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TomTom3 freezes on start when BT is turned off (ROM 1.72)

Previously i had TomTom3.0 with BTHTools and a Holux BT GR230 GPS
and it worked fine.
I recently upgraded to ROM 1.72.00 WWE so i no longer needed BTHTools and it still works fine.
EXCEPT : When the GPS receiver is not found (BT turned off or GPS off or out of range), TomTom freezes or slows down terribly. This didn't happened with my previous rom/BTHTools)
upgraded to TT Navigator 3.03 and TT GPS 3.03 but that didn't help.
I found others reporting the same problem in other threads,( see Kim71 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3341&start=350 ) but this specific problem was lost in the mainstream of those threads.
anything usefull will be greatly appreciated

The only way I found to get over this was to deselect the gps in tomtom before closing down each time, it would then need selecting if you wish to use bluetooth gps. If this wasnt done and bluetooth gps was switched off when starting tomtom the pda would slow to a crawl, I know it isnt a perfect fix but seemed to work ok for me.

the problem is you have selected the wrong com port in the gps setting (i have 3 to choose from on mine!) first uncheck the box on the left. then drop the menu and select 'bluetooth gps'. Then turn on the receiver and the check the box again
that should sort it.
Regards
The Pilgrim

Right now i have NMEA 0183V2 Bluetooth / COM5:
Tried to uncheck : OK
Tried choosing Bluetooth GPS : OK
Tried to check : NOK it simply will not check :?

is the reciever switched on?

As I have posted earlier in other threads and other sites, I have the exact same issue.
However there seem to be people that have got it to work without any extras installed.
Only port to get TomTom to work with my DConnex DC-230 (=rebadged Holux GR-230) is COM5.
I cant tick the blue box with 'Bluetooth GPS' in the lower combo=box.
To get by for now by I digged into the registry.
I created 2 CAB's that do the following:
Set the registry value of TomTom GPS to enabled or disabled.
By starting one of these CAB's I can easily enable of disable the GPS. Would be nice to have a Today Plugin that toggles the TomTom GPS Enabled value (any volunteers???)
BUT I see this solution only as a work-around.
The solution MUST be in selecting 'Bluetooth GPS' instead of 'COM5'.
The task is to find out on how to achieve that.
Any help appreciated.

Hi
i still have rom 1.66.00wwe. and BTTools installed
i run the latest tt gps v3.3 (?) and a fortuna bt clipon.
I can check the box with 'bluetooth gps' without any problems.
You might want to visit www.pocketgps.co.uk
The forums are excellant
i hope this is of use
Regards
The Pilgrim

Pilgrim,
I allready noticed the excellent forums on pocketgps.co.uk, but until now I only got the advise to select Bluetooth GPS instead of COM5. And that is just what is not possible with my 1.72 rom . . .
:idea: Like I said: any suggestions are more than welcom, as is an offer to creat a small program (Today plugin!) that toggles the Enabled registry value of TomTom GPS.

If anyone wants to write that pgm, he might consider simultaneously turning bluetooth on / off.
State 1 : Bluetooth on / TT GPS enabled
State 2 : Bluetooth off / TT GPS Disabled

even better: Make that configurable (via registry setting or whatever lean & mean) for both states

I have been investigating this annoying issue with "ronald2oo2".
He does not have any issues like we do with his 1.72.00WWE ROM.
We did notice some interesting differences between his and my device-behaviour. Also the registry settings between him and me are quite different.
The biggest difference between the two devices is the origin of the OS rom. He uses the iMate based rom, I use the Qtek based rom.
Could anyone with 1.72.00WWE OS ROM, BT GPS and TT3 please post:
1. If (s)he has the possibility of checking the blue--ish box in TomTom GPS when the post is set to 'Bluetooth GPS': YES / NO and with what protocol (NMEA, SiRF, GPS specific)
2. What the origin of the 1.72.00WWE (OS!) rom is: QTEK, IMATE, T_MOBILE beta, . ....

I experienced the same problem for several months now and hoped that it would dissapear when I upgraded to TT3.07 and TT GPS 3.07 but it still didn't work.
Then I came across this post and started playing myself with these settings and found a solution. I can now use TomTom Navigator 3.07 with a bluetooth connection with my Rikaline 6030 GPS receiver
I have a Qtek 2020 with 1.72.00WWE OS ROM and Rikaline 6030 BT GPS and TT3.07
I was able to check the blue-ish checkbox with Bluetooth GPS setting after choosing 'NMEA 0183v2 Bluetooth' in the drop down list above 'Bluetooth GPS' and after unchecking 'Outbound COM port: COM5' in my Bleutooth Settings (Start -> Settings -> System).
I hope I am helping a lot of people who have the same problem as I did for months and didn't find a solution for it.
Cheers,
Gino

The sentence: 'I can now use TomTom Navigator 3.07 with a bluetooth connection with my Rikaline 6030 GPS receiver' should read 'I can now use TomTom Navigator 3.07 with a bluetooth connection without my Rikaline 6030 GPS receiver'

Or without bluetooth turned on at all. Sorry for the confusion. Must be getting tired
Gino

Did you have to delete the existing bonds?
Because i tried your solution and it still won't let me choose "Bluetooth GPS". Am i doing something wrong? or is it some else different between our xdaII?
I don't know exactly where the bluetooth drivers come from. Can you check if you have OEM_WWE_04071402.sa.CAB in your ExtROM?
or another OEM_WWE_04???????.sa.CAB.

