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What's my cheapest option to trial GPS Navigation?

Hi all
I'm toying with the idea of getting a GPS based navigation system to use with my QTEK 2020i.
I think that the Navigator kits are quite pricey for someone who isn't sure they;lll get the use out of them though.
What's my cheapest option if I wanted to try this stuff out?
I don't mind buying a generic GPS receiver as I'm sure I can use it for something else (!?????) other than satnav.
Is it as simple as buying one of those £29 GPS reciever jobbys off ebay and then downloading a trial version of tomtom???
Cheers all
Wayne

there is no version for trialing tomtom. your best bet would be to to buy a kit from 1 of the online shops to be honest and i wouldn't recomend ebay as they are not legal copy's and hence don't work properly

andy-c1 said:
there is no version for trialing tomtom. your best bet would be to to buy a kit from 1 of the online shops to be honest and i wouldn't recomend ebay as they are not legal copy's and hence don't work properly
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eh?
So I can't download like a 30-day trial!...How do they expect people to know if the product is anygood?
I know it probably is but that for me isn't the point...I want to see if I'll actually use it and how I'll use it, that's how I'll know if it's worth me buying it.
Cheers
Wayne

Well, I bought a Qstarz BT-Q880 32-channel GPS receiver, which works excellently with the XDA 2i and TomTom 5.
However, I did download TomTom 5 via BitTorrent... Purely for evaluation purposes. Of course.
If you have €369 to lend me (with long-term repayments at a low interest rate) so I can buy the damn thing straight away, then hell I'll buy it straight away. I do think they charge an arm and a leg - and the Plus maps (the more detailed versions of the maps) cost a good €150 extra - at least.
The long and short of it is that you'll have to break the law in some way or another if you want to evaluate GPS software before you make your own purchase of the software - which I do intend to do when I have the cash (Uni students don't really have that much spare to be honest, but I do buy the software for my XDA whenever I can).

just to say though, no matter how you aquire the software, a basic GPS receiver is still gonna cost you around £45 - £50 via Ebay.
And I'm not sure what other use you would have for it other than SatNav, except maybe wifi hotspot logging.

Geocacheing!

Gajet said:
just to say though, no matter how you aquire the software, a basic GPS receiver is still gonna cost you around £45 - £50 via Ebay.
And I'm not sure what other use you would have for it other than SatNav, except maybe wifi hotspot logging.
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still, that's a lot cheaper than paying £££ on TomTom!
If I did it this way and then used a less-than-legit version to trial it, I could then upgrade to a proper version later and then sell the GPS receiver.
If I buy TomTom now and don't use/like it then I stand to loose a lot more money (especially seeing as the general impression people seem to have is that TomTom on ebay is fake or no good).
...you see my predicament
Cheers
Wayne

If you did fancy Geocaching or even just the chance of an Ordanace survey map. I recommend 'aquiring' a copy Memory Map too. I have both on my xda iis, Tomtom drives you to the local area, and memory map will plot everything after that.

Now that sounds like a plan...

Gajet said:
If you did fancy Geocaching or even just the chance of an Ordanace survey map. I recommend 'aquiring' a copy Memory Map too. I have both on my xda iis, Tomtom drives you to the local area, and memory map will plot everything after that.
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Geowhating? Sorry to sound dumb but you've lost me now :S
Cheers
Wayne

dispite all it's bad press on most websites tomtom on the whole is a very good product ,i persoanlly havn't had any reall issues with tomtom apart from the problem being the sd card being to slow with the 2i , i've signed up for the traffic updates which i find to be about 90% correct
i also think most of the problems arise because people are using illegal versions

