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[technical] Troubles upgrading?!?

Well i dont have a device so i cant provide much info, but wanted to start a thread of problems and possible solutions...
So i will kick it off.. A friend of mine just messaged me said he acquired a post-production kaiser and wanted to install the ATT rom on it... however when he does it just says could not flash handheld or whatever or its not compatible...it goes to bootloader, gets to around 1% and then stops and phone restarts...

shogunmark said:
Well i dont have a device so i cant provide much info, but wanted to start a thread of problems and possible solutions...
So i will kick it off.. A friend of mine just messaged me said he acquired a post-production kaiser and wanted to install the ATT rom on it... however when he does it just says could not flash handheld or whatever or its not compatible...it goes to bootloader, gets to around 1% and then stops and phone restarts...
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Well I'm probably going to catch a beating for this but has anybody has the BALLS to hard spl the kaiser with the hermes version. I realize saying this is obvious is an understatement but I would venture to say that most people would be to scared to try. I have a solid connection at a cingy cough...cough I mean at&t store that has switched out 8525's for me without question so I may try if I can get my hands on one. The way I see it I have to start contributing at some point LOL

I would guess it is due to a CID lock...
But then again, what do I know

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I would guess it is due to a CID lock...
But then again, what do I know
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if it was cid lock you generally get the "invalid vendor" code.. He specifically stated it wasnt that error... but that was my first thought also... not to mention it should be unlocked at least for the first flash since its HTC branded..
although we did discover that a hard reset is done the same way as the hermes, 2 soft keys + reset ... couldnt find how to put it in bootloader though

It is due to CID lock.
To put in bootloader hold camera + power and reset with stylus.
I got my kaiser today, I'll start to work on a CID unlocker soon

pof said:
It is due to CID lock.
To put in bootloader hold camera + power and reset with stylus.
I got my kaiser today, I'll start to work on a CID unlocker soon
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thanks for the insight pof, i couldnt tell for sure since i dont actually this device yet.. hopefully i can get my hands on one soon..

Newbie sayin please HELP think I bricked my phone :(

Hi guys, first of all I just want to say thank you for this forum.. I ran into it a while back and was inspired to buy a kaiser just because of you guys. I have an iphone right now and I really want to replace it with something that has i don't know user accessible memory, MS office, GPS and the list goes on so I bout an At&t 8925, I got a good price on it and was very happy to finally able to get rid of the iphone
anyway I received the phone a few days ago and proceeded to do a sim unlock to use it with t-mobile after playing with it for a little while, I have already read the wiki, and lot of posts and searches..
I dnloaded this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583 and plugged in the phone made sure activesynk connected and flollowed the instructions...
It went through the first step (hard spl) without a problem and I think the second step went well also. After that I begain the third step and the program froze, I waited for almost an hour just to be sure (windows also said it was 'not responding') I finally had no choice but to restart my computer, (its vista)
Anyway I pressed the power button on the phone and the phone acts like its booting up, I see the at&t screen, then it goes to the 3g screen and It just goes to a blank, black screen. I am still able to connect it to my computer and access the phone. I can access the 'boot loader' red blue green screen
I did a soft reset and tried to reload the unlocker porgram but nothing happens, I am stuck and I havent found out what to do through my searches can you guys help me out I am really new to this phone
I even took the time to downgrade my computer from vista to XP (finding all my drivers was a ***** since my computer was shipped with vista) but I found them one by one and still no luck loading the unlocker
one thing I did notice was that the bootloader screen now says "security unlocked" on top, not sure if It did that before
Thanks for all the help
Thanks

all you have to do to fix your phone is flash a new rom onto it. just open the boot loader and run the ruu and it should fix the problem

that's because you need to install a wm6.1 rom on your phone to use this unlocker. you would have found the answer if you read the thread
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hence why I wrote a message box on Step 2 stating "you may need to upgrade your phone to WM6.1"
****ing idiots.
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oh **** how did i miss that... going to try another rom, i'll let you guys know how it goes
thanks

tman6919 said:
oh **** how did i miss that... going to try another rom, i'll let you guys know how it goes
thanks
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Thread done. Please remember to read through all instructions etc...

Totally & Utterly Confused!!

