Recording calls - General Topics

Hello staff, I am using resco audio recorder/vito audio notes to record calls, but he writes only if the phone is in live voice, Otherwise only saves my voice.
Is there any way it direct record of internal speaker?

NO!
Search the Forums and you will find this was answered every weak with a No. Or a "kinda working" solution.

JimmyMcGee said:
NO!
Search the Forums and you will find this was answered every weak with a No. Or a "kinda working" solution.
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Hemmm... This is no more the right answer...
I'm testing the new version of Vito Audio Notes "Touch", and it records all the calls, no matter if in live voice or not

glaucos said:
Hemmm... This is no more the right answer...
I'm testing the new version of Vito Audio Notes "Touch", and it records all the calls, no matter if in live voice or not
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YAY! SWEET! let us know how that turns out.

JimmyMcGee said:
[...] how that turns out.
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Sorry, but I don't understand the meaning of this sentence... can you repeat it with other words?

Hi
Vito Notes is excellent for recording calls, however there is one down side.
When it records it doesnt record tha person you are calling voice very well. However im using the trial, so maybe thats different once its bought.
Ill buy it and keep you lot updated

glaucos said:
Hemmm... This is no more the right answer...
I'm testing the new version of Vito Audio Notes "Touch", and it records all the calls, no matter if in live voice or not
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Vito Audio Notes "Touch", doesn't actually record the call from the phone, it can be set to auto activate the speaker phone which leads to a sccessfull recording, how ever if you turn off the speakerphone option, your back to the issue of only one sideof the call being recorded.
Sorry if this shoots down the "live voice or not" expectations.

guys, do read my related articles in the wiki instead of spreading false info...

Sorry, but I'm not spreading false info...
With Vito Audio Notes Touch, when I Listen to a recorded call, I can hear both the voices, even if do not use the function of auto activate the speaker phone
If you are sure that Vito can't record all the voices, I have to think that the volume of my Eten X800 is so loud that it can be recorded from my microphone.
In this case, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding

glaucos said:
Sorry, but I'm not spreading false info...
With Vito Audio Notes Touch, when I Listen to a recorded call, I can hear both the voices, even if do not use the function of auto activate the speaker phone
If you are sure that Vito can't record all the voices, I have to think that the volume of my Eten X800 is so loud that it can be recorded from my microphone.
In this case, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding
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It's puirely dependent on the actual phone model, NOT the software. That is, something that works on, say, an s310 or an Advantage, won't work on the Kaiser, the Wizard or the Universal.
See http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Audio and call recording, answering machines ; in there, I've explained this all.

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Call Recorder for Windows Mobile ???

