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WM 5.0 installation question from a new guy

Well I just got my iMate a couple of weeks ago and sold my Treo so I am now a slave to Bill once more.
My questions are regarding installation on WM, I know that in Palm, I could just copy the app file to the palm ( or cad) and it would not only run from there but would add itself to the desktop.
Can someone please explain the install process on WM, is there a registry ? Can I just drop fles in and expect them to work or is ther an install with DLL's, registry entries and so on ? If I install on to an external card and then do a hard reset, will I have to reinstall?
How is uninstall done ? I installed Destinator in the main memory which just about took up all the memory I had, and once it did not seem to work, I uninstalled it, but my main memory seemed to remain full ??? So I had to do a hard reset.
By the way, where are files tranferred via IR and BT stored on the device, can I specify another place ?
Hope someone can help me ASAP
AZ

There are three ways apps are installed on a PPC.
1) Via a setup file on your PC, it will use the ActiveSync connection to install it onto your device. You get the option to install to the memory or the card.
2) Via a CAB file on the device, you tap it, and start the install, then select internal or storage.
3) Via a program executable that you just tap to run, it is up to you where you place these files.
I usually install system apps internally, and everything else on the card. There's no real difference in speed between internal and storage under WM5 since the internal memory is also flash.
If you hard reset it, yes you will need to reinstall everything, but unless you really mess it up, you shouldn't have to. Letting the battery run down will not wipe your data as everything is in flash. There are a number of backup apps you can get, three most popular being Sunnysoft Backup, SPB Backup, and Sprite Backup. If you are new to the platform and will be tinkering, perhaps a backup of your good working config would be recommended, then after you mess it up with all the little apps you are bound to be playing with, you can restore it to it's good working state.
As for beaming, I believe it simply places new files in the My Documents folder, the only way you can change this is by the registry if it's even possible.

Some more info regarding installs?
I was also woneing where such things as favorites, voice dial recordings and others are saved, is it possible to back these up seperately ?

those are in the /Documents folder. And recordings are inside the /Document/Notes

Moving apps to SD card. Real advantage ?

Hi!
I'm considering to move apps to the sd card. But, I want to know whats the real advantage to do this.
It's just the more space on internal storage ? Or may be an easy way to "reinstall" apps after a system upgrade ?
If I upgrade to cupcake (for example), my apps still there ? If I just make the "ln" command, the apps "reappear" ? I think not, but ...
Any comment will be apreciated.

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you would have to have some kind of backup of registry or at least the registry keys for the programs you would be "reinstalling". Task Manager by FdcSoft is one good program that can do it (I think it is a module called , mine is v3.1). Total Commander is another one that says it can back up registry or registry keys but mine always gets stuck. In all other respects though it is an indispensable tool.
possibly the best approach to use instead, is keep a library of your cab files (make them read-only with Total Commander before you install so they don't disappear), and then when you do an actual reinstall it will do the registry stuff for you, perhaps more correctly than trying to piecemeal restore from registry key backups. I also like to save a shortcut to the websites I got the cab files from, to check for updates later. you can save to favorites, then get them from \windows\favorites in Total Commander and cut/paste them into the library on the storage card.
this way if you need to rebuild your system you have all the original install files in one easy place to work from, and a cleaner registry should be the result.

not sure about dream...?
my post a minute ago was assuming my news reader took me to the XDA forum for HTC wizard - however now I see you asked about Dream. So the basic concepts still apply, but specific programs I mentioned might not.

yes, the sd storage option will allow you to save internal space for stuff like email,sms, and mms.
also, as far as i know updates dont require you to reinstall applications. only baseband radio updates require losing programs. of course many people say you should "wipe" (eg restore) your phone after updates to ensure a clean install....your mileage will, of course, vary.

pinetreehater said:
yes, the sd storage option will allow you to save internal space for stuff like email,sms, and mms.
also, as far as i know updates dont require you to reinstall applications. only baseband radio updates require losing programs. of course many people say you should "wipe" (eg restore) your phone after updates to ensure a clean install....your mileage will, of course, vary.
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i've been RC29, RC30, RC33 and have not had to wipe at all .. you never have to wipe .. but depending and how much stuff you modify on your phone you could screw things up to the point where a wipe is necessary

I had to wipe when I went from RC30 with a custom theme to RC33 for some reason. I got the infamous flashing-android-loop-screen thingy. After a wipe it installed without a hitch.

