"MemMaid" - Yes or No ? - Touch Cruise General

Hi everyone.
I'm thinking about buying the MemMaid for my Cruise.
What do you think about this app? is it good? effective in any way?
or is it from those apps that only do more damage to your device.
Someone here has it?
Well I tried to do a search, I didn't find much reviews here about this app.
Thank you all.

Try searching some more. I read a post at some point where someone put a pretty good argument against cleaning out memory. Pretty convincing. If you think about it, memory is there to be used, and intelligent algorithms try to predict future use and keep that in memory. You wouldn't want to clean that out. Having said that, I haven't seen scientific evidence showing tests run with and without MemMaid. Nor have I looked for such tests. The fact of the matter is, I don't have any memory issues with my Cruise.
What scenarios do you anticipate needing to use something like this? On many occasions, I've had multiple apps running and no memory issues. Memory cleanup after closing apps seem to be pretty good. You can always SR every week or so if you feel memory is not getting flushed out. My 0.02.

hambola said:
Try searching some more. I read a post at some point where someone put a pretty good argument against cleaning out memory. Pretty convincing. If you think about it, memory is there to be used, and intelligent algorithms try to predict future use and keep that in memory. You wouldn't want to clean that out. Having said that, I haven't seen scientific evidence showing tests run with and without MemMaid. Nor have I looked for such tests. The fact of the matter is, I don't have any memory issues with my Cruise.
What scenarios do you anticipate needing to use something like this? On many occasions, I've had multiple apps running and no memory issues. Memory cleanup after closing apps seem to be pretty good. You can always SR every week or so if you feel memory is not getting flushed out. My 0.02.
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Well hambola that was convincing.
I don't have any memory issues actually.
I thought more about the Registry thing...maybe it's good to clean it sometimes.
Thanks about the reply, helped me.

I have MemMaid and love it. It has lots of features, not just memory cleaning. It lets you enable and disable "auto start up" apps. You can toggle them on or off. You can see memory usage of apps so you can see how efficient apps are in your memory. You can then decide between using apps based on that. I.e. which weather program to use. You can clean out your registry of dead items, esp if you install and remove lots of software. You can see which processes use the most CPU time kind of like your PC's task manager.
Plus, yes you can clean out your active memory also. I do it every now and then, probably once a day. I find I very rarely need to soft reset as a result.
For me, the cost of the program has been worth it. That's my opinion.

Love it myself.

If you get MemMaid, get it for two reasons: 1) cleaner utility and 2) the uninstall application feature. Both alone make it worth the purchase.

jomo25 said:
I have MemMaid and love it. It has lots of features, not just memory cleaning. It lets you enable and disable "auto start up" apps. You can toggle them on or off. You can see memory usage of apps so you can see how efficient apps are in your memory. You can then decide between using apps based on that. I.e. which weather program to use. You can clean out your registry of dead items, esp if you install and remove lots of software. You can see which processes use the most CPU time kind of like your PC's task manager.
Plus, yes you can clean out your active memory also. I do it every now and then, probably once a day. I find I very rarely need to soft reset as a result.
For me, the cost of the program has been worth it. That's my opinion.
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Nice...thank you!

JNGold said:
If you get MemMaid, get it for two reasons: 1) cleaner utility and 2) the uninstall application feature. Both alone make it worth the purchase.
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fair enough

My notification queue gets blocked every now and then. Memmaid allows you to clean that up automatically or manually. I really can't live without it!

deechte said:
My notification queue gets blocked every now and then. Memmaid allows you to clean that up automatically or manually. I really can't live without it!
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Yeah but for that I think SR will be good enough. am I wrong?

EyeVein said:
Yeah but for that I think SR will be good enough. am I wrong?
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If SR is soft reset, then no, you are not correct. If notification database can actually get worse (more duplicates) by soft resetting. I have seen it happen.