No I didn't have to remove the existing bond(s). I just first unchecked the Outbound COM5 setting in Bluetooth settings, then I removed the checkmark in the GPS Settings so I could select the NMEA 0183v2 Bluetooth option and then I selected Bluetooth GPS. Checked the check box again and closed all open windows and everything was working fine with or without bluetooth/GPS receiver .
Regarding your other question, where can I find this info about the OEM_WWE_04??????.sa.CAB file. I remember looking in the extROM but I forgot where to find it. I'll do a quick search to see if I can find it again.
Cheers,
Gino

you have to install extendedromunlocker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8422&highlight=extendedromunlocker
and then unhide it, and then you would be able to see what's in there.

I also have OEM_WWE_04071402.sa.CAB in my ExtROM. I remember that my Bluetooth connection was not turned on when I tried to change the settings.
Gino

I have Radio version 1.14.00. Is this different from your version? I see that in your profile you pur 1.12.00 but I have noticed that 1.14.00 is not available.

I allready heard from 'ronald2oo2' that he is able to choose the Bluetooth GPS 'port' in TomTom GPS. I went thru all the options with him but still I cant select the 'Bluetooth GPS'. Also TomTom could not provide me with an answer, they eventualy offered to test my MDAII, but thats not an option since I rely on my MDAII.
BUT: I ams till using TomTom GPS 3.03. I will try the update tomorrow since maybe this version has some changes specific for Himalaya . . .

tomtom v.4.4 bluetooth gps problem

Hi!!
I was happily using tomtom v.4.4 with a bluetooth gps. Last day I made a hard reset, and I reinstalled Tomtom.
Now it is impossible that tomtom sees the bluetooth gps.
1) The gps is visible by other application (pocket street)
2) I installed tomtom with pocket bluetooth tools AND without
3) I tried the patch tomtom5 that is here posted (carefully following the instructions) but no....nada....niet!!
When with tomtom I go to preferences....gps.....I select bluetooth gps and the program DOES NOT show the menu with the ports it simply goes back to the gps config file, obviously saying "no gps unit" (I have it in Italian, not sure how that is translated in english)
What else can I try?
Thanks!

ahhh I have Himalaya and windows mobile 2005

Problems connecting to Holux 236Slim with Treo 750 WM 6

I had no problem pairing with my Holux 236slim external GPS but cannot locate the GPS when scanning for it using the Holux GPS View software, nor does MS Livesearch locate the GPS. Livesearch asks for a com port and I've tried them all with no success. Does anyone know which comport the Treo 750 should use? And what about the remote GPS settings which ask for both "program" and "hardware" com ports (which cannot be the same)?

The way that I understand it (from messing around, mostly) is that the "external GPS" program allows "sharing" of the BT signal by multiple programs. Here's what I did.
1) Pair the GPS via Bluetooth.
2) Set the GPS up as a comm port - BT, Settings, COM Ports, New Outgoing Port. I set my GPS up as COM 8, secure.
3) Next, go into the External GPS application. Set up the "Program" port as the port you'd like to scan from the mapping application - I used COM 0. Set up the "Hardware" port to match what you did in step 2 - in my case, COM 8, 4800 baud. Check the box on the "Access" page so you can share the BT GPS signal.
From whatever application you're using (Google Maps, WLS, or other), set up the application to look for the GPS on the "Program" comm port, in my case, COM 0. I've had WLS, GMM, and a program called "Beeline GPS" running all at the same time, sharing the same GPS.
Hope this helps,
-Craig

Thanks very much for your help!
Your solution worked like a charm -- thanks very much for your help. I used the same settings in External GPS. I'm using with Livesearch maps and that worked fine.

Try "Com 0", thats what I use with Tom Tom!