andy-c1 said:
dispite all it's bad press on most websites tomtom on the whole is a very good product ,i persoanlly havn't had any reall issues with tomtom apart from the problem being the sd card being to slow with the 2i , i've signed up for the traffic updates which i find to be about 90% correct
i also think most of the problems arise because people are using illegal versions
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Not sure I agree with the problems all being down to illegal copies (more so on the 2i).
This is my main concern. If I shell out for an app that crashes etc with little to no support/help from TomTom.
As it is I will probably try a dodgy copy and if it's stable I'll get a proper version. I know that a bad copy may be the cause of the crashes but with TomTom not supplying a trial copy how do they expect people to make an informed decision? You wouldn't buy a car without test driving it would you?!
Nearly all software (including that on the Pocket PC platform) provide trial versions. I've even seen some posts on here to suggest that TomTom used to do this...but not now for some reason?
Lost business I say.
Cheers
Wayne

dotn got to halford and have play with a tomtom go or one the app is the same as is the maps as anis the andy says there have been problems with the 2i this is mainly down to a hardware issue the way round it most users have found is to get a the fastest sd card you can find currently mappopolis is the olny vendor to have a 30 day trial

Aye, I must say for the record that TomTom on my 2i MOSTLY works fine, it only crashes out if you do something like try to use the Ring Number feature - it'll show the screen, but as soon as you select the Point Of Interest category you want, it has a think about it then crashes back to the desktop.
The same if you load up too many Points of Interest on a map, I've also found. I guess that's most likely down to the fairly old SD card I have, an old PNY 256Mb card - but it does the job very nicely, and just has enough space on it (6.66Mb! remaining) to store the TT files, the Netherlands map and the Great Britain Plus map. If you want to load more maps though, you'll definitely need the 1Gb card, the France plus map is something like 370mb - and the main Western Europe map is even bigger.

DotN said:
Geowhating? Sorry to sound dumb but you've lost me now :S
Cheers
Wayne
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I can't say I've ever tried it, but Geocaching is a bit of a GPS treasure hunt. People leave these caches hidden in "interesting" places and provide the GPS coordinates to a website, then other people can use their GPS devices to locate the cache and leave a message in the notebook, take photos with the camera or maybe even recieve a little prize. It's for those odd people who go outside, when they could be huddled up in the warm over their PC's
If that vaguely interests you you could look at
http://www.gagb.org.uk/

DotN said:
Hi all
I'm toying with the idea of getting a GPS based navigation system to use with my QTEK 2020i.
I think that the Navigator kits are quite pricey for someone who isn't sure they;lll get the use out of them though.
What's my cheapest option if I wanted to try this stuff out?
I don't mind buying a generic GPS receiver as I'm sure I can use it for something else (!?????) other than satnav.
Is it as simple as buying one of those £29 GPS reciever jobbys off ebay and then downloading a trial version of tomtom???
Cheers all
Wayne
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www.mapopolis.com

Mapopolis looks promising from the site, their bundles are quite handy if you don't want all the extra steps of buying the phone holder, buying the carkit... All of which I did, hasssssssle - I do think I would miss the nifty 3D view which TomTom displays whilst you're navigating your way through the world, but I guess that's only because I'm feeling spoilt now.
When it comes to caching, geocaching.com used to be one of the definitive sources of info on the net, but it's suffering server problems at the moment.
Other good sites:
http://www.gpss.tripoduk.com/caching/
http://www.gagb.org.uk/guidelines/guidelines.php - deserves a second mention, as it's a very useful site...
And of course, http://www.geocaching.org.uk/ ! Get caching kiddos.

mapopolis
download mapopolis demo and ill show u how to register it free...its good software and free!

christopherwoods said:
Aye, I must say for the record that TomTom on my 2i MOSTLY works fine, it only crashes out if you do something like try to use the Ring Number feature - it'll show the screen, but as soon as you select the Point Of Interest category you want, it has a think about it then crashes back to the desktop.
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have you upgraded your tomtom as mine did exactly the same till the new upgrade i havn't had to soft reset since then

I don't have to soft reset, the program just crashes back to the Today screen. I don't really need to use the Ring Number feature anyway, kinda pointless as I can just 118 500.
The issue is moot anyway, since I'm using a less-than-100%-legitimate copy... I'm sure once I have a job post-University I'll be able to afford to buy it, but until then I'm not keeping my hopes up.

