Hi Moderators and Senior Memers and all the lovely people of this forum,
I wish if we can have a glossary page at the Wiki for all the new ppl which can have some commonly used terms or Words defined. like OEM, PIE and others..
Though I am quite old to this forum now, but still i find it difficult many times to decipher a particular term used in the forum by Senior people who at times used very technical term.
if we have a glossary, we can avioid new bees posting same old queries again and again..also this way we can aware ppl here about the product they are using.
please respond to this thread, and tell me if i am asking something extra or if we have a glossary page already, Can someone please send me a link.. i will like that to be a bookmarked page.
Many thanks
Loku
I will go ahead and write one up over the next few days and post it. Hopefully it can be sticked and then merged into the Wiki. Perhaps you can post any questions you have to this thread so they can be answered and included.
Thanks for your input.
Thanks much h4waii,
i specifically interested in understanding the USPL and Kitchen terminologies... though i have flashed my VOX with all the Dr. Gonzo's Rom and all versions of NEO by secable. but i really don't understand those pure technical words you ppl use... Its more like Follow the instruction like bible
Thanks again for finding my post a worth
take care
Loku
Wiki has been slightly updated. Please write any and all questions you have about SPL, kitchen, flashing, ROM/RADIO questions you might have. Aboslutely anything, if you thought of them - other people might have and it can be a great help to them. So don't hold back, ask all the 'silly questions' you can think of!
Nice idea...
don't know if it already exists but also including a F.A.Q wuold not be so bad...including the most usual questions like:
Q:"I was trying to flash the XXX rom and i got Image corruption or whatever is..."
A: Have you flashed your SPL.....?
P:S Maybe we would never say RTFM..but we could say RTW( Read The Wiki) LoL...
@h4waii:
Just for the future, when you add a page to the wiki and want to link to it you don't need the full link, just [Glossary|vox_glossary]! Looks better and is easier. OK now start asking questions (never thought I would ever write this)!
Thanks much members..Give me time this coming sunday.. i'll have my list prepare.
Just to share my VOX would have been just abother phone of mine, had i not discovered this forum. It made me love my phone just too much
thanks all
loku
@frauhottelmann:
Ah, thanks and thank you for changing it.
Once a good amount of questions are put and answered, I will contact a moderator to have the title adjusted and stickied.
@lokeshmudgal:
We await your questions to fill you with knowledge! Teehee.
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Please read through the forum before you post. Your question has probably already been answered.
We now have to wade through countless threads regarding SMS phonebook lookup, where can i get radio 4.16, etc.
I appreciate those who already take a little care.
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Please read through the forum before you post. Your question has probably already been answered.
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This is the key here. If there was an easier way to do this.
My suggestion is start up a FAQ page|post.
With common and upto date news.
Especially the following I believe:
- Latest updates, and where to find or get them (eg ROM)
- SMS problem + patch.
- Un-locking technique (or is this against the rules?)
- hardware problems screen, serial, etc..
You can't stop people posting silly questions, without having the answers easily available.
I spend a lot of time on the madonion site for 3dmark. Yes overclockers and computer destroyers! Newcomers, beginners need to be led. You cannot tell them NO. Never tell somebody no, tell them other things...
Martin
MmF
Hi
Just my 2 pennies worth of comment:
I normally would try a Search for some keywords to get all the posts recently on the topic I am interested in. The search engine is very efficient and it shows you all the posts with that keyword. It can be a little tedious some times to read thru the threads for a topic which has been heavily debated. But the search mechanism is a good point to start for someone interested to get an answer quick as one doesn't have to wait for somebody to answer you especially when the info is already available elsewhere. An FAQ would be a fabulous addition though it would be lots of extra work for the site developer.
This forum is the best support for the xda available in the whole world and we should thank all those who made it possible. As the person with probably the most silly questions it is a great site to get help and I would like to give those guys sweating behind the screen a big thank you !!!
Cheers
Vic
Will do
Sounds fair enough. Thanks for the awesome site!
Was it really necessary to revive a thread that is almost eight years old? Most forums have FAQs and other stickies to help new users find what they need.
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Wasn´t really necessary that you also replied on an old thread?
How can I build my rom ?????? Thanks
muttim86 said:
How can I build my rom ?????? Thanks
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Check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371254
Man ATW,
I thought you broke down & fed him. I like the thread you hit him with though.
muttim86, I don't know if you've noticed, but there is a debate going on about how to deal with the issue of people disregarding the stickies & the wiki & posting questions that are easily found or have been re-posted so many times that everyone is utterly sick of answering them.
Now, depending on how much "Cooking" you want to do, this can be a monumental task for a new guy. Most great chefs have lite roms that you can make your own through customization.
If you feel you're ready to spend lots of time reading though, start here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
There are threads & tools available in the wiki links. Some of the tools are easy to use & self-explanatory, others take a great deal of knowledge.
