Which is better between MSVC and Cyberon VC - General Topics

I just want to find out from you guys which is better between Microsoft Voice Commander and Cyberon Voice Commander. I have only used MSVC so i cant speak for Cyberon, but I have looked at the interface for cyberon and it looks cheap. So obviously my vote is for MSVC right now. I am curious to try Cyberon but like i said don't know the perks of it.

I guess me and this other guy that voted are the only one's who care about this topic. I guess you can close this if you would like moderator.

Vote! Vote! Vote! I need opinions also please. I can't really tell myself.

Tried both, I like Cyberon Voice Dial
Since it's a voice-driven app, i don't look at it much - I don't care about the GUI. I tried Cyberon Voice commander, and I thought in general the voice recognition was a bit better, and it seemed I more intuitive with the way I issue commands. But that's my voice, my noise environment.
But I found I seldom strayed from my usual path, and that I could backup & copy (transfer) voice commands for Cyberon Voice Dialer. It has a relatively small footprint, and the recognition is the best when you record your own voice, and the commands can be briefer... cryptic, for that matter,
I got a free copy of all the Cyberon stuff. It's out there. Why not try it? I really think it's a matter of preference, which is why no one's answering your post.

I've tried both for me MSVC is my preference, but limited in what it does although once installed it's more or less ready to go.
Cyberon you have to teach and the end result is more tailored to your needs, as Janis said it is free if you look and it is worth trying.

Janis said:
Since it's a voice-driven app, i don't look at it much - I don't care about the GUI. I tried Cyberon Voice commander, and I thought in general the voice recognition was a bit better, and it seemed I more intuitive with the way I issue commands. But that's my voice, my noise environment.
But I found I seldom strayed from my usual path, and that I could backup & copy (transfer) voice commands for Cyberon Voice Dialer. It has a relatively small footprint, and the recognition is the best when you record your own voice, and the commands can be briefer... cryptic, for that matter,
I got a free copy of all the Cyberon stuff. It's out there. Why not try it? I really think it's a matter of preference, which is why no one's answering your post.
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I know this topic is a matter of a opinion and that is exactly what I want, other peoples opinion. I'm kinda wanting to go with a majority rules.

StellaDel said:
I've tried both for me MSVC is my preference, but limited in what it does although once installed it's more or less ready to go.
Cyberon you have to teach and the end result is more tailored to your needs, as Janis said it is free if you look and it is worth trying.
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Cool. Thanks for the input and thank you for taking time to respond. What do you mean by you have to train Cyberon though. I installed Cyberon and it pretty much reacted like MSVC just a lil slower. I thought the training was only for the cyberon voice dial

The version I had didn't understand a word I said, and I consider my English to be reasonable

StellaDel said:
The version I had didn't understand a word I said, and I consider my English to be reasonable
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Yeah that does piss me off sometimes mine does that. I have no clue what causes it either. The I curse at her and she cancels.

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Cyberon Voice Commander 2.0, can it work with Bluetooth??

ok so i tried MS Voice 1.5 and didn't like it at ALL!
then i tried a cab that everyone was recommending as i have been searching the board. that cab is: CyberionVoiceSD_for_WM6_v1.2_build_61226_1_fixed... it worked kinda. however it was old and not what i was looking for.
then i kept searching, desperately not trying to post and ask for 2.0. as to not be yelled at by everyone. however I FOUND IT!! it took a ****load of searching with this new horrible search engine. anyway i love 2.0, its just what i was looking for.
i mapped the activation to my old PTT button. however when i put on bluetooth, the audio still comes from the phone and wants u to talk into the phone speaker. i even have a jabra, single ear a2dp headset so its even more strange the audio still comes from the phone.
i need the be able to map my bluetooth button to activate this program. i also need to use the mic in my BT for the commands.
here the cabs, i prefer Cyberon_VoiceCommander_2.0_913.2 , obviously
From my experience...
Cyberon VC isn't worth the hassle. In the end BT support isn't supported. I've played with, researched and searched to no avail. It is trash. Use MS VC and you'll be much less frustrated. If you did search, you may have found the discussion on this subject more than a couple of times. Either let it go or wear a helmet.... you'll be hitting your head against a wall.
On the search engine comment, you might try google search. It's better, but the problem isn't the search engine so much as it is the entire infrastructure of these forums. They are debating it as we "speak". Really smart people who are passionate about the subject. An unfortunate typical approach to problem solving.
First VC 1.5 is not intended to work with WM6.
If you own a legit copy you can upgrade to 1.6 for $10, otherwise 1.6 will cost you $40 and is well worth the cost.
Closing this thread as this is a question that has been covered again & again.

