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Battery life for Polaris

Hi,
How long does it last for you guys? It has been less than a day for me. Is there something wrong?? If I have MSN through HSDPA on then it'll die out in like mid-day.
Is there a way to extend the battery life?

taiwanese said:
Hi,
How long does it last for you guys? It has been less than a day for me. Is there something wrong?? If I have MSN through HSDPA on then it'll die out in like mid-day.
Is there a way to extend the battery life?
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Usually if i run skype / otroralk (for gtalk) + listening mp3 it stands about a day.

Same here. It usually lasts about a day for me too. That's when I'm using Wifi and listening to MP3s.

HSDPA consumes a lot of power, in the 200-300mA range. Considering the Polaris battery has a capacity of 1300mAh, if you stay connected to HSDPA all the time with screen lit you will get something like 5-6 hours battery life, and my personal experience confirms that.
Just don't keep your data connection open all the time, or disable HSDPA. EDGE consumes half as much power, plain GSM something like one tenth.

Thanks guys,
This is really sucks...in terms of battery life

Seems to me that there 2 unavoidable givens with thiis device, despite the best efforts of those on this forum now and in the future:
1. its slow
2. battery life is poor
Cruel but true?
I simultaneously run TomTom for navigation, run.gps for route tracking (TT is using GPS so figure I may as well make good use of it!) and coreplayer for music (through earphones) with the pda on screen lock while on my motorbike and get just c. 4-5 hours Obviously would like more. How much power does the GSM/GPRS signal use? Any significant advantage in power use in turning phone off (can't answer it while on bike anyway!)?

Today, from 100%:
40 minutes of FM radio playing on way to work
Wrote several emails and texts during the day
Used gmaps with gps for about 1/2 hour at lunch
Refreshed RSS on Egress to read on the loo (including Engadget and Daily WTF - lots of images)).
3 hours mp3 at gym/on way home
a few texts and 2 mms this evening
About 1hrs worth of calls this evening
Now, 22:00, battery at 60%. That was a busy day for me - a normal day - constant exchange sync, 1hr mp3/radio and 1/2 texts - battery would still be at 80-90%.
I'd say that's quite impressive. Compared to my old Hermes it's amezin' (a la Scott Mills).
Admittedly, this is Edge network on 02. With my T-mobile sim with HSDPA on it wouldn't be nearly as good.

Hi nahguam,
I noticed when using HSDPA...it really heats up and takes double the battery life out of it.
How did you link up google map with your gps? Google map can't seem to find my gps for me.

I'm using AT&T's 3G network 95% of my day and I have been happy with the battery life. I have been keeping my screen brightness about the third lowest setting. I have my email checking often and I use the WMP about 45-60 minutes a day.
I came from an Atom Life and E10 X800 and had to plug them in very often, so the Touch Cruise has a great battery life in my opinion.

taiwanese said:
Hi nahguam,
I noticed when using HSDPA...it really heats up and takes double the battery life out of it.
How did you link up google map with your gps? Google map can't seem to find my gps for me.
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Yea, if I'm Internet Sharing with HSDPA it get's really hot.
For gmaps with GPS I have left gmaps settings as "Set by Windows"
In Start > Settings > System tab : External GPS, I have these settings:
Programs tab : COM4
Hardware tab : (None) , baud rate: 4800
Access: Manage GPS automatically is checked.

Battery Life seems very short

I don't see anything else on this, so perhaps there's something wrong with my Touch Pro -- I'm only getting ~6 hr battery run time, and that's with only the EDGE radio/email/push mail -- no wi-fi, no blue tooth..... seems very short (actually, makes it unusable for me). My Touch Cruise will go all day, with bluetooth.
I'm open to suggestions.

glad you raised this one - mine did the beep beep to dieat 6am this morinng - charged it up and its already only got one battry bar left!!!

wow, mine is doing all of the above as well as blackberry mail and it keeps its charge for days.

