hi friends, is it possible? diamond and uni are vga devices, so why arent chefs giving us roms with diamond interface?
thx
sorry for my english
Diamond has 3d drivers (Accelerators), Universal I believe does not...theres tons of changes in both Diamond and Universal. VGA screen itself cant solve everything...tons of changes internally as well .
Lets see what is possible...
We're very unlikely to see a 'full' Diamond implementation for a number of reasons:
1) As rdosti stated, the Diamond has 3D acceleration - this may just be software drivers, or there may be some hardware involved. Even if it's just a good software driver, unless the Uni has the same underlying hardware, we're unlikely to see a port of the drivers. So - manilla (TouchFlo 3D) is very unlikely.
2) The Diamond is an altogether *bigger* machine than the Uni. The specs are just so much higher:
ROM - 256MB vs 128MB
RAM - 192MB vs 64MB
Storage - 4GB vs leftover ROM.
So - there's very little chance we could even see all the Diamond *apps* in a Uni ROM - they won't fit!
That said, if you look in the 'Development and Hacking' forum, the thread shown below is devoted to porting Diamond Apps, and while most work seems to be on converting VGA to QVGA, there's a full OEM and SYS dump in there. It's probably from a BETA release of the ROM, though, since I don't think the Diamond has been on sale (much) yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395400
So - what could we realistically see on the Uni?
The Diamond version of Adobe PDF (already available as OEM package/CAB)
The Diamond YouTube player (maybe - haven't seen much on this).
The Diamond extensions to Outlook (maybe).
HTC Album VGA (Already available as OEM/CAB).
HTC Audio Manager VGA (maybe).
The Diamond Dialler (maybe).
The latest ArcSoft MMS (probably).
Opera 9.5 (Build 1126 is already out there as a CAB for VGA).
Most of the ROM cookers here seem to concentrate on light/fast ROMs, and don't particularly seem to like the HTC applications, so whether or not any of this sees the light of day in a Uni ROM is open to question.
If someone manages to port the underlying drivers and gets TouchFlo 3D working at a decent pace, that would be wonderful, but I for one won't be holding my breath!
-PJC
you need this trash ?
1. this interface slow like hell
2. with crappy functionality
3. with giant memory consuption
maybe we can use the diamond videocall app for wm6.1?
ken0150 said:
maybe we can use the diamond videocall app for wm6.1?
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Yes, may be. Tomal (Ranju) is working on it, more info will be released soon
Win_XP said:
Yes, may be. Tomal (Ranju) is working on it, more info will be released soon
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The Uni and Diamond have different CPUs and Different GPU.
Diamond uses Qualcomm we use XScale.
Not much chance of porting anything without a great deal of pain.
Uni uses also Qualcomm chipset (MSM6250) for 3G video calling, yeah I know that is hard work to be ported, but only told's what Tomal is working on
beast0898 said:
The Uni and Diamond have different CPUs and Different GPU.
Diamond uses Qualcomm we use XScale.
Not much chance of porting anything without a great deal of pain.
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yes, that's the main point.
dialer is working great on uni and functions for video call is visible (at least). but need to be tested under 3g network.
Ok friends! we all know the differences btw uni and diamond, but what I was thinking is get the diamond build OS, some apps compatible, htc home vga, and not diamond drivers... I understood u.. and I think the chefs will give us great roms based on diamonds... without the trash that can make our unis slower and with less free ram...!
thanks bros!
Diamond Interface
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I've been using Jwright's WM6 ROMs and they're terrific. I'd become accustomed to using true VGA in WM5, and while IE offers VGA, it's nothing compared to having the entire system run in 640x480 (96dpi) everywhere.
Has anyone enabled this? I did the registry change, but I don't have WM6 dll's put in for the 96 dpi (using the WM5 dlls would defeat the purpose of using WM6, right?).
If anyone is doing this, lets get some information going on it. If nobody is doing VGA, when do we think we can do this? Or how might I go about helping to make it a reality?
I used ozVGA with WM5 dlls, works fine.
The only purpose of 69-dpi dlls is icons, i suppose...
Is that a possibility? Can the WM5 dlls really be used as replacements here? Or is that like upgrading and then removing 1/2 of the new features?
