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I have an ATT Tilt purchased almost 10/25/2007. I am running Duttythroy latest ROM, the one from after the crash. I have installed the following software:
Duttythroy HTC Voice Recorder
Silent Service BtIO
TCPMP the Core Pocket Media Player
Resco Today Skin Smile
Resco Today Skin Compact
Resco Today Skin Alfa
Resco Today Plug-in
Resco Registry Add-in
Resco FTP Add-in
Resco Explorer
WedIS FlexWallet 2006 rev5
BCR World Card
Telenav for Windows Mobile
Cingular WAP Media Net Setting
TaurusBulba Tilt keyboard fix
EffComm Today Radio Device Toggle
Aspecto Software WiFiFoFum
Geeks Toolbox.com SiriusWM5
Google Maps
Emunutz HTC Home Customizer
Spb Time
Omega One 1-Calc full
David Andr Batti
HTC HomePlug
HTC HTC Home
Xda-developers HTC Homeplug
The EquinoXe Wizard retouched Dialer
MoDaCo CamerAware
JottoSoft Finger Friendly Friends
I have keep track of my battery usage. And it is miserable.
Yesterday 11/01/2007 @7:16am battery is at 100% by 8:50 pm battery is @ 14% the only thing I had on is Bluetooth.
Today 11/02/2007 @ 9:06am battery is @100% by 9:17pm battery is at 5%.
Both days I had to hit reset twice due to screen freeze that every time led to eventual screen pixilation.
Does anyone know of issues with any of the software I have installed or what is causing the extreme battery drain? Any help will be greatly appreciated, as 12 hour standby time is simply unacceptable.
Might not help, but have you tried Kaiser Tweak?
It is a simple app that will turn off your data connections after they idle along with a couple of battery savers. You might just need to condition your battery a little but don't expect the phone to last more than a few days of normal use (I don't even have bluetooth on all of the time.)
Hi
Bluetooth drains the battery quickly as the device needs to remain fully on (even though the screen is off) in order for Bluetooth to work.
When the device is on then any other applications that like to do things will use processor power as well making matters worse.
Regards
Phil
Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.
At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%
belchie said:
Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.
At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%
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tHATS impressive battery results are you using kaiser tweaks and which one are you using
ya please let us know how youre getting that kind of battery life because at by about 5pm my battery is somewhere around 50%
Also don't let the HTC Home Weather Plug-in automatically update the weather. I had that enabled and saw my battery drain very rapidly.
I think alot has to do with how strong the cell signal is in your area. The stronger it is, the less searching, the searching will kill a battery
jaingram said:
I think alot has to do with how strong the cell signal is in your area. The stronger it is, the less searching, the searching will kill a battery
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Agreed. Problem is the radio is so [email protected] that it really struggles on my home network. I might try another Sim from a different carrier and see if it helps.
Whats your battery Life?
Ok, guys What kind of battery life do you get with bluetooth ACTIVE? You really don't expect me to believe that you only get 12 -13 hours of battery life. My wizard gets 2 1/2 days and that device is 1 1/2 years old. Are you telling me bluetooth tech has gotten worst in a year and a half. Please respond. And belchie Please explain how you manage get such inpressive battery life.
Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.
At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%
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Battery life?
I have to keep it plugged in to appreciate the phone. Data usage, TeleNav, are all battery killers.
One last thing
Even if you aren't connected via data connections, do you have the 3G radio on the phone turned off? Simply having that radio on and available drains the battery like you can't believe. The first day that I had that one, my battery drained like crazy. But turning that off and leaving blue tooth running all day my battery drop is considerably less.
Welcome to 3G.
12 hours battery life is pretty much what I shoot for with an active 3G connection. Where the technology stands today, it simply annilihates battery life.
If you want to see battery life like your wizard, then simple turn off the 3G bands. Your device will have no problem lasting 1-2 days.
As new ROMs keep coming out battery life should continue to improve, but you won't see anything comparable to your wizard unless you turn off the 3G or use a Bandswitch app to deactivate it when not in use.
ME too
I got the same rom and the tilt.....same problem
njmarchetti said:
12 hours battery life is pretty much what I shoot for with an active 3G connection. Where the technology stands today, it simply annilihates battery life.
If you want to see battery life like your wizard, then simple turn off the 3G bands. Your device will have no problem lasting 1-2 days.