[Q] Uninstalled apps folders and other remnants

Hi folks
I hope this isnt too obvious, I have searched for an answer and looked around quite a bit before posting and I think its a new question!
Im fairly new to android, and have a galaxy s2 running cyanogenmod7 and a kindle fire running ICS.
The Galaxy s2 has an SD card, and Ive noticed a lot of folders in there from apps I installed once, had a look, then deleted. An example of this is foursquare - I used to use it a lot with my iphone 4, but havent really enjoyed the android experience and to be honest Im a bit tired of the general experience so I uninstalled.
My question is, what is the best way to remove them? Should I just delete them? How do I know that they are actually not needed - the foursquare example is fairly obvious, but what if it was called something obscure like fsq? How would I know?
On a PC, you can get utilities which scan and advise you whether folders are redundant - is something similar available for Android?
As you can tell, I switch roms etc quite quickly and am likely to carry on doing so until I get the set up that is right - I dont want my filespace filling with rubbish! I know I could do a complete reformat but that seems a drastic step and isnt always possible.
Phil

I just asked my self this question the other day, if you delete an app folder and you still have the app instaled the app should automaticaly put its folder back in the SD card, its pretty much automatic. But not all the time, if you erase everything on your SD card and put it back in your phone, your phone will automaticaly put the files in the SD card, so its the same with apps, if the folder is gone then it will put a new one back in it to make it function correctly, I'm not sure about system stuff, I normaly don't touch that stuff like CWM folders
HTC Wildfire S (VM) "S-Off" "Rooted" "Overclocked 700 Mhz" Stock Rom

Android311 said:
I just asked my self this question the other day, if you delete an app folder and you still have the app instaled the app should automaticaly put its folder back in the SD card, its pretty much automatic. But not all the time, if you erase everything on your SD card and put it back in your phone, your phone will automaticaly put the files in the SD card, so its the same with apps, if the folder is gone then it will put a new one back in it to make it function correctly, I'm not sure about system stuff, I normaly don't touch that stuff like CWM folders
HTC Wildfire S (VM) "S-Off" "Rooted" "Overclocked 700 Mhz" Stock Rom
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Thanks for this, its useful info. I think Im going to just make backups then delete a few folders at a time. I cant do that much damage, starting from scratch wont take me too long if I completely mess things up!
Phil

There is no automatic way to detect which folder on the sdcard (/mnt/sdcard/) belongs to which app.
You will have to google each folder or look into it and hope it will give you a clue to which app it belongs.
If the folder would have been created in /mnt/sdcard/Android/data/packagename...
It would have been automaticly uninstalled.
This problem inspired me to write the App "SD Maid" which helps you clean up the phone. Unfortunately it doesn't delete those folders either, as there is just no safe way to determine to which app it belongs... for now...

Is this malware?

I randomly started getting 2 notifications; one saying I had low memory, a second that I was running out of space. When I clicked on the notification, I get 'attached image' screen. (I have never clicked on the start test button, it's big, and red... It scares me!)
I've done a fair bit of searching but can't find any topics/posts (searching "speed up your Android" is a bit of a nightmare...)
So, yeah. Has anyone seen this before? I have removed the last 3-4 apps I installed, but no change. I was using L launcher until it started overriding my screen with ads for a couple of apps. This would occur when I had installed a new app via playstore. After uninstalling, those ads have gone..
Any thoughts or help will be appreciated.
Cheers,

Franklee99 said:
I randomly started getting 2 notifications; one saying I had low memory, a second that I was running out of space. When I clicked on the notification, I get 'attached image' screen. (I have never clicked on the start test button, it's big, and red... It scares me!)
I've done a fair bit of searching but can't find any topics/posts (searching "speed up your Android" is a bit of a nightmare...)
So, yeah. Has anyone seen this before? I have removed the last 3-4 apps I installed, but no change. I was using L launcher until it started overriding my screen with ads for a couple of apps. This would occur when I had installed a new app via playstore. After uninstalling, those ads have gone..
Any thoughts or help will be appreciated.
Cheers,
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That picture tells me you don't own your device, someone else does. For starters, reinstall your current rom with the complete wipe and I mean wiping internal sd too. Remove your simcard before rebooting. Then get root, because if you don't, that would mean that Android system owns your phone. Just because you don't have root does not mean that system apps don't: They do (and you don't). So, get root, set it up for prompt and deselect "trust system user". You don't want to trust anything. Second, get Afwall from F-Droid and allow internet only for apps you use: browser, messaging etc. Don't allow system apps to connect to the internet. I mean none. Second, don't get any app that has ads. Period. If you do, you will always end up in a situation shown on your photo. There are many more things you can do: just read this forum, but these limited steps should protect you from major threats.