I know, I know, there are loads of threads like this but I must be lacking something in the brains department as I've spent the last 6 days (since I got my orange tytn) reading this forum trying to understand how to unlock the thing without turning it into a brick and then to flash a rom and radio.
Everything I read on here has people contradicting other people and I end up not having a clue what to do in the end.
HEELLLLP!!!
To confuse matters even more I thought I'd got it sussed and then read about roms having/not having a CUBE!!!! WTF???? I then gave up and started typing this thread...
Here's what I think......and PLEASE correct me or agree with me....
Firstly I seem to be stumbling at the first hurdle since I have an orange tytn and that it seems is the worse to have for some reason???
I thought I'd start off simply by using the kaiser simunlocker to unlock the phone (by jocky) but then came across something called hardspl with all its variances, so OK lets go with the flow and dismiss the hardspl step for now assuming I can do it and read on...
Assuming I could ever find a program that makes a backup of the rom I've got I'd carry on with the unlocker until I get to the step (step 10) that says download the original radio..............this of course doesn't exist (1.27.14.32) so I look for a proggy that downloads the radio to use at this point. Here's where I come unstuck again.........no proggy!!
At this point I must assume that this may not be possible on the model I've got if I want to be sure I can make it original again.
Could someone please confirm this so I can accept the fact that I have to use what came with the phone and save myself a few hours a night getting nowhere...
Sorry for my rant but I'm frustrated that my old brain can't figure this out and giving up seems to be the only option. I completely understand that I'll get flamed for this since I'm a noobie and asking again what numerous otheres have asked but I accept that...
I have great respect for all you guys that can actually understand this on first reading and especially the people who produce this stuff....
Thanks again folks

familyguy said:
I know, I know, there are loads of threads like this but I must be lacking something in the brains department as I've spent the last 6 days (since I got my orange tytn) reading this forum trying to understand how to unlock the thing without turning it into a brick and then to flash a rom and radio.
Everything I read on here has people contradicting other people and I end up not having a clue what to do in the end.
HEELLLLP!!!
To confuse matters even more I thought I'd got it sussed and then read about roms having/not having a CUBE!!!! WTF???? I then gave up and started typing this thread...
Here's what I think......and PLEASE correct me or agree with me....
Firstly I seem to be stumbling at the first hurdle since I have an orange tytn and that it seems is the worse to have for some reason???
I thought I'd start off simply by using the kaiser simunlocker to unlock the phone (by jocky) but then came across something called hardspl with all its variances, so OK lets go with the flow and dismiss the hardspl step for now assuming I can do it and read on...
Assuming I could ever find a program that makes a backup of the rom I've got I'd carry on with the unlocker until I get to the step (step 10) that says download the original radio..............this of course doesn't exist (1.27.14.32) so I look for a proggy that downloads the radio to use at this point. Here's where I come unstuck again.........no proggy!!
At this point I must assume that this may not be possible on the model I've got if I want to be sure I can make it original again.
Could someone please confirm this so I can accept the fact that I have to use what came with the phone and save myself a few hours a night getting nowhere...
Sorry for my rant but I'm frustrated that my old brain can't figure this out and giving up seems to be the only option. I completely understand that I'll get flamed for this since I'm a noobie and asking again what numerous otheres have asked but I accept that...
I have great respect for all you guys that can actually understand this on first reading and especially the people who produce this stuff....
Thanks again folks
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Screw what everyone tells you and start with the link above this thread. Actually the second thread on this page. I think I am one of the oldest around here so its not your "old" brain. _Alex_ has gone to great length to get all of the information you need in one place. Start with his sticky. Good luck.

hello, lots of stuff to learn, first thing, which sounds like you did is read, next hard SPL
see the 2nd sticky in the forum,
go down to kaiser wiki, then rom tools wiki, the 3rd choice, hard SPL cid unlock, read carefully and install, once completed, now your phone is ready to flash roms, (for Kaiser) most come with radio or recommend radios to use and not use. if you have problems with hard spl then use the wiki again to troubleshoot and the first 2 stickys
im out

just sell your kaiser and stick to a razor......lol.....j/k....just listen to p1tater...hes right!!