Why are some roms missing, voice dialing?

so ive been using death rom V2. now im test out others right now i have garmin DK 1.2 on my phone and i noticed it doesn't have my fav feature. on my head set i press a button and say call house. and it calls, no prerecording or training. can i add that feture to any rom? what is name of program i need. or if possible link plz.
thank u
It's Microsoft voice command V1.6.19209 what u are searching for
You can also post your question in the Garmin Rom thread. It may be a Rom issue.
its just not M$ voice command its also Cybertron Voice Dialer that comes with shipped roms depending on which provider releases the rom. Most cooks leave M$VC out of roms because its software you have to pay for and some MOD's do not like when you put it in a rom since its illegal technically but CVC is provided for free so it can be left in the roms.... To those that posted above me please check your facts before posting false info
PS- You can not provide a link to the software since that would be considered WAREZ on this forum... This is a very grey line since some cooks seem to have special rights around here and leave M$VC in the roms they cook and mods say nothing
austinsnyc said:
its just not M$ voice command its also Cybertron Voice Dialer that comes with shipped roms depending on which provider releases the rom. Most cooks leave M$VC out of roms because its software you have to pay for and some MOD's do not like when you put it in a rom since its illegal technically but CVC is provided for free so it can be left in the roms.... To those that posted above me please check your facts before posting false info
PS- You can not provide a link to the software since that would be considered WAREZ on this forum... This is a very grey line since some cooks seem to have special rights around here and leave M$VC in the roms they cook and mods say nothing
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Was not posting "false info", more like incomplete info..
But thx for adding
There are MSVC, Cyberon VC and Cyberon Voice dial. Among Cyberon VC, there are multiple languages (English, Cantonese, Mandarin .... etc)
Therefore, it's a personal preference what the chief would put in (or simply don't put in). I personally dislike MSVC because it's a resource hog and not as good as Cyberon VC for non-native English user.
Austinsync- I respect that you are a valuable member of the forum. As usual, you gave an excellent response to the OP. I do wonder what facts need to be checked. As AcidCool said, his reply was incomplete but not incorrect. Were you referring to my post? In which case, where did I go wrong?
OP- I checked the Rom threads and it looks like the Death Rom has an icon for MS Voice Command but I am not 100% sure. The HTC Voice Dialer was taken out of the Garmin Rom. Since we don't know what it was that you liked in the Death Rom we are at a loss to try and help you find it. Maybe you can give us some more specific information. As far as I know, the HTC Voice Dialer is not warez. I am sure Austinsync will correct me if I have gone astray.
MSVC is not included in all roms because it has not been released on an "official" rom yet. The new AT&T test roms have it included, and since there are several roms using that build they also have it included. Hopefully soon it will be included in a shipped rom, and then it will be available for download as a cab, and much easier to find.
jackleung said:
There are MSVC, Cyberon VC and Cyberon Voice dial. Among Cyberon VC, there are multiple languages (English, Cantonese, Mandarin .... etc)
Therefore, it's a personal preference what the chief would put in (or simply don't put in). I personally dislike MSVC because it's a resource hog and not as good as Cyberon VC for non-native English user.
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U are indeed right about resource hog part.. deinstalled it saves me about 20% memory.. going to try that cyberon VC memory wise

Voice Command sucks so badly..Options?