Ah, bugger. Thought that may be the response...
When do I reinsert sim card? And I'm guessing I can't use the .zip of the ROM currently stored in my internal storage?
Thanks for your reply.

Franklee99 said:
Ah, bugger. Thought that may be the response...
When do I reinsert sim card? And I'm guessing I can't use the .zip of the ROM currently stored in my internal storage?
Thanks for your reply.
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You can reinsert the sim card once you setup the firewall and whitelist the apps that are allowed internet access (all others - denied). You can still use zip files that contain a good rom. You can flash that rom and then format SD card before rebooting (you can also transfer known good apps to your external SD or PC and later put them back).

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You can reinsert the sim card once you setup the firewall and whitelist the apps that are allowed internet access (all others - denied). You can still use zip files that contain a good rom. You can flash that rom and then format SD card before rebooting (you can also transfer known good apps to your external SD or PC and later put them back).
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Okay, cool. So to confirm, you don't believe any .zip or .apk that I'm 100% sure were safe downloads (roms, gapps, playstore backup apks etc), might be infected? (They are stored in internal storage (HTC M7)). I was going to clear everything but if you believe them to be safe I'll keep some of my backed-up apps etc to save redownloading again.. (My current rom and gapps files too for that matter...)
Thanks for taking the time to help me out. :good:

Also, is there a windose virus scanner that's any good at scanning .apks etc for Android nasties??
Thanks.

Franklee99 said:
Okay, cool. So to confirm, you don't believe any .zip or .apk that I'm 100% sure were safe downloads (roms, gapps, playstore backup apks etc), might be infected? (They are stored in internal storage (HTC M7)). I was going to clear everything but if you believe them to be safe I'll keep some of my backed-up apps etc to save redownloading again.. (My current rom and gapps files too for that matter...)
Thanks for taking the time to help me out. :good:
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There is no way I can tell you that the apps or roms you have (which are unknown to me) are safe. It is your call. There is plenty of garbage in playstore. I, for example, don't use gapps or anything Google. I have no google services framework, so there is no way for Google to know what is on my device. Google even does not know I have android: when I login to my gmail (using web browser), I get an e-mail saying someone using Linux just logged in the account). So, I would transfer internal SD somewhere else and then examine each app (you can do it in store) to see if there are any ads. Apps that have ads are no go...
Good luck.

Is Android11 w/One UI 3.0-no To Blame For My Micro SD card's recent behavioral changes?

I'm aware, that only a few of my comrades in
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Y may be aware of this issue, and change since the migration to android 11. To help illustrate to you I recently, thru google takeout, downloaded my 45+gb gp music library, all to which it's destiny was sd card storage (as chosen thru my Chrome Browser settings). After all files were unzipped and transferred , the available storage space on my sd card hadn't charged! So yes, my sd card is OK too, as affirmation to one of the replies I received earlier stating since gaining Android 11 rhey hadn't seen any changes. And by ok, you nust mean the sd card doesn't unmount itself at will, or randomly throw-up an error msg like, "sd file corruption detected," just for giggles!
As stated earlier, only a handful of folks I know over on discord's SamCentral are aware of this change, so there's been little discussion of file allocation tables & tweaks, i.e., formatting FAT 32(or that's the current default)idk...this isn't my field but imo, I think they're saying currently everything is being shifted to external stg. '0' which is the common ground for all or most of Android O/S's, thus "arming" their decision with the "no purchase necessary" routine. Fact is, most folks don't require more than half-a-gig or more of on-board mobile device storage. "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."(RIP Mr. Spock, Leonard Nimoy). So,, if this smells like a patch of sorts to you, why haven't we heard anything, and when can some of us expect to get our money's worth for our sd card purchase(mine, 256gb = $100, in Spring of '19). Some of the "fake-news" spreaders over there(lol) are saying the most recent samsung shifts to Microsoft based apps/services & cross-syncing is the root of the cause, and they're probably getting closer to plotting a solution now that the big hill has been championed(ref. to And. 11 + One UI 3.0-no project completion)! I miss the functionality of not being able to use an interface I paid for!
(If any of this I've shared here fact-cks.out to be valid, and I become a hero of sorts, does this mean I may gain some of that XDA "street-cred" and snag a couple of likes)?!