As new ROMs keep coming out battery life should continue to improve, but you won't see anything comparable to your wizard unless you turn off the 3G or use a Bandswitch app to deactivate it when not in use.
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I have it turned off 3G with the Comm Manager should I be turning it off some other way. According to the Comm Manager the ONLY thing I have on is bluetooth. I have 3g off, data connection off, MS push off, Beam off, WLAN off. As I said when i turned the bluetooth off I dropped only 2% power but once I turned on the bluetooth within an hour i was down to 83%.
Was the device in sleep mode the entire hour and still drained that much??? If that is the case maybe you have a bad battery, because otherwise you should not see that much power drain.
When I turned 3G off on my 8525 I could easily get 1-1/2 days with bluetooth on. Haven't used much bluetooth since getting the Tilt, however, so maybe there are some power management issues with the bluetooth.
Does turning BT off help your battery drain?
Discarge totally the battery 10 time, and recharge at maximum and more time.
The battery work 3 day, no prob.
Bye
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tHATS impressive battery results are you using kaiser tweaks and which one are you using
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I'm using your Rom: Dutty's Hybrid 10/15/07
Radio: 1.27.12.11
Protocal version: 22.45.88.07H
Plus KaiserTweak (Version 0.4 - October 9, 2007) with all settings as advised.
I'm very impressed with the speed and battery life and am sure there's a big imrpovement on the standard TMobile UK rom replaced.
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If you want to see battery life like your wizard, then simple turn off the 3G bands. Your device will have no problem lasting 1-2 days.
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Not necessarily. EDGE eats up more more battery life for me as it has a very poor signal strength versus the full strength 3G signal I get. I get about two days on 3G (if I can keep it on 3G) and I get maybe 10 hours on Edge...
belchie said:
Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.
At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%
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Have to say, that's pretty close to what I'm getting too. 3G on wit push mail, but other than that, I'm quite pleased with the Kaiser's battery life.
So, I haven't seen this topic talked about yet, apart from manufacturer claims of the usual hundreds of hours of standby.
Having now had the TC for almost a week, I'm not at all happy with the battery life, and hoping it's either a faulty battery or something I'm not doing right.
Today, I've made a 2 or 3 short phone calls and downloaded a few emails, and it's down to 30% at 5pm! Most other days have been the same.
I do have bluetooth and HSDPA on, but not Wi-Fi. Surely, this won't be another case of, "buy this great phone with all the fast connections, but stick to 2G GSM because of the battery life".
Any help gratefully received, as I love the TC apart from this problem.
Data connections come from the "TalkTime" budget, not the "Standby" budget, so if you leave your HDSPA connection connected, or your Bluetooth on, it will drain the battery in about 7 hours.
My tests seem to indicate that HTC's estimates are reasonable within about 85%, if you understand what they're saying. If you leave your phone switched off, doing absolutely nothing in the background ("Standby"), then I've got about 200 hours out if it. But as soon as you start using the phone (which includes switching it on - the increased processor usage and backlight take more power than Standby) the overall battery budget is reduced.
An example - if you spend 1 hour online, you've used 1/7th of your TalkTime budget, but you've also used 1/7th of your Standby budget - the hour of talktime is equivalent to about 30 hours of standby...
It's marketing speak, sadly, but given USB recharging, etc., as long as the phone makes it to a laptop or socket each evening, I'm pretty happy with the battery life on my Touch Cruise - just remember to disconnect data connections when you're not using them, don't check for new mail every 5 minutes and only use IMAP IDLE when you really need it...
I too was first disappointed but I had almost everything that uses data switched on or on automatic like weather and emails.
So I set everything to manual and batt is good with some calls. Before when I tapped on the top bar there was always something connecting or showing connected for a x number of mins. But now it shows 'No data session active' and batt is holding up nicely for all my calls + what I need like GPS etc.
I do put TC on heavy use and I am quite satisfied with the fact that TC makes it through the day.. Most of the PDAs and phones I have used forced me to carry secondary battery with me..
I can only go on my heavy day to day business use with push mail 24h, 20+ calls, few hours of TomTom and bit of forum reading!! But it´s a very big improvement on my Kaiser which would be empty by 7pm. Whereas the Polaris is still around 50-45%
Can anyone tell me how much battery life can one expect for mp3 playback?
christonge said:
I can only go on my heavy day to day business use with push mail 24h, 20+ calls, few hours of TomTom and bit of forum reading!! But it´s a very big improvement on my Kaiser which would be empty by 7pm. Whereas the Polaris is still around 50-45%
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Something's either wrong with my hardware, battery, or config.