Cyberon Voice Commander, that came on my TouchPro, sucks so badly.
Not only doesn't it work very well, but the women's voice is so annoying,
I would throw her out of bed!
I liked the older MS Voice Command much better. does anyone know if this progrma works on the TouchPro.
MS Voice Command works great with Touch Pro...AT&T actually includes it with the Fuze.
Joe_PDA said:
Cyberon Voice Commander, that came on my TouchPro, sucks so badly.
Not only doesn't it work very well, but the women's voice is so annoying,
I would throw her out of bed!
I liked the older MS Voice Command much better. does anyone know if this progrma works on the TouchPro.
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http://rs555cg.rapidshare.com/files/141620026/1409235/Microsoft.Voice.Command.v1.6.19213.rar for the cab extracted from that ROM.
Extracting a program from a certain phone that is came with to place it on a phone it didnt originally come with is considering warez.
We all know about warez and links to it on this forum
Forewarning
It is hit or miss with me....goes something like this.
Press button on headset...beep beep
Me: Call George Smith
Phone: Call Bill Smith
Me: Cancel
Phone: Cancel
Me: press button...beep beep
Me: Call George Smith
Phone: Call Jorge Symth?
Me: Cancel
................
20 minutes later
Me: press contacts locate George Smith, hit call.
Sometimes it works perfectly, sometimes, it thinks I can't speak English.
Comical, but that's been my luck with voice dial, "you talk, it types" programs etc...Speech is a strange thing. I'm sure it will get fixed one of these days,
but there are so many variables with speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ
1. Is there any way to completely delete Cyberon Voice Commander from my Touch Pro.
I would like to do this before I load MS Voice Command.
2. DeniaL, I've got a store bought copy of MS Voice Command v. 1.5.
Do you know if this version will run on The Touch Pro?
3. Does MS offer a free upgrade from 1.5 to 1.6?
I think the Voice commander chick is mocking me!
Joe_PDA said:
1. Is there any way to completely delete Cyberon Voice Commander from my Touch Pro.
I would like to do this before I load MS Voice Command.
2. DeniaL, I've got a store bought copy of MS Voice Command v. 1.5.
Do you know if this version will run on The Touch Pro?
3. Does MS offer a free upgrade from 1.5 to 1.6?
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1. there are some custom made ROMs out there w/o this annoying Cyberon thingy - but remove without reflashing: nope. It's burnt into ROM. But after installing MSVC, deleting an existing pairing with your Headset and reconnecting it's quite gone. MSVC has taken over then. More in the guide down below - and even more in the original thread beyond posting 9.
2. I'm not DeniaL, but in former times there was a very VERY fine tutorial for it from bengalih - Definitive Guide for Microsoft Voice Command (MSVC) on the Kaiser/Tilt 2.0 - it's now partially gone as well as bengalih - respectively bengalih has taken his wisdom with him. -- Originally written for Kaiser but works on raphael like a charm (tested). (original article as attachment below)
MSVC 1.5 is intended for use with WM 5.0, it's very outdated and will not work; 1.6 was built for WM 6.x but works with WM5 as well.
3. Do you believe in miracles? - NO i suppose - and so does Microsoft. But PocketGear has an ---> offer for 10 US$
So long and HTH
EDIT: There are different versions:
US-english, UK-english, french, german, ...(even more?).
Since I use the german one I don't know if the two english versions differ in voice synthesis.
p51d007 said:
It is hit or miss with me....goes something like this.
[crappy regognition results]
Me: Cancel
................
20 minutes later
Me: press contacts locate George Smith, hit call.
Sometimes it works perfectly, sometimes, it thinks I can't speak English.
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LOL at the video, that's cool. Well, I'm using Vista's voice recognition casually (Vista Business) and without training I get fairly good results. Maybe 'cos I don't have neither an accent nor a dialect. I think results with my spoken english might differ even it's fair enough tho (no ugly german accent)
Other fine results
But MSVC on Windows Mobile may have some problems b/c english is very colorful: kiwi, aussie, oxford, scottish, canadian, north, east, west, south, middle, west-coast, [...] the individuality is overwhelming and there is no option to train (which is a pretty bummer) but that's why there are UK and US versions: the recognition schemes are different.
But as far as I can say a major problem is: speaking too loud, speaking too slow, speaking in discrete words other than in a flow, eating up the microphone... just hold it 1 ft. or 30cm in front of your face and speak just normally - and have microphone auto-amp off. Very fine results for my part. Maybe with a bit more forté --- and in louder environment just a bit nearer and cover the mic with your finger after your last word is said. (...kay... took me three months to perfectionalize that) AND to make use of more nicknames (typed like the spoken name sounds like; helps a lot!)
Just my five cents, hth and so long