Yea mine is the same way. The battery doesn't last very long at all.

mallman said:
wow, mine is doing all of the above as well as blackberry mail and it keeps its charge for days.
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Days? I find that hard to believe. I reckon if you made no calls at all but left it doing mail only you';d get 2 days at the absolute outside.
Start making calls and stuff and you'r definitely looking at well short of 24hours. I get up between 7 and 8.30am most days and by 22.00 I reckon I'd be looking at having to put it on charge if i've been using the device, making calls etc.

Weird. I have a data connection constantly on, have an exchange sync server and IMAP mail set to poll every hour, and I'm went thru two days with 40% battery remaining. This is with phone calls as well.

adityasen said:
Weird. I have a data connection constantly on, have an exchange sync server and IMAP mail set to poll every hour, and I'm went thru two days with 40% battery remaining. This is with phone calls as well.
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I'm finding these comments of making it through days of use very hard to believe. I'm not saying you're lying or anything but I can assure you that most of us are not experiencing anything of the sort. I knew this full well, the TyTN II was not really that much different (perhaps slightly better but nothing but a knats **** in it).
I take you guys are using the standard supplied battery and not some 2000mAh monster in there?

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Perhaps a comment on the radio bands being used aswell (naturally if you are set to GSM only also).

Long Battery Life
A days useage is what I'm getting at the moment. (ie unplug at 6.20am - start charging at 10pm ish.)
Couple of phone calls, dozen webpages, 2 hours of music, (wired headphones) Activesync running the time.
This is the same as my hermes with the standard battery.
The one thing I will add is that, from my experience, signal strength massively affects battery life. I go to a village in the French countryside once a year, with one cell tower in the middle of the village. The area is very flat, so I get maximum signal everywhere. (I don't go anywhere else.) With Activesync on instant for 14 hours a day and then polling once an hour, 1 phone call a day, plus half a dozen websites a day, I get over three days of useage. (Couldn't believe it at first ) Interestingly, the first year i went with my hermes, I only got 2 days. Several radio upgrades later, I was up to 3 days. (3G is turned off.)
Bottom line, I think we're going to have to wait for improved radio software to help

adityasen said:
Weird. I have a data connection constantly on, have an exchange sync server and IMAP mail set to poll every hour, and I'm went thru two days with 40% battery remaining. This is with phone calls as well.
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Not bad...
My PRO last all the weekend and I didn't do anything special: a few minutes on calls, some text messages, some wireless and GPS! I don't consider bad. Usually, with more use, it lasts 1,5 day

Same problem here.
Disconnected from charger today morning at 7:00
Couple of calls (summary 15min) some callendar entries added, couple of SMS (10 or sth)
No GPS, Wifi enabled just for 2min, all day in 3G field or Edge, 15min of game (solitare afair)
40% of battery at 13:30 :|
ActiveSync was enabled all the time - now it's unloaded permemently (tips provided in other topic on Raphael phorum)
so I'll check if there is any improvement in battery life.
As I mentioned in other topic - for me TP is a typical city phone:
Wake up, disconnect TP from charger and go to work (listen music or browsing the web but if you are planning to use GPS additional car charger is required) then at work you should stay connected to charger or USB. Disconnect your TP and go home (music listening is allowed or even web browsing) but at home dont forget to recharge your TP because out of battery alarm is going to start soon.
Unfortunatelly it's true.
B.

Me too.
Couple of phone calls. (20 min.)
WiFi on, for 15 min.
No 3G enabled.
Charged over night, took it from loader at 7:30, now at 23:00, only 20% left.
Ok, I have S2U2 running, seems to eat battery, but without S2U2 it's not much better.
My Kaiser seems to do much better, I was able to do 2 days without charging.

johanromijn said:
Me too.
Couple of phone calls. (20 min.)
WiFi on, for 15 min.
No 3G enabled.
Charged over night, took it from loader at 7:30, now at 23:00, only 20% left.
Ok, I have S2U2 running, seems to eat battery, but without S2U2 it's not much better.
My Kaiser seems to do much better, I was able to do 2 days without charging.
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How did you disable 3D Jon .. I think it'll be worthwhile me doing this when my device arrives.
thanks

be intresting if someone disables the 3D accelerated interface, thebasic 2D screen dosnt have acceleration so it would be intresting to see ho much, if any, extra juice is needed to make it look pretty

dazza9075 said:
be intresting if someone disables the 3D accelerated interface, thebasic 2D screen dosnt have acceleration so it would be intresting to see ho much, if any, extra juice is needed to make it look pretty
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I don't use TouchFlo3D, just see my post above.
Not really better battery results.
I always use PocketBreeze and PhoneAlarm on my today screen.
@Mitch92uK
?? 3D? I said 3G.
Do you mean the same as dazza9075?

