohol.

thanks for advises, i'll try.

aqwarty said:
Hi, i'm searching forum for few days, and cannot find answer for my problem. On my Uni is Ranju 7.6, and all was ok.
Few days ago, when i was searching in TomTom, my Uni said, I had to replace battery or stack in recharge cable. I found, it happens when i'm doing somethimg memory intensive. For example playing Revival, using TomTom, or yesterday when browsing xda-dev. So battery appears "unknown battery" and all pda goes off.
I know, uni is checking battery every minute, but sometimes it cannot find battery... doesn't mattery if battery is full or not full.
Can it be hardware prob? I remamber, few days ago i fell off my bicycle, my uni was in case, in backsack, so nothing could happend to him, but maybe the shock?
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Also using Ranju's but 7.7. I never had this problem before with any rom. Just I bought a new clone battery, since then I always have this problem. it seems the infolithium is not working very well in this clone battery. I got used to it. Or just buy a new orginal battery. I don't care much about it I can live with it

The problem is the battery.
WM6 and 6.1 Roms and also later radio versions require more power for all of the various functions than the plain old wm5 roms.
Make sure that the battery is an original ( not a cheap Ebay clone)
It is also worth buying one that is slightly higher than the standard battery.
The problem occurs because the battery is unable to supply enough power in times of high demand.
I have had the same problem with old batteries too.
Also, it is advisable to flash a new rom with a full 100% battery charge.
Cheers,
Beasty

last year, i had an o2 exec, it fell off my pocket when i was riding my motorcycle. imagine the impact caused on my exec as it fell to the ground, rolling for a number of times, bumping almost all sides. luckily i placed it in the leather holster, only the corners are exposed thus having few scratches only.
after that incident, i notice that my screen had a stuck or shall i call it dead pixel. aside from this, all else are working. so i guess our universal is rather tough than what we expect it to be.

Hey mr,we do it in old fashion way
1. cover your battery with blanket
2. put it in the freezer
3. in over a night,you can dry it in the morning than,u charge it and you have a new batteries,its more cheaper than buying a new one

Keane_hoffman17 said:
Hey mr,we do it in old fashion way
1. cover your battery with blanket
2. put it in the freezer
3. in over a night,you can dry it in the morning than,u charge it and you have a new batteries,its more cheaper than buying a new one
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hey r u serious or just a jock?

some lucky - some not! i'm a part of un lucky man!
- trying freezer method
- trying empty battery method (batery indicator zero and device off it self, then resset till it won't on. Then charge it > 8 hours)
Now i'm buying the new one.

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XDA II ALWAYS think it's charging

My XDA II suddenly decided to think it's always charging, EVEN when it's not in the cardle. I don't know why. The upper right corner is always yellow (not flashing). The backlight brightness can only be controlled by the 'On Power' slider. Simply, it thinks it is in the cradle. No matter how I try, be it soft or hard reset, it's the same. In this siutaution, the battery drains VERY VERY QUICKLY.
In fact, this is the 3rd time I experience this. For the previous 2 occasions, I send it back to service centre and they change a new unit for me under warranty. But it's just 5 months and it has already happened for 3 times! It's hassle and I am thinking what I can do after warranty period.
Am I being alone and anyone else has experienced the same situation? Any means I can solve it by myself? Thanks a lot.
I have same help me now
I think this is from using the cradle, for some reason it distorts the pins in the phone and causes a short between pins. I found that using a usb cable makes this less likely to happen.
hm
this is happening to me too
i had to buy a new xda 2 .... i still have the old one , if anyone knows how to fix this i would apreciate it very much. ...
it is the same story, the led is always on, it always says charning even when is not... and the battery only stays charged for 3-4 hours.
I´ve the same problem since yesterday with my T-Mobile MDA², it´s Rom Version: 1.72.01GER (6 months in use without problems), Rom Date 03/16/04, Radio 1.17.00, Protocol 1337.28, ExtRom 1.72.170
The yellow light is always on and the batterie runs very fast out of energy (1-2 hours) and it´s always says charging and think it´s connected to AC power...
Possible fix to "always charging" problem
:idea: I got the same problem yesterday but I think I fixed it. (long rant)
By coincidence I was just finishing up after an upgrade to WM5 with Ramdisk when it happened. Of cource I suspected the upgrade to be the problem.
However, I remembered that I had gotten some snow onto the PDA exiting my car some hours previously, and started to suspect that this had created a short in the system somewhere.
Looking into the charge plug hole I could see that half og the bottom of the hole was covered with some light gray stuff. I used a thoothpick to gently scrape on it and lo and behold a big (relatively) wad of pocket lint came out. It had obviously become wet from the snow and created a short.
Everything works just like normal now. Charge stays fine (especially with my new 1700mAh eBay battery, recomended)
I have not had the problem return after the "fix". Fingers crossed.
I don't think everyone has exactly the same problem but I suspect it is caused by a slight short in the plug area in most cases.
Good luck!
In relation to this, when I sync my XDA II to my PC via the cradle, the phone automatically charges (even without the power supply). Is there a way to disable this charging feature? Cause the battery life will be shortened if charging happens when the battery is not drained first.
Thanks
pogi said:
In relation to this, when I sync my XDA II to my PC via the cradle, the phone automatically charges (even without the power supply). Is there a way to disable this charging feature? Cause the battery life will be shortened if charging happens when the battery is not drained first.
Thanks
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My 2i does this as well, from what I have read this will not damage the battery. LiOn batteries prefer to be recharged before they get fully drained, in fact they like to be topped up rather then ran flat then fully charged. This is only going by what I have read on the internet, but it was on several differnt sites so I have no reason to think the info is duff.
Tx a lot for the confortable info.
@threadstarter:
the warranty should begin again if you receive a new device!
the warranty is on the device, not on the contract you have!
if you continue that way you should have a new one every half year ;-)
greetz Stefan