Hi supporters, has anyone got Call Recorder or some similar application for Windows mobile, Or is it virtually impossible, b'cuz of the hardware incompatibility ?
There must have been discussion on this before as well, i am sure..
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People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
has anyone got Call Recorder or some similar application for Windows mobile, Or is it virtually impossible, b'cuz of the hardware incompatibility ?
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Resco AudioRecorder and Vito Audio Notes will do what you want to do, if your device supports the feature.
On my HTC Wizard the only way to record both sides of the conversation is to turn the speaker-phone on.
The Vito programmers have included a function in Audio Notes that turns on the speaker-phone automatically when you answer a call. I would assume that they did this because they found no other way around the problem on some devices.
Hope this helps.
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Hi supporters, has anyone got Call Recorder or some similar application for Windows mobile, Or is it virtually impossible, b'cuz of the hardware incompatibility ?
There must have been discussion on this before as well, i am sure..
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OMG use search ffs theres a thread as long as your arm (perhaps even longer) where the slickest programmers in the know from XDA dev try everything (and i mean everything) to get this to work then outline the reasons why it wont.
This Helped, Man
SUMM0NER said:
Resco AudioRecorder and Vito Audio Notes will do what you want to do, if your device supports the feature.
On my HTC Wizard the only way to record both sides of the conversation is to turn the speaker-phone on.
The Vito programmers have included a function in Audio Notes that turns on the speaker-phone automatically when you answer a call. I would assume that they did this because they found no other way around the problem on some devices.
Hope this helps.
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THIS HELPED, MAN
hey buddy, thank u so much for lettin' me know about Vito Audio Notes, it works perfectly fine with my phone, though it needs the speakerphone to be on, while recording. But Something is always better than Nothing. I can compromise on that. And unlike Nokia, there are no more continuous annoyin' beeps at the background, while recording. Thanks again, mate.
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try the livePVR
rtakeo said:
try the livePVR
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Where can i find it ?
Phone call recording will not work on Palm treo 700w and 750v
Phone call PVR
Phone call PVR is the personal voice recorder mobile application that provides real time phone call recording using Automatic or Manual capture modes. It allows you to record your mobile phone conversations, either by recording all phone calls automatically, or by recording the next call you make.
Note:- Due to hardware limitation, when using LivePVR for phone call recording, the call must be made in speaker mode on some Windows Mobile Pocket PC devices for LivePVR to record the voice at theother end. Otherwise, the voice of the party at the other end may not be clear in the recorded file. Please check the trial version before making a purchase if this is not acceptable to you.
Phone call recording will not work on Palm treo 700w and 750v
http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmppc.htm
mVoice disappoints too
I was hoping that mVoice will provide a solution but it disappointed me.
http://www.motionapps.com/product/mvoice/index.jsp
Here is an extract from mVoice manual:
"For Treo devices direct phone call recording is not available because of the hardware limitations of Treo devices. However phone calls can be recorded on Treo 750/700w having the following in mind:
− If you are using a headset you will be able to record only your voice - sound from the other side of a call cannot reach mVoice since Treo directs it to the ear speaker.
− If you are not using a headset, sound from both participants of the phone call will be recorded, but to make it usable you should turn on the "Speaker Phone" option after answering the call."
Record calls with Wizard without speaker phone
I can record calls getting both sides of the conversation without having to be in speaker phone mode. using my Wizard. Button 4, just hold it down and it will record as long as you hold the button down. I have that button (4) assigned to Record.
anothersmith said:
I can record calls getting both sides of the conversation without having to be in speaker phone mode. using my Wizard. Button 4, just hold it down and it will record as long as you hold the button down. I have that button (4) assigned to Record.
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Button? what button? Do you mean function + 4 on the keyboard? Or the touchscreen "4" button?
Thanks,
-TheGooch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493118 has been known to work on other devices and there is a thread with other devices in the Dev section.
Good luck
Not sure about the poll? 2 x non HTC devices
Install this cab file, and install any voice record software, it will record two-way conversation. This cab was created by Mskip, even though I found the reg file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493118
nick_martin said:
Install this cab file, and install any voice record software, it will record two-way conversation. This cab was created by Mskip, even though I found the reg file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493118
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Do you have a link for the voice recorder app (in .cab form) that comes with the phone.. the one that starts recording when you hold down Button 4. I installed a custom ROM that didn't come with this app.
Thanks,
-Adam
WM Sound Recorder
I use WM Sound Recorder to record my HTC Touch Pro phone conversation. It could record outgoing and incoming calls automatically. maybe you could have atry.
In short
Call recording and answering machine softwares are available , but needs speaker phone to be on.
This is hardware limitation with HTC but works with some other windows mobile devices like O2.
If works with HTC please let us all know.
Recording for mobile phone users
While this thread is old, a Google search for the topic finds it, so I'll comment. I've always found a voice recorder useful, for general non-phone, landline, and mobile phone use (particularly for recording otherwise undocumented customer (dis)services promises). A Nokia 9500 phone with Psiloc Extended Recorder software gave me most of what I wanted when out and about, but landline recording was problematical. Windows Mobile is more difficult.
But I've found a solution which is pretty much perfect for me. It sounds theoretically awful, like recording music with a microphone in front of the radio, but works extremely well, with both sides of the conversation recording at similar sound levels and without extraneous noise. After buying a "cheap" Chinese recorder which plugged into the landline connection, that ticked the right boxes and worked as specified, but didn't do the job well in practice, I got the right equipment: a tiny voice recorder (95x37x10mm, 47g) and a microphone that sits in your ear, underneath the phone speaker or a hands-free (but not in-ear) headset. Olympus does lots of suitable recorders; I found the WS-210S 2nd-hand & cheap. The unique bit is the Olympus telephone pickup TP-7. It will record with the pickup from any phone you use (eg payphone), and of course from its microphone. The lowest-quality audio (138 hours in 512k! - don't go overboard for massive memory) is 100% fine for understandable speech, voice-activated recording, and low microphone sensitivity for phone or close dictation, high for general conversation. Makes small (60kB/min) time-stamped WMA recordings with useless file names which I move and rename ASAP to a computer into which I have USB-plugged the recorder.
This is so much more versatile than mobile-only software, for about 37 GBP (but no need to buy new version when I change phone) and a small gadget and cable to carry, that I have happily given up the complications of software. I use the mobile phone (and other people's phones) without a headset, and the landline with a Plantronics over-ear headset.
HTH, pol08
PS problems with Chinese voice recorder: needed fiddly settings every time used, didn't start in right mode; voice-activated recording didn't work with compression, and uncompressed file was huge .WAV; compressed file format was non-standard .ACT - could play only with Windows software supplied, but no editing to trim silences; no timestamp.
Since there are recent comments on this thread....
Thus typing-in....ACR call recorded has worked for me without the speaker mode also..
It works smoothly...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472