tarHeel71 said:
This actually was a thought of mine shortly after being sworn-in as a beta-tester for Samsung's One UI 3.0h-no, last fall.
Is there a different format process for my sd card now with Android 11(and if so, why was I not consulted)?
Any guidance or insight on my query would be great. Carry on!
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I updated to 11 and UI 3.0 about a week ago and not having any issues with my sdcard. Only problem I have is that my battery usage as more than doubled even after a FDR.

tarHeel71 said:
This actually was a thought of mine shortly after being sworn-in as a beta-tester for Samsung's One UI 3.0h-no, last fall.
Is there a different format process for my sd card now with Android 11(and if so, why was I not consulted)?
Any guidance or insight on my query would be great. Carry on!
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What exactly is the issue here? Not formatted? Can't see specific data? I went through the whole beta and now on release and my SD card is "exactly" the same as before with the exception that some apps can't see other apps' directories which is a "feature" from Google.

Compusmurf said:
What exactly is the issue here? Not formatted? Can't see specific data? I went through the whole beta and now on release and my SD card is "exactly" the same as before with the exception that some apps can't see other apps' directories which is a "feature" from Google.
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The real obvious missing link to me was, for instance, when I'm signed in and surfin on my browser(Chrome, Samsung Internet, etc) and I save/download a file, it doesn't actually get saved on the physical sd card like it did before, rather, the o/s leaves the file in a limbo state of sorts, with whatever browser app!? I got my n20u1_5G back in 9/20, so while on Q if I saved, d/led a file i.e., using Chrome, I would go thru my Files then sd, then Android, then data, then find chrome(com.google.shrome), and there she is!
But, since beta school, whilst on 11, I do my Lil routine(as b-4), and when I goto Android then data, there's nothing, no app files(google or Samsung, as there were b-4)!? I hope I'm explaining the deal well enough here, as I couldn't be alone with this issue! Anyone using a stg card knows what I'm saying that isn't to be seen anymore! I'm using the same 250gb (high-end) Samsung card as b4, when I purchased my handset thru b-buy.com last fall(see jpg).
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"Android, then data, then find chrome(com.google.shrome), and there she is!"
BINGO. Yeah, that's NOT happening any more. Those folders are now SECURED from any other apps viewing them. Only the owning app can view. The files are probably there, nice and safe.
Right now I know of 3 ways to view them. Total commander file manager in the app store filed the appropriate request to google for "total access" and you can view them if you hook your phone up to a computer. The 3rd way is quite a bit uglier requiring you to make an activity to a legacy file manager that google accidentally left in android 11 but hid. I'd have to dig around a lot to find those instructions again.
It's called "SCOPED STORAGE"... Go read about it and cry.... I know I did.
So, NO, you aren't going nutz based on this. However, that doesn't preclude other ways to go nutz!!!!

Compusmurf said:
"Android, then data, then find chrome(com.google.shrome), and there she is!"
BINGO. Yeah, that's NOT happening any more. Those folders are now SECURED from any other apps viewing them. Only the owning app can view. The files are probably there, nice and safe.
Right now I know of 3 ways to view them. Total commander file manager in the app store filed the appropriate request to google for "total access" and you can view them if you hook your phone up to a computer. The 3rd way is quite a bit uglier requiring you to make an activity to a legacy file manager that google accidentally left in android 11 but hid. I'd have to dig around a lot to find those instructions again.
It's called "SCOPED STORAGE"... Go read about it and cry.... I know I did.
So, NO, you aren't going nutz based on this. However, that doesn't preclude other ways to go nutz!!!!
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Thanks for the reply...I've heard bits/pieces in talks with geek friends, and I appreciate your expertise here on this topic! But, why aren't the bytes getting gobbled -up(like when viewing sd card stg. available from the pull--down menu or from device care app)? I downloaded nearly 45 gb of audio files to my sd card, with absolutely no change there, but you see the stg reduction to internal storage. For what benefit, to them , google? Or just more of the ongoing sparing the two of 'em are constantly a part of! lol/smh