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Hiya,
Since there is so much floating around on this subject here, I'm wondering if a mod or whomever might be able to get it all in one place for folks like me (formerly) who were about to cry because they couldn't sync?
As my little contribution, allow me to tell you my fix... I had no firewall issue, my drivers were all up to date, everything *should* have been synching correctly, but for one thing...
I needed to enable the DHCP Client service on my computer. Without this being on, the PC can't grab the network ID the device so desperatly wants to provide. Once I got this started, everything syncs like a breeze.
Hopefully this might help somebody out there who's about to pull their hair out. Good luck y'all, and add my name to the list of folks that thinks this site is just the coolest thing. Kickass!
G7
Hey hey
Have any tried to install skype on there Tornado and got it to work?? Or are there any SIP client there can work on a smartphone??
I want to use my Tornado as a IP phone when I'm home!
Kind regards
Jimmi Wolff
it works on my tornado..try this link
http://oregonstate.edu/~keiterk/?p=9
I use some prog for SIP but it's in Russian. Do u need it?
hey
mustafin, the SIP client you have which is in russian, could you please upload it to here so that perhaps someone can work on translating it into english
how does it work? does it allow you to use your sp5 as a voip handset through your existing voip account?
thanx
mustafin said:
I use some prog for SIP but it's in Russian. Do u need it?
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I will be much obliged to you if you can give it to me
Could you please also send it to me [email protected]. I appreciate.
What about the BeWIP client?
Sure, it's in french, but I bet you can use it for any WM smartphone. Do a google search, it's supposed to work on the Tornado.
personally, I've been using SJphone for Pocket PC, but ripped out the needed files and ran it on my SP5m.
It works well, but the interface is awkward since it was designed for a touch screen.
Has anyone found anything that works well and was designed for smartphone?
Download the Skype 2.2 for tornado and it works excellent. No delays or echo found..
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_smart_beta.html
Let me know how it works ?
yeah, I've used it.
I meant SIP so i can bring my existing VoIP provider with me.
I have GoSIP but again it's a french client
I'd give it a shot... I took a little french in high school...
Still looking for sip client for my sp5m. I installed Skype (not sip) and its working great. However, I would like to tap a sip client to our VOIP system we have at wrok.
SJ Labs - Did not releas one yet
All other I saw, are asking you to connect to a pre-define SIP server
Any help/tip is welcome.
sebbes said:
I have GoSIP but again it's a french client
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I tried to get it form their site, but it seems that they want me to download it in stages through SMS (my french is rusty, but that's what it looks like).
Do you have the complete .exe or something that I could try?
Skype works for me
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Skype works for me
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Hey Acsguitar.
I think you're missing the point here...
Sure, you can have skype call a landline for a fee, and even have your own incoming number for another fee... But those of us who already have a regular VoIP-based landline phone number (such as with vonage or broadvoice) can call through their already existing service using their already existing number with the proper SIP compatible softphone.
I am able to take my home number with me when I travel using SJphone, but because it doesn't have a smartphone version, the interface is a bit buggy when you run it. I'm looking for something smoother.
Dishe said:
Hey Acsguitar.
I think you're missing the point here...
Sure, you can have skype call a landline for a fee, and even have your own incoming number for another fee... But those of us who already have a regular VoIP-based landline phone number (such as with vonage or broadvoice) can call through their already existing service using their already existing number with the proper SIP compatible softphone.
I am able to take my home number with me when I travel using SJphone, but because it doesn't have a smartphone version, the interface is a bit buggy when you run it. I'm looking for something smoother.
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Try WengoMobile, I have found it useful thus far.