Recorder access to incoming voice

having a poor memory, I have become accustomed on my Treo to being able to record a caller if they are trying to give me info that I need later (with their knowledge). The AT&T tilt has blocked access to incoming voice for 3rd party recorders to use. Can anyone develop a fix?
there are some apps out there that do record incoming calls Vito audio notes is one of them also just google search and try out demo of different apps. many have said it can be done but i use vito audio notes all the time and it works great
I haven't kept up on the topic, but if I remember correctly there were a few threads about this (use the search) and I'm pretty sure the conclusion was that it was impossible to get access to the mic during a call.
austinsnyc said:
there are some apps out there that do record incoming calls Vito audio notes is one of them also just google search and try out demo of different apps. many have said it can be done but i use vito audio notes all the time and it works great
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met3ora said:
I haven't kept up on the topic, but if I remember correctly there were a few threads about this (use the search) and I'm pretty sure the conclusion was that it was impossible to get access to the mic during a call.
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One of you is not telling the truth.
Looking for hack
The AT&T tilt has blocked access to incoming voice for 3rd party recorders to use. I have tried all the recording software, none of them record the incoming voice. One of the s/w vendors even says that the hardware for incoming voice is not accessable for the TILT. I was hoping that someone might know how to hack the phone to make it work.
Any help would be great. And I have seen that alot of the users would be interested in this.
Have you tried Vito Audio notes?
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One of you is not telling the truth.
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Have you tried Vito Audio notes?
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Yes, and it doesn't record the other party either.
I don't mean to get into the middle of this... but they should all work if you enable the speaker phone... maybe not crystal clear, but it should record...
badbert said:
I don't mean to get into the middle of this... but they should all work if you enable the speaker phone... maybe not crystal clear, but it should record...
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Yes, this is the only known solution. It is not very the clearest, but get's the job done. This is my LARGEST complaint with the TILT coming from the old Sony T616 a long time ago.
I can record while using the headset and speakerphone (tested with VITO audio notes) but not with just the phone (it records my voice but not the caller).
I guess this is a hardware issue and is probably hard to fix. I guess you have to make a virtual "audio cable" where you can set the phone to use the speaker then route the signal back (somehow)???
TADAAAAA!!!:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485783

