Hi to everybody, would I have a question for the forum, to someone it results that the screen of the ipaq 614 have some problems of operation with the you protect applied screen?? honestly I hope that is not true, because otherwise it would be really a disappointment.
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I've had little problem after I applied protector... but seems it was my fault.
I was trying to protect the display surface as much as I could and I cut the protector little wider than the visilbe display.
then I applied the protector stickin' it to the edges and the touch display stopped working.
after removing the protector display was ok. the issue was probably that somewhere in the edge the case was pressing constantly on the display covered with protector...
so I'd bought thinner protector, cut only size of visible display and now it is all fine.
The only problem I have with my protector is that the stylus scratches it and its got visible wear marks where my fingers constantly press. Resolution and sensetivity is apparently unaffected.
BTW, I disassembled the phone to place mine on the screen. Surprisingly, there was not a single warranty-voiding sticker type device anywhere to be found.
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Despite being careful, my screen is increasingly getting scratched. The scratches are only noticeable when the device is off (thank goodness).
If there are any other persons with the same problem, please post here.
I guess that you did not use a screen protector, right?
Correct. I also own a TyTn II and have no issues with the screen whatsoever. Of all the devices I have owned over the years, only this TC has been an issue.
I was noticing the same so applied the included screen protector... I usually don't bother as I don't like them and the device is a throwaway after a year anyway so it's not a big deal. But in this case I figured if it was like that after a few weeks then after 6 months I'd probably not be able to see the screen!
I've had a few Palm devices before i switched to WM and i noticed this scratching as well......Luckily i'm using the included protector.
I have to say on my previous Palms i didn't have this problem, also while using a protector, which makes me suspect that the stylus is the real problem here.
Any thoughts on this?
I use the screen protector, and also got some spares. I also cover the whoel device with a liquid "screen" protector to helpthe faces from getting ruined. So far so good
Problem with the Touch Cruise (Polaris...) is, that the screen is - unlike the Kaiser's - flat and not indent. This means, its exposed to EVERYTHING it touches. Thus chances are higher you'll get one or two scratches once in a while.
Second thing which I can only cite other ppl on other forums: those Polaris allegedly have a softer top layer to be able to operate the unit using only your finger. This would support catching scratches as well...
I'd use the protector. It's a shame having scratches on that mirrored surface.
Schaggo, can you indicate what other forums people are commenting about the screen?
I am interested in your view that the top layer is softer than most others.
i agree that the stylus is the problem ... to much thin... , i tried one from nintendo ds , it's much more rounded and it slide better ( sorry for my english...)
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i agree that the stylus is the problem ...
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Yeah, I'm using one from my old IPAQ !
ou guys use other styluses? I use my finger, thats what the Touch series should be made for I know it doesnt really work, the fonts are way too small...
Hicksville, I cannot judge what the other ppl say because I used the protector right away. Nothing ever touched my screen without the protector applied. But as I got it, the top film seems to be made of a softer material than the one of other WM devices. Reason for that is the reason for the "Touch" in the devices name: to make the touch layer register the actual point, where the finger tries to point at. If the top layer would be harder/stiffer it allegedly cant tell where exactly the finger tried to hit the screen because the area involved ('touched' eg. pressed down) would be bigger than with a soft top layer. Thats what I got and which makes some sense.
And logically a soft surface is more prone to be 'hurt' than a surface made of hard material. So I guess this might be connected. But I have to repeat, these are all assumptions by users and in no way official statements.
I've been using my phone w/o a screen protector, and I haven't gotten any scratches. Like schaggo I mainly use my finger. I did however test the screen by applying a lot of pressure with the stylus in a sweeping motion, and I didn't get any scratches (don't ask me what possessed me to try this). I later tried a much more conclusive scratch test on a CDMA Touch unit in a store on both the screen and the body and got no scratches! Yes, I applied a lot of pressure, (However, someone else had managed to put a scratch on the CDMA Touch's screen, but that scratch was really deep and probably done with a really sharp object; on the other hand, I did my testing with my TC stylus). I coudln't scratch both the body or the screen using a lot of pressure from my stylus and my nails. Maybe some of you exposed the TC to coins or keys inadvertantly?
That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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Yes, very gutsy, I pushed hard enough to watch the screen sink it and rise back up very slowly...I don't know what I was thinking, but hey it turned out well w/o any scratches. The plastic on the screen is a lot stronger than your typical screen protector, so that fact along with my tests pretty much confirmed it for me. Furthermore, I don't like the look of screen protectors and I'm worried that they'll hinder touch flow.
As far as the casing, it seems bulletproof. But I'm like you, I keep it in the oem suede/microfiber case whenever its not being held to my ear for a phone call, and I've never put it in a pocket with anything else.
Actually with the suede comment I was talking about the body of the actual device. I'm not sure what that is but it has a nice texture to it. I haven't used that pouch that came in the package. Not a big fan of it. Head on over to the acc forum to see which cases people like. As far as the screen protector goes the original one does not hinder touch capabilities. Also in the acc forum they discuss different screen protectors, you might wanna check out one of those as well.