JNGold said:
If SR is soft reset, then no, you are not correct. If notification database can actually get worse (more duplicates) by soft resetting. I have seen it happen.
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Oh, ok. Thanks for the warning

Well guys I installed the app!
I think it did alot of good to my device.
First, when I boot it, I have 43% free RAM instead of 48\49% that i had before,
and it's much faster now. yey
In the cleaning options,
there's a thing called "Bad Uninstall (Registry)" which is marked in red...
I didn't do it.
is it dangerous? why it's the only thing that marked in red?
Thanks again, to all of you.

EyeVein said:
Well guys I installed the app!
I think it did alot of good to my device.
First, when I boot it, I have 43% free RAM instead of 48\49% that i had before,
and it's much faster now. yey
In the cleaning options,
there's a thing called "Bad Uninstall (Registry)" which is marked in red...
I didn't do it.
is it dangerous? why it's the only thing that marked in red?
Thanks again, to all of you.
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hmm i'm also interested in Memmaid. Cant you delete that "bad uninstall" or back it up and then delete?

XTREEM|RAGE said:
hmm i'm also interested in Memmaid. Cant you delete that "bad uninstall" or back it up and then delete?
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Well I can delete it...
I didn't yet because there are 2 other options (which isn't marked in red)
that delete almost the same thing (Bad Install, Bad Registry)
that's why I didn't 'mess' with the "bad uninstall registry" yet.

EyeVein said:
Well I can delete it...
I didn't yet because there are 2 other options (which isn't marked in red)
that delete almost the same thing (Bad Install, Bad Registry)
that's why I didn't 'mess' with the "bad uninstall registry" yet.
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That means you have "garbage" left over from an app you have uninstalled in the past. That is usually the case when using the standard WM uninstall control panel. That is also why I mentioned that you should use MemMaid's uninstall util as it does a much better job of deleting everything when uninstalling an application.

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That means you have "garbage" left over from an app you have uninstalled in the past. That is usually the case when using the standard WM uninstall control panel. That is also why I mentioned that you should use MemMaid's uninstall util as it does a much better job of deleting everything when uninstalling an application.
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Yep guess you right. 10X

I guess you can use that registry cleaner. But the mere fact that we're no XDA means that a lot of people here flash new ROMs and I wouldn't see the value of using a registry or uninstall cleaner.
BUT, there's a software out there for everyone and glad it's working out for you.

hambola said:
I guess you can use that registry cleaner. But the mere fact that we're no XDA means that a lot of people here flash new ROMs and I wouldn't see the value of using a registry or uninstall cleaner.
BUT, there's a software out there for everyone and glad it's working out for you.
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For the things spoken about (re: above), it doesn't matter what ROM you use. All versions of WM suffer from the same generic problems in which MemMaid can help.

I did not mean that ROMs will fix those problems. I meant that by the frequency of flashing ROMs, when would you end up using or caring about a clean uninstall. Make sense?
Anyways as mentioned, to each his own and I'm glad that software is working out for a lot of people. Who knows, maybe I'll check it out myself one day.

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[REQUEST] Dialer app or Contacts app in memory