Call recording

Can U do call recording on touch pro? nearly all HTC phones cannot record calls, even with third party software. I remember that when I changed my ROM on my Jasjar from a phone dealer, Call Recording worked but speaker phone stopped. Are there any registry settings?
I'm curious to know this as well. None of my PPC phones were able to do this but my OLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDD Nextel i930 phone was able to and it was based off of the old Windows Mobile CE platform, so I don't see why the Raphael can't handle the task...
Maybe because call recording is illegal in many countries...
Try this:
Resco Audio Recorder
It can record all Your calls automatically.
It can do. But it depends on the hardware whether or not it records both sides of the call. This was not the case with the tytn ii. And unfortunately I dont hold out hope for the raph.
Thats why I keep my old SE phone.
The "illegal" argument is pretty thin, its 100% legal if you inform the person you are talking with that you are recording.
This is a useful tool for some people, and its just silly that HTC refuse to implement this feature.
I use VITO Audionotes on my kaiser right now and the calll recording works pretty well, especially on speaker phone.
In Sweden the law says that if one of the callers is aware that the call is recorded, then it's legal. If none of the callers know, then it is illegal.
" if one of the callers is aware that the call is recorded, then it's legal. If none of the callers know, then it is illegal."
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sounds odd should that not be if both callers know it's legal
but if one dont it's illegal ?
if none of them know then who's doing the recording?
apart from the operators and secret service ?
I use VITO Audionotes on my kaiser right now and the calll recording works pretty well, especially on speaker phone.
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Really? How did you get it to work? Just tried it and I get no sound at all. Haven't tried speakerphone mode, I imagine that would work, but it is kind of useless.
Great news for you guys interested in recording calls (personally I'm not) There WILL definitely be a recording feature built into the Touch Pro stock ROM
Check out the "Privacy Restrictions" on the first page of the Quick Start Guide!
...but that means call recording is possible?
Sounds like it!
Try the successor to VITO AudioNotes on http://iwindowsmobile.com/mobile-audio-recorder.html Audio Notes Touch