If you are not familiar with Hex editing & command prompt, or some of the tools you'll find in the wiki, you'll need to do tons & tons of reading or stick with adding onto a base rom.
For a begginer I suggest finding a good solid base rom & building from there. In the very first post of the board you will find all the information you need & there are also references & links to it in the wiki. There are guides for new rom chefs as well.
Now, that said, your post is redundant & innapropriate. Using the search tools of the forum or by visiting the wiki (where you should always start in any forum) you would have avoided cluttering the board being flamed or spanked. You will get answers to any question you ask IF IF your post convey to people that you have searched & read. Otherwise, well I hope you have an asbestos pair of skivvies.
Useless thread. Wish a mod could lock it and move to a boneyard forum.
If you don't know how to search vBulletin forums, use a Wiki, or research it is doubtful you can be expected to make your own ROM.
Agreed! As a week old newbie, I've spent some time just reading the tons of useful info there is here and could have answered his question. Why do people do this?
First and formost, thanks to all the chefs out there, i've crossed over from a crackberry and I'm so glad I did thanks to this forum.
I have one suggestion: As I love to flash new ROMs allllll the time (I'm sure most here are as addicted as I am), I'm having some trouble keeping track of what ROMS are new and which are older but still being discussed.
Please give all your incites on the idea of a STICKY thread made just for for ROM uploading. Then there can be different threads for the discussion of each ROM (issues, fixes, etc...)
This would make it alot easier for everyone to see whats new and compare ROMs.
Please let me know what ou think.
If enough people think it's a good idea then maybe we can make it happen?!
Please vote in the poll above
Thanks again.
I believe we wanted to clear out a lot of the stickies so the page don't get filled up with a whole bunch of stickies. There is a rom page with links, but I don't believe it is being mantained.
Nope, xda make it mandatory that cooks put their meals on the table. By that I mean put the links to their thread in the ROM list thread.
MorKraiser said:
First and formost, thanks to all the chefs out there, i've crossed over from a crackberry and I'm so glad I did thanks to this forum.
I have one suggestion: As I love to flash new ROMs allllll the time (I'm sure most here are as addicted as I am), I'm having some trouble keeping track of what ROMS are new and which are older but still being discussed.
Please give all your incites on the idea of a STICKY thread made just for for ROM uploading. Then there can be different threads for the discussion of each ROM (issues, fixes, etc...)
This would make it alot easier for everyone to see whats new and compare ROMs.
Please let me know what ou think.
If enough people think it's a good idea then maybe we can make it happen?!
Please vote in the poll above
Thanks again.
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Yea, it's in the sticky you missed at the top of this page, where you want this new sticky added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343198
Where it says:
Sticky: All Significant Kaiser Upgrading Links. Start Here!
Just click that link, then look for:
List of Kaiser Rom Threads and Download Links
Pointless and repititive threads make finding ROM releases thread difficult. (period)
IMHO new roms should have two threads each: one for the rom and for the chef or an assistant to post updated specific instructions and bug-fixes and another one for the 200 pages of chatter.
i suggest to do a board read only who only developers can post his rom with every update.
with vbb u can do everything u want. Simply create a group and give permissions to post that board.
for adding to that group they must demostrate they are developing a rom...
for assistence another board where to talk about custom roms.
I believe it's a good idea to have a one point to start flashing and this could be the Wiki section of each device where noobies can read the instructions before starting flashing their devices ... I think this will also reduce many repeated mistakes and questions.
To make it even more clear, maybe our mods should impose a unified form for this section like to include:
Chef name
Cook version
OS version
Build number
Radio version (if included)
Addressed device (ATT, HTC, ...)
Brief about the contents
Bugs/known issues
Download link(s)
a link to the discussion thread
Can we use subforums???
kaiser>
roms>
problems
???
It's more important to me to be able to tell which threads are new and which threads are just updated...
This way we will be able to choose to read our favorite (excisting) threads first and after that look for new started threads so we know about new problems/ideas/ROMs (!!)...
Or the other way around ofcourse...
This forum is what we as a community make of it. Everything can't be heaped upon the back of the Moderators. There are only like 30 or so of us to thousands of registered members.
Members need to step up and help get & keep things organized. Use the Wiki, learn how to and & edit pages there.
When you see crap threads, report them to the Mods instead of inciting a flame-war on a noob.
The bottom line if you aren't part of the solution then you are part of the problem, inaction is just as harmful as negative action.
I actually have a reformat of the Custom ROM wiki page floating around here on my work computer. It's sorted first by OS (6.0 or 6.1) then by Chef, then by date (newest first). I need to see if I can put my hands on it to actually place it up on the wiki. Though it'll require that people actually take the time to add the new ROMs as they come out. Remember, the forum is more than one person...as is the wiki.
I'll try to get to that this afternoon unless someone has a massive issue with it...
New Wiki page is up for Cooked ROMs here. Still needs some work but that should be a good start for better organization and maintainability.