Are you in a 3G HSPDA area? I am, and wondering whether or not that's killing the battery.
If it's the battery, I doubt I'll get an exchange, seeing as most places are sold out of TC's still.
Do you use Windows Live? I don't have MSN Messenger running, but I think it syncs all folders on my hotmail every 2 hours.
I don't use Windows Live or the messenger. I'm now using HTC Mail which gives you a free 3 months trial of their Microsoft Exchange Server account. It works really well and seems to use less battery than the Windows Live, which I had previously used.... and most of the time I use the basic "G" (GPRS) connection although when surfing the net I change the connection to 3G.
Hmmm
Thats interesting
Im having a similar problem.
So far, mainly used mine for browsing through wi-fi but the battery drains so quickly. It only lasts a day and a half.
Same usage on my old orbit would last close to a week.
ps - Ive swicthed off all other comm functions
I'd be delighted with a full day! It's such a pain to have to keep plugging it in!
I've now switched off HSPDA, and if that doesn't work, I'll have to switch off 3G. Kind of defeats the object of having a 3G device.
BadTasteUK said:
I'd be delighted with a full day! It's such a pain to have to keep plugging it in!
I've now switched off HSPDA, and if that doesn't work, I'll have to switch off 3G. Kind of defeats the object of having a 3G device.
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3G/HSPDA uses a lot more power than regular GSM. I keep my phone locked to GSM and only enable 3G when I want to go online, but then I primarily use my phone as a PDA so I don't access the network that often, even for voice.
I think there's a utility floating around these boards called something like BandSwitcher that does something to make it easier to toggle between 3G and GSM. As you can probably tell from my vague description (and I'm not even sure that I got the name right), I haven't got round to investigating this fully myself yet.
By the way, there is another thread here about battery life, started by me (what is it with us Brits and our obsession with battery life?), and called "Dissapointing battery life test" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356910&highlight=Julian+battery+life). The thread includes a link to a very useful tool written by Muyz and available here (http://www.vandenmuyzenberg.nl/PowerGuard/) that allows you to look at current drain on the device and I posted some data in that thread from my device so you could run the same tests and see if your current draw is comparable to mine. If you do this then please do post your data.
- Julian
aerokid240 said:
Can anyone tell me how much battery life can one expect for mp3 playback?
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I'm afraid that's a very unhelpful "it depends". It really depends on (a) exactly how you've encoded your MP3 files (bit rate and CBR vs VBR) plus what player you are using to play them.
Having said the above though, I can give you two data points:
1) The Touch Cruise manual claims "Up to 8 hours (WMV). Up to 12 hours (WMA)." (This is on page 249 of the English manual under the power/battery specification.)
2) From measuring current consumption on my device while playing 64kbs AAC HE files I estimate that I'll get somewhere between 9 and 10 hours before I go from 100% charge down to the 10% warning level.
AAC HE is very CPU-intensive to decode. I'm not sure how WMA compares to MP3 regarding CPU intensity but I would expect your figures to be more comparable with the WMA figure quoted by HTC and, in light of my AAC HE real life experience, the HTC figure actually seems quite realistic (although nowhere near good enough in my opinion).
I hope that helps somewhat.
- Julian
My average day.
Off the charger at 6:15AM
Make about 5 to 7 calls each about 5 to 10 minuets
3G HSPDA on with exchange server running always conected
Back light at MAX off after 30 seconds of non use
30 or so text messages
Agile Messanger on all the time conected to AIM and Yahoo. About 2 to 3 comversations each day.
Around 10 to 15 minuets of web surfing to read the news and what not
Bluetooth always on but only used in my car (BMW iDrive) about 1.5 hous of driving
About 20 to 30 minuets of playing S Tris 2 (Yeah I know but I can't help it I love that game)
About 30 to 45 minuets of MP3 playing while at the gym
Ringer set to Vib then ring
Back on the charger by 11:30PM
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My average day.
Off the charger at 6:15AM
Make about 5 to 7 calls each about 5 to 10 minuets
3G HSPDA on with exchange server running always conected
Back light at MAX off after 30 seconds of non use
30 or so text messages
Agile Messanger on all the time conected to AIM and Yahoo. About 2 to 3 comversations each day.