Voice Dialing with Fuze

Does anyone know if you can activate voice dialing over bluetooth? I know that there were several hacks that were necessary to get it to work over my 8525.
Thanks!
Yes you can. It's called Voice Commander. It should be on by default. You can say stuff like "call john smith" or "dial 123-4567" pretty cool.
Voice Command with Bluetooth Headset??
I have an old bluetooth headset, but it doesn't seem to work with Voice Command. Does anyone have one working?
Yes, i have used vc with 3 different headsets. One moto, one jawboneII, one plantronics, and one stereo sony brt50 with a2dp. All worked well when pressing the command button on the hs. I've noticed it doesn't work quite well using phone for the command or to answer when cal comes in. The audio drops or doesn't connect.
Hmm, I have an old Moto H505 from work and not only do I not seem to be able to initiate a voice command using the headset, if I do initiate one using the phone I do not hear the response in the headset.
Thanks for letting me know that it is possible....
I had some issues with the stock VC on the ATT ROM. With ROMeOS though it doesn't come with VC (or at least not that I could find) so I added the latest PPC VC (1.6.19214) and it seems to work just fine now (including announcing calls via BT).
I thought that VC in general did not work with bluetooths. This is a limitation of VC not the phone or the bluetooth. On my old mogul, you could get it to initiate the command but not hear your response or confirmation.
Works fine for me with a Jabra BT-135 headset -- giving commands, getting feedback, and answering phone calls all work as expected. The only thing that doesn't work is announcing the name of the caller for incoming calls; all I get is a ring for that. (I have the stock AT&T ROM.)
pre-record for voice dialing?!
starstreak said:
Yes you can. It's called Voice Commander. It should be on by default. You can say stuff like "call john smith" or "dial 123-4567" pretty cool.
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That's OK, but what I really want is to record names for each PHONE# foreach contact, like "call Scott CELL" or "call Scott HOME" or "call Josh OFFICE" like I used to do with my HTC MDA w/ WinMo5. Can I do this? I've been searching the phone and forums and this site's postings too... any help?
If you can load the program - it is in the WM 6.0 ROM - it will work with bluetooth devices.
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That's OK, but what I really want is to record names for each PHONE# foreach contact, like "call Scott CELL" or "call Scott HOME" or "call Josh OFFICE" like I used to do with my HTC MDA w/ WinMo5. Can I do this? I've been searching the phone and forums and this site's postings too... any help?
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There's no need to do that with voice command. As long as your contacts are stored properly (i.e., a contact's mobile number is stored as mobile, their home number is stored as home, etc) you can just say something like "Call name on mobile", or "Call name at home".
From MS on how to use it:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/more/voice-command-tutorials.mspx
Thanks Syntrix, Joecd04475 for the help, appreciate it. Not real excited about saying, "Call.. Doe, John... at... Mobile" when I'm used to saying, "John cell", but looks like that's what we got w/ WM6
markmensch said:
Thanks Syntrix, Joecd04475 for the help, appreciate it. Not real excited about saying, "Call.. Doe, John... at... Mobile" when I'm used to saying, "John cell", but looks like that's what we got w/ WM6
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Well, you can get rid of the "...", at least -- Voice Command, in my experience, seems to be pretty good at deciphering connected speech. And there's no need to invert the names, either (I don't even know if it would work that way). In any event, it doesn't seem a great hardship to say, in a normal speaking cadence, "Call John Doe at work."
You might want to have a look at the German ROM version as there is Cyberon Voice Command included which exactly does what you want. You can record voice commands for each phone number, program, ... on your own. I still think MS Voice Command is more preferable as you do not have the hassle to record voice commands for every contact and so on on your own.
CU,
Cactus World
Call John Cell isn't any different then Call John on mobile.
MSVC also allows you to control other aspects of your phone in addition to calling contacts.
Play Metallica
Play Iron Maiden
What time is it?
What is my signal strength?
Ringer vibrate
Ringer off
Ringer high
and a ton more things you can speak also.
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MSVC also allows you to control other aspects of your phone in addition to calling contacts.
Play Metallica
Play Iron Maiden
What time is it?
What is my signal strength?
Ringer vibrate
Ringer off
Ringer high
and a ton more things you can speak also.
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Well, on my MS VC the ringer stuff does not work properly with the TP. And controlling the audio player is kinda funny as you have to pronounce the artist's, album's and song's names in a German way So Iron Maiden would have to be pronounced "Eeron My den"
CU,
Cactus World
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Call John Cell isn't any different then Call John on mobile.
MSVC also allows you to control other aspects of your phone in addition to calling contacts.
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Yes, this is a perfect example of the corporate 'give you *more* of what you don't want' that is difficult to avoid when you're innovative over customer-driven.
Voice Command looks like a very nice feature that will do a lot for me, especially the music options you listed (though I assume that requires I 'play nice' by using playlists, import music through Media Player). It's a large feature that I may become an expert in someday, but a busy week into using my new phone, I just want to dial my most used numbers while driving, and Voice Command simply does not recognise my commands 90% of the time. I have a pretty plain-jane American accent, but VC simply doesn't know what I'm saying.
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I just want to dial my most used numbers while driving, and Voice Command simply does not recognise my commands 90% of the time. I have a pretty plain-jane American accent, but VC simply doesn't know what I'm saying.
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That's strange; I have been really impressed,with 100% accuracy over the dozen or so times I've used it to call people and dial numbers since I got my Fuze. What is your setup? Are you using it over a Bluetooth headset or via the built-in microphone? (Not sure if that makes a difference, as I've not had any problems either way, but it might be something to try with your phone.) If using the built-in microphone, how far away are you holding the phone when you speak? Is Automatic Gain Control off? (The help file, I think it was, recommended not using AGC.)
Sweet. I had AGC on. I'll switch it off and try out on the drive home.
I'm using a wired headset w/ inline mic, usually great sound quality on the other end (others listening to me) so I figured it should've worked fine. Come to think of it, back when I still used a HTC Wizard, I had AGC off too. Shoot, just realized, maybe the inline mic on my earbud is disabled, maybe I need to hold the phone up to my mouth?
Got so angry trying to get it to recognize me on the drive home, almost threw it out the window. "No, you stupd #%$& I said 'CALL! HOME! AT! HOME!' "
Also, I'm frustrated that my old Wizard 3.5mm headset jack (which played sounds in both ears: double mono for phone calls)---when I use it w/ my Fuze (with USB converter brick) it only plays phone calls AND MUSIC in 1 ear: very vexxing.

