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Hello, I really would like to know about this, I have a T-Mobile MDA (USA) running WM 5 version 2.26.10.2 WWE. I downloaded this from the T-Mobile website and updated my phone. I would like WM 6 on my MDA but i have no clue on how to do it. So if someone could please help me to do that i would really appreciate it. Also i would like to know some of the advantages and disadvantages (if any) of upgrading to WM 6. I'm a complete noob to any of this so any help is appreciated.
killerkhatiby009 said:
Hello, I really would like to know about this, I have a T-Mobile MDA (USA) running WM 5 version 2.26.10.2 WWE. I downloaded this from the T-Mobile website and updated my phone. I would like WM 6 on my MDA but i have no clue on how to do it. So if someone could please help me to do that i would really appreciate it. Also i would like to know some of the advantages and disadvantages (if any) of upgrading to WM 6. I'm a complete noob to any of this so any help is appreciated.
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Start reading the forums. Everything you need is found here. Best bet is to take time and read the stickies at the top of this forum and the Wizard Upgrading forum. Those will tell you the step by step instructions on doing all of this. But understand, this isn't just a simple application install, but an OS Install (and not one supported by your provider). So for most roms you will have to figure out how to setup GPRS and MMS to get them to work. So don't rush into this, but spend some time reading and learning (or you may wind up with a dead phone).
A really good post with tons of pointers to stuff is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206964&postcount=894
Hats off to Carlosdude1991 for putting that together.
Thanks for the quick response, ive been reading up a little and so far it seems like the WM 6 Roms run faster than the originals, i have also learned that i have a G3 Device. Anyway im going to unlock my device and install WM 6 but i dont really know which ROM to get. Which is the best WM 6 ROM?
killerkhatiby009 said:
Thanks for the quick response, ive been reading up a little and so far it seems like the WM 6 Roms run faster than the originals, i have also learned that i have a G3 Device. Anyway im going to unlock my device and install WM 6 but i dont really know which ROM to get. Which is the best WM 6 ROM?
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Ok, then start here and follow everything without skipping steps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
As for WM6, you'll have to decide what you really want. If you want a fully loaded rom, then try Faria's "the real thing". For a "clean" rom try NotTooSmart or Xplore 1.1. Also Zoki's NBD is getting good reviews (I haven't tried it).
The beta of Faria's Vanilla is going VERY well and will be a great rom when its released (watch for it soon).
Good luck and have fun.
I have another question though before i do that, after i get WM6 will everything work again like it used to, like phone, text and sms, camera, programs etc.?
yes they will, you will have to enter in the correct settings for T-mobile mms
I think this is my last question (actually last 2), On the guide it says to downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM, what does it mean by that, does it mean that I should install buttons 1.05 ROM and do the whole process and then install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM which is the one I'm running right now? and wouldnt that re-lock my phone? and my second question is about how long would it take to go from an official T-mobile 2.26.10.2 ROM, Locked phone. to a WM6 unlocked everything working phone?
BTW thanks for all the quick responses and help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Go to that thread and follow those directions. You have to use the lokiwiz to cid unlock your rom before you can add custom roms. Cid unlocking voids your warranty btw. That form is straight forward and works like a charm just do exactly what it says word for word.
I read it through a couple of times now, but i just don't get the part at the end where it says install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM. I have that right now and wouldnt that just re-lock the phone? Also how do i Downgrade to the Button 1.05 ROM?
Alright, I understand where your coming from, I was in your shoes. lokiwiz will not work with 2.26. Therefore you have to downgrade your rom to 1.05( I used 1.8 because I couldnt find 1.5 and it still worked) Once you downgrade your rom then you can use lokiwiz to Cid unlock your phone. adding 2.26 after your cid unlock your phone will not lock it again given that you did everything correctly. 2.26 is a solid and steady base rom to use that doesnt have any bugs or anything. once this is all done you can put a wm6 rom on your wizard.
o ok i see, so i can download and install the 2.26 ROM from the T-Mobile USA website and it wont relock my phone, right? also "(i used 1.8 because i couldnt find 1.5 and it still worked)" you mean 1.05 right?