Hey family guy,
A few months back I got an Orange TYTN II just like you. I read for about a week on here untill I felt confident enough in the steps needed to flash a new ROM. First off I Hard SPL and then went for Dutty V3 ROM which was perfect untill I then felt clever enough to flash a new ROM a few weeks later. Due to not sim unlocking correctly the first time around, upon a new radio being flashed to the phone It locked my SIM.. untill I found out the true way to SIM unlock the phone.
Once you have Hard Spl and SIM unlocked you are well away. I know at this point you are probably feeling pretty confused with all this but believe me it is well worth it in the end.
Oh and FYI.... I can confirm that there is an Orange original Rom on here and a few compatible radios should you ever need to revert back to them for some reason as I had to do this myself at one point when trying to work out where I was having issues with something.
All the best
Chris
P.s are we going to start the "who is the oldest contest yet?"

c.b said:
P.s are we going to start the "who is the oldest contest yet?"
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There's been one around for a while:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325426
but then they do say that memory's the first thing to go, so I'll forgive you!

Confused Stu said:
There's been one around for a while:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325426
but then they do say that memory's the first thing to go, so I'll forgive you!
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PMSL....That's where it went, I knew I had left it somewhere. Now where are my damn glasses I can't read a thing.

Unlock your Orange Kaiser
Here's my experience ..
1. Basically HardSPL your Tytn II to facilitate a cooked ROM that can be 'sim unlocked'
2. Install the Cooked Rom
3. Run the Sim unlock generator code
4. Phone is *UNLOCKED !*
5. Install a ROM of your choice
6. Install a Radio of your choice
Here's the stuff I used:
READ ALL THE POSTS - READ ALL THE POSTS !!
** USE WINDOWS XP OS with Activesync!! **
1. HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device
You will know you got it right when it says either 1.0.HardSPL or 1.0.OliPof.
NOTE: I had problems here and had to force it with JumpSPL1.93 because HardSPL would not install.
2+3. I used Jockyw2001 Kaiser Sim Unlocker v0.1
NOTE:
> The file has three steps ... 1, 2 & 3 so you can't go wrong:
> Step 1. Installs the 'patched' Radio
> Step 2. Generates the key code for unlocking (on your PC) which you enter into the Tytn.
> Step 3. Installs a replacement radio
4. My code was a series of numbers that I had to type into the screen.
5+6. Read my signature for what I'm using today (it changes)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
All instructions are on screen with prompts.
I sweated for days before I chanced it and it took me about 15 minutes from start to finish but you end up with a pucka HTC looking Tytn II and not the Orange variant.
A few important pointers from the bit I learned:
1. You cannot do this on a WM6.1 Tytn II, you have to go down to WM6.0 - As mine was WM6.0 it didn't matter.
2. Vista is a ***** for doing this and you have enough things to think about without the PC's OS .. USE XP !!
3. HardSPL once done, the Tytn II is clear for all future ROM + Radio upgrades.
4. Bootloader = Power button + Camera button + Reset with stylus
5. Hard reset is Left softkey + Right softkey + Reset with stylus
6. Always Hard reset after blowing any new ROM before using.
7. Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything.
8. Remove the SD card before you begin.
9. The 'Cube' isn't always included in the ROM's - I use this CUBE
10. Most Roms come with their own 'loader' called 'Kaiser_RUU' so you don't have too much to think about.
11. Stick your Radio and ROM information in your signature, you never know when you may want to go back and forget what you had installed ;-)
12. Installing a new radio on a phone that isn't SIM Unlocked will result in a LOCKED TO ALL NETWORKS phone - So SIM Unlock it !!
Enjoy
PS. Let me know if you can't find the files you need.
SIM Unlocker Software HERE
PPS. Before you unlock your Orange can you pop over to this thread and answer Rabdo's question - Thanks.

ajs007 said:
Here's my experience ..
12. Installing a new radio on a phone that isn't SIM Unlocked will result in a LOCKED TO ALL NETWORKS phone - So SIM Unlock it !!
this thread and answer Rabdo's question - Thanks.
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Hey I have a question about this point - I've never SIM unlocked my phone and have flashed about 6 ROMS, and various radios and never had a problem. All I did was run hardSpl, then started flashing.
So what I'm asking is are you sure of this point?

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This is a useless thread. Mods please close this thread.

