GPS chip any good? - Touch Cruise General

HI,
my Qtek 9100 went broken...it has TomTom 6 and TT's bluetooth GPS receiver (SiRF). Is Polaris's chip (Qualcomm 7200) anything like SiRF or is it "useless", is it a-gps?

Look review here: http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-touch-cruise-en.shtml#12

I find that the built in gps does the job well. I doesn't have to be on the windshield or dashboard and still it has enough signal to drive you from A to B.
My globalsat BT-359 is an external bluetooth receiver and gives a fix much faster than the MSM7200 in difficult condition likes when you are surrounded by buildings, etc... I have no doubt that sirf III is more sensitiv and tracks signals better. But the MSM7200 is more than enough for me and my normal usage.
I don't have athermic so I can't comment on that.

Mine works perfect in London, it is my first GPS and as a novice it just worked straight off my lap in the car.

It's OK. LAT/LON is very good, but it doesn't lock as many sats as a SiRFStar III so not quite so hot in low coverage areas.
The other odd thing I've noticed about this chip is that the altitude reported is wrong, by about 150ft. Not needed for driving though.
So, not the best, but good enough most of the time.

I agree with LargePig....

LargePig put it very well. Sirf III is the best on the market, but the Qualcomm chip does a very respectable job grabing satelites and positioning data for navigation.
I can't say I've tested it in one of the great urban canyons of nyc, but in the residential areas I have no problems with the navigation system.

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GPS in OZ

Mates,
anyone using its XDA II with a navigation system in down under yet? AFAIK there are two systems available:
- Destinator 3
- TravRoute 4
Which one is better?
And are you using a car kit as well? Is there one that can be connected to the car speakers?
dont use one, but I would also be interested in knowing what works best in Australia
You may want to check:
http://www.oziexplorer.com
for raster maps
No automatic routing though.
Thanks, cairo31male, I know oziexplorer. But that is really too basic for me... nobody with some experience around here (must all be at th beach I assume :lol: )
Have you looked at Mapopolis?
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Have you looked at Mapopolis?
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No such thing in Down Under, mate...
I could have swore, I seen sum Austrialian maps from Mapopolis
JUICEe said:
I could have swore, I seen sum Austrialian maps from Mapopolis
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You refer to the pretty picture right under your name, mate :lol: yep, that looks very oz like but is more likely to drive you in the wrong direction :lol:
Check out these guys:
http://www.ow.com.au/default.cfm?page=http://www.ow.com.au/products/compaq_ipaq_travroute.htm
Have you got experience with the TRAVROUTE system?
I purchase at OW every now and then. Very reliable and fast - and honest enough to tell you if they have a product in stock or not! Should be normal, but try that with the likes of EXPANSYS :shock:
I actually haven't used the product in Oz yet, but the Navman 4400 Bluetooth receiver and Navman Map package worked very well on the continent with my XDA II (Thanks again to Towa for BTTools).
You can simply purchase a HP Backpack GPS kit from Navman and throw away the backpack and use your own GPS. These kits are being sold for about $550 in **** Smith, and who knows, some HP owner may buy the backpack less the software.
I have also seen the Leadtek BT GPS in action and would have to say it seems a lot better at picking up weak signals than my 4400.
I actually haven't used the product in Oz yet, but the Navman 4400 Bluetooth receiver and Navman Map package worked very well on the continent with my XDA II (Thanks again to Towa for BTTools).
You can simply purchase a HP Backpack GPS kit from Navman and throw away the backpack and use your own GPS. These kits are being sold for about $550 in **** Smith, and who knows, some HP owner may buy the backpack less the software.
I have also seen the Leadtek BT GPS in action and would have to say it seems a lot better at picking up weak signals than my 4400.

Tomtom + GPS bt hardware

Hy!
I was wondering out if tomtom is running over every kind of bt GPS device or not. And, in such a case, which device to buy.
Grazie!
You can buy whatever BT GPS device you want with TomTom.
No problem
Any suggestion? Best HW?
Tanks
I've bought the BT GPS receiver from the Route66 site (http://www.66.com).
It works flawlessy and is quite inexpensive (~150 Euro) compared to similar devices, most of which come in bundle with the software. If what you need is just the hardware, go for it.
Ciao.
Have a look at this article on GpsPasSion : GPS Chipsets Compared
You'll see that the last SiRF Chipset is the best one : SiRFstar III
An example of product : Globalsat BT-338
I use a XAiOX Wonde-X Bluetooth GPS with Nemerix chipset (16 satellites, lasting 18 hours).
Works like a charm with Tomtom and also quite cheap on ebay. Bought mine for 70 Euro.
Cheers
Mundl
Have a look at the test on GpsPasSion, Nemerix chipset has been compare to SiRFstar III... and unfortunately the results of Nemerix chipset aren't very good
"Let's start with the problems and it appears that the NemeriX chipset as tested with the iTrek is having a hard time producing a clean GPS position even though it kept the fix with a good number of satellites throughout, it's all over the place really and it's going to be difficult for the navigation software to give meaningful guidance at times and you will likely see some confusing map rotation."
I cannot follow that bad results of the test of GPSpassion. I bought it because of positive feedback in www.pocketnavigation.de and I must say that the performance is better than that of my former GPS mouse.
Cheers,
Mundl