Got One
Hey Guys
Been using this Software from Peer 2 Phone for a while now and it works fine with my Voiptalk account, only downside is you have to ask them very nicely for it on an individual basis, and then they E-Mail it to you, there website address is: http://www.peer2phone.com/telephony.html
Hope you all have the success that I have with this SIP client, happy Hunting chaps,
Kind Regards Ashe
sion said:
Hey Guys
Been using this Software from Peer 2 Phone for a while now and it works fine with my Voiptalk account, only downside is you have to ask them very nicely for it on an individual basis, and then they E-Mail it to you, there website address is: http://www.peer2phone.com/telephony.html
Hope you all have the success that I have with this SIP client, happy Hunting chaps,
Kind Regards Ashe
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Can you post it?
No!
You have to E-Mail them for the software, I am sorry I respect peoples software rights, I am just a bit ethical that way, however they will not have a problem, in fact they will be more that delighted to send you the software if you E-Mail them,
Kind Regards Ashe
I have seen many messages go by discussing what is the best software for instant messaging. Up until recently, I had been using Agile Messenger. It was quite unstable when I first started using it a couple of years ago, but it is much better now. There is a cost now, which I think is high, but I would be willing to pay. Before buying into Agile though, I felt I should review my other options, and I have run into problems with each. Can anyone either help me get past these problems, or perhaps suggest another solution? Here are the programs I have tried and the problems I have experienced.
Agile Messenger - I have become very happy with the software, but I am not fond of subscriptions. I would much prefer to be able to buy the software outright. I may be able to get over that, but I discovered something else. I like to try the different ROM's that show up on this board and I have noticed that my customer ID in Agile changes with the different ROM's. Does this mean I need to buy a new license each time I change my ROM? I have written email to Agile about this and a couple of other questions and I have never heard back. I am concerned about the lack of support. There are also security questions that have been presented elsewhere on this board about having a middleman handle your connection to the various chat services since the middleman needs to know the username and password to connect.
IM+ - I tried this program, and I like the fact that I can purchase it and be done. I also like that it seems to connect directly to the chat services, thus getting rid of the middleman problem mentioned above. I have been experiencing a problem though where I appear to be online, both from my side, and from the side of my buddies, but messages do not go through. I have also experienced situations where I have successfully sent messages to friends, they replied, but I did not receive the replies. I find this type of unreliability to be intolerable, especially since you can not tell if it is happening. As far as you know, you are sending messages but your friends are not responding when they very well might be. I have tried reinstalling after a hard reset with the same problem.
IMOV - From what I can tell, this is just a XMPP (Jabber, Google..) client. It relies on relays on the Internet to access any other chat system such as AOL, or Yahoo. This introduces the problem with the middleman above, but further, these relays are practically anonymous. At least with Agile, I have some idea (though not a perfect one) who I am entrusting my credentials to. I do not have that with the relays used by XMPP. I guess I could research the available relays and find one I trust, but I am not looking to do that right now.
Verichat - I have not tried this in a while. It is another subscription based system and is a middleman. I guess my thought is that if I am going to pay an ongoing fee AND have a middleman, I would rather have Agile.
Okay, this has gotten to be a long post, but I think it presents my current position. I communicate with users of AOL, Yahoo, Google, and MSN. I can not get all of them to see reason and just all change to IRC or XMPP :-D
I am running this on a Universal (i-Mate Jasjar) with Windows Mobile 5. I am posting in general because I am sure this is a topic that affects many of the XDA phones.
Thanks for any input you can provide.
As far as IRC is concerned, don't forget to check out my IRC-related roundups - I've cross-posted some of the latest ones here in the General forum too.
I have just discovered those. I have given thought to using IRC, but I do not know if I need yet another transport to become dependant on. If I had it all to do over again, I would select IRC and / or XMPP for how open they are and ignore anyone who refused to do the same. (In a perfect world.. )
Octro: Gtalk
There is also Octro which is a Google Chat program that can do chat and VOIP even over a 1x connection (uses the jabber connection).
http://www.octro.com/
It's only for Google right now but the developers have noted that they will add AIM, Y!, MSN, etc later on (it's still in beta).