P1Tater said:
Screw what everyone tells you and start with the link above this thread. Actually the second thread on this page. I think I am one of the oldest around here so its not your "old" brain. _Alex_ has gone to great length to get all of the information you need in one place. Start with his sticky. Good luck.
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Oldest around here your a Matt Serra fan I swore you were like 25.
-McMex

mattarse said:
Hey I have a question about this point - I've never SIM unlocked my phone and have flashed about 6 ROMS, and various radios and never had a problem. All I did was run hardSpl, then started flashing.
So what I'm asking is are you sure of this point?
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I have heard before that Orange Kaiser's are a little different to other networks and need to be SIM-unlocked before they can use a different network.

Confused Stu said:
I have heard before that Orange Kaiser's are a little different to other networks and need to be SIM-unlocked before they can use a different network.
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Ok thanks, that would make sense then.
Cheers!

Hi all and thanks for your comments advice and encouragement..........just quickly looking at the old age thread I am one of the oldest at 47!!
The thing about this thread is that it's happened again and there are only 13 posts!!
There's been contradiction about the orange tytn above. Some peeps say it needs to be unlocked (and that they've done it but don't mention what radio they're using), and some peeps say it doesn't need to be unlocked!?!?!?
There is my confusion and my hesitation to do anything in case I lock the sim out completely. That I can't have as I need the phone at all times to get in toch with my kids (humans or small goats depending on what your state of mind is!).
Here is what I think I should do...
1.) Use hardspl to unlock something (not sure what at the mo) so that I am able to flash
2.) Unlock the SIM lock using kaiser sim unlocker (or not! jury is out, but not sure which radio to use so scared of brickifying it)
3.) Flash my choice of rom (but not sure if I have to then flash a radio or if the radio is included in the rom)
That's about all my poor tired OLD.......VERY OLD brains can figure out and there are enough 'I don't knows' there to stop me in my tracks...
I'll keep reading though but in the meantime I could do with gleaning info from someone who is in the UK on orange and maybe has a recent model...
TTFN

familyguy said:
I'll keep reading though but in the meantime I could do with gleaning info from someone who is in the UK on orange and maybe has a recent model...
TTFN
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I'll be 48 in August, so it's not just the Youngsters who play with the 'phones.
(Does that make me the oldest ?)
I bought the TytnII from the Orange Shop in Leicester just before Christmas but didn't have the bottle to unlock it for months ... Main reason was the unlocking 4 months ago was £20 !! and i didn't want to brick it either.
I spotted someone selling the unlocking service on ebay about a month ago, so I knew someone had cracked it here (and some cheapskate was selling the service.)
Feel free to private message me, if you need to we can talk it through over the phone.
Alan.

familyguy said:
There's been contradiction about the orange tytn above. Some peeps say it needs to be unlocked (and that they've done it but don't mention what radio they're using), and some peeps say it doesn't need to be unlocked!?!?!?
TTFN
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I may have added to the confusion - I do not have an Orange phone, adn was questioning whether you need to SIM unlock the phone b/c I hadn't. Later it was pointed out that Orange phones may be different and need to be.
mattarse

Greetings to all...........and a damn good weekend to everyone!!
mattarse you simply added to the confusion in my mind............for other it was probably very clear
ajs007, I will PM you and perhaps a quick chat to get me up and running would be great!
One thing I do know though..........when (yes, I've gone from if to when) I get more knowledable about this I'll be one of the first peeps there to help anyone out if I can!

After a long chat with ajs007 (for which I am very grateful) I felt I had the confidence to go ahead and install hardspl using the jumpspl route.
My tale of woe follows as it was unsuccessful every time...
I followed jockys instructions,
1a. download the 5 attached files
1b. connect your PC to phone with a USB cable
2. REMOVE SIM and SD CARDS !!
3. copy JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe to your device and run it (make sure the USB cable is still connected). If you still get a white screen then reset your device and now try JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe
4. after a few seconds "USB" appears on the phone display
5. unplug and replug the usb cable
6. deselect "Allow USB connections" in Activesync connection settings
7. now flash hardSPL (run KaiserCustomRUU.exe from flash-hardSPL.zip on your PC)
After step 3 (for both 1.56 & 1.93) I get the tri-colour screen (not mentioned above) shortly followed by 'USB' on the white at the bottom (step 4).
(I guess this makes it a quad colour screen instead of
I then did step 5 and step 6 as above and moved on to step 7 to run kaisercustomruu.exe.
I then get a screen which says verifying phone settings and a further screen which has 'current info about your pda phone:' and lists nothing!!
Another line that says 'image version:' and has nothing listed and yet another line that says 'select from below:' and has nothing next to it!?!?!?!?
There is a button that says update the current ROM version but I dare not press it if it is going to update with nothing!!!??
On top of all that I read contradiction again where the instructions above state that you must deselect 'allow usb connections' yet when you run kaisercustomruu.exe it states that you must have an activesync connection....
I'm now really confused and convinced it just isn't to be. Sorry Alan it did sound so easy when you explained it but there must be something different about my phone.........I'm going to throw myself or the phone or both of us off a tall building.............now Im totally depressed
Exit stage left feeling very sorry for oneself...