Around 10 to 15 minuets of web surfing to read the news and what not
Bluetooth always on but only used in my car (BMW iDrive) about 1.5 hous of driving
About 20 to 30 minuets of playing S Tris 2 (Yeah I know but I can't help it I love that game)
About 30 to 45 minuets of MP3 playing while at the gym
Ringer set to Vib then ring
Back on the charger by 11:30
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that's 11.30 pm, right?
Fixed post.. And yes
DXL007 said:
My average day.
Off the charger at 6:15AM
Make about 5 to 7 calls each about 5 to 10 minuets
3G HSPDA on with exchange server running always conected
Back light at MAX off after 30 seconds of non use
30 or so text messages
Agile Messanger on all the time conected to AIM and Yahoo. About 2 to 3 comversations each day.
Around 10 to 15 minuets of web surfing to read the news and what not
Bluetooth always on but only used in my car (BMW iDrive) about 1.5 hous of driving
About 20 to 30 minuets of playing S Tris 2 (Yeah I know but I can't help it I love that game)
About 30 to 45 minuets of MP3 playing while at the gym
Ringer set to Vib then ring
Back on the charger by 11:30PM
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That's fantastic, my battery MUST be faulty! Oh, and thanks very much for taking the time to write all that down!
I'll leave it another week or so playing with turning things on and off, and if I can't get a full day, I'll order another battery, and be hardcore about the 16 hour charge for the first three charges.
When it comes to my batteries I am a stickler when it comes to conditioning them. I always do a full discharge and recharge for at least 3 cycles. It may be inconvenient the first few times because you can run out of power in the middle of the day when you really can’t wait for a recharge, but in the long run its worth it. On the weekend when I use my TC the least I get 2 full days out of it.
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When it comes to my batteries I am a stickler when it comes to conditioning them.
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Looks like it's paid off!
I've had my second day now where it's lasted a day! Last night it had 40% on it at 0100, and so far at 1700 it's still on 70%. The reason? I turned off HSDPA on Sat, and it really seems to have made the difference. The internet still runs very fast as well.
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When it comes to my batteries I am a stickler when it comes to conditioning them.
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Hi
Where did you get this info from? I've heard of ppl doing so for NiCd days, but never heard of doing it to LiOn or LiPoly batteries.
Hi all
someone knows, if powering OFF the TC suspends the WIFI-connection
so that it will not discharge the battery?
On my elder HP, I let the WIFI on, switch off the device,
and I couldn't remark a greater change in the battery after one nighgt.
On TC, when switching OFF the unit with WIFI ON,
the battery is empty after one night.
Tanks
St
I don't see anything else on this, so perhaps there's something wrong with my Touch Pro -- I'm only getting ~6 hr battery run time, and that's with only the EDGE radio/email/push mail -- no wi-fi, no blue tooth..... seems very short (actually, makes it unusable for me). My Touch Cruise will go all day, with bluetooth.
I'm open to suggestions.
glad you raised this one - mine did the beep beep to dieat 6am this morinng - charged it up and its already only got one battry bar left!!!
wow, mine is doing all of the above as well as blackberry mail and it keeps its charge for days.
Yea mine is the same way. The battery doesn't last very long at all.
mallman said:
wow, mine is doing all of the above as well as blackberry mail and it keeps its charge for days.
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Days? I find that hard to believe. I reckon if you made no calls at all but left it doing mail only you';d get 2 days at the absolute outside.
Start making calls and stuff and you'r definitely looking at well short of 24hours. I get up between 7 and 8.30am most days and by 22.00 I reckon I'd be looking at having to put it on charge if i've been using the device, making calls etc.
Weird. I have a data connection constantly on, have an exchange sync server and IMAP mail set to poll every hour, and I'm went thru two days with 40% battery remaining. This is with phone calls as well.
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Weird. I have a data connection constantly on, have an exchange sync server and IMAP mail set to poll every hour, and I'm went thru two days with 40% battery remaining. This is with phone calls as well.
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I'm finding these comments of making it through days of use very hard to believe. I'm not saying you're lying or anything but I can assure you that most of us are not experiencing anything of the sort. I knew this full well, the TyTN II was not really that much different (perhaps slightly better but nothing but a knats **** in it).
I take you guys are using the standard supplied battery and not some 2000mAh monster in there?
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Perhaps a comment on the radio bands being used aswell (naturally if you are set to GSM only also).
Long Battery Life
A days useage is what I'm getting at the moment. (ie unplug at 6.20am - start charging at 10pm ish.)