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Alright, I understand where your coming from, I was in your shoes. lokiwiz will not work with 2.26. Therefore you have to downgrade your rom to 1.05( I used 1.8 because I couldnt find 1.5 and it still worked) Once you downgrade your rom then you can use lokiwiz to Cid unlock your phone. adding 2.26 after your cid unlock your phone will not lock it again given that you did everything correctly. 2.26 is a solid and steady base rom to use that doesnt have any bugs or anything. once this is all done you can put a wm6 rom on your wizard.
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All this is correct, but let me stress... You have to get both IPL and SPL down to 1.xx or when you go back to 2.xx you may find your device isn't really CID Unlocked... So follow that thread. It tells you to do the button downgrade, then do lokiwiz, then you have to downgrade again if your SPL still hasn't changed. Once you get both to 1.xx, THEN you can go back to an official 2.xx rom (TMo 2.26 is the suggested one). THen as long as you stay on 2.xx and above, you will not have to the the 1.xx downgrade ever again. You will remain CID Unlocked during all your flashing adventures.
Thx for covering that.. I forgot about that one.. .. as for using 1.05 when i tried to click the link, I had trouble and had to search for a different 1.rom. checked the link today and it works again.. Would have saved some time and stress. lol
I have a question, when i reach the part right after downgrading to 1.05 ROM and i click enablerapi do i install it to anywhere or just click it then run the lokiwiz.bat on the computer?
Install to the C Drive I believe
killerkhatiby009 said:
I have a question, when i reach the part right after downgrading to 1.05 ROM and i click enablerapi do i install it to anywhere or just click it then run the lokiwiz.bat on the computer?
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Are you following this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
It tells you there in the steps on where things go... Basically the enablerapi can be anyplace on your phone, just get it over there and run it. But Lokiwiz needs to be on the C:\ drive of your PC to work properly I believe
alright i have succesfully installed WM6 " the real thing" but now i cant make any SMS messages? how can i fix this, i know you have to change the address or something but i have no clue where to go so i can do that. Also is there a way to get free internet from T-Mobile USA? I also have another quesiton, how come sometimes in the little icon next to the signal icon, its G and other times its E? does it make a difference?
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alright i have succesfully installed WM6 " the real thing" but now i cant make any SMS messages? how can i fix this, i know you have to change the address or something but i have no clue where to go so i can do that. Also is there a way to get free internet from T-Mobile USA? I also have another quesiton, how come sometimes in the little icon next to the signal icon, its G and other times its E? does it make a difference?
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You can't do SMS and MMS because you haven't set that stuff up yet apparently. EIther go to the T-Mo site and find the settings to plug into your phone, or search around here for the cabs for T-Mobile (I'm on Cingular so I don't have the T-Mo cabs to post)
G is straight GPRS. E is Edge (faster). I think the default TMo and Cingular stock roms turn this off from switching (so they always just show E). So now you are seeing when you are connected to the better net (but a lot of people don't care for that. again there is a cab around to turn that off)
Congrats on upgrading successfully.
ROM 1.05
Just in case this might help. Here is the link for the bottom 1.05 ROM. http://rapidshare.com/files/18212239/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe.html
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Thanks for the quick response, ive been reading up a little and so far it seems like the WM 6 Roms run faster than the originals, i have also learned that i have a G3 Device. Anyway im going to unlock my device and install WM 6 but i dont really know which ROM to get. Which is the best WM 6 ROM?
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my advice is to download awizard thats the way i unlockt my mda vario
then flash it whith a black diamond 3.0 rom i think its the best and the fastes
sorry for my engilsh i am not that good
good luck
The reason i ask this is because (as silly as this sounds) I'm trying to set a personal record for "least amount of time modding a phone after purchase" (it's a bet).