The VOIP part is really neat. It's not perfect but it is much less resource intensive than Skype and feels more "phone like" when you get an incoming call.
We have an ongoing thread where here at ppcgeeks.com where the developer pops in (they're very good at fixing bugs, adding features, etc.)
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/octro-new-im-client-w-voip-support-1-05-on-1-3-07-t1459.html#12485
The software is free right now but there will be a cost later. For me, this software has the most potential out of all the other programs if only b/c it's being developed now and you the user can help make it better...
Octro looks good..
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
Octro adds AIM, ICQ and MSN
mrdata1701b said:
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
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Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
yea im also looking into some other options since i upgraded my rom. they discontinued verichat so unless you have your old license (if you bought it) its not going to work. im using octro now and it seems to be working fine. i tried installing agile but theyre files are all messed up. any more suggestions?
Not Quite sure how aim is incorporated.
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
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How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
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Menu/Option/Accounts/Legacy Accounts
GoogleTalk must be online
or RTFM
Welcome to this forum
There is a new one that does them all (AIM, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, ICQ, and Jabber) that is currently free and Java based. I quit using IM+ (which I paid for) and am using it exclusively. Currently the beta testing is closed while I think they upgrade their servers, but should open up again shortly I think).
It is supposed to be for the crackberries, but works great on my Dash and K-Jam:
http://www.bbhub.com/2007/01/25/jivetalk-im-beta-available-to-try/
http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/17577-jivetalk_beta_multi_client_im_application.html
-Mc
malatesta said:
Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
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Thanks for this. Haven't heard of them yet. Ima give it a try now. If it's works great and isn't subsciption based like Agile, I'm down...
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
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anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
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You mean Octro? It's working great under WM6 - have been testing it.
I'll publish a big roundup of all these apps in the next 1-2 days - stay tuned
hey anyone know of one that will use http proxy?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com:80/showthread.php?t=294938 for a preview of the article (sorry, it has a typo: Ocrp vs Octro. I'll fix this in the final version.)
I've been using Octro 1.09 on my 8525 on t-mobile. I prefer it to Agile. The voice function works but not very well. Excessive delay and feedback requires use of a headset. I can tether to my laptop and use GTalk and the voice is flawless. I'm hoping they work on the voice feature more. Other than issues with voice Octro is excellent.
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RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
cyberstraz said:
RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
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Then, surely a new version comes really soon.
so nothing that works via http (8080) proxy?
so.. i've mailed HTC about the exchange client not syncing if the exchange server requires a pin code...
ME:
hi, i have a htc magic and im really happy with it. the only thing i cant get to work is the activesync client. which, from what i can read from the net doesnt support exchange servers that requires pin. ive tried to download dataviz roadsync which can handle the exchange sync with no problem, but roadsync cant sync calendars. and i want to be able to use the built in activesync client.. so my questions is: when will you upgrade the activesync client to support the pin (enterprise security?) function??? this is a vital part of my everyday work
HTC:
Dear Fredrik, Thank you for contacting HTC Europe, and thank you for your feedback. As you state in your email the Exchange Server application does not at this moment support pin security. We don't have the information if and when that will be available. I would advice you to state your question to the Android Developer team at developer.android.com to see if they could supply you with more information. (We at HTC are only involved in software development that seams our specific phones to suit the Android OS). If you have any further questions or queries, feel free to get back to us at any time. Kind Regards Dave Montanya HTC Europe
seems to me that they're saying, "we didnt develope the 'activesync' client, go ask google".. but how come this software is only on the htc branded phones? so i replied with:
ME:
hi again, thanks for your answer, but from what i can understand, from what i've read online, the software for syncing with exchange in my HTC branded Magic is developed by you guys at HTC, because you cant find this software on the regular google branded htc Magic phones. best regards fredrik
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HTC:
Thank you for your quick reply. I apologize for my earlier reply, you are indeed correct that HTC develops the inbuilt Exchange Server application (I had to double check this). Unfortunately as for now I can neither confirm or deny whether pin security or certificate support will be supported by a future upgrade or not. The Android OS is a very new OS and I personally believe that the support for the above functionality will be included by future updates (this is my personal opinion and not that of HTC Europe). Kind Regards Dave Montanya HTC Europe
ME:
thanks for the fast response! i hope that it will be implented very soon as stated in my first mail, this is a vital part of my daily work and i dont want to go back to using my old phone can you let me know when you hear anything about the pin security function? Because this is a big issue, practically all the big companys that uses exchange has pin security activated. So im far from alone with this problem thanks again, Fredrik
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HTC:
Thank you for your quick reply, I do understand the importance for you using this. In the meantime, feel free to look for alternative applications such as Roadsync or the other available Exchange Server applications on the market.