Hi,
Mods, feel free to move this to the Q&A if you think this is inappropriate. Thanks.
I would like to request whether a similar function like the "Home app in memory" for "Spare Parts" can be extended to critical functions like the Dialer and Contacts app? I find it irritating having the phone to constantly restart the application when coming off the browser or some other applications. It takes a good 2 seconds to load it completely. I have tried clearing the logs etc. but I think having it in memory would really speed up its use.
Can such a thing be done? Or has it been done? Please comment, thank you
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This is more of a request than a question...probably would go to the apps forum,
but anyway,
My solution is to download the AutoKiller app, and set it to whatever setting you like...go to settings, and find the running processes, long click on Dialer and select "Keep Alive"
Works for me. Always seems to stay in memory whenever I check running services. If you have any other task managers or app killers, be sure to "ignore" Dialer for those as well, so they don't close it either. Hope that helps. This is a great idea though, I've been introduced it along time ago, with no response, maybe you'll achieve otherwise. Good luck.
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This is more of a request than a question...probably would go to the apps forum,
but anyway,
My solution is to download the AutoKiller app, and set it to whatever setting you like...go to settings, and find the running processes, long click on Dialer and select "Keep Alive"
Works for me. Always seems to stay in memory whenever I check running services. If you have any other task managers or app killers, be sure to "ignore" Dialer for those as well, so they don't close it either. Hope that helps. This is a great idea though, I've been introduced it along time ago, with no response, maybe you'll achieve otherwise. Good luck.
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Thanks for the alternative solution However, I am hoping that it would automatically boot it into memory when the phone starts, instead of having to run it once before it gets shifted into the memory. Hope I am making sense... but I'll certainly try your solution.
erlern said:
Thanks for the alternative solution However, I am hoping that it would automatically boot it into memory when the phone starts, instead of having to run it once before it gets shifted into the memory. Hope I am making sense... but I'll certainly try your solution.
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Im not sure...good point though, let me know how that works for ya
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Im not sure...good point though, let me know how that works for ya
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Yeah, I tested your method and it works perfectly, just 1 second or less to switch. But as expected, I need to run it through Autokiller again when I reboot the system. I really hope that it can be autostarted and remained in the memory from the start. But that's a lot... this will have to do while we wait for a kind developer who may take pity on us on this matter
So they're loading slowly on your phone i'm guessing?
another app...
There is another app in the market called autostarts that you can set to start the dialer on startup, a long way of accomplishing what you want, but my work for you.
OP, it seems AutoKiller app will do this for you. Check this post in the How to configure Android's *internal* taskkiller thread.
Thanks for the advices guys. I have tried all of it, and as I am looking at the documentation for 'taskkiller' I seriously am sadden that it is more technical and complicated than "Spare Parts" simple feature of ticking a box
My phone at times loads things slower than usual, especially the dialer app when I have more than 10 call log contacts, etc. I guess it is a HTC Dream problem with its now ancient 528Mhz processor. *shrug*
If a developer can help out on this, it would be great
wait for my HTC cupcake Rom...
dialer is part of the phone and stays in memory.
takes around 1 second to load...
domenukk said:
wait for my HTC cupcake Rom...
dialer is part of the phone and stays in memory.
takes around 1 second to load...
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Thanks, will definitely wait for it I wonder whether this can be integrated into CyanogenMod?
erlern said:
I seriously am sadden that it is more technical and complicated than "Spare Parts" simple feature of ticking a box
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It is not complicated at all.
1) Install AutoKiller
2) Start AutoKiller
3) Allow it root access permanently if it asks, relaunch AutoKiller
4) Click on Processes tab
5) Long press on Dialer
6) Choose "Keep Alive"
Super Jamie said:
It is not complicated at all.
1) Install AutoKiller
2) Start AutoKiller
3) Allow it root access permanently if it asks, relaunch AutoKiller
4) Click on Processes tab
5) Long press on Dialer
6) Choose "Keep Alive"
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I understand the process. When I say it is complicated, I am referring to the need to redo every 5 steps whenever my phone is restarted. I restart my phone daily, and would find that having to relaunch Autokiller, and click this and that is more complicated than just clicking a box 'once' and not needing to worry about that anymore. In fact, this is the problem stated in the thread given under "durability". Thanks again.
Huhu... I've asked the same question too (less clearly than you do, but got the same answer) here and elsewhere...
I'm looking for exactly the same than you.
meuhlavache said:
Huhu... I've asked the same question too (less clearly than you do, but got the same answer) here and elsewhere...
I'm looking for exactly the same than you.
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I still hope there will be a kind developer who will help with this request. If the solution can be incorporated into a ROM like cyanogen's ROM, even better. Thank you anyone who may be interested.
www.bit.ly/b26PcJ <<this rom has the dialer locked into memory.
Big release will be as soon as I have the time for it.
please report if you like it and if everything works
have fun with it
I agree that this feature is a good idea and should be more standard. Making calls is the primary function of our devices and as such, I should be able to do it instantaneously. On my last non-smart phone, I was able to push talk and get the dialer in like, 1 micro-second. On my G1, I've gotten more used to waiting anywhere from 2 to 5 seconds.
+1
I would love this feature to be implemented in the future.
I too have been looking for a way to set the oom of a few processes to -17 so they'll never close. I've used autokiller, but i too hate that everything has to be set after every boot. I've set the minfree values through custom_init on my hacked up version of StupidFast 1.2, and I'd love to be able to set the oom values there too.
Well I am currently looking in the android source for a way to set it...
playing around with adb shell a little. will report soon
as long as I am doing this, you can still use the rom from above... HTC dialer is just sooo much better when it comes to speed, memory consumption and usability...
best thing would be to get this ported to donut...
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/proc/<pid>/oom-score shows process' current badness score.
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/proc/<pid>/oom-adj
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ther you could set the oom score....
get the pid with 'pidof [app name]'
you can include the pidof in the whole thing.
so it should be something like
echo -17 > /proc/'pidof [whatever app]'/oom-adj
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But I am not shure... still trying
but be aware that there is already waay to little memory avaliable on our phones...
possible for badness (this value) is anything from -17 to +15...
-17 will never be killed, no matter what.
/edit: there is also something like:
oomkilladj = OOM-DISABLE
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stupid :/
/edit: android contacts is com.android.contacts.
/edit: sorry, I have no more time. Anybody else try it please...
seems not to work for me like i have posted it...