Couple of phone calls, dozen webpages, 2 hours of music, (wired headphones) Activesync running the time.
This is the same as my hermes with the standard battery.
The one thing I will add is that, from my experience, signal strength massively affects battery life. I go to a village in the French countryside once a year, with one cell tower in the middle of the village. The area is very flat, so I get maximum signal everywhere. (I don't go anywhere else.) With Activesync on instant for 14 hours a day and then polling once an hour, 1 phone call a day, plus half a dozen websites a day, I get over three days of useage. (Couldn't believe it at first ) Interestingly, the first year i went with my hermes, I only got 2 days. Several radio upgrades later, I was up to 3 days. (3G is turned off.)
Bottom line, I think we're going to have to wait for improved radio software to help
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Weird. I have a data connection constantly on, have an exchange sync server and IMAP mail set to poll every hour, and I'm went thru two days with 40% battery remaining. This is with phone calls as well.
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Not bad...
My PRO last all the weekend and I didn't do anything special: a few minutes on calls, some text messages, some wireless and GPS! I don't consider bad. Usually, with more use, it lasts 1,5 day
Same problem here.
Disconnected from charger today morning at 7:00
Couple of calls (summary 15min) some callendar entries added, couple of SMS (10 or sth)
No GPS, Wifi enabled just for 2min, all day in 3G field or Edge, 15min of game (solitare afair)
40% of battery at 13:30 :|
ActiveSync was enabled all the time - now it's unloaded permemently (tips provided in other topic on Raphael phorum)
so I'll check if there is any improvement in battery life.
As I mentioned in other topic - for me TP is a typical city phone:
Wake up, disconnect TP from charger and go to work (listen music or browsing the web but if you are planning to use GPS additional car charger is required) then at work you should stay connected to charger or USB. Disconnect your TP and go home (music listening is allowed or even web browsing) but at home dont forget to recharge your TP because out of battery alarm is going to start soon.
Unfortunatelly it's true.
B.
Me too.
Couple of phone calls. (20 min.)
WiFi on, for 15 min.
No 3G enabled.
Charged over night, took it from loader at 7:30, now at 23:00, only 20% left.
Ok, I have S2U2 running, seems to eat battery, but without S2U2 it's not much better.
My Kaiser seems to do much better, I was able to do 2 days without charging.
johanromijn said:
Me too.
Couple of phone calls. (20 min.)
WiFi on, for 15 min.
No 3G enabled.
Charged over night, took it from loader at 7:30, now at 23:00, only 20% left.
Ok, I have S2U2 running, seems to eat battery, but without S2U2 it's not much better.
My Kaiser seems to do much better, I was able to do 2 days without charging.
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How did you disable 3D Jon .. I think it'll be worthwhile me doing this when my device arrives.
thanks
be intresting if someone disables the 3D accelerated interface, thebasic 2D screen dosnt have acceleration so it would be intresting to see ho much, if any, extra juice is needed to make it look pretty
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be intresting if someone disables the 3D accelerated interface, thebasic 2D screen dosnt have acceleration so it would be intresting to see ho much, if any, extra juice is needed to make it look pretty
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I don't use TouchFlo3D, just see my post above.
Not really better battery results.
I always use PocketBreeze and PhoneAlarm on my today screen.
@Mitch92uK
?? 3D? I said 3G.
Do you mean the same as dazza9075?
The first night with the touch pro was alarming - when i went to bed the bat was fully charged, and after 6 hours of standby the battery was almost flat, about 12%
What i did was:
1 - Deactivate activesync with Dotfred's taskmanger by disabling replog.exe notifications (learned from another thread)
2 - Disabled 3G
3 - Disabled autoupdates for RRS Hub + weather progs, etc.
4 - Disabled autostart of Operaprel + rsshub and sddaemon by tweaking the reg.
5 - Cleaned up the startup folder.
Now when i soft reset the device it starts up with only 14 processes and the battery life was greatly improved as i get almost 2 days of autonomy as it was with the Touch Cruise.
Hope this can help you too.
This didn't last long, it happened again. 70 % of battery drained over night...
I thought i had it solved but unfortunately i don't understand what's causing this. It went fine for a couple of days.
In my case i thought there was a process consuming batt while on stand by, but now, i don't know anymore.
hnparedes said:
Not bad...
