For all the experts...im finding that there are some clean ATT roms and then you got people like dutty who is using 19588...is there a difference in rom itself ?? Call me a newb but I really wanted to find out because there doesn't seem to be a difference related to speed on the base roms but there might be difference in sip and software...???
also with the new htc diamond are being installed on both but i haven't heard of anyone having issues...
baeshin81 said:
For all the experts...im finding that there are some clean ATT roms and then you got people like dutty who is using 19588...is there a difference in rom itself ?? Call me a newb but I really wanted to find out because there doesn't seem to be a difference related to speed on the base roms but there might be difference in sip and software...???
also with the new htc diamond are being installed on both but i haven't heard of anyone having issues...
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19213 is original WM Kaiser build from HTC, 19588 is original WM Diamond build from HTC
basically it is just updated set of few files in kaiser WM OS build from newer builds of WM OS as these are released to public
gabriel31337 said:
19213 is original WM Kaiser build from HTC, 19588 is original WM Diamond build from HTC
basically it is just updated set of few files in kaiser WM OS build from newer builds of WM OS as these are released to public
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Wow, that's really insightful. You must be a professional developer with years of embeded CE experience. "Some files & stuff."
baeshin81
For all the experts...im finding that there are some clean ATT roms and then you got people like dutty who is using 19588...is there a difference in rom itself ?? Call me a newb but I really wanted to find out because there doesn't seem to be a difference related to speed on the base roms but there might be difference in sip and software...???
also with the new htc diamond are being installed on both but i haven't heard of anyone having issues...
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The difference greatly depends on who the chef is. Some just use the Diamond xip & call their rom a 19588, some have added the XIP + some of the dynamic Libraries, some have added all previously stated + some of the Diamond Apps.
Not all 19588 versions are the same as not all 19213 Versions are the same. You also can't compare them really as the 19588 is not a Kaiser Rom, but parts of it have been ported to be functional on the Kaiser.
There is definitely some speed & functionality differences though. Some of the chefs usign the 19588 have obtained higher bitbit benchmark scores using the Diamond Ported XIP & Libraries. Not that you'll really notice too much, most of the good chefs are working at speeding things up in the milli & microsecond range.
The only thing that really matters though, is how it feels in your hands. Does it feel faster to you, does it allow for the use of the apps you frequently install & use.
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hi guys,
i'm a bit confused, what is currently the best 6.1 rom for the tornado?
thanks!
Good question !
Just check each version and pick the one with the features you need.
Yeah! good question and best answer is check all the roms available here one by one all yourself.
My experience is 6.1 pro by Kamikadze is the best with all taste of PPC but you need some tweaking/mapping hard keys to functions of your prefer.
OK don't trust anybody .. you are the best judge.
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hi guys,
i'm a bit confused, what is currently the best 6.1 rom for the tornado?
thanks!
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For me it WM6.1 Plane Jane Final as long as you install it properly
IMHO at this time WM6.1 Clean 5.2.19202 (Build 19202.1.0.0) Eval is best 6.1 rom.
Why?
-plain and clean, no custom graphics, themes etc.
-no custom apps - everybody have own favourite apps...
-FAST !!
Of course if You don't mind lack of xt9 (beside EN or RU) and a bit troubling controls the best is WM6.1 PRO RC5!!!made by Kamikadze
-PRO!!!
-Tornados fastest rom
Yep, the best ROM should be at least Clean and Fast....
Maybe this is not the place to post this question, but somehow related: which version is the most widely installed in the devices?
mc4ren said:
Maybe this is not the place to post this question, but somehow related: which version is the most widely installed in the devices?
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There really is no way of telling that 'cos you don't know what people have installed. And to be honest, as others have said in this thread, it's all down to personal taste. You have to try them all and see which one suits your needs / or appeals to you. My personal opinion is that WM6 is more stable on the Tornado than WM6.1, although I do like the additional features you get with 6.1... it doesn't cost you anything to try the ROM's, apart from a little time.
One giveaway to the most used, is the ROM's with the most posts
Yeah, you're right. And regardign the WM6.1 Standard Vs. the WM6.1 PRO... how is the balance? The PRO is a bit of a gamble in a Tornado, ins't it? I'd say most people will go the safe way and choose Standard?
pauloslf said:
hi guys,
i'm a bit confused, what is currently the best 6.1 rom for the tornado?
thanks!
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I got my SDA about 10 days ago and wanted to upgrade from WM5 to WM6.
Installed:
1. WM6 English ROM Platinum Edition (Service Pack 1) OS 5.2.1711.18165.0.5.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365023
It's NOT WM6.1 , too many programs I don't need. Seems to have to many buggy menus. Didn't like it.