Looks like everything was A.O.K. for flashing..
IMPORTANT ** You didn't say if you had SPL xxx PoF on the Tri Screen ?
I didn't have any reference to a ROM on the install screen but it worked, probably because the ROM was in the same directory and it didn't need to look anywhere ....
I think (but I'm not 100%) the activesync USB connection is an XP v. Vista thing, and you do need USB connection in XP.
In summary, if you did have SPL xxx PoF on the Tri Screen you should be good to go.

From totally & utterly confused to successfully running Dutty's 6.1!!
Lots of bonus points and many thanks to AJS007 for allowing me to bother him with all my questions and lack of confidence.
Here's my tale...
Firstly I tried to install hardspl running from my PC and a USB cable but I got the infamous white screen!
I then followed the instructions for using jumpspl version 1.53 (for some reason the instructions I read didn't say remove and re-inset battery therefore I didn't do that bit!).
I got to the bit where 'USB' appears on the screen and pulled out the cable then re-inserted it. I have no idea why you do this but I did it. When I pulled the cable out the screen had 'Serial' on it and when I re-inserted it, it went back to 'USB'
I carried on to the next step and unchecked the 'Allow USB Connections' in Activesync (again I have no idea why you do this) and went on to run 'kaisercustomruu.exe'
Here's where I hesitated and got stuck. The program started on the PC and got to a point where it interrogated the phone, shortly after that I was presented with another screen that waited for my input ready to 'Update' but I hesitated since there was no information listed under 'Image Version:' and 'Select from below:'.
I wasn't sure what to do here and cancelled the whole thing in case I bricked it
After further investigation, more reading and speaking once again to my mentor AJS007, I decided to go ahead and throw what caution I had left to the wind, so I pressed the 'Update' button.
After a few more screens I got to the point of no return and gritted my teeth.........nothing happened........I disconnected and re-connected and tried again..........nothing again............after a third time though (and I don't know why) it burst into life and I got the 'percentage screen'.
At this point I did think I had trashed it but plodded on regardless in the hope that I hadn't and everything would be OK. Thankfully it was and on entering the bootloader screen I saw 'olipof'..............all was well
This gave me the extra bit of confidence I needed to go through the unlock procedure and then on to flash Dutty's latest. I did get to the point where I had to enter the unlock code and it took 2 attempts to accept it for some reason........I can't explain that either!!
It was all in all a stressful time and involved a lot of pacing up and down when the ROM was flashing, taking what seemed to be hours to complete and slowing down to an almost stop at certain points, but in the end it did all work and I am now left with a transformed T2, but with the following little problems,
1.) My bluetooth headset has to be paired every time I want to use it!
2.) When I go to re-calibrate the screen (with the cross hair) it freezes up and I have to do a soft reset.
3.) My screen 'tap' noises have disappeared (except when I press the 'start' button)
I haven't tried to reflash the radio to see if that will take care of the bluetooth issue yet but I intend to do so in the next few days.
For anyone that's interested I'm using the radio ROM that was included in Dutty's latest build (WM6.1_5.2.19209) which is 1.58.16.27.
Finally, once again my thanks to AJS007 who went to the trouble of helping me in my few hours of need.
If anyone new here would like to ask me any questions about my noobie experience please don't hold back!!