Could i buy an AT&T Tilt take it out of the box, hook it up to my computer (after installing the drivers etc.) and flash it to the Kaiser rom without worrying (about having enough battery life, about bricking the phone, etc)?
Thanks
Of course You can. You would have to beat my record though. I didnt even play with the phone at all. Lol
Same here but I lost valuable time when I forgot to choose "Kaiser" as the target on the HTC ROM tool...
What I did was:
reset out of customization, then flashed hardspl (this was the only time I saw the yucky AT&T today screen & xp'ed yucky startup annimation)
dl full TyTNII & nbhextract os.nb
grab Gold HTC Sunrise over earth splash from Sleuth ROM
convert with htc splash tool then convert again with pof's splash converter
rolled everthing into ruu_signed.nbh using htc rom tool (lost time here w/wrong target)
flashed this, loaded phmregedit & proceeded to manually enter all the reghacks that Kaiser needs
now I'm golden
First time I've ever done this with a new phone....
Quickie question on this, You have to get it SIM unlocked first? or does that not matter for firmware, post HardSPL?
there is no SIM unlocked exept from the carrior at this time.
steps you take are outlined in th sticky but
#1 flash HardSPL(condom for your Kaiser)
#2 flash rom of your picking
#3 set up personal settings
simple man!
My phone is still SIM locked to AT&T atm. I only CID unlocked it with hardspl so I could flash another vendor's ROM.
Sleuth255 said:
My phone is still SIM locked to AT&T atm. I only CID unlocked it with hardspl so I could flash another vendor's ROM.
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Thats exactly the answer I've been looking for the last few days, so you CAN flash a rom without sim, just CID unlock. Woot!
Philz said:
Thats exactly the answer I've been looking for the last few days, so you CAN flash a rom without sim, just CID unlock. Woot!
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Yup. I think that's what 90%+ of the AT&T users here are doing, including myself.
I'm SuperCID but SIMlocked, and I may never SIMunlock my phone - I don't foresee any international travel for at least a year or two, and by then I'll probably have a TyTn III.
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Yup. I think that's what 90%+ of the AT&T users here are doing, including myself.
I'm SuperCID but SIMlocked, and I may never SIMunlock my phone - I don't foresee any international travel for at least a year or two, and by then I'll probably have a TyTn III.
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Heh, same but i will be sim unlocking it ^^; but just not bothering till i get closer to the time. Why deal with the hassle, lol.
Sorry for the dumbness of the question, but do I have to sim-unlock my Kaiser (Orange) before flashing with a new radio/rom (Dutty's Hybrid 29/4). I've heard of unlockers just patching your current radio, so does flashing with a new radio automatically unlock the phone anyway?
One more thing - does this Dutty's rom (I'm going for the non-cube 1.65.14.06) also flash the radio, or is it just the rom? It says +(radio) on the posts, but I just want to be sure...
Cheers
Chris
Sim unlock, no. There is something called CID unlock which you must do in order to flash. You CID unlock by flashing HardSPL. Look it up. Sim unlock will let you use your device on any carrier.
The sim unlock works by patching a special radio (which is actually non functional as a radio, but it helps reveal the sim unlock code) and running a special program on the device and a computer. When you are done you have to flash back your original radio.
Flashing a new radio does not automatically unlock your phone.
Some of Dutty's roms come with a radio, some do not. If they say rom+radio they do. If they say rom only well, its rom only. You have to read each cooks individual FAQ/
thread to know what you are flashing.
i read somewhere that sometimes when you flash with simlock it is possible that it stops accepting any simcards.
so when i first flashed i also simunlocked.
but maybe im wrong and you dont have to do this.
i am sim, supercid, and security unlocked and haven't had any problems with my phone read the wiki it will help you understand everything
Yes you have to sim unlock your orange branded tytnII before flashing, search around xda there are a few free ways of doing this...
