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I'm running Faria's final edition of WM6 on my Wizard, pretty much stock except for mun's keyboard and a few apps. This rom is almost perfect for my needs.
The only problem is that when the wizard is connected to my computer USB port to charge, it won't go to sleep... In fact, if I press the power button, it turns off for maybe a minute then turns right back on again!
I searched the forums looking for an answer and came up with very little. I do recall seeing some tips for preventing this behavior several months ago but can't seem to find the post anymore (???).
Actually I had this issue fixed on this rom at one time, but then I went and re-flashed about 20 times, trying all the latest cooked versions out there before returning to Faria's. But now I can't recall the fix for the power-on problem!
So, could someone help me out and re-post the fix?
Many thanks in advance...
Don't know of a fix, but this happened to me also when using Faria's ROM and still happens now using the NBD ROM.
Have same problem with Core 2.0n
Same with my XDA ROM. I thought thats a WM6 feature that I have to live with.
It's a common problem then...
Ok, this sounds like a common problem then.
I've been thinking about it, and if I recall, I think the posted fix might have been from mrfrazz or dr puttingham... I'll try to PM them (not that they know me) and see if I can get them onto the thread....
Wasn't from me.
Ok thanks for that mrfrazzz.
How many folks have this problem? Does anyone have a fix?
Sorry, not from me either.
remove the pin password (start -> settings -> lock). used to solve this problem for me on older WM6 rom's. Don't know if the problem still exists in the newer roms...
nbd 7.4 has this problem and also wm6 business edition.
I am using the Dopod Pro 838 [Mobile 5] and have the same issue, when connected it does not sleep, no matter how many times I close the screen off
Thanks everyone for chiming in. So this is a widespread problem.
Is there a solution? Or is everyone just living with it?
For what it's worth, I've searched and searched and can't find that post with the solution. The only reason I can think of is that the post was removed. (?)
Oh well. I guess I'm going to have to live with it like everyone else until an answer turns up. If anyone has any info or ideas post here and we'll try it out.
WM6 TNT 3.0.... same problem
settings, system, backlight settings?
i'm using an enhanced xm6 and i don't seem to have this problem when i charge with the usb at work (no activesync installation). perhaps you may need to disable that, because i recall reading somewhere that activesync tends to wake the phone from time to time to constantly resync pim information.
if you don't like the backlight on, you can go to settings, system, backlight, and change the settings there. I know on faria's roms, the backlight goes off after some time, even when it's plugged into the usb. t-mobile's default rom and the one i'm currently using don't turn off, unless i hit the power button. (but unlike what was initially stated, my phone doesn't turn back on).
or in case i've misinterpreted something...i recall reading that in some roms, the phone would keep waking up due to the push service and it would require some combination of locking the phone to get it working. in those cases, i believe you have to read the respective rom thread. i know farias "the real thing" thread has info on it.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into somehow getting better control over activesync.
Yeah, that's about where I'm at, just turning off the backlight and pretending the phone is off. But it still kind of irks me, all I want is for the phone to sync then go to sleep until I need it. And stay off when I hit the sleep button...
I've had this problem forever, and I consider it a "problem" because my phone is overclocked to 273, and I'd like to keep it off to keep the temperature down. It's definetly not a rom issue, but like someone else stated, it's an activesync issue. Even disabling sync options on activesync doesn't seem to help, only thing I can think of is uninstalling activesync, but who the hell wants to do that? Maybe preventing activesync from starting or running in the background on windows start, until you want to open activesync manually?
This is the random wake-up problem that first apeared in some build of WM5 (I guess). I too can't find much info on it but I guess you could remove the pin prompting. It happens due to activesync/wmdc and usb connection while the pin is enabled. I guess this is a bug in WM6 which is yet to be fixed. Hope microsoft and WM6 team reads this thread.
May be end tasking activesync in both phone and system will help. I haven't tried as I live with it and is not an issue for me.
with PhoneAlarm there is an option to disable the ActiveSync scheduling within a profile (eg profile work no ActiveSync, while ActiveSync will still be usable at home)
Maybe this can help you?
btw, PhoneAlarm has some other very nice features, it's still my nr 1 app for the wizard!
any one else getting it? unit goes in to standby and then wont wake up you have to soft reset.
ive been getting it frequently very anoying im using the big storage rom i dont rember who made it i can find out of some one wants to know
but is any one else having problems like me?
No problems here. I'm using the clean 1978 ROM...
I had it happen yesterday, running the stock AT&T ROM.
Hi
No problems here either.
It's worth remembering the phone wakes itself up about once an hour, although the display is dark so you will not see this happening.
If you have installed some software that doesn't handle this switching on very well and it crashes the phone, it will look the phone has died in standby, but it probably hasn't, it just looks that way.
I would advise a clean reset and not to install any programs, and see if it happens again. If it does your phone may be faulty, for example a memory problem that surfaces when the phone goes into a low power state.