HTC Touch Pro 2 Brick

Dear Folks at XDA,
I would like to ask for you help with my HTC Touch Pro 2. I recently tried to update it to the new AthineOS CHome TF3D WM6.5 Manila ROM v 1.0 and unfortunately I failed.
The problem is that my phone now freezes at the black startup screen with the Touch Pro 2 logo and the red codes at the bottom.
I've flashed the ROM several times before and never got this issue.
Due to the fact that the phone doesn't finish the boot-up and I thus I can't get ActiveSync I'm afraid I messed up my phone for ever.
Please someone tell me I got a way out of this, I'd appreciate it very much.
Greetz,
SjonSjon

umm.... I don't think you can change the firmware just yet on the CDMA version of the phone... if you used a HardSPL that's available in the Rhodium forums then you probably used a GSM specific ROM on your CDMA phone... not sure what to tell you other than making sure you read the CDMA forum before trying something so risky. Best solution, unless someone knows how fix your phone in it's current state, is to toss it under your car and run it over and try to cash in on the insurance.

Problem solved!
Hey guys,
I got my HTC Touch Pro 2 functioning again. Thought I'd post the solution for other people who might encounter the same issue. I don't exactly know what the problem was. I'm assuming a non-compatible ROM or something, but after opening 30 tabs in my browser and reading my eyes out I found that if you put your phone into bootloader mode and connect it through usb to your computer you can flash the ROM without using activesync.
So I turned my phone off, pressed the power and Volume Down button simultaneously and then used the Stock ROM upgrade software from HTC to restore my phone
This solution beats the hell outta "run it over and try to cash in on the insurance" if I say so myself!
Greetz,
SjonSjon

I am glad you have recovered the beautiful device; and thanks for sharing a working solution.

sjonsjon said:
Hey guys,
I got my HTC Touch Pro 2 functioning again. Thought I'd post the solution for other people who might encounter the same issue. I don't exactly know what the problem was. I'm assuming a non-compatible ROM or something, but after opening 30 tabs in my browser and reading my eyes out I found that if you put your phone into bootloader mode and connect it through usb to your computer you can flash the ROM without using activesync.
So I turned my phone off, pressed the power and Volume Down button simultaneously and then used the Stock ROM upgrade software from HTC to restore my phone
This solution beats the hell outta "run it over and try to cash in on the insurance" if I say so myself!
Greetz,
SjonSjon
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Good job!

big thanks for solution.

You just saved my life!!!

Don't get our hopes up! This is the wrong forum. CDMA TP2s can't be flashed at all yet.

This was a life saver post so a quick bump for anyone that needs it.
I unlocked my CDMA phone, installed a few roms -- decided to go back to my stock rom default (which was Telus) -- reinstalled and bam -- bricked.

Well, technically it's not a brick if you can get back into the bootloader to reflash. So no worries everyone. If everyone reads instructions well enough we should hopefully see zero "real" bricks. Or at most, just enough to only build bbq pit rather than a house.

I think my phone is truly bricked
I was unlocking my phone (the HTC Touch Pro 2 <Verizon>) and I was using a Diamond unlocker (I thought it would be fine), but during the process there was a connection error and now my phone seems to be bricked. I can't get it to even turn on, get to a bootloader screen, or anything even remotely close.
The one odd thing that it does though, is when I connect it to my computer, it pops up and my computer recognizes there is a device there. In my Device Manager there is an unknown device called: Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM. I have tried every combination of two buttons, including holding down the reset button with all of them, but nothing gets me anywhere.
If anyone could help, I would really appreciate it. Let me know if you need any more information.

my cdma is rebooting endlessley i reflashed stock rom and evorything. it seriously dosnt want to work. its most sadness... i am cashing in on the insurence. but they are going to send me a refurb..
spend 600$ on a phone got inurnce i hope the used one dosnt fail me.

Esazi said:
I was unlocking my phone (the HTC Touch Pro 2 <Verizon>) and I was using a Diamond unlocker (I thought it would be fine), but during the process there was a connection error and now my phone seems to be bricked. I can't get it to even turn on, get to a bootloader screen, or anything even remotely close.
The one odd thing that it does though, is when I connect it to my computer, it pops up and my computer recognizes there is a device there. In my Device Manager there is an unknown device called: Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM. I have tried every combination of two buttons, including holding down the reset button with all of them, but nothing gets me anywhere.
If anyone could help, I would really appreciate it. Let me know if you need any more information.
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I did the same exact thing to mt TP2. Same outcome.

We have to learn somehow....
That stinks man. If you did, then your phone is truly bricked. You are going to have to get a replacement or switch to another phone because there is nothing you can do to get it going again. I tried everything possible and eventually just ordered a replacement. I have it now and it's working beautifully, but needless to say I am a little scared away from any more unlocking or flashing for a while.