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New Wiki page is up for Cooked ROMs here. Still needs some work but that should be a good start for better organization and maintainability.
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That's some great work jarek91!!! That's the spirit! As stated in other threads, I only care for those who contribute. Whining n00bs should be flamed on first post
jarek91 said:
New Wiki page is up for Cooked ROMs here. Still needs some work but that should be a good start for better organization and maintainability.
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awesome bro! thanks for that!
Cheers
OK, The Mods, seniors and members that develop and discuss their ROMs on here have all gone to a lot of trouble( and time) to write the information required to teach us all how to build our own custom ROMs. They have spent hours and hours setting up the Kaiser Wiki with tutorials that are so simple they could teach a duck to tapdance! So could all who are thinking about building their own ROM please read first........when i say read, i mean read, i have read many posts that repost in half an hour say "read that and it didn't help" . In my experience its impossible to take in all the info needed in half an hour! Obviously if you don't find an answer after 2 weeks then consider asking someone, but 99.9% of answers are already here so it would be very rare you should need to ask. Most of the people here are here to discuss ROM development, not spoonfeed people who can't be bothered to read. This also includes the PM function of this site, just because you don't get the simplistic answer you were looking for in a thread, doesn't mean you can stalk by PM asking all the same questions over and over again.
If after you have read all the info available and took it in and still don't understand.....well maybe you're not capable of being a ROM chef, give up, go back to the Wiki, and download one of the amazing cooked ROMs already posted.
I think i speak for all the chefs on here with the above statement.
Apologies to the mods if this is in the wrong place, equally maybe this could make a good sticky and give all the real developers more time to develop rather than teach!
Nice words. Only thing is stuff like this has been said before, and the people who don't read the Stickies, Wiki's, How To's etc, don't read these threads either.
I made up most of my 1000+ posts explaing stuff I read from this forum to other members who didn't. Don't get me wrong I don't mind helping out with people who have read but are just confused, or have missed bits I have read. It's the people who plainly havn't bothered to read and just ask expecting and answer. Or the people who say I have a problem, tell me how to fix it.
To the noobs: You need to explain your problem so that we can understand, that way we can help you. i.e. I have done x and y, but then I get message m, so I tried z and I still get the message. That sort of thing makes life easy.
Oh well, we can but hope...
Dave
I was wondering if the community could trow together a list, possibly on this post of just Manila 2D roms. I'm a noob and would really like one, I just am having trouble finding all I can get my hands on
majority of them have it.....pdaultimate has it
mcjewpants said:
I was wondering if the community could trow together a list, possibly on this post of just Manila 2D roms. I'm a noob and would really like one, I just am having trouble finding all I can get my hands on
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This thread is redundant. Please take time to read the forum rules and read the first few pages of the forum. Almost every rom has m2d in it!
This is just plain laziness on your part--the mods should close the thread.
Like I had sais I am a noob, maybe I'm just not sure exactly what it is I'm looking for, and manila 2d is just in it everytime. Looking for a minimal rom with the touchflo feature for 6.1 and able to use a custom skin. This still may be a broad description of what I want, but like I said, I'm a noob. I wouldn't have asked if I didn't think I needed to
mcjewpants said:
Like I had sais I am a noob, maybe I'm just not sure exactly what it is I'm looking for, and manila 2d is just in it everytime. Looking for a minimal rom with the touchflo feature for 6.1 and able to use a custom skin. This still may be a broad description of what I want, but like I said, I'm a noob. I wouldn't have asked if I didn't think I needed to
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You don't give yourself enough credit. Being a newbie doesn't mean you have to be lazy, you have the capacity to search and make rational decisions.
search for a Light / Lite rom (both spellings) if you do NOT want M2D, and any of the many ROMs for M2D. Though M2D isn't really considered very "Minimal"
Hello and welcome!
It's advisable when joining a new forum to lurk and read around, especially to get the general 'feel' on the forum society. Each is unique.
You might want to start here (I just joined recently too): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397434
And don't forget the home page of xda-developers.com. From there you can understand that although layman is welcome to post and get help, this site originates from 'hackers and tweakers' of the XDA for discussing the device and the development. Thus the name XDA Developers. You can read more here: http://www.xda-developers.com/ and quoting moderator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3119575&postcount=10
So, it's best to learn by reading a LOT and then only ask questions, if it's not yet asked before ..
anagarika said:
Hello and welcome!
It's advisable when joining a new forum to lurk and read around, especially to get the general 'feel' on the forum society. Each is unique.
You might want to start here (I just joined recently too): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397434
And don't forget the home page of xda-developers.com. From there you can understand that although layman is welcome to post and get help, this site originates from 'hackers and tweakers' of the XDA for discussing the device and the development. Thus the name XDA Developers. You can read more here: http://www.xda-developers.com/ and quoting moderator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3119575&postcount=10
So, it's best to learn by reading a LOT and then only ask questions, if it's not yet asked before ..
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There's nothing left for me to say but...
Closed.
Dave