IPhone Clone(WM6)

So yeah I got a IPhone clone that has WM6 and it's all running smoothly enough.
I've got a couple of issues that have lead me to think about flashing the ROM.
First off the processor is apparently always at 100% cpu even though most of the apps run fine and anytime I try to overclock the OMAP850 in it it'll just white the screen out.
So I figured maybe the ROM was a bit dodge and apparently so.
I got GEN_WM6_...
and according to the rom update utility my current ce image version is
Ôج$Øج$
Basically gibberish, when I try to run the update it complains that it can't connect to the phone.
I'm running Vista so that may have something to do with it as well. Also I don't know how to get the phone into bootloader mode as it doesn't have any front buttons just 2 for volume on the left and 2 on the right for camera and some unknown function.
Oh yeah, the other question, should I be able to flash any ROM image on to it as long as it's WM6? I'm not using Verizon, I'm using Optus in Australia.
Can anyone help me with this weird and well most probably extremely difficult problem as the phone isn't really mainstream.

Critical_Impact said:
So yeah I got a IPhone clone that has WM6 and it's all running smoothly enough.
I've got a couple of issues that have lead me to think about flashing the ROM.
First off the processor is apparently always at 100% cpu even though most of the apps run fine and anytime I try to overclock the OMAP850 in it it'll just white the screen out.
So I figured maybe the ROM was a bit dodge and apparently so.
I got GEN_WM6_...
and according to the rom update utility my current ce image version is
Ôج$Øج$
Basically gibberish, when I try to run the update it complains that it can't connect to the phone.
I'm running Vista so that may have something to do with it as well. Also I don't know how to get the phone into bootloader mode as it doesn't have any front buttons just 2 for volume on the left and 2 on the right for camera and some unknown function.
Oh yeah, the other question, should I be able to flash any ROM image on to it as long as it's WM6? I'm not using Verizon, I'm using Optus in Australia.
Can anyone help me with this weird and well most probably extremely difficult problem as the phone isn't really mainstream.
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You can't just get flash a rom for one phone another. It is really hard to determine which base rom is it because there are so many iPhone clones with WinMo.
Many have no technical support whatsoever, meaning there won't be an update from the clone's manufacture.

we3zy said:
You just get flash a rom for one phone another.
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Forgive me for correcting you we3zy but I'm sure you mean you CANNOT use any roms other than your phone manufacturers version.

Finding out who the manafacturer is, is going to be a challenge for sure
I guess my main issue is that whenever I try to change the clock speed on it(it has a OMAP 850) the screen goes white and I have to do a soft reset to get it to work properly.

Hey which iphone clones are running wm6?

ratcom said:
Forgive me for correcting you we3zy but I'm sure you mean you CANNOT use any roms other than your phone manufacturers version.
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My mistake there, thanks for correcting me. Typo.

decimusmaximus7 said:
Hey which iphone clones are running wm6?
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I believe there's a zzzPhone. Google it. Its looks very cheap however.

I just looked at the zzzPhone, sounds like not a bad device but it doesn't look anything like an iphone.

Sorry, thinking of the wrong thing. Here's the link
iPhone Clone

we3zy said:
Sorry, thinking of the wrong thing. Here's the link
iPhone Clone
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I have seen this one but no price. Anyone know where you can purchase it?

we3zy said:
Sorry, thinking of the wrong thing. Here's the link
iPhone Clone
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Yeah that's the one I have.

Critical_Impact said:
Yeah that's the one I have.
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Well that makes it easy, where did you get it from?

I got it from specialphones.eu
Here is the link http://www.specialphones.eu/en/store/10175

aaaaahahaha you bought one really??!
oh man, how much did you pay in us dollars?

I would love one of these clones running windows mobile but not at the price on that site. The ones not running wm6 are around $150 on ebay. Anyone know a cheaper place that has the wm6 iphone clone?