If you read carefully you dont have to be scared of flashing
I was a noob some time ago but before doing anything I took care of reading and understanding before doing nothing.
lesson learned
By now I have flashed more than 60 times on 3 diferent HTC devices and all were a succes
Hope you get your TP2 working again!

I hope I can get there
Someday I hope to be a flashing expert, but until then I will take it slow and read carefully. Thanks for your encouragement. When I actually get money to pay for the unlock for my TP2, I will let you know how flashing goes.

How do you keep the phone in bootloader? Mine goes right to the press volume instuction screen. Other than that I'm stuck on the black name screen,also my usb will not register in device manager. This was my first try at flashing.

gadgetgirl28 said:
You just saved my life!!!
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Holy hell, you're not lying. Thanks for coming back to post your solution!
This post saved me at least a few hours of frustration and ever worsening decision making.

So it's totally true???
this situation hasn't solution;
I was unlocking my phone (the HTC Touch Pro 2 <SPRINT>) and I was using a Diamond unlocker (I thought it would be fine), but during the process there was a connection error and now my phone seems to be bricked. I can't get it to even turn on, get to a bootloader screen, or anything even remotely close.
The one odd thing that it does though, is when I connect it to my computer, it pops up and my computer recognizes there is a device there. In my Device Manager there is an unknown device called: Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM. I have tried every combination of two buttons, including holding down the reset button with all of them, but nothing gets me anywhere.
If anyone could help, AND PLEASE somebody tell me , that it can be save it
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please help
i have the same problem. is there a way to save my phone?

bricked HTC

I think i bricked theHTC fuze that i bought yesterday I tried to do the Hard SPL but i was getting an error message, error 244 invalid model ID so i used a program to change the .nbh (a radio file) file so it bypassed the error message (by changing DIAM***** to RAPH*****, since my phone is raphael). I even got a message that the process was successfully finished but it turned out not to be true because the screen went black and now i cant turn it on, and i cant even get it into the bootloader mode. If i could at least get it into to tricolor screen i would be able to flash back the original radio and that would solve the problem because ive already done it a few times. Please let me know if there is a chance to get it fixed, even i had to send it to a professional but as long as it could be fixed, im really desperate. Thank you
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You only get that error when your trying to flash the wrong device... Did you use the file "Raphael_CDMA_HSPL_037.zip" to unlock..?? Sound's to me like you used the Diamond Unlocker... Shouldn't be that hard to fix, hold the volume down button, power button, and insert stylus into the hole on the bottom to soft reset to try and open up BL screen... LMK if that works...

Why didn't you just follow the instructions for flashing? You aren't even security unlocked, so why were you trying to flash a diamond radio? That makes no sense at all. Also, if you are security unlocked, you need to get diamond radios from the raphael forum, because they're patched to flash onto raphaels. It sounds like you got yours from the diamond forum, which is the wrong way to go (especially if it's a cdma radio-that would kill your phone for sure). Did hard spl work? If not, why on earth did you forge ahead? YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU FLASH HARD SPL!!!!!
Try pulling the battery for a while, the see if it will start up. It's hard to tell what you did, but since you went down such a wrong path, I wouldn't be surprised if the phone is a giant brick.

komar808 said:
by changing DIAM***** to RAPH*****
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this should've been clue #1. If you have to change it because of the device ID, it's the wrong thing to flash. The Diamond and Raph look alike on the front, but are almost totally incompatible ROM-wise.,
I even got a message that the process was successfully finished but it turned out not to be true because the screen went black and now i cant turn it on
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You are wrong there, it did flash successfully. The tools worked EXACTLY as they were designed. It's not the tools fault
Please let me know if there is a chance to get it fixed, even i had to send it to a professional but as long as it could be fixed, im really desperate. Thank you
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You might contact olipro, I hear he's got the "magic touch" with devices. No guarantees. I've heard that it's almost impossible to unbrick a device like this after an incorrect/bad radio flash.
I really hope it works out for you. Read dude, the stickies are everywhere for your benefit. Best of luck to you.
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I run into things like this DAILY. Been a service rep for over 30 years. If people would ONLY follow the instructions, I'd have less follow up work to do.
Unfortunately they make these phones too easy to hack (good for us) but sometimes noobs make it hard for the rest of us.

lol
This is what happens when you don't follow directions, don't read enough, and are monkeying with things you obviously shouldn't be monkeying with.
When you got the device ID error, you should have stopped right there and thought "gee, maybe I should go over these instructions again and see what I did wrong" instead of trying to force a radio that will never work on your device.
Hope you can get it in to bootloader, otherwise enjoy your shiny new brick.