The first night with the touch pro was alarming - when i went to bed the bat was fully charged, and after 6 hours of standby the battery was almost flat, about 12%
What i did was:
1 - Deactivate activesync with Dotfred's taskmanger by disabling replog.exe notifications (learned from another thread)
2 - Disabled 3G
3 - Disabled autoupdates for RRS Hub + weather progs, etc.
4 - Disabled autostart of Operaprel + rsshub and sddaemon by tweaking the reg.
5 - Cleaned up the startup folder.
Now when i soft reset the device it starts up with only 14 processes and the battery life was greatly improved as i get almost 2 days of autonomy as it was with the Touch Cruise.
Hope this can help you too.

This didn't last long, it happened again. 70 % of battery drained over night...
I thought i had it solved but unfortunately i don't understand what's causing this. It went fine for a couple of days.
In my case i thought there was a process consuming batt while on stand by, but now, i don't know anymore.

hnparedes said:
Not bad...
My PRO last all the weekend and I didn't do anything special: a few minutes on calls, some text messages, some wireless and GPS! I don't consider bad. Usually, with more use, it lasts 1,5 day
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I have exactly the same. And I am a complainer!!
So much better than my TytnII, and now I use 3G all the time, and have Messenger (Agile) switched on frequently.
I installed only ListPro, Ewallet, Coreplayer, Resco and some minor stuff.
I did nothing of the things written here above.
I am really happy with the battery use. In fact it's the first time I am satisfied with a WM device on the issue of battery.
When (of course) heavily playing with it, the first days, I always let it drain till the last warning and fully loaded it during the night. That's the only thing I can say about it.
I use this 3d Flow.
I have my backlight on auto adjust. I had the idea that it drained faster when full blown, but not sure.
So I am quite shocked/amazed about the experiences here. When will it be my turn?
Huib

About 40 phonecalls a day (ring + vibrate) , 50 emails, 10 or so sms, realtime sync with exchange for both email, contacts and planning, 3G on, bluetooth on, two hours paired with bluetooth carkit, wifi on for like 15 minutes, 1 hour of music, screen on auto and some fiddling around with the settings (changing wallpapers and playing teeter . Start at 6.30 am, back on the charger at 11 pm, still 30% battery left.
I consider that as very good compared to my Tytn i used to have.

Another my battery sucks thread!!

OK. I'm a week into my TP CDMA by Alltel. I have the GC ROM installed and am not using any of the TouchFlo stuff. I am using SPB/S2U2/Pocketalarm to get a decent setup. I have backed off my email to check once every 10 minutes for one account and only once every 4 hours for the other two.
I have the screen dimmed to almost unviewable, and screen blanks at 10 secs, no BT, no wifi. yet despite that, coming off a full charge this morning having sent 10 texts, checked 2 emails and NO internet NO phone calls. I'm at 62% at 10AM.
By the end of the day with ANY use I'll be dead. I'm coming from a MotoQ that I added the 2100Mah battery which lasted very well but not an option for this phone. Reading that GPS being on may impact the battery but I'm not seeing that the GPS stays on in any way I can determine.
What can I do this is horrible. other tweaks changes? carry another battery? Sucks to thin I'll have to carry a second battery just to make it through the day with minimal use.
Please advise. I like the phone but I just can't justify the abysmal battery life.
Shawn

Im at 94% and I have been using fm radio for 1 1/2 hrs. I think your rom or radio has problems. If other users with same radio and rom dont have the same issue then get your phone replaced.

now at 54% done nothing except 2 more txt.
CDMA use more juice than GSM? (just wondering if comparing apples-apples).
Other CDMA ROMS that people are using with good radio/battery success?

i have the alltel stock rom and my battery is bad to, do the battery tweaks in the wiki help alot? mine isnt as bad as yours i can go to about midnight while sending quite a few texts and a small amount of internet.