I may have found the real name for the phone and a slightly cheaper price.
http://www.sourcinggate.com/p1317/D...ILE-6.0-Triband-Smart-Phone/product_info.html

@Critical_Impact Would love to know how this phone compairs to say a Wizard or Hermes? does it do everything it says correctly? i.e. dims backlight ect I ask only my girlfriend wants a iphone which I refuse to buy as its very expensive however I don't think £170 is a lot especially if a ok windows pocket pc

Wow, guess the iPhone just lost its advantage: its design. Now if they only could do the same with the nokia.....
These people can design the hell out of a handset but they run a crappy OS.

Here are a lot of *cough* *cough* clone *cough* phones running wm
http://www.eemobi.cn/Mobile/Search.aspx?CustomCategoryId=44
Including the touch
And even more of those phone's with a dodgy chinese OS
http://www.eemobi.cn/
Nice to know that site if you ever want a reserve phone. (now the only thing is to figure out how to flash them with a rom in my language )

Gotta hand it to the Chinese. I would buy one of those iPhone-like handsets if they ran a WWE ROM.

Copilot 7

Hi guys,
Don't know if this is the right place for this question, but is anyone familiar with CoPilot 7 software? I am considering buying, but just wanted to see if anyone else has used it.
Thanks,
Chris

Hi
I think my wife has it on her Touch. It is pretty easy to use, but sometimes doesn't find the shortest route. Gets you there in the end and if you take a wrong turn it sorts it out for you pretty quickly.
Whichway

i perfer iGuidance

I was looking at this at http://www.pressdigital.com.au/navigation-vehicle-tracking-mapping/copilot-windows-mobile-australia-p-5390.html. Is this a good price, and would you recommend it?

are u looking for USA or Australia version?

A friend of mine has it on his O2 Orbit and he went to it from Tom Tom as it came free with the PDA once he got used to it he likes it and loves the way it updates the speed camera's as it starts up (UK version)

Netnerd - I am looking for the Australia version.
Owl - Thanks. Definitely sounds like it's worth a try.
Chris

Thanks for all your help. I just ordered it, and I will post back here in a few days to let you know how it goes.
Thanks,
Chris

Received my order already! Easy to follow installation. Everything looks great. I will try it out, and post back in a few days.
Thanks everyone

I Am Not Amazed...It's the standard of PressDigital....
Hi cajohnson,
I am not amazed that Press Digital Send it you this Quickly. I bought My CoPilot 7 from them few weeks back and to be honest they know how to treat their customers.
By the way What i like most about Copilot 7 is it's Easy to Use Navigation
and it's Easy Destination Entry. 3D Maps just makes best out of perfects. So i also reccommend it if, anyone wish to buy it...Don't hesitate...!
Thanks,
Alenka

You're right. I love it, and Press Digital was great to deal with. I love how easy it is to re-route and get you back on track. Took a trip yesterday for work, and really got to try it out. I was really impressed.
Thanks,
Chris

Im absolutely satisfect with Ndrive.. you should try it

Personally, I think Google Maps is an acceptable navigation program especially factoring the fact that its free.

just got a new X05HT. A few observations

This was just released in Japan today. Anyway, I just upgraded to it and just want to say it (so far) seems like a nice upgrade from my old X01HT. (which I will miss, though).
The box is the usual Softbank white square (boring) box. Accessories include a charger, mini-usb headphone jack converter, spare stylus and a leather (non-magnetic!) case. No headphones are included; nor a micro SD card
When it is first booted there is about data: 271 MG free (322); Programs: 130 MG free (200)
Included software:
the usual, + mp3 trimmer, cleavevue presentation, jetcet print 5, navitime, quckmark, rss hub -
Nice points:
-The camera takes nice photos (seem to be nice and clear with no blur indoors; can't wait to try it outdoors)
-There are front and rear cameras
-The default rom seems nice (in Japanese of course). There seems to be no way to change it to English though.
-Touch Flo 3D does not seem to suffer from any lag (yet) and the overall speed seems good.
-Included mail program (Softbank mail) is a huge upgrade from the old Softbank mail which was included with the X01HT! It does not seem to suffer from lag or other issues.
Bad Points:
None, yet! ;-) If I find any you can be sure I will update this.
Anyway, I will play around with it for a few days and then attempt to flash to an English rom....