2. [Release 11Jun08] WM6.1 (not so) Plain Jane - 5.2.19202 (Build 19202.1.0.0) FINAL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406716
This one is 6.1, quite nice, has cool progs. It felt slow and unresponsive and I didn't like home menu and didn't want to bother editing it
3. [Mar 27, 2008] WM6.1 Clean 5.2.19202 (Build 19202.1.0.0) Eval
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375670
The one I use now. Neat and fast. No bugs!
Hi,
I'm almost about to buy the Vox. It comes with WM 6.0, is it wise to flash it to WM6.1?
Wich rom would be the best? Depens on what apps i need?
And is it possible to play gameboy emulators with it?
thanks very much
128MB said:
Hi,
I'm almost about to buy the Vox. It comes with WM 6.0, is it wise to flash it to WM6.1?
Wich rom would be the best? Depens on what apps i need?
And is it possible to play gameboy emulators with it?
thanks very much
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Personally I'm running the Lefab47 Fireburned WM6.1 ROM
12 months in the VOX is still hands down the best phone Ive ever owned.
6.1 is a definate yes - its a big improvement
I would also suggest getting one of the XIP 20202 core roms as this addresses on of my only 2 gripes with the VOX, namely the speed - it was slightly underpowered, however with the new core speed is no longer an issue its greatly improved so my only remaining grip is that the camera could be better - but hey its almost perfect.
DO BUY ONE - they are seriously good
I found pocketGBA, hope this works.
I bought a Kaiser a while back for my gf. I have the touch pro (raphael) with energy rom 3.0. Im looking for something just as stable as that rom for her kaiser. I understand the rule of "flash a ton of roms a try them urself" but this case its a bit different. I dont want to flash a bug ridden ROM (trust me I have done that) and then have her complain for a week until I get the free time to flash another rom (and see her ofcourse). Im looking for a ROM that wont crap out on her, preferably 6.5 with manila 2d and titanium. Thats pretty much all her requirements.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
PS, I have searched and install 3 ROMS with the hotfixes but still have anoying bugs that come out after time.
I wanna find a stable WM 6.5 for my kaiser. btw, how much do u buy ur Kaiser? Is it operator-locked? Thx
unlocked, new on ebay for 160~180 dollars or so, it was about 3 months ago
I think Abusalza's WM6.1 ROM series is worth to try, for example the PDACorner Ultimate X V9
If it must be WM6.5 then may Ultimate X2 v10 will suit her needs.
TPC's ROMs seem a bit faster than Abu's, but I like applications in Abu's ROMs
If you don't mind her not having a lot of the features that make cooked roms better (different dialers, htc customizations, skins, tweaks, etc) then find one of the latest wm 6.5 builds in a light/ultralight rom. install whatever few apps you/she need, and you're done.
In my experience the more complicated the rom, the more likely to find bugs.
you might want to try shifus or gullums mega rom thos are stable enof, atleast for me
You guys are awesome. Thank you. I will first try Ultimate X2 v10, if that screws up im gonna try the naked or ultra light 6.5. Thanks a million.
Just remember you're flashing WM6.5 which isn't official yet that has been ported to a device it was never indended for.
Bugs are going to happen.
Thread Closed.
Ta
Dave
I'd like to try wm6.5 original...somebody has this rom ? I tried a lot of roms but dont work well in based 6.5 ...some phone numbers cant be called , etc Maybe original rom wm 6.5 is good ...Thanks !
there's no WM6.5 original since 6.5 isn't released yet, plus there will neveer be 6.5 for Kaiser official.
The problems you have aren't connected to 6.5 but maybe old radio I guess.
all the rooms are beta versions of wm 6.5. offical final release will be october 2009 but we dont expect offical release for kaiser.
try flashing a different radio version
mirkomircea said:
I'd like to try wm6.5 original...somebody has this rom ? I tried a lot of roms but dont work well in based 6.5 ...some phone numbers cant be called , etc Maybe original rom wm 6.5 is good ...Thanks !
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you should have emailed htc support instead of starting a new thread for this. please read rules about starting new threads.
Where do you live? Who is your service provider? Ah wait, it doesnt matter! Kaiser is too old for them to release an official version anyways...
I thought HTC said they will have an official 6.5 upgrade for any device 400Mhz and above. However, no providers will have an offical upgrade... But technically its the same, because you can just flash the roms found here... They are usually faster than original...
i noticed that htc provided a Hotfix to enhance the security mechanism of Bluetooth service which is dated 2009-07-31 so maybe, just maybe they still might be remembering that the kaiser exists and might provide a wm6.5 rom update
jjblaster3 said:
i noticed that htc provided a Hotfix to enhance the security mechanism of Bluetooth service which is dated 2009-07-31 so maybe, just maybe they still might be remembering that the kaiser exists and might provide a wm6.5 rom update
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HTC doesn't have to license a hot fix from M$. HTC is not about to spend their profits or R&D money licensing software for a phone they don't sell or even make anymore. No chance, no way. Besides, do you really think that Microsoft's 6.5 will be anything more than a waste of time or money ?