Regards
Phil
Mine SOD'ed last night. I was using the phone, turned the screen off using the power button, then plugged it into my computer USB to charge. I was trying to do it one-handed and as you could imagine I was fiddling with the cable/phone for 30 seconds before I got the mini-usb plug into the phone. I watched to see the charging light come on but it didn't. I then tried to turn on the phone and realized I was SOD'ed. It only happens to me once every 1-2 weeks. My phone runs the stock Tilt ROM, but with lots of custom cabs installed, ie:
HTC Home 6 button
HTC Taskmanager 2.0 30995
Skype
Color Dot battery indicator
Schaps 10 Button Comm manager
PocketCM
Funambol 6.5.4
I push my phone all day long, surfing, ssh'ing into servers with putty, imap email, playing music etc, and I think if there was a bad memory issue Id see something other than an SOD. IMHO,theres a bug in the power management software.
SOD happened on my Tilt too. Im runnig the ATT rom. I had the same problem with the 8525 with the earlier ROM. The problem is IMAP email push. IF you use IMAP there is a chance you will get SOD once in a while. I changed all my emails to POP3 never had SOD since then.
I think you guys have to run the kaiser tweek to turn off the sleep mode in the registry. I had the SOD once....forgot to modify the registry via the kaisertweak app. 1st 2 options i think is what you have to modify.....that should fix you guys up.
Happened With Me too !!!
Now after using my at&t tilt flashed with HTC stock rom for 5 days, suddenly today my device suffered from a SOD.... had to soft-reset.... tried to figure out what went wrong but without any luck..... do any of u guys figured out the cause.... Kaiser Tweak only allows us to disable the sleep mode during call.....
kaiser falling sleep happens to me so frequently that I read all the posts with the key words KAISER FREEZE on xda-developers.
The only solution seems to power off and on again.
On modaco.com somebody posted a small applet which does automatically the power on-off for you.
Of course this does not remove the problem, just hide it...
Additionally I have tried 4 different WWE ROMS! from Att to HTC original ROMS to cooked Helmi aka 0.7.0 etc... No way to solve.
Please if modifying the registry can solve, can somebody post the link for kaiser tweaks and possibly the application?
Thanks
Saulo866
I think it might have something to do with Windows Live Maps program. This happend to me everytime I was using the program in the background. I upgraded the version and it stopped the problem I was having.
hollywood said:
I think it might have something to do with Windows Live Maps program. This happend to me everytime I was using the program in the background. I upgraded the version and it stopped the problem I was having.
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Same here... I upgraded to helmi_c's Tilt ROM and haven't had the problem since. Pretty much guarantted though, if you leave Live Search running in the background and your phone goes to sleep... it will not wake up with the stock ATT ROM (at least with the current version of Live Search).
Cheers!!
SOD has typical been associated with running programs off of a Storage card. I had tons of SOD problems with the early WM6 Hermes ROMs. So far I have only had SOD a few times on my Tilt (running austinsync's BigStorage ROM). I installed Google maps to my microSD and within 20 minutes had 3 SODs. I uninstalled it and they stoppped immediately (Live Search is way better anyway).
I would recommend installing any programs that you use heavily or leave running onto the main memory. Also, saving attachments to a storage card has been a known cause as well.
I think SOD issues will get better as more ROMs start coming out for the Kaiser (and the chefs keep cooking).
OK, this keeps happening to me with the AT&T ROM....today it happened with no programs running in the background, anybody figure out a solution yet?
Me too
well I've had this problem also while running my own cooked rom, however to be fair i had this problem in the early days of the hermes. I thought however that the hermes problem was related to activesync's push email and the data connection (i.e. switching between 3G and 2G alot making activesync trip out) That all said maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree?!
Oh just in case anyone as the time to investgate this problem, I do know the Toshiba G900 had alot of problems with SOD inwhich tosh releases a fix for...... maybe if someone was to look at what that fixed it could help us here? have a read here > www.my900.com
Kaiser won't power back up
My unit after reset won't either power up or down with the power button. Everything still functions.
I found that if I have the power charger connected it works fine, so I thought I had a weak battery. Got a new battery and same thing.
Don't know what's going on, but if you do a soft reset with the charger plugged in, it will reset fine.
Hope someone figures this out!
Be careful overconfiguring...
PhilipL said:
Hi
No problems here either.
It's worth remembering the phone wakes itself up about once an hour, although the display is dark so you will not see this happening.
If you have installed some software that doesn't handle this switching on very well and it crashes the phone, it will look the phone has died in standby, but it probably hasn't, it just looks that way.
I would advise a clean reset and not to install any programs, and see if it happens again. If it does your phone may be faulty, for example a memory problem that surfaces when the phone goes into a low power state.
Regards
Phil
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This might be the case, but I tried calling my phone when it SOD'd and didn't get a ring (it rang on the phone I was calling from.) I bet the problem is installed programs conflicting somehow, maybe kaisertweak will fix it in the future.
I can't guess what causes it tho...
For now, I'm running Kyphur's XDA Live and it has yet to happen.