Well, hope you get it solved and otherwise you learned a lesson in a very expensive way I'm afraid...

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Why didn't you just follow the instructions for flashing? You aren't even security unlocked, so why were you trying to flash a diamond radio? That makes no sense at all. Also, if you are security unlocked, you need to get diamond radios from the raphael forum, because they're patched to flash onto raphaels. It sounds like you got yours from the diamond forum, which is the wrong way to go (especially if it's a cdma radio-that would kill your phone for sure). Did hard spl work? If not, why on earth did you forge ahead? YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU FLASH HARD SPL!!!!!
Try pulling the battery for a while, the see if it will start up. It's hard to tell what you did, but since you went down such a wrong path, I wouldn't be surprised if the phone is a giant brick.
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I did hard SPL first with 1.90OliNex (because the one that was in the unlocking package originally didnt work beacuse of the invalid model ID message) and i thought thats what security unlocked the phone and then i tried to put a costume radio that would allow me to unlock the phone but the radio wouldnt flash. So i went back to the SPL from the unlocking package (HARD SPL 1.34) and i changed the .nbh file from DIAM***** to RAPH***** and then it bricked... The reason i did this is beacuse of the following link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-427305.html
I just hope something can still be done otherwise this is just a good warning for all others not to do this. Thank you for the replies

jdmsohc22 said:
You only get that error when your trying to flash the wrong device... Did you use the file "Raphael_CDMA_HSPL_037.zip" to unlock..?? Sound's to me like you used the Diamond Unlocker... Shouldn't be that hard to fix, hold the volume down button, power button, and insert stylus into the hole on the bottom to soft reset to try and open up BL screen... LMK if that works...
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No I used a gsm unlocker, HARD SPL 1.34... There is a more detailed explanation in the post above

Hard spl 1.34 is either cdma or diamond gsm-I don't know which. I do know that it will brick a gsm touch pro. Flashing the wrong hard spl is the guaranteed way to kill a phone. If you actually flashed it, the phone is dead. Try pulling the battery for a day.
You need to run the gsm raphael unlocker to security unlock your phone. You need to pay for it, too. Hard spl doesn't security unlock your phone-it only CID unlocks it.

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Hard spl 1.34 is either cdma or diamond gsm-I don't know which. I do know that it will brick a gsm touch pro. Flashing the wrong hard spl is the guaranteed way to kill a phone. If you actually flashed it, the phone is dead. Try pulling the battery for a day.
You need to run the gsm raphael unlocker to security unlock your phone. You need to pay for it, too. Hard spl doesn't security unlock your phone-it only CID unlocks it.
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I used the GSM one. Ok i just pulled out the battery and hopefully the phone allows to get it into the bootloader...

Worst case scenario, smash it and pay $100 for ur insured replacement... That is, if you have insurance...

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Worst case scenario, smash it and pay $100 for ur insured replacement... That is, if you have insurance...
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Hahahaha !
Good one !
But dude no offense but u deserve a black shiny 600$ brick because YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ! THEY ARE THERE TO BE FOLLOWED UNLESS AND UNTIL YOU ARE SO RICH THAT YOU CAN WASTE 600$ OR YOU ARE A SUPER CHEF AT XDA AND ARE SURE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
Anyways Best of luck hope you can unbrick it !
otherwise smash it
Bye.

LoL yeah a $600 paper weight may also come in handy..?? Or like previously stated, take your anger out on it for not doing it right the first time lol...

I now this might be a little too late to answer,but i want to give my two cents to this brick posts. Maybe someone will need it. This is for anyone that might be where I was for over 2 weeks. I though my Fuze/ Raphael / touch pro was history. My phone will get into restart loops when ever he wanted. It was very anoying. After replacing every possible software from Radio, Hard Spl, different rooms and even start up splashes, and almost getting "ORD" in the process. I finally took my phone apart, since there was no warranty. Once open I saw that the reset bottom inside was too close to the rubber reset bottom from outside. Guess what ?? That as all it was..... Good luck to all. : )