My PRO last all the weekend and I didn't do anything special: a few minutes on calls, some text messages, some wireless and GPS! I don't consider bad. Usually, with more use, it lasts 1,5 day
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I have exactly the same. And I am a complainer!!
So much better than my TytnII, and now I use 3G all the time, and have Messenger (Agile) switched on frequently.
I installed only ListPro, Ewallet, Coreplayer, Resco and some minor stuff.
I did nothing of the things written here above.
I am really happy with the battery use. In fact it's the first time I am satisfied with a WM device on the issue of battery.
When (of course) heavily playing with it, the first days, I always let it drain till the last warning and fully loaded it during the night. That's the only thing I can say about it.
I use this 3d Flow.
I have my backlight on auto adjust. I had the idea that it drained faster when full blown, but not sure.
So I am quite shocked/amazed about the experiences here. When will it be my turn?
Huib
About 40 phonecalls a day (ring + vibrate) , 50 emails, 10 or so sms, realtime sync with exchange for both email, contacts and planning, 3G on, bluetooth on, two hours paired with bluetooth carkit, wifi on for like 15 minutes, 1 hour of music, screen on auto and some fiddling around with the settings (changing wallpapers and playing teeter . Start at 6.30 am, back on the charger at 11 pm, still 30% battery left.
I consider that as very good compared to my Tytn i used to have.
OK. I'm a week into my TP CDMA by Alltel. I have the GC ROM installed and am not using any of the TouchFlo stuff. I am using SPB/S2U2/Pocketalarm to get a decent setup. I have backed off my email to check once every 10 minutes for one account and only once every 4 hours for the other two.
I have the screen dimmed to almost unviewable, and screen blanks at 10 secs, no BT, no wifi. yet despite that, coming off a full charge this morning having sent 10 texts, checked 2 emails and NO internet NO phone calls. I'm at 62% at 10AM.
By the end of the day with ANY use I'll be dead. I'm coming from a MotoQ that I added the 2100Mah battery which lasted very well but not an option for this phone. Reading that GPS being on may impact the battery but I'm not seeing that the GPS stays on in any way I can determine.
What can I do this is horrible. other tweaks changes? carry another battery? Sucks to thin I'll have to carry a second battery just to make it through the day with minimal use.
Please advise. I like the phone but I just can't justify the abysmal battery life.
Shawn
Im at 94% and I have been using fm radio for 1 1/2 hrs. I think your rom or radio has problems. If other users with same radio and rom dont have the same issue then get your phone replaced.
now at 54% done nothing except 2 more txt.
CDMA use more juice than GSM? (just wondering if comparing apples-apples).
Other CDMA ROMS that people are using with good radio/battery success?
i have the alltel stock rom and my battery is bad to, do the battery tweaks in the wiki help alot? mine isnt as bad as yours i can go to about midnight while sending quite a few texts and a small amount of internet.
You using the latest version of S2U2? I believe anything before 1.40 had a bug that was causing it to drain the battery fast.
Also, look at the S2U2 FAQ at the 8th question:
Q. S2U2 consumes a lot of power?!
A. Make sure there is no music player running in the background.
A. Don't use GIF wallpapers.
A. Don't use a folder of wallpapers.
A. Turn off "Show Appointment".
A. Turn off "Show Weather".
A. Turn on "Don't use Keyboard Hook".
A. Turn on "Ignore screen orientation"
A. If any "auto-rotation" application is installed, please add "S2U2" to it's exception list.
A. Turn on "Safe Mode".
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That's atleast one place to start.
My phone just died too its 3:20PM, I took it off the charger this morning, checked a couple emails, then for the past 2 hours I have been chatting on IRC through DATA not Wifi, and the past hour ive been switching between Opera and zsIRC.... I also used the FM radio recently for about 10 mins to try it out... is this a lot of strain on the battery or should it last longer, I have the AT&T Fuze with stock rom.
Sometimes I think that there are people in this world (including myself) that suck the life out of batteries no matter what the device is.
My battery life was awful until I changed ROMs and radios.
Now. at around 3pm with fairly heavy use (msn on all day starting around 8am, texting, internet use) on any average day I have roughly 50% battery left with the 1500mAh battery from seidio, which is good enough for me.
the only thing is, I never use 3g as I have a euro raphael so I can only use edge.
Aren't you keeping your Data Connection on all day long? Try to do that on an iPhone. I only turn my Data Connection on when needed so the battery will last longer.
I'm with Alltel as well and mine can go about 8-10 hours with 10-15 texts, 10-20 minute calls, 5-10 emails.
