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Hello there!
I was seriously thinking about buying myself one of those Bluetooth stereo headsets. Unfortunately they need the A2DP Profile which isn't included in our present MS BT stack.
I have read a lot in this forum about transferring the Broadcomm/Widcomm stack - a guy even offered 200$ on success. Yet so far no success.
Now I was wondering if it would not be easier to add that profile to the existing stack somehow? By "somehow" I mean that I am not a programmer and havbe no clue how to do so on my own.
Any suggestions or help?
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Hey Guys!
At least a simple "No" or some reply would be nice. I can't imagine that I am the only one who looks for something like that
Well I just tried to find a thread for you over at Howard Forums but was not successful. Go over there there is a poster named "whtrbt7" he seems to know a bit on this subject.
Basically I believe the short answer is no.
I think we are a year or so away from getting true full stereo audio via A2DP Profile.
I'm no expert on this subject, but I believe there needs to be more consistance and control within the BT industry as a whole.
i just posted this link in another thread but maybe its useful to you:
http://www.send2press.com/newswire/2005-03-0311-002.shtml
iWALTZ enables multimedia mobile phones using MS Smartphone(R) and MS Pocket-PC Phone(R)-Edition to stream music over Bluetooth, seamlessly switch between music and voice calls, and display rich media related information on wireless accessories.
"Mobile phones are transforming to be the next generation multimedia devices," said K.Srikrishna, CEO of Impulsesoft. "iWALTZ enables this transformation by delivering an integrated Bluetooth audio experience and significantly reducing time to market for mobile phone OEMs. Impulsesoft is working with multiple mobile phone OEMs to deploy iWALTZ in their products that are launching in the first half of 2005."
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Maybe soon we we are able to get a2dp working on the magicians
Cheers,
Rainer
Cheers for the answer! I hope so too. Just installed the newest Widcomm Soft on my PC in order to give it "More Power" (Tim Allen from Home Improvement). Now I can't wait to make A2DP work somehow on our Magicians. It would be like Star Trek :wink:
Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
WM6.0...
The new look and a lot faster device...
Is there any feature that won't be available with WM6, that did work fine in WM5?
Thanks,
vma
Video call isn't working yet.
Rolud said:
The new look and a lot faster device...
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The way I see it, WM6 may or may not work for you and may or may not do it for you. Try it. You can always go back to WM5. Most people don't.....
Well .... the simple answer is that I did a lot of searching and reading, and finally tried it out for myself.
I asked this very question a while ago right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1130569&postcount=88
And came to the follwowing conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1155497&postcount=89
In the conclusion, the thing about the Bluetooth Stack / Voice Command - it was actually Voice Command that was the problem and this issue was fixed in Jrwightmcps' 2.02.00 WWE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297256
Crossbow ONLY!
Tell you the truth... i see the new WM6 is better eye-catching GUI not to mention the enhancement in the functionality and other usability such as email related functions. I know that MS wont just upgrade for no obvious reason nor for desktop OS compatibility.
Yet i reckon i wont -never- go back to magento! Crossbow ONLY!
@nvatvani:
Indeed your posts where the only ones I read, that contained some usefull info about the subject.
No offense to all the other members of course!
I was simply wondering about what to do when my MDA Pro arrives: replace the German firmware with a WWE WM5 one or go straight ahead to WM6 without even looking at WM5.
Also, I had some problems with my Blue Angel, when I tried WM5 on it: it may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again. The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason. At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty. I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE. I posted this issue in the BA forum, but got no usefull hint. This means I am a little scared of upgrading to unofficial releases.
Other than that, I have no problems with flashing, as I do that on my other hobby (satellite receivers) frequently, including JTAG-operations for repairing bricked devices. The same applies to games consoles. (Note: I do not sell or benefit commercially from that activity and my goal is not to get illegal software or TV - not that you guy's get the wrong idea about me).
Anyway, thanks for your replies!
Cheers,
vma
What Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU 2.0 has and Windows Mobile 6 (the cooked ones, having tried them all) doesn't have, according to my experiences:
1. Videocalling - at least not a proper one
2. Bluetooth Dial Up Networking (the DUN profile)
3. Wireless Modem (yet some WM6 ROM's have it, although without shortcut in the start menu)
4. Cyberon Voice Dial by default (some WM6 ROM's have it by default, others will need a 500kB CAB to activate it)
The reason why I went back to "good old" WM5 is mainly the reliability. Ok, the OS may be a bit slower here and there, but it has all the functionality (e.g. videocalls and Bluetooth DUN), and NEVER hangs. It just always works and that's what I desperately need right now.