Will it run better than the 6.5' s we currently have in this forum ? Will it have more customization options ? Will it have more pre-installed apps ? Will it come with more support ?
No.....no....no.....and no ! So what's the point ?
In the US, AT&T does not see Tilt anymore! Not even refurbished ones...so if they dont sell it, then no updates...
denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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i wish there was some way to modify the nk.exe for 6.5 from other devices which already have it for our kaiser, then there would be no need to recmod and we would also have additional space for more modules
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But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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LOL...yea exactly...
jjblaster3 said:
i wish there was some way to modify the nk.exe for 6.5 from other devices which already have it for our kaiser, then there would be no need to recmod and we would also have additional space for more modules
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Ok it is my understanding that you have recmod to not to use up slot 0...so I think you will have to recmod no matter what...
ai6908 said:
Ok it is my understanding that you have recmod to not to use up slot 0...so I think you will have to recmod no matter what...
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this is what i've read...
"WM 6.5 NK allows you to use more modules without taking up SLOT 0 space, so allows more flexibility to use modules (which are faster to load)"
jjblaster3 said:
this is what i've read...
"WM 6.5 NK allows you to use more modules without taking up SLOT 0 space, so allows more flexibility to use modules (which are faster to load)"
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Yup in theory it sounds wonderful, but I dont think it makes a difference in reality. I do have a touch pro 2, which is the same WM sluggish one!
I came back to STOCK wm 6.1 work perfect...IGO 8 and radio , but on this forum are many fancy people....Thanks them !
denco7 said:
But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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Umm, or like Apple releasing new firmware for the original iPhone, which they don't make anymore... wait a minute.
Microsoft needs to break free of allowing releases of their mobile OS to be dictated by the device OEMs. It's a terrible practice and one of the reasons their market share in the mobile device sector is shrinking.
Yogi76 said:
Umm, or like Apple releasing new firmware for the original iPhone, which they don't make anymore... wait a minute.
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And if M$ only sold ONE phone " the Kaiser " in different variants I am sure they would release 6.5 for it.
WM 6.5 RTM's about two months ago and if you look at Josh koss thread he has a link in his sig that has the official 6.5 RTM release(21234) from MS. However there will be no RTM build for the Kaiser from HTC, but Josh's works fine. This 21234 build was the RTM build that is in the developer toolkit, and will be the build that all companies will use to create there 6.5 official releases.
As for the current 6.5 builds that everyone has those are the beta builds for 6.5.1 that will be released for the first capacitive screens, and be the "basic" WM6.5 that will ship on lower end phones not capable of running WM7.
There are a lot of ROMs for windows mobile 6.5 for asus p320 and im really confused as to which ROM is the most stable and is the most responsive . Im currently running 23085 build and i find it pretty slow on my phone and i want to change it to a more stable and more faster ROM even if it is a little older version . I really hope somebody could point out the most stable and fast ROM as of now.
Thanks...
Will someone commnet here... I am also seaching for the WM 6.5 for my ASUS P320 device ?
Go there:
http://asusmobile.net/board/
if you want to spend some time for translations, go there:
http://asusmobile.ru/board/index.php?c=20
(review of topics may give you some WWE roms there)
imo, you'd better find/make good 6.1 system, than struggle with 6.5.x fails.
Unfortunately, your p320 is worst thing you ever can get from Asus(omap cpu,), and there's no WAY to get heavy, fullblown 6.5.x with its "new" gui working ok enough.
prashanth2009 said:
There are a lot of ROMs for windows mobile 6.5 for asus p320 and im really confused as to which ROM is the most stable and is the most responsive . Im currently running 23085 build and i find it pretty slow on my phone and i want to change it to a more stable and more faster ROM even if it is a little older version . I really hope somebody could point out the most stable and fast ROM as of now.
Thanks...
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Sarvesh.huddedar said:
Will someone commnet here... I am also seaching for the WM 6.5 for my ASUS P320 device ?
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Hi Prashanth and Sarvesh,
I am using WM 6.5 ROM build 23504.5.3.0. My device is 2 years old and i like the performance of the ROM. Its faster than WM6.1, more responsive than WM6.1. In short the performance is much better than WM 6.1. You can try it out on psppc.in.
PS: Do you face a network drop issue in your WM 6.5 ROM?
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Hi Prashanth and Sarvesh,
I am using WM 6.5 ROM build 23504.5.3.0. My device is 2 years old and i like the performance of the ROM. Its faster than WM6.1, more responsive than WM6.1. In short the performance is much better than WM 6.1. You can try it out on psppc.in.
PS: Do you face a network drop issue in your WM 6.5 ROM?
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where can i find it and does it have the imei issue ?