tora201 said:
-The default rom seems nice (in Japanese of course). There seems to be no way to change it to English though.
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Was trying to find the setting also; Japanese WM6.1 so Japanese only.
tora201 said:
Anyway, I will play around with it for a few days and then attempt to flash to an English rom....
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How about the SIM lock?
/mek

Do you mean the X05HT?

I have not had time to check whether it is sim locked or not (I suspect it is).
I did hard spl flash it though -- no problem. Now at least we can upgrade the rom.
Ah, speaking of which, when upgrading I would love to have the new Japanese IE that is used in the original Japanese rom - I suspect that it won’t be too long before somebody like Askul comes up with a cab; it is much better than current solutions, and allows for word prediction when using English, for example.
Likewise, if the Softbank mail settings could be exported, that would be great. Softbank mail in this rom uses a modified version of Arcsoft's MMS ver. 5. (Settings seem to be hidden/unavailable).
Things I have noticed with the Softbank rom after 24 hours:
-slows down periodically (even after manila tweaks)
-Music skips a lot
So, it does look as though I will be upgrading as soon as I can to a better rom.... only wish there was a better mms solution....

damn... yeah, I did mean the x05ht..
sbreen said:
Do you mean the X05HT?
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How do I change the thread title? oooops!
EDIT: Ahh... fixed it! I won't blame that mistake on the beers I drank last night to celebrate the arrival of my new phone, then!

How much was the upgrade ?
Thinking about buying it or just purchasing a Touch HD from internet (THe new omnia is rally good but insanely expensive...)

Alcibiade said:
How much was the upgrade ?
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I had so much payments left from my X01T that I opted for getting a new SIM and paying for the phone. It was 49.140 yens. So now I ended up with my fifth SIM from SoftBank, they told me that is the max number one can have. So I hope they do not come up with a better phone soon now

tora201 said:
I have not had time to check whether it is sim locked or not (I suspect it is).
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That was the first thing I checked when I got home; yes it is SIM locked. But then I did not expect anything else from SoftBank so I was not actually disappointed.
I was just wondering if the unlocks work with SoftBank also?
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I did hard spl flash it though -- no problem. Now at least we can upgrade the rom.
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I think I am in front of some learning; my first HTC so have never done any flashing... Better go and study this site now

tora201 said:
How do I change the thread title? oooops!
EDIT: Ahh... fixed it! I won't blame that mistake on the beers I drank last night to celebrate the arrival of my new phone, then!
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Ehh go ahead and blame the beers
Can you dump the current rom before you start flashing? I don't think I've seen it any where else.

I am actually dumping it as we speak.
Also, see the following thread, regarding Japanese IME. I think that flinx1 is going to try and extract the IME from the Softbank rom and make a .cab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550&page=2&highlight=x05ht
Anyway, I will go ahead and upload the raw files as soon as I have finished the dump.
Cheers!

Yea I just saw that you dumped it in that thread. Thanks a lot!

Here is the full rom, all four raw parts. Please note I seemed to have problems with par3. It gave some error which I don't remember, although it did seem to dump the file OK. Please let me know if there are problems with par3 and I will try and redo it.
(pending) somebody told me to remove par3 because it may contain sensitive user information. I will do so and re-post. In the meantime if you did download it, then please ignore any of my personal stuff. ;-)

I'm going to be upgrading next week. Do you know if it ran any dodgy stuff on first run? (Like the X01HT white model did?)
How about the back of the case, is it the bumpy one as shown on Softbank's site, or smooth?

