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Great News... 70% Done... New BT Stack Replacement 4 wm2005

Me and a group of talented developers here in Dubai are proud to announce the semi-completed BT Stack replacement for wm2003,wm2003se, and wm2005.
What we have learned so far is that the listening component of the MS BT Stack sucks big time. Our first aim with the new addon/replacement is to make windows mobile retrieve remote device name on incomming connection. And guess what...... It Worked !!!!!
Our first Beta version that will be released shortly, includes a BT listenener that replaces Microsoft's BT Stack Listener and will accept all incomming connections with added bonus of showing the Sender Device's BT name without having to first pair with the remote device. It also includes a File Save Dialogue Box that appears whenever incomming files have arrived and will allow you to save all these files to your own selected destination.
We hope that this BT Replacement Project will succesfully replace some major parts of the MS BT Stack and add some more important functionalities to our pda's.
Date of release: Very Soon ...
Device Compatibility: All HTC PDA phones that use the MS BT Stack.
OS Compatibility: wm2003, wm2003se, wm2005 (All Versions so far)
Price: Absolutely FREE !!!
Wish us luck .... TAN Software 2005

cool.. maybe it the answer in the BT WM5 Problem...
okay.. its a Blue Angel problem.. but i wait ^^ :lol:

eviltrooper said:
cool.. maybe it the answer in the BT WM5 Problem...
okay.. its a Blue Angel problem.. but i wait ^^ :lol:
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So, where is it??? :lol:

Re: Great News... 70% Done... New BT Stack Replacement 4 wm2
Hey if u need my help, lemme knw. I live in dubai.

Do you intend that your replacment stack will support A2DP?

I'd shoot me in the head if I'd get WM5 on my Magician and then it would even be able to act as A2DP-SRC... :lol:

Support for A2DP profile on my Magican is what I'm waiting for... which I definitely would pay for!
I've even got the compatible bluetooth headset...

@sh500: How do you use it at the moment? I plan for gift and I dunno which way to go. It should be A2DP headset as well as call headset used on a Magician. And Voice Command should be activated over the headset. Too much to ask?

wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks For you effort,
but hope that it is a developement of widcomm stack cause ms stack is poor in its functions (there is no network support or other widcomm services),so hope that the new stack will be full of inovations.......
Thank you a lot

Sounds great! Can't wait to test it!

very good
i am so happy to hear such a news

This is an example of the type of device the new stack will hopefully be compatible with
http://www.tekkeon.com/site/products-ez3000.php
Good luck!!

I sure do hope that it is the b/t solution with WM5 on the BA........I had to switch back to 2003SE and it is not near as nice as WM5, as well as the fact that I now have to soft reset once a day again with 2003se.
Later.......... 8)
eviltrooper said:
cool.. maybe it the answer in the BT WM5 Problem...
okay.. its a Blue Angel problem.. but i wait ^^ :lol:
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Good Luck
i wish you all the best in this project, also i hope it will work with WM05

Date of release: Very Soon ... Very<----- how soooon?

could be compatible with axims x50v using wm5 upgrade ... Ms stack sucks!

Widcomm 1.50 working on WM5.0
Maybe in the meantime those using WM5.0 could take a look at that...
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option...c=view&id=6671&catid=26&limit=15&limitstart=0
Dunno if it's specifically for Himalaya running WM5.0, but...
Haven't installed it myself so I can report success or failure.
Read carefully the thread for instructions.
Cheers,
Hal

this is most needed for the wizard basically theres no bluetooth for it.

Dont forget with the Widcomm stack bluetooth voice dialling doesnt work.

I dunno why everyone complains about MS Stack... it just lacks a lot of profiles. But when they are added the stack is more or less ok, isnt it?

Broadcom/widcom Bt Stack Not Working On Wm5?

Just tested broadcom/widcom bt stack versions 1.0,1.5,1.6 and 1.7 on aku3.5, 3.2 and 2.3 all having the same error - insufficient driver memory error. the only version of the stack that i was able to get the bt on was version 1.0 from the wm2k3 rom. Other than that you can't configure anything. Tried all the posted how-to's but with no luck. FIY broadcom/widcom stack supports many profiles like pan,lap, etc. that MS stack don't. Anyone knows how to PAN/LAP on MS stack? or are we stuck on a dumb MS Stack on WM5???

this seems to be an old problem (look on this topic http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_phorum&Itemid=125&phorum_query=read,26,25549 ). but luckily i found a solution at the same time. just read on the topic link.