Hello,
Until this morning I was using the screen protector that came with my Pro. And I don't mean the bundled protector you can apply yourself, but the one that comes applied while shipping lol.
But I did that because I know protectors are very very hard to put on without bubbles and dust, and it was indeed hard, I spend around 40 minutes to apply it.
The protector I'm using now is a Brando one, which I think it's excellent, from all the people who saw my phone today there wasn't a single one who noticed the protector.
Anyway, what I wanted to ask is that this only protects the screen itself, so the bottom touch panel is unprotected. Should I leave it like this? If not, what are my options?
One thing I noticed is that when I removed the original protector from the panel, I can finally use camera focus, so even if I use some kind of protection, I will probably need a hole for the center button.
The main reason I'm asking is because I read here some people saying the home and back buttons are peeling off, and I definitely don't want that to happen.
Oh, and no, using cases or any kind of outer protection is not an option. Phones are made to be pocket devices.
Thanks.
I have the zagg shield on and it covers the entire bottom plate plus the center button. Feels great and dont even know its there, no problem with the capacitive touch. Only problem is its on the expensive side, and the screen protector part is useless
Boxwave.
I have used many protectors over many phones. The Boxwave (there are two, I prefer the non-Anti-Glare one) is the most scratch-resistant I have used. For the Fuze (Touch Pro) it comes with the piece for the bottom (with a hole). I notice no degradation in sensitivity of the scroll wheel to zoom in Opera or to actually scroll in other apps. I wish it came with a piece for over the camera port, but that may not work on the brushed aluminum trim that is there.
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I cant believe how much more responzive the screen is now i have removed the protector. and the apps are much smoother.
And once that screen is scratched, you'll be amazed on how bad your diamond works .
I would definitely recommend getting a screen guard on as soon as possible.
my screen protector showed 0 performance deficit to my diamond. not sure which 3 inch bullet proof protector you're using.
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And once that screen is scratched, you'll be amazed on how bad your diamond works .
I would definitely recommend getting a screen guard on as soon as possible.
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Not true at all, the digitizer on my diamond was a mess, there was a massive scratch down one side of the screen, i did witha knife trying to clean some tobacco i got stuck inbetween the housing and the screen, and it was full of tiny scratches to the point that i cud hardly see the screen outside for all of them, and it worked perfect till recently when i dropped it face down in a puddle lol
(There's plenty of guides to help you replace your screens out there...so I would redo one of those.)
Ive replaced a few of these S3 screens with new glass and the double sided tape method and the only issue that always happens is that the glass will touch the digitizer in the middle once in awhile. This registers a touch that is stuck on and locks up the rest of the touch screen. The only work around is pressing on the glass around the outside of the lcd to release the unwanted touch. Tonight I discovered a great method for curing that problem. I removed the glass and cleaned up very well. Then applied a cut down screen protector for a LG spectrum to underside of the glass to bridge the gap between the glass and the digitzer. (The spectrum protectors was big enough to trim down to the right size) Retaped and assembled. This has worked perfect to correct and the screen looks great! Make sure to buy a screen protector that is clear. A protector that is anti-glare would dim the display. With the clear you cant tell its there. The touch screen acts like new. Very happy with the results!!
Dan
Hogan1975 said:
(There's plenty of guides to help you replace your screens out there...so I would redo one of those.)
Ive replaced a few of these S3 screens with new glass and the double sided tape method and the only issue that always happens is that the glass will touch the digitizer in the middle once in awhile. This registers a touch that is stuck on and locks up the rest of the touch screen. The only work around is pressing on the glass around the outside of the lcd to release the unwanted touch. Tonight I discovered a great method for curing that problem. I removed the glass and cleaned up very well. Then applied a cut down screen protector for a LG spectrum to underside of the glass to bridge the gap between the glass and the digitzer. (The spectrum protectors was big enough to trim down to the right size) Retaped and assembled. This has worked perfect to correct and the screen looks great! Make sure to buy a screen protector that is clear. A protector that is anti-glare would dim the display. With the clear you cant tell its there. The touch screen acts like new. Very happy with the results!!
Dan
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interesting. i have recently replaced my S3 with the prokit from amazon, but had occasional touch issues like you described. i might try this. to be clear, with the screen protector, do you still need to apply any adhesive between screen and digitizer?
cowboybebop98 said:
interesting. i have recently replaced my S3 with the prokit from amazon, but had occasional touch issues like you described. i might try this. to be clear, with the screen protector, do you still need to apply any adhesive between screen and digitizer?
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No you do not need adhesive/loca between ur screen and digitizer. BTW I've went down that road with using the adhesive...not very fun. The UV glue method is tough to apply correctly. That is why I was experimenting with the under glass screen protector method.
