Hey does anyone know where I can find a comprehensive list of HTC phone devices that have built in Sat Nav capability provided by the SiRFstarIII chipset.
In almost 12 months of testing a HTC Trinity, I have concluded that the Qualcomm sat nav is absolute crap. Too slow to be practical in town to get a lock to satellites even (more than 1 minute is useless) and it often loses signal.
There has been much discussion on here with people defending the Qualcomm outside town where it performs better, but this is useless. The Sirfstar performs well in all environments, and anyway, I live in London.
Also, has anyone seen this device
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=161302
Seems interesting.
Thanks.
In the specs is written that it has a sirf star III but I don't know.
I have a glofiish X500+ with sirf star III receiver and it works much better and faster than my car nav; if you have used it one hour ago it takes only ten seconds to connect.
The QualComm chipset in my Mogul works beautifully. I lock on satellites in about 10 seconds and never lose signal. Then again, I'm here in the U.S.
bombzhome said:
The QualComm chipset in my Mogul works beautifully. I lock on satellites in about 10 seconds and never lose signal. Then again, I'm here in the U.S.
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I hear some people get ok results...Where in U.S are you.
I'd like to hear how people in New York get on with these phones with Qualcomm chips.
I may have to go back to using an external GPS, but I'd hate to do this. It should just work from one device.
what about this HTC phone coming in May '08?
which is also slated to be the platform for Google's Android OS....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378720
but it uses NMEA 0183 , 20 channels
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster
go there, then on the right near the top it has gps protocol, sirfstar III is one fo the options. you can also add all the other parameters obviously
rory
rorydaredkign said:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster
go there, then on the right near the top it has gps protocol, sirfstar III is one fo the options. you can also add all the other parameters obviously
rory
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Absolutely fantastic.
Thank you very much
its fine mate, hope it helped get a device with good gps lol
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=105771
The Qualcomm will never become a Sirf Star III...
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Hy!
I was wondering out if tomtom is running over every kind of bt GPS device or not. And, in such a case, which device to buy.
Grazie!
You can buy whatever BT GPS device you want with TomTom.
No problem
Any suggestion? Best HW?
Tanks
I've bought the BT GPS receiver from the Route66 site (http://www.66.com).
It works flawlessy and is quite inexpensive (~150 Euro) compared to similar devices, most of which come in bundle with the software. If what you need is just the hardware, go for it.
Ciao.
Have a look at this article on GpsPasSion : GPS Chipsets Compared
You'll see that the last SiRF Chipset is the best one : SiRFstar III
An example of product : Globalsat BT-338
I use a XAiOX Wonde-X Bluetooth GPS with Nemerix chipset (16 satellites, lasting 18 hours).
Works like a charm with Tomtom and also quite cheap on ebay. Bought mine for 70 Euro.
Cheers
Mundl
Have a look at the test on GpsPasSion, Nemerix chipset has been compare to SiRFstar III... and unfortunately the results of Nemerix chipset aren't very good
"Let's start with the problems and it appears that the NemeriX chipset as tested with the iTrek is having a hard time producing a clean GPS position even though it kept the fix with a good number of satellites throughout, it's all over the place really and it's going to be difficult for the navigation software to give meaningful guidance at times and you will likely see some confusing map rotation."
I cannot follow that bad results of the test of GPSpassion. I bought it because of positive feedback in www.pocketnavigation.de and I must say that the performance is better than that of my former GPS mouse.
Cheers,
Mundl
HI,
my Qtek 9100 went broken...it has TomTom 6 and TT's bluetooth GPS receiver (SiRF). Is Polaris's chip (Qualcomm 7200) anything like SiRF or is it "useless", is it a-gps?
Look review here: http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-touch-cruise-en.shtml#12
I find that the built in gps does the job well. I doesn't have to be on the windshield or dashboard and still it has enough signal to drive you from A to B.
My globalsat BT-359 is an external bluetooth receiver and gives a fix much faster than the MSM7200 in difficult condition likes when you are surrounded by buildings, etc... I have no doubt that sirf III is more sensitiv and tracks signals better. But the MSM7200 is more than enough for me and my normal usage.
I don't have athermic so I can't comment on that.
Mine works perfect in London, it is my first GPS and as a novice it just worked straight off my lap in the car.
It's OK. LAT/LON is very good, but it doesn't lock as many sats as a SiRFStar III so not quite so hot in low coverage areas.
The other odd thing I've noticed about this chip is that the altitude reported is wrong, by about 150ft. Not needed for driving though.
So, not the best, but good enough most of the time.
I agree with LargePig....
LargePig put it very well. Sirf III is the best on the market, but the Qualcomm chip does a very respectable job grabing satelites and positioning data for navigation.
I can't say I've tested it in one of the great urban canyons of nyc, but in the residential areas I have no problems with the navigation system.
What are the main differences between Polaris(Touch Cruise) and Trinity(P3600) or even P3600i (faster but only available in Australia I think)?
If Trinity is updated to WM6 , what about the GPS chip ?
The P3600 has everything I'm looking for except a good GPS...that is why I was ready to buy the P3600 i (Dopod CHT 9110)(boosted version with more memory (256Mb Flash Rom) and faster processor(500 MHz)+ updated ROM and WM6)
I suppose I could have relaced wm6 uk with a wm6 in french but even that was no so important.