PocketCM
rotohammer said:
Mine SOD'ed last night. I was using the phone, turned the screen off using the power button, then plugged it into my computer USB to charge. I was trying to do it one-handed and as you could imagine I was fiddling with the cable/phone for 30 seconds before I got the mini-usb plug into the phone. I watched to see the charging light come on but it didn't. I then tried to turn on the phone and realized I was SOD'ed. It only happens to me once every 1-2 weeks. My phone runs the stock Tilt ROM, but with lots of custom cabs installed, ie:
HTC Home 6 button
HTC Taskmanager 2.0 30995
Skype
Color Dot battery indicator
Schaps 10 Button Comm manager
PocketCM
Funambol 6.5.4
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I was running Kypher's Tilt XDA-Live v 1.0 (AWSOME) with several custom cabs including PocketCM and was getting the SOD every time. I wiped the phone and started adding all of my cabs one at a time and all of them are loaded back in except PocketCM and since then i have not seen a single SOD.
Tim
I've noticed that I get the SOD a LOT more when I have bluetooth active. Not sure if that's just coincidental but literally the only time I've noticed the SOD has been when I've had BT enabled.
Happens to me a few times a week very annoying.
Well, I don't do emails, use Windows live, have pocketCM, used my bluetooth, tried Google maps, or have any programs on my sd card (basically whatever you all mentioned above, I don't have or do!), and still get SOD. So I guess I start backtracking. Sigh...
tilt with xda Live
Hello all, I recently purchased an Intermec CN3 running Windows Mobile 5 on the Sprint CDMA network for development purposes and am having a couple of issues. It uses EV-DO Rev A I believe which allows for simultaneous voice/data, just for the record.
The first is the device randomly wakes up and turns on the screen. This morning, when I was in the car, I would push the power button to put the device in sleep mode.. every 15 seconds the screen would pop back on. I do not know if this is due to it trying to grab email, or what. However, now that I am at work, it has not come on in a few minutes. This is all random.
The only idea is that SEVEN, a push email service, is starting data on the device and it is waking up. I tried using a config tool to have data always on and this did not fix the issue. It will wake up even when there is no new email. I also have Battery Pack Pro installed.
My second issue is, when someone calls my phone and the phone is in sleep mode it takes about 5 rings for my phone to even register a call is coming in.. when my phone rings twice, the call goes to voicemail. Is there a way to tweak WM to make this faster?
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
This actually reminds me of the bugs present when we ported WM5 for the Blue Angel (same exact bugs)...
It might seem that you are right on your assumption of the data transfer. Try to disable/disconnect the EVDO connection (put it in Flight mode) and see if the device still wakes up by itself.
As far as the ring delay, you may want to read through this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109
This is a patch that was for both Himalaya and Blue Angel, but should in theory work for other WM5 devices as it seems to be modifications to the registry rather than anything else.
Just so you know, I do not believe that the CN3 is a HTC device, but since your problem was mildly general, you got lucky
Good luck...
Thanks for the reply.
It is certainly not an HTC device however this forum has some of the most knowledgeable people around and figured I'd give it a shot.
As you stated, this is a fairly generic question probably related to software and configuration.
You could try over in the Developers Forum that Intermec just launched. It's at http://community.intermec.com.
Hello All,
With the new 7.5 release, does anyone think it'll be possible to eventually have an app similar to phoneAlarm Pro or even get the simple setting of peak times? I know that the newer 7.x phones are a lot more restrictive than previous WM phones when it comes to what a dev is allowed to do.
Here's the thing, because there isn't (to my knowledge) a way to quiet the phone at night for all notifications except a real phone call, I leave my phone in another room. Bottom line I'd hate to have an emergency call come in at night and miss it because I don't want to keep the phone on the nightstand.
Thank you,
Well oddly enough I was searching for a possible answer today (as my search in XDA forums yesterday didn't show any results), and found this older post concerning notifications. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11432995#post11432995
So it appears the only way to keep the phone active for emergencies and turn off notification on email, sms, etc. is to just turn off cellular and wi-fi. Sorry MS, but this is stupid as hell...
Even with 7.5 windows phone still has the smoothest UI but is behind in important features. Unfortunately seprate notifications must not be a issue with ms
Hello,
I am having strange issues with Motorola ES400 with WM 6.5.3. Sometimes the internal alarm clock starts an hour earlier. Then, when I go to the alarm settings and re-activate the current alarm, it starts again at the correct time. The system is in English, the timezone is GMT+1, Sync to current timezone is selected, regional settings is to Czech.
I tried to set time zone to GMT+0 but after sync with PC it changes back to GMT+1, which is logical, but this shall not be the reason, I guess.
Any suggestions or experience?
i am also having this issue .please help
today it happeden again and I thing it has some relation to the fact that the phone was on the charger during the night. I'm gonna test this.
Hi Guys
I have this issue too, I work for a Moto reseller but even we haven't had much response. I wil definitely share what I get here though as I have some calls logged in now.
Please also get back to the thread with anything you find. This is really frustarting.
Can I ask what SIM cards you're both using and which country you're in?
DaveK