Are there functional bits in these replaced dlls? Or are they truly icons only?
there is a package i made on the ftp that is allmost complete vga for wm6, it uses wm6 versions from qvga devices
Outstanding! Got a link or filename/path?
Here
Hope it works for you
Would be nice to skip the ozVGA necessity - I like to just have the dlls and set the registry myself... But at least now I've got it. Life is good.
Sweet
I tried these files and they are sweet, thanks
i just used d WM5 dll's & ozVGA. true VGA works as good as when i was on WM5.
nevertheless, i still downloaded Midget's cab file.
hi Midget. tnx 4 that. no need anymore 4 ozVGA w/ that cab file?
Nervous n00b Help?
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there is a package i made on the ftp that is allmost complete vga for wm6, it uses wm6 versions from qvga devices
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My mobile T-mobile AMEO 5 inch screen is wasted without VGA which I had on my Dell Axim x51v. I had previously used www.nyditot.comvirtual Virtual Display with great success in Windows mobile 5 but they are not returning my e-mail about Windows mobile 6 support hence the reason of this question.
What are the benefits of using your cab is there a lower overhead etc than the full blown softwares like MvRTrueVGA or Virtual Display? Is there any risks running VGA apps on PDA’s OS’s?
Any thoughts appreciated
Optical10
Real VGA by Tobias is better. You should try it. It comes with 96dpi and 128 dpi.
found this on a polaris thread can u guys give it a look
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393429
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found this on a polaris thread can u guys give it a look
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All ready dicussed a little here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393320
Windows Mobile 6.1 - CE OS 5.2.19581 from Diamond
[May 19] udK Diamond R0 - WWE (Build 19581.1.1.1)
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udK Diamond R0
Windows Mobile 6.1 - CE OS 5.2.19581 (Build 19581.1.1.1) from Diamond
True 18MB pp
UC v2.0 Compliant
* HTC Home (6tab)
.NET 3.5 Compact Framework
Bluetooth DUN
Office Mobile 2007 + One Note
HTC Camera Album
Enlarge Menu Start
Quick GPS
GPRS Auto Disconnect
RSS Hub
Comm Manager
HSDPA Switch
SIM Bluetooth Access (SAP)
Connection Setup
Large Title Bar
Windows Live Messenger
X-Button
And much more!
Someone tried this?
dumbass question edited out, sorry
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sorry - not familiar with polaris - can it handle 3d alright? i mean does it have proper drivers for its hardware ?
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same msm7200 they found a way to make camera work without lag, read this (they ported a part of newest diamond rom to make it work)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392993&page=14
majaelx said:
same msm7200 they found a way to make camera work without lag, read this (they ported a part of newest diamond rom to make it work)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392993&page=14
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a good friend of mine bought a Touch Cruise couple of days ago... i just wasn't aware its aka Polaris...
Any Updates
well .... it seems that htc didit again, most of the opinions are that is no good, i am wondering now if the ported diamond rom has improvements on camera frames?
does any body knows someting about that
CAN ANYBODY GUYS HELP ???!!! I am looking for htc touch diamond for wizard.
Look Around...do You See Any Diamond For Wizard!!!!geeeez!!!
Don't be ridiculous, this phone cannot supported the nice 3d features(touchflo 3d) from Diamond...Save up some money and buy a tilt or a diamond or be happy with what you have......GOOSH!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew someone was gonna ask this question!!!!
have a nice day
the "Diamond rom will not fit on a wizard. it is too big. also the diamond is made for vga and not qvga(wizard) many of the apps are too difficult to reingeneer to be compatable with qvga, and the wizard's processor and ram will not run it well enough to be stable. Wizard has always been underpowered. maybe why it is probably the best device to test programs on... cause if it runs on a wizard it will probably run on just about anything!.
Alternative is HTC Home Diamond edition. But there ar other shells with a Diamond edition available
The TochFlo 3D is nice on the Diamond but his startup is very slow.