[Q] how do you close apps?

so i found out how to force close apps under settings but theres gotta be a better way.
for example lets say i have browser, market, and facebook apps open. all showing under the window selection button. after time i get a ton of windows there and i don't want all of them open. how do i close them selectively without going through all the settings menu crud?
some apps let me close from within, most don't though and leave me stuck with a ton of windows (apps) open.
What you are asking isn't necessary unless an application has malfunctioned. There is no other way to close applications other than using the force close button in settings. Android handles this itself -- if this doesn't satisfy you download a task manager.
I don't think there is a way yet.
What Google needs to do is make those preview windows in the multitasking bar long-pressable for a menu to be able to close them.
modru2004 said:
so i found out how to force close apps under settings but theres gotta be a better way.
for example lets say i have browser, market, and facebook apps open. all showing under the window selection button. after time i get a ton of windows there and i don't want all of them open. how do i close them selectively without going through all the settings menu crud?
some apps let me close from within, most don't though and leave me stuck with a ton of windows (apps) open.
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There is no need to manually close out apps. Since 2.1, Android has done an excellent job managing memory. It's been written many times (some directly from Google) that micromanaging your apps will actually hurt battery performance. You'll essentially be working against the system as opposed to helping it.
I am not sure if my task manager is working on this device. I use AutoKiller and when I killed task it doesn't appear as though anything closes. Can somebody confirm?
atoy74 said:
There is no need to manually close out apps. Since 2.1, Android has done an excellent job managing memory. It's been written many times (some directly from Google) that micromanaging your apps will actually hurt battery performance. You'll essentially be working against the system as opposed to helping it.
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id like to point out thats NOT the issue.
the issue is the ton of windows you end up having to sort through unless you close them. its a quality of life thing, i don't like having unused unnecessary windows open that i have to sort through to get to the stuff i am using. its just bad form.
foldog22 said:
I am not sure if my task manager is working on this device. I use AutoKiller and when I killed task it doesn't appear as though anything closes. Can somebody confirm?
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It will most likely not work until its rewritten. The way 2.2 and now 3.0 allow access is completely different then 2.1 and below. Plus as said about 200 million task there is 0 reason to run a task killer. If you wanna clear them out, even though there is 0 reason, reboot.
Okay, I get the memory management issue, but as the OP pointed out, I've got all sorts of icons in the "task bar area" (bottom right hand corner) that just sit there or keep coming back.
For example, I haven't listened to any music on my Xoom since yesterday morning, yet I've got an icon down there for Music and Rhapsody. Also, there's no way to clear some notifications.
There's got to be a way to at least clear out the notification isn't there?
you tap on the little icon music for example and you will see a little x on the right of it, click that and it closes it from the notification system
There is absolutely no reason to use a task killer or manually kill tasks. 2.2, 2.3, 3.0, etc. handle memory and tasks extremely well. In many cases, task killers will only cost you more battery and more slowdowns than letting tasks just run out and sit in memory. Unless you're seeing rogue or malfunctioning tasks in the background causing slowdowns, there is no need to kill them.
I do wish you could scroll through the recent running apps rather than only being able to access the latest 5, but spam closing background apps doesnt help at all.
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I don't think there is a way yet.
What Google needs to do is make those preview windows in the multitasking bar long-pressable for a menu to be able to close them.
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While I haven't used a task manager since I started learning how android actually works last year when starting to make apps, I can't help but want the same thing in honeycomb for malfunctioning apps. I think google left it out intentionally to discourage task-killing rampages by oblivious users.
Every time I read "you do not need to close apps" I want to scream. first hour of usage I had a second browser installed and it and the stock browser were conflicting with each other... all I wanted to do was a quick close of one of the browsers.
There are always a multitude of good reasons to want to close a background app. I completely understand the technical reasons why an app does not need to be closed, but from a user experience point of view, it should be made simple.
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Every time I read "you do not need to close apps" I want to scream. first hour of usage I had a second browser installed and it and the stock browser were conflicting with each other... all I wanted to do was a quick close of one of the browsers.
There are always a multitude of good reasons to want to close a background app. I completely understand the technical reasons why an app does not need to be closed, but from a user experience point of view, it should be made simple.
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Which is exactly why in my first post I said "...isn't necessary unless an application has malfunctioned" otherwise such a thing is barely necessary. And in your case, the classic "Settings > ....... > Force Close" would have easily sufficed.
So what you are saying is that a method to kill tasks is necessary, just not often. I, for instance, just had the xda app stuck on the splash screen. I killed it and restarted the app and all was good. There is a potential for harm if used over zealously but at times it would be nice if there was a more convenient way to close an app when necessary.
Applications do not always behave as they should so to say there is no need to kill am app is making a naive assumption that every android app is perfect.
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martonikaj said:
I do wish you could scroll through the recent running apps rather than only being able to access the latest 5, but spam closing background apps doesnt help at all.
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Oddly enough, if you turn to portrait, you get a few more. So, technically its not a hard limit on 5, but rather (literally) limited by space on the screen.
Anyone want to place a bet as to what rev we see scrollability?
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JanetPanic said:
So what you are saying is that a method to kill tasks is necessary, just not often. I, for instance, just had the xda app stuck on the splash screen. I killed it and restarted the app and all was good. There is a potential for harm if used over zealously but at times it would be nice if there was a more convenient way to close an app when necessary.
Applications do not always behave as they should so to say there is no need to kill am app is making a naive assumption that every android app is perfect.
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If this happens use the built in task killer, settings/applications/running tab.
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bwcorvus said:
If this happens use the built in task killer, settings/applications/running tab.
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I did and it worked. As I said it would be nice to have a more convenient way of force stopping apps that are not behaving.
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Closing apps isn't necessary for two reasons.
1. Android does a good job at managing apps on its own.
2. You have 1GB of RAM to work with.
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Watchdog does a considerable job since it only lets you know when an app is misbehaving. And since being on 2.3 its barely given me any alerts. Perhaps further proving the awesome memory management.
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Available memory and tasks