Tellme for wm6.5

hi,
just saw this software that will be available for wm6.5.
its a voice activating software (sent texts, make calls etc with voice commands)
www.tellme.com
i think its a sub company of microsoft making it.
it says its going to be available through wm marketplace for wm6.5 phones, but cant see why it wont run on other wm OS's.
anyone got a beta of the software? or any other info
Nice site.. Lets wait and see how nice the program would be..
How it is different from MS Voice Command ?
bogdatov said:
How it is different from MS Voice Command ?
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you can search the net for items and places with a voice command (eg. starbucks or ipod etc)
u can also write texts and send them using your voice.
i think it is the evolution if the ms voice command software (microsoft trying to interwine software together and changing the name so that it seems like something fresh and new).
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How it is different from MS Voice Command ?
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Read the link it does all that and more.
Are MS ever going to release this then?
TellMe was (I believe) a separate company working on this snazzy voice control software, and I believe MS snatched them up to use as a replacement for MSVC going forward.
"Tellme" is certainly a snappier name than "Microsoft Voice Command." It actually looks like Tellme combines MSVC with the voice controls of the Bing app. I wonder how much overlap there will be.
Tell Me is part of the Samsung Intrepid WM 6.5 ROM. Would be great to be able to install that on my phone. Anyone up for the challenge?
hmmm would really like to install this... any1 with an interprid that would let someone here get the app. dont kno how its done but im sure the smart guys here do
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Tell Me is part of the Samsung Intrepid WM 6.5 ROM. Would be great to be able to install that on my phone. Anyone up for the challenge?
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Ditto.
Would love to get my hands on that cab.
TellMe
Tellme's primary business is in enterprise IVR systems and Voice enabled CRM and such. The TellMe Mobile apps including the WN6.5 client and the BB client as well at the 555-tell all agregate the voice samples collected during use to make the voice recognition part of their software more acurate and reduce the need for programming.
Seems pretty ingenious and gives Tellme a huge chance to be a great voice app unlike some apps that leave me screaming at my phone like some crazed person. While it again dials some completely random number from my phone book.
I hope that this exclusivity for the intrepid is short lived.
mrudzik said:
Tellme's primary business is in enterprise IVR systems and Voice enabled CRM and such. The TellMe Mobile apps including the WN6.5 client and the BB client as well at the 555-tell all agregate the voice samples collected during use to make the voice recognition part of their software more acurate and reduce the need for programming.
Seems pretty ingenious and gives Tellme a huge chance to be a great voice app unlike some apps that leave me screaming at my phone like some crazed person. While it again dials some completely random number from my phone book.
I hope that this exclusivity for the intrepid is short lived.
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So, do you have a link for the cab or not?
Hamidxa said:
So, do you have a link for the cab or not?
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Dont I wish....so for just reading the site abunch goping for someone with access to the right phone.
on a seperate note all these exlusive deals tick me off. They should just post the app in marketplace and be done with it.
All we need is a ROM dump from the interpid, and we should be able to pull it out and create a cab. However, the phone isn't available yet so we will have to wait a bit longer.
Someone with a Samsung Intrepid needs to port it for us.
yes please
You can get it now, well according to their site, however Im in the uk and thus I dont think i will work for me!....
http://www.tellme.com/you/get
How frickin' insulting!!! Right now, on AT&T, T-Mobile & Verizon it's only available on Blackberry devices! And on Sprint, it's all Blackberry except for one WM device - the Intrepid!
WTF, Microsoft?!
Package here.It doesn't understand a touch screen, but it seems to work.
Hey guys, since I'm such a 1337 H4x0r I managed reverse engineer the installer from PPCGeeks to find out where the installer got the .cab from. Well, it paid off and I found the .cab straight from the site, and you can download it from: http://m.tellme.com/windows_mobile/TellmeSamsungIntrepid3515.cab. It still doesn't work on my Rhodium, but I figured I'd post this anyway, so you don't have to go to download from PPCGeeks or if you wanted a .cab file instead of the installer.