[REQUEST] Call Recorder

Is there is no call recorder for Android 2.1?
In Total Recall there's the message that it doesn't work on 2.1 sadly.
Is there no way to get it work on our Nexus?
Especially on a rooted one I thought this might work.
Where does is depend on?
Hope someone can help
Do you have the Full version of that app?
Yes I have, but they write in the description that it doens't work on 2.1
And Ultimate Voice Recorder didn't work, too.
you're right Ultimate voice doesnt work....hhmmm
This recorder works and its free.
Get a hold of the developer, seems like he needs to work on his app more
Yes but this is a voice recorder and not a call recorder
Voice recording works, but no call recording that's the problem.
i'm looking for such an app too.
Looking for a call recorder too, no progress so far.
"Total Recall" Looks good, but that's not compatible with Android 2.1
Yea I'd like a call recorder too, and not a voice recorder.
For those that don't know,
Voice recorder = only records your voice
Call recorder = records BOTH sides of the conversation.
There is apparently a hardware issue that prevents true call stream access by apps on (at least) the first generation android phones. They added an api to choose the call stream as the recording source in 1.5 but it wouldn't work properly on the hardware we had available then. There are bug reports on google's page code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117. I don't know if anyone has put serious effort into working with this api on the n1 or if it is even possible hardware wise, it probably wouldn't be a bad issue to bring up in the dev forum.
I had made this thread in dev forum but it was first closed and then moved here and reopended, because it hasn't to do anything with development they told me.
So we hope somebody reads here and maybe can help
I don't think they allow app requests per-se in the dev forum but a question about the function of those apis might garner some response. Maybe cyanogen or one of the other devs who works with the kernel source would have some idea if there are issues with the api not being fully implemented or driver support.
How bout Voice?
phone recorder works well, but there's no on/off toggle that I can see, so when you've installed it records every call.
That´s really too bad, I miss a call recorder ..had that on my last device and this saved me some troubles
Use Google Voice. Record while in your calls with just the push of a button. Simple and easy.
vRecorder has worked fine for me
Lancealot said:
Use Google Voice. Record while in your calls with just the push of a button. Simple and easy.
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I just set it up...how/where is the feature?
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Calls: Recording phone calls
To record your call, simply press 4. You can do it when you first accept a call, or any time after it's started. To stop the recording, press 4 again or hang up.
Your recordings are saved online and you can access them just like you do with voicemail.
Note: at this time you can only record calls you receive on your Google Voice number. You can't record calls you initiate using our Click2Call from our website or the Return Call feature from your voicemail.
There are different laws that apply to call recording, so check your current state and Federal laws before using this feature. To assist in the compliance of these laws, we provide an automated verbal announcement when call recording has been initiated and when it has been stopped.
Mikey1022 said:
I just set it up...how/where is the feature?
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There are different laws that apply to call recording, so check your current state and Federal laws before using this feature. To assist in the compliance of these laws, we provide an automated verbal announcement when call recording has been initiated and when it has been stopped.
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Recording a call with out notifying the other party is HIGHLY illegal FYI. I believe when you record with Google Voice it notifies both parties that the call is being recorded. Just a heads up! >;]
That being said, I always wanted a telemarketer to say "this call will be recorded for quality and assurance purposes" to which I reply: "yes, and I too shall record this call for humorous potential YouTube purposes, is that ok?"
hahaha
southeastbeast said:
Recording a call with out notifying the other party is HIGHLY illegal FYI. I believe when you record with Google Voice it notifies both parties that the call is being recorded. Just a heads up! >;]
That being said, I always wanted a telemarketer to say "this call will be recorded for quality and assurance purposes" to which I reply: "yes, and I too shall record this call for humorous potential YouTube purposes, is that ok?"
hahaha
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Illegal??? yeah whatever, sue me lol
As for telemarketers.........since i have place my number on the call-registry, i don't get them
Although, i might start calling them.......and if you say both parties are informed, i can survey them LMAO

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