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The things Windows Mobile 6 has for me that 5.0 hasn't which I miss the most:
1. High resolution browsing in the normal Internet Explorer (I don't want to use alternatives)
2. HTML email support
3. The impressive speed of the OS
Applications like WM6's Windows Live and the superb Remote Desktop Client are also available for WM5, so I don't need to miss those, otherwise I sure would, and then I might have sticked with WM6.
The new sounds and GUI are great, but I don't really miss them, since that's not a true functional thing.
Having WM5 up and running again, without freezes and memory leaking and with full HTC Universal functionality, is enough for me to be happy with it and to stick with it. If there ever will be a ROM that actually ADDS Windows Mobile 6 on top of all of this (without a single registry tweak or CAB fix needed), then it's the time for me to upgrade again.
If such a ROM will ever see the daylight, since it won't be officially available for the Universal, I don't know. I think the HTC X7500 (Athena) will be there sooner (April 2007 over here), and that one will have a official WM6 upgrade for sure. That'll be my next one, so until then: WM5 for my Universal!
So far for my opinion.
why do I use WM6
vma said:
Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
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To be honest, I used them all and later delteted them after 5 2 hours. They leak a lot, ram is at minimum and useless third party applications, and a lot fo thing sodn't really work or missing (I just want a vanill aone without 3rd party applications).
Except for one rom, Darkforce, it is fast and furious, and so far I have using it for two days; battery usage is good, and no leaks. However, no video calling, and no way to set com ports for bluetooth devices. any1 has this problem?
However, common to all ROMS, no video calling, old calculator, speed dial messed up (some work and some don't), wireless connection bubble missing (yes you can install a cab but I don't want to do that).
<Mind you, contrary to other reports, I never had any freezes with any rom.
The thing that attracts me is HTML in email, High resolution mode in explorer, better remote desktop connectivity.
So I thhink I am sticking with DarkForce ROM, so far so good.
Thx
sorry for new topic here but in these voice speed dials is there one that just finds it in the phone book ala the duo or are they all where u have to program them in, all the ones i have seen u have to program each persons name or whatever in the voice speed dial thing to access em, was looking for something like the duo does and it just finds it when u say a name thats in the contacts, thanks in advance for any help and again sorry for the new topic, but i have searched and searched i may have over looked something looks like what i am asked is, is there way to use voice speed dial without setting up voice tags first?
Voice Commander, either by Cyberion or Microsoft don't require "voice tags". Meaning you have to record something for every name or program you want to use. Try looking them up in the other threads (they are discussed) , but even better - read about them from their respective websites. Solving the bluetooth problem with these are my biggest nightmare. So guess life is good if that's the biggest problem!
Cheers
I searched for this on the forum and couldn't find any helpful threads before anyone complains
What would you guys recommend and more importantly, can it be found relatively easily on the shadier parts of the web? (don't post a link or mention a website, even in a PM)
Please don't ban me Mods, I'm only 14 and I bought my Fuze full price because I didn't have an upgrade so I'm a little short on cash
thers many programs and im sure you can use forced qvga programs for that vga device of yours..like tweaks2k.net brute force vga and such..but the programs are (that i use)
igo8 (horrible imo)
destinator7 (my favorite)
tomtom7
garmin xt (my second favorite because it gives you local ACCURATE gas prices!)
Thank you. I think I am going to go with TomTom 7 as it was the easiest to find and I was getting consistant 1.2mb/s download speeds. It seems to be good enough and gas prices don't really affect me as I'm not supposed to be driving yet anyways
I've been testing AmazeGPS (amazegps.com), an over-the-air voice navigation system that is (legitimately) free. I have to say that I'm quite impressed. Yesterday was the first time that I trusted it to get me someplace that I wasn't completely sure how to get to, and it performed very well. The routing it gave me was different from how I had gone before (the way Google maps sent me), but it was much better -- skipped a lot of traffic and was more direct. Coming back home, it gave me a different routing, which was actually better for that direction than retracing my path would have been. It led me clearly through a couple of confusing intersections with multiple roads converging. Search works really well, too.
The Windows Mobile version is still in beta (it was originally a Java app), so I imagine there will be a few more bells and whistles when it goes GA, but I'm really pleased so far and don't see any need to pay for a GPS package.
I may have to try Amaze, never heard of it before. I still prefer to have all my maps on a storage card though since I travel a lot and am frequently in areas of little or no service.
Not sure what pazookie doesn't like about igo8, it's my current favorite, especially since the maps are by state so you can take only what you need to save space (though that's not a big issue with the huge SDHC).
pazookie said:
thers many programs and im sure you can use forced qvga programs for that vga device of yours..like tweaks2k.net brute force vga and such..but the programs are (that i use)
igo8 (horrible imo)
destinator7 (my favorite)
tomtom7
garmin xt (my second favorite because it gives you local ACCURATE gas prices!)