I read it Where is the solution?

Try using the broadcom bluetooth by helmi..
It works perfectly.. just install then HUWALA!!
its located in the buzzdev.net

memory problem is probably caused by wrong com port assigments. there is helmi_c's thread about widcomm try 2 find solution there

double_ofour said:
Try using the broadcom bluetooth by helmi..
It works perfectly.. just install then HUWALA!!
its located in the buzzdev.net
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there are two helmi bt stacks which one? i already tried both on AKUs 3.5 and 3.2 with no avail. also helmi's bt was intended for blue angel and not himalaya. the other i know that is working is for universal. if it worked on your wm5 could you post details pls..ROM and bt versions. tnx!

The_hesham said:
I read it Where is the solution?
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the solution is moving back to tofclocks WM5 2.03a as discussed on the thread

here's i think is a working broadcom stack on aku 3.5 (don't know if it'll work on other aku's aside from helmi's). anyway here's the link - http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?op...25&phorum_query=read,26,28781,28786#msg-28786 . And someone kind enough to upload those files because they are missing on the xda-dev ftp server.
p.s
@c_shekhar
is broadcom bt ok on your new rom?

I can get the file. Please anyone be kind enough to upload it somewhere else.
Thank you.

tt said:
I can get the file. Please anyone be kind enough to upload it somewhere else.
Thank you.
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Thanks to llbasha
this the link but please read first the thread
http://www.4shared.com/file/12259302/1ea72d46/otherHelmiStuff.html
thread
http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?op...25&phorum_query=read,26,28781,28786#msg-28786

bt speed
[FYI]helmis bt work on all aku3.5 roms. anybody knows how to diagnose bt connection speeds? i use to stream live broadcasts on wm2k3se on bt and it was flawless. however on wm5 it seems as its lagging noticibly even with the same media server settings. am suspecting wm player, can anyone share a dump of their wm2k3se wm player pls so i can test. thanks!

bt 1.5 also works on wm5 - good pan profile(better than 1.7)..seems faster than 1.7 too. search files on buzzdev.com or on this forum.

The_hesham said:
Thanks to llbasha
this the link but please read first the thread
http://www.4shared.com/file/12259302/1ea72d46/otherHelmiStuff.html
thread
http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?op...25&phorum_query=read,26,28781,28786#msg-28786
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Thank you very much!

midget_1990 wm6 widcomm Bt stack ?

hiiiii
i wonder can i use a widcomm stack with midget WM6 rom ?
if yes , which one i must use ?
i hd one in helmi 1.1 and i was very satisfied ,
and thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanksssss
goood day
------------------UPDATE - -- --- --
i tried
((look in the thread from 10th reply))
Midget_1990 said:
http://www.htc-devs.com/uploads/Universal/Cabs/broadcomm_bt_stack.CAB
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no answer ??? strange !!!!
if i cant use any widcomm stack please tell me and don't make me confused hh
any hope ????????
thanks

no reply aaaaaaaaaaahhhh
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease anyone

dastan said:
no reply aaaaaaaaaaahhhh
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease anyone
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is this so hard to try on your uni? make full backup, install and try...

slimag said:
is this so hard to try on your uni? make full backup, install and try...
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ok it seems that i must try one , but i hoped that some one already tested it
thanks anyway
goood day

i want to try a widcomm stak
but i didnt find any of them that worked with universal
i tried search ,but nothing in uni forum !!!
can someone point me to a download link or thread ???
HEEEELP !!!

Here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/30721150/broadcomm_bt_stack.CAB

How are the tests going? It is woking?

maxstegi said:
Here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/30721150/broadcomm_bt_stack.CAB
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i cant download from rapid share ? any other links ????
at mean time im trying to download ,but no hope with rapid cause i use shared ip address !!!

http://www.htc-devs.com/uploads/Universal/Cabs/broadcomm_bt_stack.CAB

thanks
Midget_1990 said:
http://www.htc-devs.com/uploads/Universal/Cabs/broadcomm_bt_stack.CAB
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thaaaaanks
that works greeeaaaat , until now i tried file transfer and works %100
with Nokia S40 and S60 (6300 , N72 ) ,and i dont have a blutooth headset to try other functions ,
did any one want me to try something else with widcomm's stack ??????
thanks again Midget for your help and your beautiful ROM
thanks all ,

ok im testing it for aprox 2 hours
i have strange bugs , activesync connects after at least 10 sec from connecting USB
and my notification tab in setting\Sound and notification will open aprox after 6 seconds ,
i dont know if its just me or everyone got these few bugs
but the speed is excellent , may be 3 time or more faster than of M$