Hey mate, it is sort of rubbery (like the original touch pro case, I think).
There are pictures here: (it seems exactly the same as the softbank one).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455650
And yeah it did run a lot of s**t on first start-up. It takes about five minutes to complete. After that, your phone is locked for life! NOT. Go here and PM for instructions on how to unlock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426609
I read on the diamond forum about a guy in Japan who unlocked his x04ht (so should work on the x05ht)

x05ht
so... any news?? this phone is super cool... but i think it would be even more super cool if it was english, so i could have slightly more than a superficial understanding of what was actually going on...
is it possible to make this phone english??

enki7777 said:
so... any news?? this phone is super cool... but i think it would be even more super cool if it was english, so i could have slightly more than a superficial understanding of what was actually going on...
is it possible to make this phone english??
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Want it in English? No problem. Follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
then flash with your favorite rom. It should take you all of 15 minutes to do.

tora201 said:
I read on the diamond forum about a guy in Japan who unlocked his x04ht (so should work on the x05ht)
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If for any reason the phone has to be send back for repairs or some such is there a way to simlock it again? I guess SoftBank would not be very happy receiving unlocked phone (you see I am only worrying about their feelings )
Also won't flashing a new rom lose all the SB settings? I am mostly worrying about the access numbers for internet use as the last time I used my foreign bought Nokia I ended up with 120.000 yen bill for a month's usage...

Tora201
You've been quiet for awhile. Have you flashed your baby yet. Is there a softbank connection setup cab available yet.

dejanet said:
Tora201
You've been quiet for awhile. Have you flashed your baby yet. Is there a softbank connection setup cab available yet.
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There are ways to get the softbank connection going for the x01ht. See this. I guess it might work (havent tried it myself)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441400
(edit: seems that it might not work) but see here (post 35) for more on the x04ht and a possible solution to getting softbank settings working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ighlight=x04ht
It is more that I need input that allows for word prediction (as in the default rom) - in both Japanese/English). With the asukal solution you lose this feature.... there seem to be a few people working on various solutions but nothing has eventuated yet.
Oh, and I did flash it once -- just for fun. It did not seem to make the device any snappier compared to the original anyway. I guess it might be better to wait for somebody to find a solution to the "performance issue":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449391
Best!

I am completly new to this so please excuse my ignorance... I am from japan and i had the X02HT... and i absolutly fell in love with it.... now my contract is up and i want to upgrade to the X05HT with softbank.... after reading some of the post i came to the conclusion that it does not have english region settings... my question is once i flash the rom will i be able to have the menus in english... and also will the SMS and S!Mail still work...? I really want this phone but if this is not possible then i will have to resort to the X03HT.. please help!
patiently waiting a response!
GregTHEnewGUY

Confused with G1

I have posted here for awhile mainly over the Tilt and Wing phones. However I now have a G1 and I am confused. I first bought the G1 over craigslist and swore it had bluetooth audio working. I didn't like the web on it as much as my iPhone so I restored it and was going to sell it. Most on craigslist just wanted $100 for it so I thought no way I will just keep it and they will update it etc.. Plus I didn't like how my iPhone didn't have bluetooth audio.
I re-activated my phone and now no bluetooth audio... I could be hallucinating I guess, maybe a2dp never was working and I am thinking pf just my tilt. I have searched these forums and Google and every post I see says A2DP came with a "cupcake" update in late January 09... however my phone says its up to date and I can't find how to activate it.
Now I have also read about how people are rooting their phones etc.. I am very computer versed and did custom roms and unlocking on my old HTC phones but just a bit out of my element I guess.
Any help would be appreciated!

Your phone says it is up to date probably because it is searching for a T-Mobile USA update. The Android 1.5 rollout for T-Mobile USA hasn't begun yet. It is scheduled to begin in a few days. When that occurs you will have proper A2DP.