So I have followed the guides, two of them conflicting each other (one tells me Wizard Love while other says Button)
So I pick wizard love because I did the factory update a few years back to 2.25
use loki3
run tmobile 2.26 and it fails
run the 3.08 and it works
try to install TNT roms... all get stuck at 99% except one but the rom doesn't work because I am still on windows 5.1
Now on my third attempt it gets stuck at bootloader. Can't get the phone to turn back on to normal mode just to use it and forget about trying these roms
Any ideas?
Got button to work some how
Now I am at IPL 1.01 and SPL 3.08
Hopefully I can redo everything and get 6.1 to work
It tells me my CID/SIM but no where does anyone tell me where I need to insert this ID code at.
ID code? What do you mean by that?
I ment CID, it was telling me the CID like if I needed to enter some sort of menu and run it
Running t-mobile rom again, hopefully this works
You sure that it wasnt asking for a SIM unlock code? OR was it giving you a "data crashes" message?
Nope neither of those.
Anyways
Tmobile screen pops up now with 2.26/2.26
In regards to installing new roms, do I just launch ROMUpdateUtility or Do I need to do a CID unlock again?
Also saw there is 3.08/3.08 available, Update before or after upgrading the wm6.1 rom?
Well, lemme ask you this, what is your device? Is it a G3 or a G4, if G3, then sure, update your IPL/SPL after you upgrade. If it is a G4 however, FOR THE LOVE OF TUNA DO NOT upgrade your IPL/SPL or you will have a brick on your hands. And also, if you have used HardSPL, then no, you do not have to CID unlock your device again. Personally, I just use the SoftSPL method each time I load a ROM. If your device is a G4, I have made a guide in the G4 section that should help you. Its got screenshots and such aswell.
G3
Yay somehow it worked this time, 6.1 is nice
I did softspl
3.08 worth it?
If you device is G3 - FORGET HARDSPL
You mention that you have IPL 1.xx and SPL 3.xx
get WST - Wizard Service Tool and follow the instructions to cid unlock you device, unfortunately you cannot unlock your SIM with the SPl that you have for now
After that flash a carrier ROm to align your IPL/SPL to 2.xx
Ohh it now displays 2.26 on both IPL/SPL
From what I read, 3.08 is mainly for the european radio brand in terms of what the focus on it was for
<---AT&T
Hopefully this will be my last month with this company, figured I try some things out before I put the phone away or give it away to a friend.
Ok, you have a G3 device
Get WST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Install in your PC (XP not Vista), check the situation about your CID and SIM
If you have CID unlock = SUpercid you can flash any ROm you want, if not you must downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx (Button Rom)
WST Unlock only works with IPL/SPL 1.xx
Note that SIM can only be unlocked with your SPL as 1.xx
go on run, type msconfig and open that, close all microsoft services and install,
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Ohh it now displays 2.26 on both IPL/SPL
From what I read, 3.08 is mainly for the european radio brand in terms of what the focus on it was for
<---AT&T
Hopefully this will be my last month with this company, figured I try some things out before I put the phone away or give it away to a friend.
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DUDE! I'm your friend you can give it to me
Or you could use tmobile with that phone (or any other company that uses sim chips for service) .
Once you have it completely unlocked (cid/sim) you can take it traveling to other countries and use their prepaid sim cards... This is an open phone. dont get rid of it.
on second thought, I will buy it from you if you dont see a reason why you would keep it. I could use a backup to test my cooking on PM me
HAHAHAHA
S.V.I said:
DUDE! I'm your friend you can give it to me
Or you could use tmobile with that phone (or any other company that uses sim chips for service) .
Once you have it completely unlocked (cid/sim) you can take it traveling to other countries and use their prepaid sim cards... This is an open phone. dont get rid of it.
on second thought, I will buy it from you if you dont see a reason why you would keep it. I could use a backup to test my cooking on PM me
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You know when an oportunittie comes huh!
I can buy it too but its more glad to see a wizard function well with 6.1
hope you can unlock and upgrade... if not... READ a lot.