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where can i get the destinaator7 in english?
wmm said:
I've been testing AmazeGPS (amazegps.com), an over-the-air voice navigation system that is (legitimately) free. I have to say that I'm quite impressed. Yesterday was the first time that I trusted it to get me someplace that I wasn't completely sure how to get to, and it performed very well. The routing it gave me was different from how I had gone before (the way Google maps sent me), but it was much better -- skipped a lot of traffic and was more direct. Coming back home, it gave me a different routing, which was actually better for that direction than retracing my path would have been. It led me clearly through a couple of confusing intersections with multiple roads converging. Search works really well, too.
The Windows Mobile version is still in beta (it was originally a Java app), so I imagine there will be a few more bells and whistles when it goes GA, but I'm really pleased so far and don't see any need to pay for a GPS package.
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What i didnt like was when searching for businesses farther than a 10mile radius. The providers listed are not finding the place i want under "local search"
sammypwns said:
Thank you. I think I am going to go with TomTom 7 as it was the easiest to find and I was getting consistant 1.2mb/s download speeds. It seems to be good enough and gas prices don't really affect me as I'm not supposed to be driving yet anyways
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Ive searched and found that the tomtom7 is free,but most of the download links have been taken down.And also that the maps are not free.
iGo8:
Pros--
-You can get TTS
-Smooth map updates as you're driving
-Good graphics
-NavTeq maps, better than TeleAtlas in the US
-Fast when searching POIs
-All data is stored on memory card, good when hard resetting
-You can use different skins
Cons--
-Slower at getting a fix than Garmin
-No live traffic
-Routing can be a little off compared to Garmin
-ETA has always been off for me, really noticeable on long trips
Garmin Mobile XT:
Pros--
-One of the best/trusted routing engines out there
-Polished and easy interface
-v5 has integrated Google Search for endless POI searches (if you have internet access)
-Live Fuel and traffic
-Just released updated maps, uses Navteq
-ETA is always accurate
Cons--
-No TTS (still tells you when/where to turn, but doesn't say street names)
-Refresh rate is only once per second, not as fluid as iGo
-For local streets, it usually displays CR52 instead of the common street name
TomTom:
-I never really used this program because the latest TeleAtlas maps I could find don't even have my 5 year old subdivision in them.
iGuidance 2009:
-I only played with this a couple days. Not much of an update from v4. SLOW interface compared to the others when moving from screen to screen. Accurate routing and ETA. Has native TTS. Has new, just released Navteq maps.
i have garmin mobile xt, tomtom, and google maps. google maps is great, up to date, free, and you can find everything with it but it sucks for giving directions since its flat 2d and has no voice or automatic directions. i love garmin the most. its very smooth and easy to use. it also gives things like gas prices, flight times, and things like that. the garmin software is actually free, you have to pay for an unlock code to get it to work with the builtin gps unit otherwise it only works with garmin branded units and you have to buy the maps. but its worth it. you can also get it illegally but its such a great piece of software its worth the money. it ends up being cheaper than an actual garmin unit and i prefer my phone to any on the market. tomtom is the one that confuses me. you can get it from so many cabs posted everywhere. i installed it to get footprints working. its kinda ugly and would get a fix for me. i wasnt impressed but its ok because i have garmin and google maps.
I suggest Tomtom Navigator 7. I would prefer it over any just for the fact that I have used it for years without any problems. Unlike my crappy Garmin. Allthough I will say that the garmin did seem a little more friendly, but after using the TomTom systems I've got very used to them.
i like the mixed opinions. people saying opposite things that fit them better and youre being told to find your own option that suits you. helpless community ftw! ^_^
amAzeGPS
I have to agree with the amAzeGPS option. I have been using this piece of free software for the past 3 weeks and I am thoroughly impressed.
Clearly, the main problem is that you require a data connection (the maps are not stored on your device); therefore it's use in a "deadzone" is nill.
I have been led to believe that they are coming out with a version that will enable you to download your route, thus negating the deadzone effects for navigation. I am hopeful that they will also include additional navigation informtion if you take a wrong turn :-0 (but that might be asking too much).
M
amazegps looks pretty good actually for being free. i think you understand the limitations if youre darting towards free software.
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i like the mixed opinions. people saying opposite things that fit them better and youre being told to find your own option that suits you. helpless community ftw! ^_^
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What do you expect? Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to software and preferences. Some people love TomTom and some love Garmin, others hate one or the other.
I tried to give as many pros and cons as I could about the software I've used the most, and that way based on the user's preferences, it'll hopefully help their decision.