So maybe I better wait a few days for the Polaris (Touch Cruise) announced here in Belgium ?(although 400 Mhz... I would have prefered a faster processor like the 500 MHz from the P3600i...
As I know: HTC Polaris - HTC Trinity
Double ROM and RAM.
New GPS chipset with AGPS compatibility.
Radio FM.
APN 3Mpx.
Flush fitted screen for TouchFlo technology.
Dpad + Wheel.
New software packages.
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The P3600 has everything I'm looking for except a good GPS...that is why I was ready to buy the P3600 i (Dopod CHT 9110)(boosted version with more memory (256Mb Flash Rom) and faster processor(500 MHz)+ updated ROM and WM6)
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If GPS is in first priority for you, i have to inform you that GPS of Cruise is not the best in market. (A Sirf Star III chipset is far away better!) At least that's what the reviews from owners say!
as far as i know trinity had worse gps then aramis and polaris got better yet not to be compared with real gps recievers though
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as far as i know trinity had worse gps then aramis and polaris got better yet not to be compared with real gps recievers though
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...or not with ETEN GPS phones.
cant argue taste imho ETEN are eyesores
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cant argue taste imho ETEN are eyesores
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idk but for gps i find the athena is the best. i put it by tomtom units and its very close and also around my area always has loads of satellites. i use it as a gps always.
edit: i hope polaris will be close to athena since the technology is there.
I second that
I just finished a nice road test of about 20-miles around my area. I installed the latest TomTom Navigator software on the Polaris and used a Garmin C550 and a Garmin 60Csx as comparisons. All three were pretty close to each other in time to locations, speed reading, and logic behind re-routing. For a hand-held device, I am quite happy with it getting me within feet of where I need to be.
Hope that helps -
I have owned the 3300, 3600 and now Polaris. The polaris is the best. More memory, seems snappier, GPS is great (With good software, I prefer iGo). My main beef with the 3600 was the screen is inset. I tend to use the thumb for navigation a lot and found it hard to navigate. This is probably a person preference.
My wife now has the 3300 and loves it. It is a slower, and has less memory, but lives up to its specifications in every way. Also, for some reason the design feels great in the hand.
I really like the Polaris. The flat screen makes it great for thumb driving the interface. I also like the dpad scroll wheel.
If I had one critisim, I wish it had more hardware buttons similar to the 3300. I like to wire my frequently used buttons for quick access. However, AE Button is a good solution. You can resign hardware buttons based on Single click, double click, triple click, and HOLD. So one button can respond in 4 ways.
HTC Raphael, now called the T-Mobile MDA Vario IV in Europe, will hit streets sometime in Q2 2008. As for specs, we’re looking at 158 grams, 300 minutes of talk time, 480×640 pixel screen, tri-band GSM, a 528MHz processor, 256MB on-board RAM, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, FM radio, and a 3.2MP camera.
More : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/05/30/htc-raphael-specs-and-images.html
Awesomeness!
I am personally waiting for this phone. but it looks like tmobile got the short end of the stick with the pink and white layout instead of black and green. yucky
Hey! I reported on this yesterday.
oopse didnt see that one on the 1st page when i posted it , may be the emods can merge it
That really, REALLY looks like the shadow II spy pics. T-Mo USA too?
I think I want one. How much is a going rate for a second hand slightly scratched TytnII to enable me to upgrade. Only 4 months old...DAMN IT!
Nice keyboard!
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HTC Raphael, now called the T-Mobile MDA Vario IV in Europe, will hit streets sometime in Q2 2008. As for specs, we’re looking at 158 grams, 300 minutes of talk time, 480×640 pixel screen, tri-band GSM, a 528MHz processor, 256MB on-board RAM, Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS, FM radio, and a 3.2MP camera. . .
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Woohoo! VGA screen, keyboard sliding back to the Wizard side, and a separate row of numbers so Fn key not necessary to access, a Control-Key (double-woohoo)! - that's the way it should be! I don't even care if the screen tilts or not.
I really hope they're planning a quad-band GSM, tri-band HSDPA version also, so AT&T users aren't left in the lurch.
To echo the sentiment of many earlier replies, this certainly looks like an awesome bit of kit!
However, I think I'll reserve Judgement till it released.
Used to have (amongst others) a HTC univeral. Spent 6 months tweaking it to get it to run the way I liked it and without this board probably never would have got it right!
Only upgraded to a kiaser because I accidentally trone on my uni (RIP).
Kaiser is a good device but in fairness has it problems - NONE of which have been rectified by HTC thus I approach this new device with caution.
In fairness I hope it lives up to the hype - but HTC if you're listening PLEASE can we have a similar device but with at least a 3" (tilting) screen and an FM tuner! lol
Does anyone know if there is an external GPS antenna available for the Touch Pro? I was looking at all the posts on this forum, especially regarding lag time on the Pro and GPS and I wondered if this might help to reduce it?
I also want to say at least once that I have lurked here for years and apprecaite all the good know how that is here.
Also want to say that with CoPilot 7 I have not had a terrible time with the Pro. It does take it a good 60 seconds to find some satellites, but once it does the program works well. I do like my Pro quite a bit, having previously had 2 ETEN phones, a G500+ and then most recently an X500+ and I do think the ETEN GPS works better.
Using an external Bluetooth GPS receiver with SirfStar III chipset will eliminate problems with GPS lag.