Yes, I can also confirm than Broadcom stack works great on new WM6 releases.
It is very fast, absorbs not much program memory, but quite a lot of storage memory
(>5MB, so I have now only 8MB on my storage space )
Works great with File Transfer, A2DP, OBEX Push, VCard Push and BT Serial
Ports (BT GPS). I will test HSP/HFP next week.
2 bugs:
- Can't turn off/on Bluetooth from Comm manager
- BT Icon in Setings->Conections is not VGA and has darker
background than Settings windows background...
Is this still in developement or abandoned?

Mr Groch said:
Yes, I can also confirm than Broadcom stack works great on new WM6 releases.
It is very fast, absorbs not much program memory, but quite a lot of storage memory
(>5MB, so I have now only 8MB on my storage space )
Works great with File Transfer, A2DP, OBEX Push, VCard Push and BT Serial
Ports (BT GPS). I will test HSP/HFP next week.
2 bugs:
- Can't turn off/on Bluetooth from Comm manager
- BT Icon in Setings->Conections is not VGA and has darker
background than Settings windows background...
Is this still in developement or abandoned?
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For now it was abandoned, I Cant continue the development... I've sold my universal, hope others might continue my work on this stack..

helmi_c said:
For now it was abandoned, I Cant continue the development... I've sold my universal, hope others might continue my work on this stack..
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really ??? why you sold it , very sad news , we will be missing you Helmi_c ....

I just installed Midget_1990 release of wm6 and cannot get A2DP to work, it skips and jumps horrendously no matter how i add or delete the custom reg hacks that have been posted.
Can anybody confirm an alternative method of fixing this, or whether this will fix it, and whether this is stable on this release or not.
Midget_1990, I noticed you have posted in this forum, could you comment, or advise on your release A2DP and or this widcomm version on your ROM?

simon_darley said:
I just installed Midget_1990 release of wm6 and cannot get A2DP to work, it skips and jumps horrendously no matter how i add or delete the custom reg hacks that have been posted.
Can anybody confirm an alternative method of fixing this, or whether this will fix it, and whether this is stable on this release or not.
Midget_1990, I noticed you have posted in this forum, could you comment, or advise on your release A2DP and or this widcomm version on your ROM?
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Try Widcomm stack, I have tested A2DP - works fine with new WM6 ROMs, and
sound quality is good

simon_darley said:
I just installed Midget_1990 release of wm6 and cannot get A2DP to work, it skips and jumps horrendously no matter how i add or delete the custom reg hacks that have been posted.
Can anybody confirm an alternative method of fixing this, or whether this will fix it, and whether this is stable on this release or not.
Midget_1990, I noticed you have posted in this forum, could you comment, or advise on your release A2DP and or this widcomm version on your ROM?
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no idea, i dont have any a2dp hardware to test.

installed widcomm/bluetooth stack found on ftp site. still beta i thin as an ex project by a rom cooker which appears to work great.
apparently, may be caused by cooked roms using the wm5 drivers. not sure if true or not.
btw widcomm is heaps better functional user friendly than the ms crap. wonder why no-one trfrd over to hermes. anyway, avrcp? doesnt work, but sound is trfrd.

Broadcom stack phone call button
Hey,
does anyone have a problem answering calls with the button on the bt headset with this stack?
Ariel