Offline voice recognition

Is there an application that is similar to Google's voice actions application, but offline, for when I don't have service?
bikcmp said:
Is there an application that is similar to Google's voice actions application, but offline, for when I don't have service?
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did you find the application? i know there is one, but i cant find it now. been searching for almost an hour! if you find it pls pm me
Voice command was the selling point to me and I was really shocked to know it required internet connection to work..Do I really need internet to say “”hey Galaxy..call wife mobile” ???? This is ridicules GOOGLE.
Such a nice device and very $$$$$ and they screw up like that
Vlingo
Hello girls and boys,
Like you, I was yesterday looking for this frantically as I have just got an Android device as my work mobile and have an old Windows Mobile 6.5 phone (Touch Pro2) as my personal mobile which runs Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and can do quite a bit without needing to touch the handset (illegal whilst driving in the UK). I have to say; I was finding it difficult to believe that with all the awesome power of a Desire S when compared to the TP2, why is it I can't find an offline voice command application? Google's Actions are great yes, but does it REALLY need server side processing for these commands? I then came across a forum where someone suggested Vlingo and no-one really acknowledged the post. What a great app! Totally free, works with bluetooth headsets and actually does speech to text as well WITHOUT needing to be online.
I suggest you guys take a look as it seems to be a great piece of software that's pretty well written. http://www.vlingo.com
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Hello girls and boys,
Like you, I was yesterday looking for this frantically as I have just got an Android device as my work mobile and have an old Windows Mobile 6.5 phone (Touch Pro2) as my personal mobile which runs Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and can do quite a bit without needing to touch the handset (illegal whilst driving in the UK). I have to say; I was finding it difficult to believe that with all the awesome power of a Desire S when compared to the TP2, why is it I can't find an offline voice command application? Google's Actions are great yes, but does it REALLY need server side processing for these commands? I then came across a forum where someone suggested Vlingo and no-one really acknowledged the post. What a great app! Totally free, works with bluetooth headsets and actually does speech to text as well WITHOUT needing to be online.
I suggest you guys take a look as it seems to be a great piece of software that's pretty well written. http://www.vlingo.com
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Thanks bro for your help but unfortunately even vlingo now requires internet connection.
http://swathiep.blogspot.com/2011/02/offline-speech-recognition-with.html
this can work but i dont have linux and a can not complime it.. i believe somebodywill make a apk file and i can install it
Cyberon voice commander
No internet needed, according to this
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cyberon.cvc.AME&hl=en
Also check out: "command this" app
Good luck
Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk
voice commands?
there's an offline speech in the 4seassons rom, that worked ...
but i'm not able to use it in others roms ..no idea what ...
did anyone try it out?
i used to use Cyberon Voice Commander, recorder my voice and i could assign it to open applications or dial friends. its not free though...
VoiceButton works offline
bikcmp said:
Is there an application that is similar to Google's voice actions application, but offline, for when I don't have service?
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You can try my app. It works offline. Application is named VoiceButton. You can find it in GooglePlay.
I think this is what you need.

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