You using the latest version of S2U2? I believe anything before 1.40 had a bug that was causing it to drain the battery fast.
Also, look at the S2U2 FAQ at the 8th question:
Q. S2U2 consumes a lot of power?!
A. Make sure there is no music player running in the background.
A. Don't use GIF wallpapers.
A. Don't use a folder of wallpapers.
A. Turn off "Show Appointment".
A. Turn off "Show Weather".
A. Turn on "Don't use Keyboard Hook".
A. Turn on "Ignore screen orientation"
A. If any "auto-rotation" application is installed, please add "S2U2" to it's exception list.
A. Turn on "Safe Mode".
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That's atleast one place to start.

My phone just died too its 3:20PM, I took it off the charger this morning, checked a couple emails, then for the past 2 hours I have been chatting on IRC through DATA not Wifi, and the past hour ive been switching between Opera and zsIRC.... I also used the FM radio recently for about 10 mins to try it out... is this a lot of strain on the battery or should it last longer, I have the AT&T Fuze with stock rom.

Sometimes I think that there are people in this world (including myself) that suck the life out of batteries no matter what the device is.

My battery life was awful until I changed ROMs and radios.
Now. at around 3pm with fairly heavy use (msn on all day starting around 8am, texting, internet use) on any average day I have roughly 50% battery left with the 1500mAh battery from seidio, which is good enough for me.
the only thing is, I never use 3g as I have a euro raphael so I can only use edge.

Aren't you keeping your Data Connection on all day long? Try to do that on an iPhone. I only turn my Data Connection on when needed so the battery will last longer.

I'm with Alltel as well and mine can go about 8-10 hours with 10-15 texts, 10-20 minute calls, 5-10 emails.
Have you turned off auto update on the weather and windows updates. Also turn off location. (If you want GPS, then you need to turn it back on)

well, I have since reflashed to a new ROM and am having a much better response. getting much better battery but i also have the data connection off after 40 secs. I do have gps on but i thought it was only active when called by a program? ROM made biggest difference. still not 100% happy but getting better.

very bad talk time on my Fuze! please advise

I just received my fuze for 2 weeks, but my talk time is really bad. I tried almost every radio available with matching rilphone.dll. I see its listed at least 5 hours talk time, but my battery drop like 15% battery with 20 mins talk time. that's with 3G off, data off. just Bluetooth and Phone on. I get about the similar battery life with all the radios.

Well , you can just turn the bluetooth off. I have the same problem when I using bluetooth headset .
I guess the CPU and touch screen takes a lot of power , I have to charge my raphael every day.
maybe you can buy a larger battery .

what other programs are you running? Running this like SPB mobile shell and TF3D are big battery drains. Also, keeping your other programs running in the background is bad for the batterylife. try turning off all programs that you're not using after you're done with them.

I do have SPB Mobile Shell running. does SPB Mobile Shell affect talk time battery life? because it drains about 2-3% the whole night when I sleep.

Bluetooth!
Same here, while using bluetooth, the battery drains like anything. I dont use bluetooth anymore. It sucks but cant help.

sorry for not replying after a while.
i have SPB MS3 and it doesnt really drain it too much (a little bit but not too much)
what rom/radio are you using? those can be very significant factors for battery drain

i dont got a problem with mine, im running XBMods Rhodium TF3D with the AT&T Leaked ROM, with radio 1.12.25.19 i get like 7 hours out of it, without TF3D i get like 8.5 hours, and the reason i have that much its because i keep the phone off as in the screen, and like also i dont do anything to it like txt while on the phone and also signal is also a role in battery life as well

I had bad battery performance with Stock AT&T ROM
Then I flashed the Energy ROM 2.0 two weeks back and now the battery performance is much better