Have you turned off auto update on the weather and windows updates. Also turn off location. (If you want GPS, then you need to turn it back on)
well, I have since reflashed to a new ROM and am having a much better response. getting much better battery but i also have the data connection off after 40 secs. I do have gps on but i thought it was only active when called by a program? ROM made biggest difference. still not 100% happy but getting better.
I got my HTC One Mini yesterday and I'm getting pretty good battery life so far, how is it for you guys?
I'm using jmz's Stock Rooted Odex WWE Rom and Jmz M4 Kernel 9-04-13. I unplugged my phone around 9 AM this morning and it's now 1:45 AM and I'm at 48%.
I installed 12 apps, torrented a 315MB file using uTorrent @ about 600 kb/s, watched 23 minutes of 720p video using MX Player with hardware decoding, watched about 15 minutes of YouTube videos, went on Facebook for about 20 minutes, browsed the internet for about 5 minutes, browsed a forum using Tapatalk for about 15 minutes, made about 5 minutes of calls, sent/received about 20 texts, read a manga chapter, used it as a flashlight for about a minute, used it as a remote for XBMC for about 2 hours, flashed a kernel, and took a couple of pictures, a 30 second 1080p video, and a Zoe to test out the Camera. All of this was over Wi-Fi.
I think I could easily get 2 days out of the battery as my typical usage would be lighter. How is the battery life for you and what Rom/Kernal are you using?
Stock UK Vodafone Rom recently updated with the it's package.
Well...I am sadly unimpressed by the battery. I've had mine now for just under a month and don't get a day.
I use it to surf the BBC website (in mobile mode) over 3g and at other tines WiFi.
I make calls about 30-60mins a day and play a version of bubble breaker.
I can literally see the power drain when surfing the web. This us the single most draining activity...much worse than when I used my desire.
I have configured all power save options, disabled all non essential apps, and ensured the phone is not burning background or unnecessary apps.
Still it goes rapidly. It's a shame but I like the phone so will live with it.
2 days...yes if all you do is make calls. Anything more demanding not a chance I'm afraid. I have tried, a lot.
So it is now 1.10pm and I have 52% and at 9 am I had 100%. No video no gaming but a mix of BBC on WiFi and 3g (i have a femtocell so no burning power while looking for a signal).
Nice phone in so many ways but battery life, in call quality and control, are very poor.
All the best,
Sam
I am planning to buy HTC one mini, Wanted to get real idea of battery life, so this was helpful. Could you laso tell me if that 1GB RAM is a problem maybe once you have 60-70 apps ? I thinking of 2 years life at least so was concerned?
zopeon said:
I am planning to buy HTC one mini, Wanted to get real idea of battery life, so this was helpful. Could you laso tell me if that 1GB RAM is a problem maybe once you have 60-70 apps ? I thinking of 2 years life at least so was concerned?
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For me it isn't too much of an issue, but they really should have equipped it with 2 GB of memory, 1 GB has been the standard for about 2 years. I have 42 user apps installed and most of the time I can have multiple apps open without any slow downs. Occasionally if I have multiple heavy apps running (Maps, Facebook, Pandora, Chrome ect.) it can slow down due to the lack of memory, but if I close one it speeds right back up. If you read any reviews you'll hear something along the lines of it's stupid that they only gave this phone 1GB of memory, but for most people it won't be a problem which I agree with. I'd suggest trying it out at a local store before buying it. Different people will see things differently, to some the HTC One Mini and S4 Mini will seem slow compared to the regular One and the S4, to others it will seem very fast.
ok guys please keep in mind that your mobile connection eats your power rly ****ing bad. I did a lot of tests with the mini and i'm was even able to get 5days with 25% left. Camera or wachting videos coast a lot of power as well but music is ok that does not need that much power.
Its all about your connections and how good the signal is, so if you want a longer battery life only use wifi.
The device has smaller screen size, lower resolution, half the number of cores, lower clock speed, lower powered GPU, half the RAM, no NFC or OIS. It should get *better* battery life than the full-sized one all things considered, though the smaller battery will definitely even this out somewhat. I wouldn't be surprised if under typical moderate-high usage involving CPU and screen this device should hold out similarly to the HTC One but in standby, etc it will be a bit lower.
Notebookcheck and GSMArena have done thorough battery testing, though notebookcheck doesn't test standby time and GSMArena's standby time testing method is a bit suspect.