One more add on to my description of adding the screen protector between glass and digitizer is doubling up on the double sided tape around the perimeter. I wanted to make sure I got the tape high enough to bridge the slightly larger gap between the glass/digitizer due to the screen protector. Hope this helps.
maybe not the perfect solution....
The wifes phone that I tried this fix on is working awesome. She said it hasnt had one issue since. But I've tried this method on two other S3 without the same sucess. Both were the US Cellular verisons of the phone (wifes is Verizon), and both still had touch screen lockups. So had to redo with the LOCA replacement method to cure issues. Just FYI...
I think I just ran into my first real problem with the phone. I got a glass screen protector on Amazon, and it absolutely refuses to recognize my fingerprint with the glass on it. The error just keeps telling me to press harder. I never had any issue before without one on.
Took the screen protector off, and now it's back to normal.
I have each thumb trained twice, so recognition shouldn't be a problem at all. I think it's just too thick and it isn't sensing enough pressure to register the fingerprint.
Anyone find a good screen protector that works with fingerprint? I may have to go with a plastic one that won't be as thick as glass.
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I think I just ran into my first real problem with the phone. I got a glass screen protector on Amazon, and it absolutely refuses to recognize my fingerprint with the glass on it.
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This is disappointing. When I first looked into this, I found someone claiming to have tested the Oneplus 6T fingerprint sensor with 3 screen protectors on top of each other. I concluded it was not an issue. But now I am seeing plently or articles suggesting that it depends. E.g. "Vivo did mention that only screen protectors of a certain thickness will work with the sensor". I wonder if Nokia will offer or recommend a screen protector.
Also, I don't know if Nokia are using the same sensor as Oneplus, but this is interesting: "[when registering] make sure your environment is not too bright. If possible, you should register a fingerprint in a completely dark environment."
Edit, also spotted this: "We also recommend re-registering your fingerprint every time you add or remove a screen protector."
So as an update, I applied the second screen protector that came in the 2-pack. Removed all of my fingerprints that were stored, and tried to setup new prints.
Took me about 200 tries to get my right thumb registered (not exaggerating), but I couldn't get it to actually read when trying to activate it.
Couldn't get my left thumb to register at all. Just kept saying to press harder. I was pressing so hard I thought I'd break the screen if I pushed harder.
Tried in bright light, as well as a completely dark room. Didn't change the ability for it to register at all.
So overall for this phone, I'm going to say glass screen protectors won't reliably work with the fingerprint scanner. I've ordered a plastic screen protector. Going to try that out, as I'm pretty sure it will work.
I imagine the thickness of glass is the culprit here, due to how the fingerprint sensor works even without a screen protector applied. It seems more difficult to activate than other in-display readers (I have 3 others with in-display readers and they're all incredibly easy to use).
Fingerprint issues aside, I normally go for glass screen protectors because the plastic ones tend to cause more drag when using the phone.
I have generally seen two models. One which is clear and another which has a black border, both with cutouts for sensors, cameras and speakers.
I'm unable to add a link as I'm new to the forums but both examples can be seen on Amazon by searching 'GEEMEE 9h nokia 9 pureview'
Has anyone bought these or similar protectors?
I am interested to know if the black border one covers any part of the screen. I think it looks better on the pictures but in real life I'm not sure how it would look.
I got the Mr.Shield 9h glass and it works fine. The issue with the fingerprint is a software issue. The warning to press harder is not correct. I've verified that the reader will read with normal to light pressure. Hopefully they will release an update that fixes it within the next couple months.
MoseMan said:
Fingerprint issues aside, I normally go for glass screen protectors because the plastic ones tend to cause more drag when using the phone.
I have generally seen two models. One which is clear and another which has a black border, both with cutouts for sensors, cameras and speakers.
I'm unable to add a link as I'm new to the forums but both examples can be seen on Amazon by searching 'GEEMEE 9h nokia 9 pureview'
Has anyone bought these or similar protectors?
I am interested to know if the black border one covers any part of the screen. I think it looks better on the pictures but in real life I'm not sure how it would look.
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I just got the screen protector with the black borders, and it doesn't cover any part of the screen. I think it looks good. But I was a bit sloppy when I applied it and one of the corners has an air bubble which I can't get rid of.
But since I applied it, the fingerprint scanner is causing me problems. It has problems recognizing my prints
Zurion said:
I just got the screen protector with the black borders, and it doesn't cover any part of the screen. I think it looks good. But I was a bit sloppy when I applied it and one of the corners has an air bubble which I can't get rid of.
But since I applied it, the fingerprint scanner is causing me problems. It has problems recognizing my prints
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I ended up going for a clear one tempered glass protector. I have a couple of tiny bubbles which was just me rushing as I was excited.
The finger print sensor works fine as long as I get my finger in the correct place but that is a challenge. My thumb is more difficult but still possible. It hasn't been a massive burden though because I have been using face and trusted bluetooth device to good effect.