Losing Mind (again)
OK, here we go.
First off, I am in no way new to Flashing or the logistics behind it. I am sure this is just something that I cant find by searching. But my problem is this.
I have a G3 TMOBILE USA MDA (Wizard). I have used the lokiwiz2 unlock software several times and according to the program I am SUPERCID unlocked. I am able to flash ROMS all day long. I get no error about loading. What is happening is that I almost always end up with the same default ROM after the FLASH is completed. I am now sitting with the Button ROM on the unit. I assume if the Button ROM loads, then I should be CID Unlocked otr it would not load (or is this my mistake in thinking?)
As my MDA sits now, I have the Beer Mug Displayed, IPL 1.05
SPL 2.26 GSM 01.12.10 OS 1.5.4.2
Now, if I go and try to Flash to one of the Two ROMS I want to go to
TMOUS_MDA_5.2.1629_Wing_Port_1.1 (Boring ROM) or I try with SNN 3.1 it will run the procedure perfectly, and I will end up with a Barebones version of Windows Mobile 5.0. This is wild.
Has anyone seen this happen and is laughing and going "Been there, here is the problem,,) or do I need to discuss this in more detail.
Im wondering if the ROM Upgrade Software is grabbing a ROM from elsewhere on my Hard Drive and is installing it from cache or something like that. Is there another version of the OS Upgrader that allows me to tell it exactly what ROM I want installed, instead of just installing whatever it wants.
Thanks for the help, after two days of searching and looking around, I can deal with amteur hour emabreesment, just HELP!!
My xv6800 and my 8125 was a breeze compared to this nitemare. (BTW, I also flashed this 2 years ago with the TMOBILE USA Official Release, no issue)
wyreless
Well,these are symptoms of CID not unlocked.Button's Rom flashed doesn't mean its CID unlocked,its a patched IPL/SPL rom simply to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx for CID unlocking.
Simply,download WST_4.2.2 and run it to verify the CID lock/unlock status of the phone and do the right thing onwards.
Thank You Zabardast for the quick and to the point answer.
I was thinking in the back of my head it was a CID issue. It was just that everything seemed to be "moving right along". I sthere an easier or better Unlocking soiftware then lokwhiz for the Wizard Series, specifically my USA Tmobile MDA?
Well,if you have Button's Rom running successfully,so its IPL/SPL must be 1.xx already,there shudn't be any problem to use lokiwiz02b to CID unlock the phone,you can even use WST_4.2.2 tool also to easily CID unlock the phone.
There's no other method known to get CID unlocked a wizard freely,unless you are ready to pay to IMEI company to get a unlock code
hey alll..ok i screwed up
i downloaded Charecters ROM..i used WST and it showed that my device is G3 and its CID locked..well i just started the Flashing and it stuck at 99%
now it wont load any ROM and just as i came from school..its not evening starting..its not evening charging..please help any one
for one to flash a rom you must CID unlock it first...
Phone info in sig
Used KaiserUnlocker (NOT kaiser-supercid - OP claims it doesnt work with hardspl 3.28 nor 3.29).
I can only find a relocker for the superCID unlocker
Can anyone help me relock my CID since I used KaiserUnlocker?
Have you called cust care yet? If not, call and ask for your unlock code because you plan on taking an extended buisness trip to canadialand. Say your company is using Rogers up there and is providing you a phone, but you cannot imagine your life without your tilt.
Then warranty it.
not sure if u looked at the "reverting" thread for this request here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
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not sure if u looked at the "reverting" thread for this request here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
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I don't see anything in that thread about reverting CID back to OEM..unless I missed it.
cbass said:
Have you called cust care yet? If not, call and ask for your unlock code because you plan on taking an extended buisness trip to canadialand. Say your company is using Rogers up there and is providing you a phone, but you cannot imagine your life without your tilt.
Then warranty it.