Two Versions ROMs - Different Benefits

There are two different versions of ROMs floating, each with different benefits. For seek of ease, I will name them Version A and Version B.
Version A:
1. MSVC (MicroSoft Voice Command) - Once the bluetooth is paired to the headset, from then on if the bluetooth is active, the incoming ringing sound goes to the headset, and not to the speaker phone. Thus, it either requires you to wear the headset 24/7 or to watch the display 24/7 for the incoming calls. This results in lots of mis-calls and then calling back.
Please Note: For more information on the above and how to resolve the above issue, please check out the excellent thread by Bengalih. Please go to the new Definitive MSVC thread to read about it. Thanks Bengalih!
2. The Resco Keyboard and some others cannot the set as default keyboard, no matter what sip program (or combination programs) is used. Forget that, just to activate the Resco Keyboard is impossible.
Version B:
1. IMAGiNet and/or MOBiDIV Arabizer refuses to install. Period, no if or but about it.
2. Skype installs but it doesn't work, though not all ROMs.
To wrap up:
In one month's time, I have almost flashed my tilt daily, thus trying all the latest ROMS. The only ROM which doesn't suffers from the above problems is Dutty's April 1 (April Fool's Day).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380991
There is another latest ROM which falls under the category of Version B is the latest PDAViet ROM. The ROM is lightning fast and thunderous. It has 32 PP and after installing lots and lots of programs (software), it still has:
Storage Memory: 102.24 Free
Program Memory: 49.75 Free
I can only say, WOW!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389737
KOR!

Hi KOR,
That makes my version 4. '4 flavours' a version 'A' I supose, with a little exeption to the BT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915
- Imaginet Arabizer compatible
- Skype compatible
if Skype (or MSN) is not connecting, go to Start\Settings\Connections\Connection\Manage existing connections\Proxy settings\ and deactivate 'This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet'
- I added BT AudioToggle to my Multimedia build so that you can switch between the Bluetooth headset and the device speaker.
Cheers,
Leo

Laurentius26 said:
Hi KOR,
That makes my version 4. '4 flavours' a version 'A' I supose, with a little exeption to the BT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915
- Imaginet Arabizer compatible
- Skype compatible
if Skype (or MSN) is not connecting, go to Start\Settings\Connections\Connection\Manage existing connections\Proxy settings\ and deactivate 'This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet'
- I added BT AudioToggle to my Multimedia build so that you can switch between the Bluetooth headset and the device speaker.
Cheers,
Leo
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Hi Leo,
Will come back shortly on this. In the meantime many thanks!
KOR!

Im using HyperDragon II. Any Version is great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386519
They are really Stables

userwag said:
Im using HyperDragon II. Any Version is great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386519
They are really Stables
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Hi userwag,
The HyperDragon II is a beautiful, stable and very fast ROM. I believe the ROM is built from the NoThrills ROM.
Unfortunately, it falls under the category of Version B. It would be nice if we can combine the benefits of both Version A and Version B together. I believe Leo would be not very far from doing so!
KOR!

King of Rapture™ said:
There are two different versions of ROMs floating, each with different benefits. For seek of ease, I will name them Version A and Version B.
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King,
since you spent alot of time on this, would you be able to point me towards which ROMs out there fall into the "B" category. I am looking for a fairly new 6.1 clean/lite ROM that does not have any bluetooth issues.
Also, do you think that the Version B problems may be because of NetCF 3.5 instead of 2.0? And, what exactly is the Skype problem? I have had issues after installing Skype that it doesn't properly connect, but after messing around with network and proxy settings it would function.
thx

KOR, good summarization of the most annoying problems I faced along the last 2 months. As Leo stated above, his ROM version C 6, May one is good regarding the BT problem, I am using a sterio BT headset, and the ringing tone is directed via the headset while still there in the phon speaker. I have not tried imaginiet arabizer yet, but it worked with version A.

bengalih said:
King,
since you spent alot of time on this, would you be able to point me towards which ROMs out there fall into the "B" category. I am looking for a fairly new 6.1 clean/lite ROM that does not have any bluetooth issues.
Also, do you think that the Version B problems may be because of NetCF 3.5 instead of 2.0? And, what exactly is the Skype problem? I have had issues after installing Skype that it doesn't properly connect, but after messing around with network and proxy settings it would function.
thx
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Dear bengalih,
I am not a very heavy user of Skype. As far as fast and stable ROMs in category of Version B are concerned, the HyperDragon II ROM released on May 4, and PDAViet ROM released on May 3 are the way to go. The links for them respectively are as follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386519
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389737
I see that PDAViet have released a new ROM today on May 8. I am downloading it right now and will give it a try to see how it fares.
As far as A2DP is concerned, I believe, master Leo had it mastered during his Universal cooking days!
I am charging my stereo bluetooth right now and will try to test some of the other ROMs for A2DP.
KOR!