Can't connect Bluetooth GPS i747

Hello,
I've the following problem. I've a MDA Pro with WM6. It's a german Maxstegi 4.7, but I tried 2 differnt ROMs from your board but my problem persists.
Bluetooth is activated and working. This I checked with a Siemens HHB-750 A2DP Audiotransmitter. Then I tried to connect my i747
http://www.transystem.com.tw/p-gps-iblue747.htm
and googlemaps, wififofum and Tomtom can't find it, regardless of every combination of settings in external GPS and Bluetooth. The funny thing is that Navigon detected the GPS on COM1: serial cable but wasn't running because of memory problems. I checked the gps mouse with my laptop and it's running fine.
My question now: Has anyone this gps running on a Universal with WM6 or does anyone know about problems with the bluetooth stack and how to correct it, or which GPS via Bluetooth works somewhere with Tomtom?
Thanks
Alsaya

I have 727 and universall and WM6.0 (but french FLA242). no problme just have to do partenership and open a com port (for tomtom and universal it's com4. uncheck secure connect

@stephane.papin
Hello Stephane, I tried com4 with and without external GPS - no success. Secure connection is unchecked. Any more suggestions, please.
Alsaya

I've Radio 1.17. Is Bluetooth a function of radio? Will 1.18 help?
Thanks
Alsaya

Samsung Omnia Pro B7330 - Problems with TomTom internal GPS

Hi @ all,
first of all a happy new year
I wonder if anyone has the Omnia B7330 running with TomTom 7 on it. I have the problem that TomTom doesn't find the internal GPS. I tried all possible settings with
"internal GPS"
" other NMEA GPS"
and all possible Baud rates and com Ports
but TomTom does not find the internal GPS.
In the meantime I wonder if perhaps the internal GPS might be damaged and I should send the device back??
On my HTC Snap (Maple) TomTom recognizes the internal GPS immediately.
I als tried to manage something concerning "Port Splitter", but most of these programs are not for WM without touchscreen....
Any ideas how to get this working?
Best Regards
Jolig

Hi, if you want to know if your device is working or not, try GPS Test 1.04. There is a cab file for it, "google is your friend" as they say. 8) If you run the program (it is good for non-touchscreens as well) and it can find a signal, then you have to fine tune your navigation software, if no signal, then you have a faulty device.
Happy New Year!

Welcome to forums
Hope this helps:
http://cellphoneforums.net/samsung/
Good luck,

Same Thing here...
...the Testapp recognizes the GPS on COM3 with 9600Baud and can work with it. The GPS Module seems to be working well, found my position after 10secs. TomTom however can't work with the GPS-Module... I'm on TomTom 7.910.
Any idea?
JC

Try this
-----Omnia Configuration-----
Settings\Hardware\External GPS
*GPS program port: COM2
*GPS hardware port: COM9
- Baud Rate: 9600
*Manage GPS automatically: YES
------Tomtom Configuration-----
*GPS NMEA
*Baud rate 4800
*COM2
IMPORTANT
When you make all the steps you have to see in the Satellites top/right windows of the tomtom a little Yellow/Black ball rolling, that means the GPS is working. You only have to wait to your Omnia GPS find the signal.
-> You can download an XTRA GPS DATA to improve the finding speed of the GPS, personally I can not see the diference between NO XTRA DATA and XTRA DATA.
Settings\Hardware\Enchanced GPS
*Enable XTRA DATA CONNECTION
*Disable automatically download.
*Press download button
With that configuration in my omnia I don't have any problem with Tomtom.

The Testapp also recognizes the GPS on COM3 on my B7330.
But it dosen't work on TomTom 7.910.
Is there a way to change the GPS to use COM2 ?

tom tom
Hello!
Do this:
use another phone with touch screen, set the tom tom gps as an external port and the appropriate speed,
save your settings. fire up tomtom on omni pro b-7330.
Can you type the addresses correctly? I had a problem with another phone with qwerty by tomtom7.

Erroneous indication of gps in omni pro B-7330 / no fix
Erroneous indication of gps in omni pro B-7330 / no fix
I need help, my gps in the B-7330 incorrectly indicates the distance of some 400km,
Is it a bug?
after uploading the google maps, fix grabs for a few seconds, and incorrectly states the place automapa (another program to navigation) also indicates the wrong place but other than google maps, the difference of some 1000km.,
I used GPSTEST 1.04:
COM3: 9600kb.
Is it firmware bug, or damage is hard?
using the settings from the post in advance Com9: omnia has gps pro, but did not catch the fix - no signal satleitów.
So, are you sure the port Com9?
So I need help

You should try posting on the proper section for this non HTC device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/filter.php?cat=Samsung

TomTom GPS Problem
chindley said:
-----Omnia Configuration-----
Settings\Hardware\External GPS
*GPS program port: COM2
*GPS hardware port: COM9
- Baud Rate: 9600
*Manage GPS automatically: YES
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Hi,
where did you find the external gps setting at the omnia. Cannot find them. thanks for your help.

Samsung Omnia B7330 and Tomtom Navigator 7
I am having the same trouble as the people above and cant get tomtom to see the internal gps - any help would be much appreciated.

thebiff said:
I am having the same trouble as the people above and cant get tomtom to see the internal gps - any help would be much appreciated.
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TomTom is pants on the 7330.
I'm using Route 66 (v7) with UK and Europe maps. GPS can be interigated through the menu and cold fix is quicker than most I've used.
No GPS lag, and other than the soft button icons sitting above the call and call end buttons (can cause confusion), I would recommend going down this route instread (no pun intended)
Also strangely, the 'browse map' facility is managed through the 'zoom to' function.
Alan.