SiRFstar III in HTC devices

Hey does anyone know where I can find a comprehensive list of HTC phone devices that have built in Sat Nav capability provided by the SiRFstarIII chipset.
In almost 12 months of testing a HTC Trinity, I have concluded that the Qualcomm sat nav is absolute crap. Too slow to be practical in town to get a lock to satellites even (more than 1 minute is useless) and it often loses signal.
There has been much discussion on here with people defending the Qualcomm outside town where it performs better, but this is useless. The Sirfstar performs well in all environments, and anyway, I live in London.
Also, has anyone seen this device
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=161302
Seems interesting.
Thanks.
In the specs is written that it has a sirf star III but I don't know.
I have a glofiish X500+ with sirf star III receiver and it works much better and faster than my car nav; if you have used it one hour ago it takes only ten seconds to connect.
The QualComm chipset in my Mogul works beautifully. I lock on satellites in about 10 seconds and never lose signal. Then again, I'm here in the U.S.
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The QualComm chipset in my Mogul works beautifully. I lock on satellites in about 10 seconds and never lose signal. Then again, I'm here in the U.S.
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I hear some people get ok results...Where in U.S are you.
I'd like to hear how people in New York get on with these phones with Qualcomm chips.
I may have to go back to using an external GPS, but I'd hate to do this. It should just work from one device.
what about this HTC phone coming in May '08?
which is also slated to be the platform for Google's Android OS....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378720
but it uses NMEA 0183 , 20 channels
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster
go there, then on the right near the top it has gps protocol, sirfstar III is one fo the options. you can also add all the other parameters obviously
rory
rorydaredkign said:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster
go there, then on the right near the top it has gps protocol, sirfstar III is one fo the options. you can also add all the other parameters obviously
rory
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Absolutely fantastic.
Thank you very much
its fine mate, hope it helped get a device with good gps lol
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=105771
The Qualcomm will never become a Sirf Star III...

External GPS Antenna?

Does anyone know if there is an external GPS antenna available for the Touch Pro? I was looking at all the posts on this forum, especially regarding lag time on the Pro and GPS and I wondered if this might help to reduce it?
I also want to say at least once that I have lurked here for years and apprecaite all the good know how that is here.
Also want to say that with CoPilot 7 I have not had a terrible time with the Pro. It does take it a good 60 seconds to find some satellites, but once it does the program works well. I do like my Pro quite a bit, having previously had 2 ETEN phones, a G500+ and then most recently an X500+ and I do think the ETEN GPS works better.
Using an external Bluetooth GPS receiver with SirfStar III chipset will eliminate problems with GPS lag.

sat nav with gps or external gps

Hi all,
not been here for ages. anyhow,
i am getting a varioIV on saturday, i was wondering should i carry on using my sat nav (if it works) with the external gps unit or use it with the phones gps.
i ask because i have breifly read about lag with internal gps, and it would be no big issue for me to use the external still.
if i want to use the internal i can use it with google maps or something.
i am actually dilemming over the touch pro or touch HD.
any suggestions greatfully appreciated.
mahender
Use either depending upon the access of the situation.
An external unit will provide a faster performance and a better receiver thereby returning better precision. When not in a car and at a much slower pace, use the internal when you need a quick fix for a location.
GPS issue
Great Question,the forums are full of fear for the built in gps on touch pro devices! However the vast majority of these quotes are 2008, I just picked up an 02 serra (touchpro) and it works great, the first ever gps link on googlemaps took about 5 minutes and the second ten miles away was around fifteen seconds. My tomtom gps receiver has been gifted to my (happy!) eleven year old!
Hmm, if you ask me, I would recommend trying the internal GPS first to see whether it works to your liking or not, then buying an external receiver if it doesn't.
See, I prefer internal GPS due to sheer convenience. I only have to charge one device and I only have to carry one device. However, it is true that external GPS receivers are just way better. I have an i.Trek M6 GPS receiver that works so well, it can get a signal deep inside my house, and it can do it quickly. The Touch Pro, on the other hand, eh...
Concerning the Touch Pro/HD, I would prefer the HD, but that's because I love WVGA phones. They're definitely not for everyone, though, and I would suggest you research each device carefully in order to make an informed decision.
thanks for your suggestions guys,
i have co pilot from my old vario 2 days just move it along with each phone.
i will keep this in the car and use that. then when im out and about i will use google maps with the internal gps.
as for my decision, i like them both i am unsure of the size and practicality of the HD but love the screen and hope the interface is good.
but i really love the qwerty key vario 4.
and i know beleive the HD is free on t-mobile woohoo.
it is also the carrying aspect HD big (ish) and the touch pro fat(ish) i think i will go and see them in the store.
thanks....

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