Hi there KOR,
On the Kaiser I'm still using my Motorola HT820 and it works flawless
It's nice to have incomming call anouncement with MS Voice Command over the A2DP headset too.
I pickup by pushing a button on my headset and start talking, also I can start Voice Command over the headset and make a call.
Cheers,
Leo
King of Rapture™ said:
Dear bengalih,
I am not a very heavy user of Skype. As far as fast and stable ROMs in category of Version B are concerned, the HyperDragon II ROM released on May 4, and PDAViet ROM released on May 3 are the way to go. The links for them respectively are as follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386519
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389737
I see that PDAViet have released a new ROM today on May 8. I am downloading it right now and will give it a try to see how it fares.
As far as A2DP is concerned, I believe, master Leo had it mastered during his Universal cooking days!
I am charging my stereo bluetooth right now and will try to test some of the other ROMs for A2DP.
KOR!
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi there KOR,
On the Kaiser I'm still using my Motorola HT820 and it works flawless
It's nice to have incomming call anouncement with MS Voice Command over the A2DP headset too.
I pickup by pushing a button on my headset and start talking, also I can start Voice Command over the headset and make a call.
Cheers,
Leo
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Hi Buddy,
No doubt that the A2DP works flawlessly in your ROMs.
I am still using your drivers and settings for A2DP for every ROM I flash to the Universal. The Motorola HT820 rocks without a hitch in my Unis.
Best regards,
KOR!

No Resco Keyboard function?
King of Rapture™ said:
There are two different versions of ROMs floating, each with different benefits. For seek of ease, I will name them Version A and Version B.
Version A:
. . .
2. The Resco Keyboard and some others cannot the set as default keyboard, no matter what sip program (or combination programs) is used. Forget that, just to activate the Resco Keyboard is impossible . . .
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Can you provide a list of ones that fall into this category? Resco Keyboard function is of prime importance to me, so I would want to avoid these.
Thanks!

cushcalc said:
Can you provide a list of ones that fall into this category? Resco Keyboard function is of prime importance to me, so I would want to avoid these.
Thanks!
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Hi cushcalc.
Sure! These are the ROMs which I have tried.
Version A:
1. Dutty's all ROM released since April 2.
2. Leo's latest release Laurentius26_V4.
Version B:
These below ROMs are built from the NoThrills as a base.
1. Leo's releases Laurentius26_V3, Laurentius26_V2 and Laurentius26_V1.
2. Sakajati's HyperDragon II.
3. PDAVeit's ROMs released on May 8 and May 3.
4. Its Right's TNT 19202 Series.
When I first got my att tilt, TNT was one of the first ROMs I flashed. Then I tried lots of other ROMs. Yesterday, I flashed this ROM again and honestly I am impressed. I am sticking with this ROM for a while, even though the TNT ROM doesn't install the IMAGiNet and MOBiDIV Arabizer.
Please Note:
1. Dutty's April 1 ROM, is the only ROM which combines the benefit of both Version A and Version B.
2. I have not tried any ROMs released before March 31.
3. All the ROMs mentioned above are great, fast, stable and so forth. Each one has it strengths and weakness.
KOR!

Hey guys, based on the MSVC issues listed with the ROMs in this thread, you may be interested in a new tool I wrote for MSVC. Please go to the new Definitive MSVC thread to read about it.

bengalih said:
Hey guys, based on the MSVC issues listed with the ROMs in this thread, you may be interested in a new tool I wrote for MSVC. Please go to the new Definitive MSVC thread to read about it.
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Dear Bengalih,
Excellent thread on MSVC (MicroSoft Voice Command). Very useful and informative.
I have added your thread on the first post and have bookmarked it in my PC.
Thanks,
Mohamed

Keyboard and mouse over BT

Is possible? Googling I found BlueInput.
Does anyone tried it? And also, is there some free app to do this?

No way...'cause Hd2 have Widcomm Bt stack instead of MS BT Stack. Widcomm don't support bluetooth mouse profile. Keyboard works without third part software.

danieletroiano said:
No way...'cause Hd2 have Widcomm Bt stack instead of MS BT Stack. Widcomm don't support bluetooth mouse profile. Keyboard works without third part software.
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So if I understand well:
- bluetooth keyboard can be installed without any third part software
- mouse can be installed using a third part software... if so, what?

It looks like it isn't just us with the issue of the widcomm stack:
http://www.eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=19748
Acer released a patch for these guys!

Aleemz said:
It looks like it isn't just us with the issue of the widcomm stack:
http://www.eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=19748
Acer released a patch for these guys!
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If I understand well Acer released a patch but problems are not still solved...