[Q] Battery Leakage

I woke up this morning and found my phone was mildly wet on the bottom. I slid open the keyboard to make sure it wasn't wet everywhere and it wasn't. After I dried off the bottom and started using it it began getting wet again. When I opened the battery cover to investigate I found the source of the liquid and immediately pulled the battery out. There is now discoloration on the battery and inside the battery hutch. The battery appears to have stopped leaking this liquid but it has only been an hour. I am obviously concerned that this has damaged my phone. The phone was working though when I checked my email and discovered it was wet.
When I researched it said Lithium ion batteries aren't supposed to leak but this is the only explanation I can come up with. The phone wasn't near water and since the top half of the phone wasn't wet, this must be the case.
Is my phone damaged?
Can I use the old battery from the TP2 (both batteries say RHO160 on them)?
Very strange. Can't you just swap it out at a Sprint location?
ummm get that switched out immediately. new battery, new phone, whatever...just get it taken care off. That ain't good at all.
I can't just go to a sprint store because I don't live in the US heh. My phone is unbranded so I'm waiting for HTC to respond.
The phone is still working fine but I'm using the battery from my TP2 and it's been working since early afternoon yesterday. I'm still worried it might start acting up though, fingers crossed.
I have 5 Arrives (five members of the family, each with their own......I really do like the phone). One of our phones gets excessively hot when charging via USB from a computer (but not when charging via the wall plug). How were you charging it?
Even still, I suspect there is some sort of power management issue in some of them phones.
I was charging from the wall plug, not from USB. The only time my phone gets warm is if I'm playing games on it for over an hour .
What happened to your battery mate. My phone also heats up a bit more these days and I am interested in what to expect.
Cheers,

Horrible battery life after washing cell phone

My gf washed my phone. It had like 7% or less when it went into wash. Full cycle.
I took battery out, put in rice for like 2 days, then I put it in warm place, on dash of car in sun for 20 minutes at a time in between delivering pizzas, ect....
I throw away the battery, and I use one of my back-up HD2 batteries. I use the external charger to charge it.
I boot it up, and it works! Touch screen, buttons, internet, speaker, camera! EVERYTHING. The screen after 2 days even looks perfect. No discoloration.
One issue.....
Battery drain. It loses like 1-2% battery per minute, even in airplane mode and screen is off. It won't last more than 40 minutes with moderate to low usage.
I plugged it into USB via my pc when it was at 15%. An hour passes, and now it's 3%. I confirm that it is plugged in, and the "charging" animation happens.
It's not the battery, because it's brand new.
What is the issue? Is it a short? Can I fix this? The phone is 100% working condition except for the horrible battery life.
I appreciate anyone's insight into this issue....
I had a similar issue on an older HTC Elf way back in the WM6.1 days(... lol 'way back').
I hope you have insurance and a friend who can sell it that it's not your fault to get you a new phone for free cause this is probably damaged some component inside the phone. Fixing it your self is pretty much impossible since it's not encouraged at all (there is very little support resources) and the manufacturer isn't just going to sell you parts to fix your phone.
If you don't have insurance I wish you the best of luck anyways.
(However I hope I'm wrong about all this, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. :\ )
chrisportela said:
I had a similar issue on an older HTC Elf way back in the WM6.1 days(... lol 'way back').
I hope you have insurance and a friend who can sell it that it's not your fault to get you a new phone for free cause this is probably damaged some component inside the phone. Fixing it your self is pretty much impossible since it's not encouraged at all (there is very little support resources) and the manufacturer isn't just going to sell you parts to fix your phone.
If you don't have insurance I wish you the best of luck anyways.
(However I hope I'm wrong about all this, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. :\ )
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Yeah....no insurance unfortunately...
I know the phone is going for $295 shipped NEW on ebay at the moment, but still...
I don't know if I want a new HD2 or if I should just wait a month or two until the Samsung Hercules comes out.....
You are lucky that your phone is working....it seems there is some short on the board...which is difficult to repair as most of these have 7 layers PCBs....sell it off and get a new one..
nice that it still works.. sounds like a short though if your battery is getting drained.. tough stuff is even if you dry it completely the water leaves residue on the circuitry. even if you get rid of the battery draining, the circuitry is more vulnerable to further damaging all on its own