Anandtech haven't published a review of the Mini yet but in their review of the Galaxy Note 3 you can see some battery tests they did of the HTC One Mini and it holds out pretty well considering it's not a phablet.
I bought mine two weeks ago. On the first week, my battery just last 10 hours at least and after a few days of experimentation of various settings and process monitoring, I can last 24 hours with still 20% remaining.
My daily usage can be define as quite conservative as I'm busy at work most of the day.
Here's my activities to give you an idea:
Call - at least 3 minutes a day
SMS - least 20 messages a day
browsing via HSPA / 3G - at least 1 hour a day
browsing via wifi - at least 1 hour a day
playing games - at least 30 minutes a day
reading / composing / sending emails - I set this to manual, at least 5 times a day (when I'm at home)
Frequently Used Apps:
Chrome
stock Calendar
stock Mail
Keep
stock Music Player
Cordy
Twitter
ES Task Manager
ES File Explorer
Google Play
Youtube
System Panel
Disabled Apps:
Facebook
Linkedin
SoundHound
7 Digital
Google Search
Google+
Hangouts
Kid Mode
Maps
Plurk
Hope this can help somebody to have an idea.
No matter what the phone, you tend to see battery life tests showing 8+ hours of web browsing battery life. However, real life never matches up to this expectation, with 3 or 4 hours of web browsing much more typical. This is the case with all smartphones - even a device like the Note 2 or Note 3 (albeit with higher expectations to begin with: - a Note 2/3 may tests 11+ hours web browsing but typically get 4.5+ in real-life conditions).
Unfortunately this leads many to believe that their brand new device (or its battery) is faulty. But in most cases this is not true.
I'll attempt to explain the real reason for the discrepancy.
Most importantly, the battery life tests are exclusively limited to that activity or task. For example, fully charging the smartphone, continuously web browsing for 8+ hours until the phone dies. In reality when we use our phones, the phone will be on standby, or doing other tasks, at other times. For example, 8+ hours of web browsing from a full charge is not the same as getting 8+ hours of web browsing over a 16 hour day. Those other 8 hours, even if the phone are on standby, are going to use up some of your battery, too.
The single biggest battery drain of a device is usually going to be the screen, unless you have specifically forced the screen brightness to a low (<33%) amount. At full brightness, a smartphone may burn through battery after only 3.5 hours of web browsing even if it could last 8+ hours at 40% screen brightness (the brightness control is not usually linear in terms of power draw). Review sites tend to standardise on a particular brightness level that is relatively low (the reason for this is often that allows fair comparison with devices that just can't get as bright). The bottom line is that 8+ hours of screen on time at lowish brightness might drop to half that or lower if you let auto-brightness bring up the brightness during the daylight hours or when outdoors, or if you prefer higher brightnesses.
Often, battery life tests will be done over wifi with mobile phone reception disabled entirely. This is not realistic as with a smartphone you're usually connected to a cell tower even while you're using wifi, so that voice calls and texts can still come through. Also, cellular uses a lot more energy while idle than wifi does. So even if you set the brightness really low and do nothing else with the phone, you still shouldn't be surprised that you can't get 8+ hours of web browsing if you also have the phone connected to a cell tower in the background. Some sites will conduct battery life tests over the cellular network instead of wifi, and typically these will get much lower battery life ratings (eg. 4+ hours, even with the same brightness level as for the wifi test).
Bottom line is, don't head back to the shop if you only get 3 to 4 hours screen on time during the day with web browsing. This is entirely normal for *some* usage patterns. You can improve it by:
Disable auto-brightness and set the brightness to a low-ish value, say 30%-40% of maximum. This might be able to double your screen-on time compared to full brightness.
Avoid using the phone much in direct sunlight. For the brightness to be high enough to read in direct sunlight, you'll be burning through your battery quickly, and if you've set the brightness manually to a low level as advised above, you won't be able to read it in direct sunlight.
Connect to wifi (but of course, only if you trust the wifi network to be secure and respect your privacy).
Realise that if you ever play CPU- or GPU-intensive games (most casual games shouldn't fit in this category) then a beefier battery or external battery booster may be a good investment. There's not much you can do about their battery use.
Only after considering the above should you hunt through battery usage analysers and wakelock detectors. In many cases even a misbehaving wakelock that keeps your phone partially awake all day has a low impact compared to having the screen on full brightness for just 20 or 30 minutes.