This is my 4th Android phone, and I am still a little unclear on how memory works on this machine. I use AutoKiller, yet I am still confused. As I understand it, 100mb or 5mb free, it shouldn't affect the operation of the device until something needs more than the available and has to clear room. So, how does this work, exactly? I am continually running low on the Triumph, yet if I set the preset in AutoKiller higher, I begin to lose services ranging from alarm clocks to social networking notifications. Where do I begin to find balance? Am I missing something?
I haven't had a problem with starting to lose services like the alarm clock but I was seeing the system significantly slow down even as I kept all unnecessary tasks from running. So I figured that I would root my system, and get rid of all the pre-installed software that I didn't use. The funny thing is that after I rooted the system all the memory issues went away, and the system really flies now. I don't know what changed, when I rooted it. But I am not seeing the same slow responses, the constant starting of tasks that I don't use and so forth. I know that its not an answer so to say, but I thought that I would share so as to maybe help you, or see if it happened with someone else.
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I haven't had a problem with starting to lose services like the alarm clock but I was seeing the system significantly slow down even as I kept all unnecessary tasks from running. So I figured that I would root my system, and get rid of all the pre-installed software that I didn't use. The funny thing is that after I rooted the system all the memory issues went away, and the system really flies now. I don't know what changed, when I rooted it. But I am not seeing the same slow responses, the constant starting of tasks that I don't use and so forth. I know that its not an answer so to say, but I thought that I would share so as to maybe help you, or see if it happened with someone else.
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Thanks for the reply. It's nice to hear other experiences. I am already rooted, and AutoKiller requires root. I'm just being patient and hoping that a custom ROM can solve problems.
Rooting shouldn't change anything except whether or not the phone is rooted. That's it. Task killers rarely help because those apps you kill just come back as soon as you look away. So I would personally recommend you only kill the miscreant apps, and ultimately remove them if you can.
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Rooting shouldn't change anything except whether or not the phone is rooted. That's it. Task killers rarely help because those apps you kill just come back as soon as you look away. So I would personally recommend you only kill the miscreant apps, and ultimately remove them if you can.
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Autokiller doesn't work that way. It merely changes Android's already existing internal programming to be a touch more aggressive. It does nothing on its own, merely giving you an interface to alter Android's own values for task management and app priority.
What I really need to know is if that aggression is necessary. Android's default minimum for memory is 24mb (that is the level at which the system will kill off empty apps). I can raise that number, but is it necessary? Some one told me that free memory amount is irrelevant in Android. If that's true, what is the point in making sure my system has 100mb free as opposed to 20mb?
I wouldn't think that extra memory management app is necessary, the only problems any android 2.2 phone (or any android) has are apps that are coded porely are installed. Just use a app that shows cpu usage. If a app is porely written you will see it..... those are the ones to uninstall.....not kill, uninstall.
tsac said:
I wouldn't think that extra memory management app is necessary, the only problems any android 2.2 phone (or any android) has are apps that are coded porely are installed. Just use a app that shows cpu usage. If a app is porely written you will see it..... those are the ones to uninstall.....not kill, uninstall.
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Like I said, the app merely gives me a UI to alter Android's already existing internal programming in regards to service priority. I am just trying to better understand how Android does it's work.

[Q] Could someone please explain the JB multitasking?