[Q] Water Damage: Microphone and battery drain problems

Ok, I was stupid. I jumped in the pool with my HTC One S. After 24 hours of letting it dry everything works perfectly EXCEPT Two items. (It has been over a week since the incident)
1. The microphone NO LONGER works. I can use the speaker phone to talk, but now I can't use the phone as regular phone. Is there anyway to fix this? Replace it? For now I am just going to use a bluetooth headset.
2. The battery drains CRAZY fast compared to before. Could the water have damaged the battery, or did it damage something else that is causing the battery to drain. Is there a replacement battery yet available?
Otherwise, the phone works as new.
Thanks!
Are you sure the microphone itself is damaged? I once had a few drops of water go into my HTC Legend, and the earpiece/mic stopped working, BUT it was because the phone thought there was a headset plugged in, not because the earpiece/mic themselves were damaged. The problem resolved itself eventually.
Try powering off the device and sealing it in a ziplock bag with some uncooked rice for a while, that should hopefully soak out any moisture.
Dunno about the battery drain though, but would be useful to get an app like BetterBatteryStats to see if there is anything that is obviously draining the battery software wise.
Its possible to replace the microphone, I just seen a site that will do it, Maybe you could repair it yourself if you feel upto the job..
However i cannot see any sites for replacement battery, Its not like a normal battery, Well it kinda is only it doesnt have the gold connectors, It has wires that are soldered directly to the motherboard.. I saw this on a youtube video..
If you are good with this sorta stuff, try to fix it yourself on the cheap..
I would say the battery drain is due to water damage, Maybe damaged connections between battery and phone... But you cannot guarantee this
Check this video at 3:40 the battery actually has a connector, http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...=&feature=player_embedded&v=b0jGY2N2h1U&gl=SE
Batteries should pop up on ebay soon I'd guess, didn't find any now though. Use Ville and Z520e for search terms if One S returns to much crap
So it does, !!
I saw a similar video but it wasnt that clear, It looked like them 3 wires where soldered to the motherboard. Its reassuring knowing that it isnt.
Still, Replacing it looks tricky, But i guess your warranty is void cause of the water damage so looks like you could replace the battery
However, finding one is hard, i searched everywhere and all i can find it the external batteries...... perhaps you could invest in one of these for the time being ?
Dont you have any mobile insurance or contents insurance ? you could claim for repairs / replacement on that !

[Q] Strange power problem

My HTC Sensation seems to have a very strange power problem and I am hoping someone can help. Around four months ago my phone started switching itself off when I went to do something, it could be read a text, make a call or maybe send a text. What I noticed is when I turned the phone back on the battery level would jump down, it could “lose” 20-60% of its battery life.
If I then put it on charge it would never return to 100% unless I restarted it, it was almost as if the phone didn’t recognise the % of battery it had “lost”. This could happen many times a day and once it switched itself off around 15-20 times as I tried to make a phone call when hiking in the mountains.
The only time it keeps working is if it is connected to a power source. Also when it does switch off I notice it becomes quite hot at the bottom of the screen.
I swapped batteries with my girlfriend who has the Sensation XE and with her battery my phone worked fine but with my battery her touchscreen wasn’t as responsive as normal which was very strange.
I was running the HTC stock firmware but I moved to CyanogenMod to play with it and see if it was a software issue but the problem continues with CyanogenMod.
I spoke to HTC but they said I was out with my 12 month accessory warranty so I’d have to buy a new battery. The problem kept happening and it drove me round the bend for a while until I just decided I’d buy an Anker battery. I’ve had it for almost two months and all was going well until yesterday when my phone turned itself off as I tried to send a text.
Since then it must have turned itself off around 6 times either trying to make a call, read a text or send one.
Does anyone have any ideas? I thought it was just a dud battery at first but now with the exact same thing happening to the second one I wonder if it’s something else.
Thanks
try to put a piece of paper or something to fit where the battery connects with the device
maybe loses somehow the connection
best wishes
Hi Lsmith,
This issue seems to happen on many Sensation devices... but there is hope!
Sometimes it's due to a custom Rom or due to a let's say "faulty" connection between battery and the connectors of your device.
- I would first suggest to charge your phone up to 100% (if possible). After that, perform a reset (make a backup) and look how your device behaves.
- If you still detect the same behavior follow this thread ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531232 (check out the last picture). This is the so called paper trick...
For me it's enough placing a folded paper on the battery itself, covering part of the sim card. Just try out what suits you best.
Cheers
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Thanks guys, I'll take a look at that thread.

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