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i need not to unlock my phone. it is already unlocked. i need to lock it so i can return it.
but lets say i call cust care, can they give me my OEM CID code to relock? All i can remember is mine starting with 8 lol
richabi said:
i need not to unlock my phone. it is already unlocked. i need to lock it so i can return it.
but lets say i call cust care, can they give me my OEM CID code to relock? All i can remember is mine starting with 8 lol
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It shouldn't make any difference. ATT is not like Sprint in this matter I believe. They don't care. Just put the original stock ROM on ATT with the Original Radio and it should be ok. Make sure the software is exactly as it is when its NIB (new in box). No customs ROMs or the Super eMo radio.
Thats what I did when I returned mine and nothing happened.
Although I might have been lucky. But in my opinion nothing should happen.
Att is just anal about giving the unlock code.
They don't care if you return in unlocked.
Once again this is my opinion.. Do it at your own risk.
I was saying that you should get the unlock code from them and return the phone unlocked. That way they can't question your phone being unlocked.
I hope this helps
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i need not to unlock my phone. it is already unlocked. i need to lock it so i can return it.
but lets say i call cust care, can they give me my OEM CID code to relock? All i can remember is mine starting with 8 lol
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I used the relocker just yesterday. I don't think it matters what you used to unlock it. Just flash a compatable SPL before starting. I too was using SPL 3.29 comex. The instructions were a little tedious.
First: follow the steps to lock only replace file Super CID with relocker.exe in step two. {you must do this before you remove Hard SPL by Olipro, because you have to have hard spl to start the unlocker} This relock your phone. Left to do is remove Hard SPL and flash the correct ROM
Second: flash your OEM SPL because you haven't removed hard SPL you shouldn't need jump spl
Third: Flash your OEM ROM
This should have your good to go. I did deviate from the recommended sequence in that I fould that when I followed the steps in the thread I'd already removed hard spl and it was needed to get relock/unlock to work. PM if you need assistance I will provide you with my IM user name. and we can have a live chat to get you through it.
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wow
you guys are amazing. thank you all for your replies.
I called them for the unlock code and CID number and the lady said don't worry about it. just to return the phone unlocked and she will make a note on my account.
of course, my account doesnt claim that i called in before that and was issued an unlock code so i dont know how that is going to work. the lady sounded a bit perplexed about my request so i don't know if i should trust her lol
I don't think its a big deal if a phone is unlocked. i wouldn't think it would void warranty. some ppl NEED to travel internationally and they have issues with their AT&T branded phones every day, ya know?
Well let me set the record straight. It's not a big deal. I've RMA returned two Tilts now back to AT&T, the first one I still had an HTC based cooked ROM on it from here (Dutty's Dualtouch v4) and the second had Garmin 4.2, but I reinstalld the AT&T Tilt ROM. But I didn't relock it. Anyways they can't tell, they rewipe it from scratch so the evidence of if it's locked or unlocked goes bye bye. They'd have to try to flash a nonstandard ROM to know for sure. They aren't going to do that obviously
Hello everybody, excuse my poor english, i am french.
I just have installed a cooked rom i will try it for a few days but it's possible that i will want to return back to the original orange Rom. I have the 3.29 hard spl and superCID unlocked (000000000).
Can i just execute the installation of the original rom ? or have i to do something before ? (i have killed a C500 by doing this kind of operation)
Thx for your help and have a nice day.
McAlister said:
Hello everybody, excuse my poor english, i am french.
I just have installed a cooked rom i will try it for a few days but it's possible that i will want to return back to the original orange Rom. I have the 3.29 hard spl and superCID unlocked (000000000).
Can i just execute the installation of the original rom ? or have i to do something before ? (i have killed a C500 by doing this kind of operation)
Thx for your help and have a nice day.
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I've answered to your PM...
Yeah. I returned a Tilt with HardSPL installed and got a refurb back. The coolest part was that the refurb had a 1gb card in it with a bunch of rom flashing stuff on it. I was laughing.
It didn't have HardSPL installed, though. Wonder if someone bricked it.