For some people, they absolutely need TTS and it is high on their priority list, that really narrows down the options. For others, TTS isn't very important. Some people rank Garmin high because of the Garmin Online features, others feel its a waste because they don't use them.
It all boils down to what you want in a program, what's important to you, and if you ask what's the best one, you're never going to get everyone in agreement. If you ask about 3 programs, I can promise you that each program would get atleast one vote that its the best thing out there.
look if you can't use google search and torrents to find what you need then you don't deserve turn by turn gps and you can use google maps
anyway, in terms of apps, i've always been a fan of tomtom, but only recently acquired garmin xt as tomtom will not work with your radio off.
Amaze looks pretty good, but I haven't had a proper chance to use it. I live in Las Vegas and this place grows literally by the day. So from my perspective there are tons of roads missing and it doesn't even have my neighborhood (2 years old) at all.
Question for those who use garmin:
Do you find V5 to be slower than V4 as far as using the actual program goes?
Which do you think runs smoother?
On my Fuze, Garmin refereshes VERY slow, but it has a nicer interface. For me TomTom has been very reliable, and that is what I use.
samz465 said:
Question for those who use garmin:
Do you find V5 to be slower than V4 as far as using the actual program goes?
Which do you think runs smoother?
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As far as moving around the program? v5 seems just as fast as v4 was for me. As far as the map refreshes, Garmin has always refreshed at about once per second, even in the standalone Nuvi ones.
I'm trying the previously mentioned services this week!
I pay the $10 a month for the AT&T Nav, now I wonder if I have been wasting my cash on it. For the most part it performs well and I use it daily. Sometimes it takes 10+ minutes to find a GPS sat. and that's unacceptable for a paid service. I've heard good things about OnCourse and would like to hear more about it if anybody has experiences.
Google Maps is good if you have time and the skill to stare at the little screen without crashing into a tree.
Don't bother to upgrade to Bing 5.0.11249.0: it is pure bling. They have made the interface "prettier" but took away alot of the functionality. Not only does it not give proper "live" feedback for turn-by-turn directions, a good part of the map is covered by icons that you can't move, especially in landscape mode. Movie and other searches are also far more tedious.
This is definitely a downgrade. But why?! Google has upped the ante on GPS software and it looks like if MS has folded. Come on, guys - get real! Fumbles like this one will surely doom the windows platform!
I unfortunatly agree with you
The graphics face lift is welcome, but everything else is crap.
I agree too.
Me too... One of the best functions of the old version was the ability to SMS the search results to someone... cant do that.
It also shuts off the screen... even if you're in GPS mode. Cannot do long/lat as before, doesnt tell how many sats you're seeing... it is exactly what you guys said... crap.
I thought I had a copy of the latest old build somewhere but I dont... anyone care to help?
Found the old one... "Normality has been restored"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4012497
Because of this things that I like sites that archive old versions. Like OldVersion
Go to m.bing.com and follow the links to the older versions and choose either the WM5 or the WM6 version, not the WM6.1 or 6.5.
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Because of this things that I like sites that archive old versions. Like OldVersion
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Great find!
Thanks!
trudat,
but what do you guys think about the voice recognition?
I think Windows Mobile Marketplace still has the old version. The old version is 4.x, the new is 5.x
I could be mistaken but I think the voice recognition engine is the same in the old version and new version. I didn't have any issues with 4.x voice recognition.
It could also be the fact that 5.x is in beta. I would give MS the benefit of the doubt, they are trying. I would use the Feedback option in Help to give MS some constructive criticism
VR seems to work the same. No major improvements there. I hope this beta will lead to something else more significant, but I'm not holding my breath.
I never really used the voice recognition cause it never really worked too well. I let my fingers do the talking
Que?
On my Kaiser it works fine for a while like for many people, and then suddenly says my Phone isn't supported. WTF? But OK, I too will happily downgrade, as it really doesn't appear to be any better than the previous version. I'd beg to differ with those who say the speech recognition doesn't work though. I find it one of the best things about WLS/Bing. It works absolutely amazingly well. But then you do need to speak clearly. I use it with a BT headset too, great results.
Yeah, despite apparently working fine, it quits automatically on my Kaiser saying it isn't supported. Oh well.
Played around with a bit on a coworker's TP, and it's definitely a mixed bag. It's very nice-looking, and I'm impressed how it integrates Bing's "pic of the day" styling. Really nice-looking.
It is definitely less functional in many ways. The gas price finder never worked for me anyways (prices were never up-to-date and correct around here), but the theatre listings would definitely be missed. Luckily there's other apps for that.
It IS, however, better for web searches. In fact, it's surprisingly useful for web searches, since it seems a little snappier than using bing.com (or google.com, for that matter) in the browser. Hopefully MS tacks some of the better local search functions back on.