Can anyone explain to me why the JellyBean multitasking is so damn weird? Whenever im using my phone and i open the task manager, i ALWAYS see a random app open which i never opened after rebooting. For example, rebooted my phone this morning and the only apps i opened were the phone app, messaging, mail. However, the task manager lists the following apps as open: "Android core apps, Tasks, Picasa Uploader, Social Manager, Notes".
So my questions is, Why are all these random apps open and eating up battery and memory? I guess android core apps must be system required to run in background at all times but what about the other ones? Is there a way to fix this?
I have used ICS and GB on htc inpire and sensation and both software versions would not show these "random" apps open, it would only show what ive opened and let run in the background.
Thanks for all the help.
mominn8266 said:
Can anyone explain to me why the JellyBean multitasking is so damn weird? Whenever im using my phone and i open the task manager, i ALWAYS see a random app open which i never opened after rebooting. For example, rebooted my phone this morning and the only apps i opened were the phone app, messaging, mail. However, the task manager lists the following apps as open: "Android core apps, Tasks, Picasa Uploader, Social Manager, Notes".
So my questions is, Why are all these random apps open and eating up battery and memory? I guess android core apps must be system required to run in background at all times but what about the other ones? Is there a way to fix this?
I have used ICS and GB on htc inpire and sensation and both software versions would not show these "random" apps open, it would only show what ive opened and let run in the background.
Thanks for all the help.
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Use an app called greenify in play store to keep apps from opening.
Here's the link to the apps XDA page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
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majortaylor said:
Use an app called greenify in play store to keep apps from opening.
Here's the link to the apps XDA page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
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Thanks ill try that app. This multitasking system really makes me mad. Why would anyone come up with a system like this that wastes battery and performance...
Unfortunately greenify only helps with non system apps. So notes, tasks, weather, social manager and etc will still have a mind of their own and open whenever they want.
mominn8266 said:
Thanks ill try that app. This multitasking system really makes me mad. Why would anyone come up with a system like this that wastes battery and performance...
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You obviously have no idea how the Android OS works.
Unless you have actual evidence that these apps are hurting your battery and performance, you should really stop worrying about it. I'm pretty sure the people who designed the OS have a pretty good idea of how to optimize its performance.
thebobmannh said:
You obviously have no idea how the Android OS works.
Unless you have actual evidence that these apps are hurting your battery and performance, you should really stop worrying about it. I'm pretty sure the people who designed the OS have a pretty good idea of how to optimize its performance.
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Maybe you could help me understand how it works then? My only question / concern is why are apps that have never been opened running in the background?
mominn8266 said:
Maybe you could help me understand how it works then? My only question / concern is why are apps that have never been opened running in the background?
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Sorry, didn't mean to be a douche (or, I did mean to, but shouldn't have been).
If you say you've "never opened" them, why do you even bother having them installed? You've been given a solution to this "problem," (Greenify), but honestly any benefit you see will more than likely be placebo. The OS is generally smart enough to know what to run and what not to run. Apps that are loaded into memory aren't necessarily "running" in the traditional sense, they're just in memory. It doesn't take any extra battery to have something in memory (memory is either powered on or not).
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Sorry, didn't mean to be a douche (or, I did mean to, but shouldn't have been).
If you say you've "never opened" them, why do you even bother having them installed? You've been given a solution to this "problem," (Greenify), but honestly any benefit you see will more than likely be placebo. The OS is generally smart enough to know what to run and what not to run. Apps that are loaded into memory aren't necessarily "running" in the traditional sense, they're just in memory. It doesn't take any extra battery to have something in memory (memory is either powered on or not).
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unless causing wakelocks or syncing/updating when you don't want them too, I tend to just turn my Radios on and off as I need them.
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Sorry, didn't mean to be a douche (or, I did mean to, but shouldn't have been).
If you say you've "never opened" them, why do you even bother having them installed? You've been given a solution to this "problem," (Greenify), but honestly any benefit you see will more than likely be placebo. The OS is generally smart enough to know what to run and what not to run. Apps that are loaded into memory aren't necessarily "running" in the traditional sense, they're just in memory. It doesn't take any extra battery to have something in memory (memory is either powered on or not).
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Dont be sorry, never took it offensively lol
I cant really uninstall system apps such as notes, tasks, social manager (even though i dont even have facebook or twitter installed). Trust me ive disabled all the apps in greenify and uninstalled all the apps i could that i didnt want.
I also have another question, When i open the "recent" app interface, does swiping to the right mean the app is closed or just taken off the list? is there a way to "kill" an app using the recent app menu?
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Dont be sorry, never took it offensively lol
I cant really uninstall system apps such as notes, tasks, social manager (even though i dont even have facebook or twitter installed). Trust me ive disabled all the apps in greenify and uninstalled all the apps i could that i didnt want.
I also have another question, When i open the "recent" app interface, does swiping to the right mean the app is closed or just taken off the list? is there a way to "kill" an app using the recent app menu?
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not sure but there's an easy way to find out.
swipe it away then check in settings, apps, running. If it's still there then no, if it isn't then, yes.
If that doesn't work then no there isn't a way to kill in recent, if it does, then yes there is and you discovered how.

[Q] Getting Adds with ALL apps closed!