If I get any more information within a reasonable time, I will let you know by email.
Kind Regards
Dave Montanya
HTC Europe
i guess thats the end of it
ill uppdate if i ever get that mail from Dave.
Interesting matter! I'm not too interested in exchange support because I use gmail I hope you can tear out some more info
I would rather that they didn't implement any MS-crap as it only serves to propagate the repression. Force people to upgrade to something that isn't proprietary instead.
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I would rather that they didn't implement any MS-crap as it only serves to propagate the repression. Force people to upgrade to something that isn't proprietary instead.
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So you don't want me using the phone then?
My company uses Exchange, so I need that integration...
You think companies will stop using exchange cause people like android?
Hi,
I am wondering why there ain't any working answering machine's for wm yet ? iSecretary was one which I guess is not working in wm6.5. Does anyone else know more about it ? I understand it might be duplicate thread, but since there's no latest posts on any of them I opened up new one hopping to catch eyes of u ppl....
Actually, there is an answering machine. Its awesome too. I got it free from my carrier. If I don't answer my phone after like 4 rings, it picks up and takes a message for me. Then, after it beeps and lets me know theres a message, I push a few buttons and a can listen to them. Then I can delete them, and start all over!
I can't seem to remember what its called though. Hmm....
Maybe someone else can help me with figuring out the name of this?
Wow, never thought about this, this would be really nice. It would be a good way to get voice mails recorded since it would be locally stored and not server stored like voice mail. I'd really like to know if their is one in circulation.
Edit: Apparently it's impossible due to hardware limitations of HTC phones, and seems Gigabyte's phone is the only one that can do it. More information here.
guess the reason for lack of more options is that most operators today offer answering machine at the operator end so it works even if the phone is off
like I mentioned already iSecretary worked fine until wm6.5 even in HTC. I used it in my HTC Fuze with wm 6.1. But it doesn't work in wm6.5. I don't know why. My operator doesn't give such voice message service for free. I am searching for a software like iSecretary that works with wm6.5.
seems nobody is interested in my post ???
Use google voice then, it's free and works when your phone is off. Since your provider doesn't give you voicemail, you should be able to use GV as your voicemail provider - heck, Sprint gives me voicemail for free, but I still have GV setup as my primary voicemail. For free, Sprint has a deal with Google.
you could try YouMail.com, i have it and its free for the basic service which is voicemail. you can customize the voicemail greeting also, its great, i get a laugh everytime....
both YouMail.com and Google Voice doesn't support my country yet. Is there any software that works like answering machine ?
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both YouMail.com and Google Voice doesn't support my country yet. Is there any software that works like answering machine ?
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Ah... yea I guess I take for granted the fact that all these new services seem to always get piloted in the US of A. Sorry... I don't know of anything else :S
Doesn't anybody give interest to make an answering machine like iSecretary ?
I too would like an answer-phone software & I'm surprised HTC never made the most of this issue & resolved the hardware problems & bundled an answer-phone software of it's own.
G-Smart done it back in WM5 times & it was a good tool & marketing niche.