Possible Solution
Battery life on my Fuze sucked so bad the first week I had it. I saw it drop 10 percent just by looking at it for 10 minutes. So i started to dig around here on these awesome forums and the solution was simple. Whether you use stock rom or custom rom. Just find a way to turn off 3g networking. There are a bunch of tricks to do it. One thing i noticed is that my area has barely noticable 3g coverage so i found the signal reception always 1 or 2 bars. When i disabled the 3g connection, i found my battery increased dramatically. You can see for yourself by using DrSigstat. With the 3g its using over 200mah constantly trying to acquire the weak signal. This uses the battery very quickly. With the 3g off I am using as of this message 53Mah which extends battery life immensely. I am only connected to edge checking email every 30 minutes and this phone is usable. If you need the speed you simply toggle the 3g back on. The 3g network drains battery quick disable it I know there are a bunch of CABS to do it and even add it to the Comm Manager. Hopefully this helps.

I had the same problem, but that all changed when I took the phone on a Tahoe trip. Since I was using Garmin, the phone was ON most of the time and about 2 or 3 times the battery completely drained -- the phone got switched off on those occasions. And I used Motorola car charger to charge the phone during that trip.
When I got home a couple of days later, all of a sudden, the battery holds up like anything. Now I can go on without charging for upto 3 days with moderate use of course, but I do have google calendar and contacts sync'd up using activesync, 3G is always on and email sync'd thru pop3. weather and stocks updated few times a day as well.
And soon after I flashed EnergyROM with latest radio and matching rilphone.dll and now I have to admit that its a totally different experience with this ROM and the battery holds really well as well.
So I think that draining the battery completely and charging it using Motorola charger helped and then the EneryROM has a part to play as well.
Like zalooa said above, if you are in a poor 3G coverage area, it's going to drain your battery a lot faster, so location matters as well.

Abnormal battery drain

Hi,
i have an abnormal battery drain on my mda vario iv. The battery with light use up to 30min internet, 3-4 texts, 5min phone call drains in 5-6 hours. The e mail is set to manual, weather too, wi-fi is off more than 75% of the time,backlight to auto, energy saving to turn off screen and phone... I have the Energy ROM Photon 2, and 1.14.25.35 with matching rilphone. Tried a fer battery cabs, and some GPS cabs, because I have an enormous lag, that seemed to drain the battery even further.
Please help

I changed the radio to 1.14.25.05 with matching rilphone. The problem seems to be with gps, i used the gps for 15min, left it at 80% it went to sleep for 2 hours, and after I woke it up it was on 33%?!!
Help please

51 views no replys. c'mon people, some tips please

Hy Hy,
got the same problem... but don't know why...
I made a radio update to 1.11.25.01 since it is gone.
May be it is a problem with the newer versions?

thanx for the reply
could be, i will try,and report back. Definetely Energy ROM is very power consuming, the best reviews battery-wise are for Timolols roms, but the links are broken, and can not be downloaded. Energy rom is nice and smooth, but the ram consumption on idile is 55%,and that takes a lot of power. I tried a lot of tips from various sites, but nothing seems to work. Is there a program that can measure power consumption in certain moments?

seems like it's your radio as mentioned before. some energy roms have been great on battery life (i've gotten up to 36 hrs!) and some die after 8. maybe try a different version of the energy rom too?

My Ram consumption on idile is 43-48% and i use my Touch Pro to hear Mp3's the hole day at work ... and got a Battery livetime of about 9 to 11 Hours ...
But if i use my Navigation system it dies in about 2-3 hours... is it normal for GPS?

yes it is normal for gps use. 3h is actually a good result

I have had my Fuze for a few days now, also flashed to an Energy ROM (21885) and radio version 1.02.25.32. I am pretty disappointed with the battery life, I have it connected to a USB cable for most of the day, so its charged at work. When I leave at 4pm, the phone is barely touched until 6:30am the following day, at which point the battery is dead.
Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS are all off, I have GLight, ASKicker and nueROM Processor running on Powersave mode. I have not messed with the settings of these much yet, but am surprised at how poor the battery really is.
I will probably end up picking up a 1500mAH battery at some point.

lately ive had terrible battery life because of data.
i have average while texting and just using the phone
but data can take off about 7 pct every 10 mins. that dont seem normal to me