I am being driven crazy by random pop-adds even when no apps are open.
I contacted Samsung support and they told me apps can pop up add even when apps are closed, maybe their right but I have my doubts. They advised me to put my phone in "Safe Mode", but why should I be forced to do that?
I can't figure out why on a phone I paid close to $1k for and a service (Verizon) I pay almost $100 a month for that I keep being interrupted by pop up adds. I truly boggle my mind and they pop up when I'm trying to answer my phone, manage my calendar, text messages, etc.
There are adds for games, software, apps, services, you name it I get pop adds for it.
I can't even figure out who's generating them!
Is this happening to others?
What are the ads advertising?
Not happening on either of our Samsungs. Nope.
I'd boot to safe mode, and if you get a no show from there, at least you boot-up system is clean. Doubtful it will be in the startup. Then I'd go into my setup/applications, and go after shutting down any apps running, one by one. It's a PITA, but you will come across it. Wish I knew a more direct method/easier way.
Hopefully someone will come along with a more elegant, and simple method.
mikeacox said:
I am being driven crazy by random pop-adds even when no apps are open.
I contacted Samsung support and they told me apps can pop up add even when apps are closed, maybe their right but I have my doubts. They advised me to put my phone in "Safe Mode", but why should I be forced to do that?
I can't figure out why on a phone I paid close to $1k for and a service (Verizon) I pay almost $100 a month for that I keep being interrupted by pop up adds. I truly boggle my mind and they pop up when I'm trying to answer my phone, manage my calendar, text messages, etc.
There are adds for games, software, apps, services, you name it I get pop adds for it.
I can't even figure out who's generating them!
Is this happening to others?
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Yes your not the only one.
Generally speaking most of the third party apps that you download and install from playstore have adds in them ( free versions ).reading the app description usually down the bottom somewhere will tell you if it has adds. Paying for the apps usually gives some extra features and no adds. Web browsers are another issue to with adds showing up. It could be possible that your provider maybe feeding you adds(not sure about that though).
While safe mode will start your phone without the 3rd party apps it won't tell you which app is causing the the issue and you can't use those apps.
Closing apps may not help as they still tend to run in the background.
Being offline from the internet will help as well unless the apps have adds in the app itself.
Uninstalling apps and reinstalling one by one to find which one(s) have adds can be done but is rather time consuming.
About the only thing you can do to try and stop adds is to install an adblocker app it works for me.
Have a read of this thread for more info on adblocker apps hope it may help you out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-ad-blocking-t3218167
JeffDC said:
What are the ads advertising?
I'd boot to safe mode, and if you get a no show from there, at least you boot-up system is clean. Doubtful it will be in the startup. Then I'd go into my setup/applications, and go after shutting down any apps running, one by one. It's a PITA, but you will come across it. Wish I knew a more direct method/easier way. .
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Thanks for responding.
As I said in my post the adds are a mixed bag. I'll give your suggestions a try.
Thanks again..
spawnlives said:
Yes your not the only one.
Generally speaking most of the third party apps that you download and install from playstore have adds in them ( free versions ).reading the app description usually down the bottom somewhere will tell you if it has adds.Paying for the apps usually gives some extra features and no adds
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Yes, I'm familiar with the way the adds work and I often pay, since it's usually only a few dollars, to be rid of them, and it supports the developer. The odd thing is that this has only recently become a problem. It never happened with my S6, or with any of the phones I had before that.
Web browsers are another issue to with adds showing up. It could be possible that your provider maybe feeding you adds(not sure about that though).]
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I thought about that too and considered calling my provider, but, like you, I'm "not sure about that"
While safe mode will start your phone without the 3rd party apps it won't tell you which app is causing the issue and you can't use those apps.
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That's why I didn't like Samsung Support's solution! But it will reduce the variables to almost zero, so I'll give a try. If I get no adds I'll know it's an app
Closing apps may not help as they still tend to run in the background.
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So I guess they were right.
Being offline from the internet will help as well unless the apps have adds in the app itself.[/QUOTE
Hmm, hadn't thought of that option.
Uninstalling apps and reinstalling one by one to find which one(s) have adds can be done but is rather time consuming.
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I agree! What about running "Force Stop" on them? Never was quite sure what that did though.
About the only thing you can do to try and stop adds is to install an adblocker app it works for me.
Have a read of this thread for more info on adblocker apps hope it may help you out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-ad-blocking-t3218167
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Ok, thanks. I'll check then out.
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What about running "Force Stop" on them? Never was quite sure what that did though.
Force stop will stop or for want of a better term kill the app so it won't keep running in background until you restart the app again.
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mikeacox said:
What about running "Force Stop" on them? Never was quite sure what that did though.
Force stop will stop or for want of a better term kill the app so it won't keep running in background until you restart the app again.
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Thanks, that is good to know. Seems like I could Forced Stop apps that I suspect then just start them later.
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