Diamond-like ROM
I can recommend JVDSpank's ROM - [02 Jun] WM 6.1 CE OS.19588 from Diamond - CLEAN *FAST!*
It's very quick and stable, and no-frills - there is no additional stuff. This does of course mean that you have to install all the programs you want (search on the forums!) or learn to cook your own ROM (search on the forums!).
Read the thread I linked to, and decide if this is what you want... It's what I am running at the moment, and I'm in the process of cooking a version containing all the apps I need...
I'll update my signature shortly to reflect this.
has this been ported to the qvga kaiser?
precisely. Will TouchFlo 3d to Kaiser?
No, it doesnt work (yet) even with the new beta direct 3d drivers. I have tried it. There is a qvga version floating around. I tried it with my Tilt with l26 diamond rom and I still only had 3fps.
this should be possible without the drivers since i've seen a plugin called animatedtoday have some nice speeds without a single driver and even when changing tabs on htc home seems pretty quick.this should only be a matter of converting a vga plugin into qvga which can be done since there's software we all use that comes in both resolutions
but I walk about whether it will touchflo 3d Kaiser to be done if the drivers
I do not want plugin, I'd prefer touchflo 3d probably like all
anyone have the manila cab and all the files consisted in it? I'm going to see if i can continue on with getting this interface to be converted to qvga with proper rapid movement. Any advice on where to start and what to use is greatly appreciated and I'll post if I got it to be a bit faster or significantly faster.
Hay all, first time so... be gentle.
So I've just got my grubby mits on the huge and amazing Toshiba TG01, this is the 4.1 inch, snapdragon running competitor to the iphone... I've got it on Orange in the UK (so it's all UK GSM, 3G and HSDPA radios here if it matters for support reasons)
Now the TG01's "stripe" interface looks... well fugly, no two ways about it.
Orange provide their own UI which is inspired by the PS3's I suspect, and it's usable, but does nothing once your deep in winmo 6.1 territory (contact lists etc)
I've tried to get TouchFlo 3D and 2D running on the device (including via throttle launcher) but to no joy....
Does anyone know how This Bugger managed it?
Have any of the truly genius coders here managed it on devices more powerful than HTC's (touchflo2D seem to be other way round) - or can anyone suggest alternative UI's till the winmo 6.5 upgrade roles round?
Cheers!
Raze'
SPB Mobile Shell
Hey mate,
I have a TG01 and I am using SPB Mobile shell, its a shell on top on top of the OS, its about $30 but its head a shoulders above the crappy GUI's that come installed.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
HTH
ninja
razerbug said:
Hay all, first time so... be gentle.
So I've just got my grubby mits on the huge and amazing Toshiba TG01, this is the 4.1 inch, snapdragon running competitor to the iphone... I've got it on Orange in the UK (so it's all UK GSM, 3G and HSDPA radios here if it matters for support reasons)
Now the TG01's "stripe" interface looks... well fugly, no two ways about it.
Orange provide their own UI which is inspired by the PS3's I suspect, and it's usable, but does nothing once your deep in winmo 6.1 territory (contact lists etc)
I've tried to get TouchFlo 3D and 2D running on the device (including via throttle launcher) but to no joy....
Does anyone know how This Bugger managed it?
Have any of the truly genius coders here managed it on devices more powerful than HTC's (touchflo2D seem to be other way round) - or can anyone suggest alternative UI's till the winmo 6.5 upgrade roles round?
Cheers!
Raze'
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"That Bugger" used itje's Blackstone cab to get it on the phone. It says so in the video's comments.
To save you the trouble, you might want to click this link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154
The TG01 will get an official WM6.5 upgrade.
I think the WM6.5 interface is pretty good, even without TouchFlo. So my advice is to just wait for the official WM6.5 upgrade, disable all of Toshiba's interface extensions and enable WM6.5 default home plugin (Titanium).
You can also try alternative interfaces like SPB Mobile Shell, Throttle Launcher, PoinUI etc. and alternative programs like Kinoma Play, Resco Photo Viewer etc.
Hi all, thanks for the advice, in the end I found PointUI and in turn PointSense which near perfectly reproduces the touchflo interface.
but I agree the winmo6.5 will really improve the phone, I belive toshiba planned to release it with 6.5 but MS's stalling meant that didn't happen.
Cheers again.