Just wait for 1.5 U.S. update (aka "Cupcake") The update suppose to be sent this week coming according to Dominic, T-mobile forums Moderator.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=Android_MR&thread.id=1

Ok cool! Sorry to repost if I did (I didn't see anything when I searched though)
A2DP is a huge asset over the iphone imo... its the reason I put the iPhone away and pulled this G1 back out...
Any word on multitouch for the G1 though? I like being able to pinch and resize webpages.

alvarez1900 said:
Ok cool! Sorry to repost if I did (I didn't see anything when I searched though)
A2DP is a huge asset over the iphone imo... its the reason I put the iPhone away and pulled this G1 back out...
Any word on multitouch for the G1 though? I like being able to pinch and resize webpages.
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You need to root and mod to get Multitouch on the Browser. JFv1.5 ADP. Also comes with A2DP

Not to be a jerk, but you literally had to gloss over like 15 threads all highlighting how to get AD2P and multitouch on your G1 to get to the button to post your thread. This forum is congested enough with people asking redundant questions in individual threads let alone making whole new ones. Next time try searching, or at the very least reading the sticky threads at the top that have "Read First!" plastered all over them.

alvarez1900 said:
Ok cool! Sorry to repost if I did (I didn't see anything when I searched though)
A2DP is a huge asset over the iphone imo... its the reason I put the iPhone away and pulled this G1 back out...
Any word on multitouch for the G1 though? I like being able to pinch and resize webpages.
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And iphone will have a2dp in the newest software update.
Multitouch you will need a custom rom by jesusfreke, haykuro or dude. if you install one of those you will get a2dp as well

krazyconejo said:
Just wait for 1.5 U.S. update (aka "Cupcake") The update suppose to be sent this week coming according to Dominic, T-mobile forums Moderator.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=Android_MR&thread.id=1
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cl2eep said:
Not to be a jerk, but you literally had to gloss over like 15 threads all highlighting how to get AD2P and multitouch on your G1 to get to the button to post your thread. This forum is congested enough with people asking redundant questions in individual threads let alone making whole new ones. Next time try searching, or at the very least reading the sticky threads at the top that have "Read First!" plastered all over them.
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I went thru about 50 threads all multiple pages with mentions of rooting and a2dp in coming update called cupcake then I found threads that said cupcake was RC30? however many say the newest update is RC33 also said update was set to come out in late january and it is now almost mid may so I assumed it had to be out. There is a ton of misinformation!

xdavidn88 said:
You need to root and mod to get Multitouch on the Browser. JFv1.5 ADP. Also comes with A2DP
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Thanks I am excited because I am soooo sick of Windows Mobile and I am a linux ubuntu, suze and red hat freak anyways so I think once I get going a lot will come natuarally! I am hoping anyways!

RC30 was the 3rd update from Google, then came RC33, which is the current stock build(or build, or at least was until Cupcake/1.5 came out. 1.5 has AD2P and many updates. Those of us with Root access can install cooked ROMS, which thanks to guys like Hayruko and Jesusfreke, are already using the 1.5 firmware and have been for a month or so, along with Hacks like multitouch. This info is all readily available on this forum and places like Engaget.

cl2eep said:
RC30 was the 3rd update from Google, then came RC33, which is the current stock build(or build, or at least was until Cupcake/1.5 came out. 1.5 has AD2P and many updates. Those of us with Root access can install cooked ROMS, which thanks to guys like Hayruko and Jesusfreke, are already using the 1.5 firmware and have been for a month or so, along with Hacks like multitouch. This info is all readily available on this forum and places like Engaget.
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awesome thanks! now its available on the 1st page of this thread also. Thanks to everyone my G1 is now rooted and running JF.

multi touch really isnt that great....
ad2p is however sweeeeeeeeeet

bakgwailo said:
multi touch really isnt that great....
ad2p is however sweeeeeeeeeet
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So far it seems to work just like the iPhones multitouch! Its just as sweet as the A2DP imho!