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duttys dual touch rom v2

hi all what happens if the rom installation goes wrong??
i am going to use duttys dual touch rom v2.

if you follow the simple guides floating around in the forums you cant really go wrong. Remember once the rom has installed to do a hard reset to get duttys rom working at its best.

You could brick your phone.

jacobm192 said:
hi all what happens if the rom installation goes wrong??
i am going to use duttys dual touch rom v2.
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If I remember correctly there was a thread which discussed devices that would not flash even though all of the instructions were followed. I think it had something to do with devices that had a certain date stamp on it.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I did a quick search on the forum titles but didn't see anything that rang any bells.

Dont worry yourself over nothing
Just follow the very simple steps as mentioned above. Been flashing for a couple years now and as long as you install the hard spl and follow the steps I see very little that can go wrong. Plus you really dont need to start new threads for a question, just ask in the existing thread or do a bit of research but like I said I wouldn't worry about it.

Make sure you install Hard-SPL first, then just follow the guides in this forum and you should be fine.

go for it bro would be very nice but the closest is dutty,s rom which is winderfull

Which SPL
Hi, I have researched a fair bit on flashing roms, and I am very newbie so please be easy. I just got a ATT Tilt and realize you have to flash Hard-SPL then dutty's rom correct? But which Hard-SPL do I use. I see there are different versions, is there any difference and will tehy all work? Thanks guys.

Use this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679.
It is working well on my Tilt . Just read the instructions carefully and almost* nothing can go wrong. Then flash the ROM of your choice.
*never say never ;-)

flashing 6.1 rom help

i have read several thread but none i could understand
first, i use hermes unlock v3: it said "success". i also have fat32 my sd card and place cheeimg.nbh all by itself and place it in my treo750. can someone guide me thru the rest of the steps please. much thx

Akachay,
If you have done this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cheetah_Upgrade
and it is not working, then you need to install the hard-spl. Instructions for this are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334100
Does this help you?
John

thanks john. instruction is very clear.
now i'm stuck in bootloader; it never prompt me to proceed. can u share the 6.1 cheeimg that u used plz

akachay said:
thanks john. instruction is very clear.
now i'm stuck in bootloader; it never prompt me to proceed. can u share the 6.1 cheeimg that u used plz
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if you are in bootloader, have you already hardspl-ed ? do you see olipro.... or what text in bootloader you see...
now you can simply flash with ruuwrapper your cheeimg....
like here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382612&highlight=discovery
cheeimg from this thread works me ok:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374381&highlight=fine

yeah i decided to try hard_spl method: step 1 was successful, step2 "unlock radio" everything went fine til the very end; it said error. can't seem to get past that step to get to step3. some guidance plz.
ps, my phone display windows 6.1 now so is it neccessary to run the last 2 steps?

akachay,
I got the same problem. You have to reflash with the orginal ROM so you have a proper working radio. then you can update to 6.1.
use the original desktop updater for WM6, edit the payloads.xml file, then flash the treo. then update to WM6.1 using the KaiserCustomRRU or the SD method.

akachay said:
yeah i decided to try hard_spl method: step 1 was successful, step2 "unlock radio" everything went fine til the very end; it said error. can't seem to get past that step to get to step3. some guidance plz.
ps, my phone display windows 6.1 now so is it neccessary to run the last 2 steps?
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Yea, once you come to that error, thats when you just quit, then go on to flashing the actual rom (KaiserRUU + Rom)
then after the rom was flashed to 6.1, them just use the update radio only patch .. although I have NOT YET updated my radio, after flashing, it works fine, no dropped calls or whatever .. internet speed is great .. but i'll update this post if it does stop werking..

Flash - What Went Wrong?

I've always fancied flashing my Kaiser (V1615) with a new ROM, but was always nervous because I wasn't sure of the process and didn't want to risk bricking the phone as well as all the effort needed to get everything back on it I needed. Well, a few days ago my old Kaiser met the floor and an untimely end. So I decided to take the risk and put a new ROM on it and decided on the latest Dutty WM6.1 ROM.
I read all about flashing on here and made as much sense of it as I could. Thing is, I'm very technical in general, but not very familiar with Windows Mobile or flashing. I found there was lots to read, but it was all written with an assumed level of knowledge and understanding of terminology. As a result I found it quite hard to understand. I took the plunge anyway and started, but things didn't work out as expected and I didn't understand why.
I'm not trying to be critical of all the work a lot of people have put into the documentation that is available online, it's just that when I originally approached this with zero flashing experience I found it difficult and confusing to understand. What I really needed was a concise and basic introduction to flashing. I've now been through the process and after re-reading the documentation it makes a lot more sense.
I worked out you need to run something called HardSPL before you could flash a new ROM. I'm still not sure what HardSPL does apart from CID unlock the device, but what does CID unlock mean?
I ran HardSPL v1 and it started ok, but then I ended up with a white screen. At this point I already wished I hadn't started, but no going back now. Is it known why some phones white screen? Turns out it's a common problem, so followed the instructions to recover. All was well again, but still with the original ROM.
I thought I'd be brave and stuck with it and this time tried JumpSPL1.56-KAIS instead of HardSPL as recommended on one of the tutorials. This went better and I ended up with the Tri-Color screen. I plugged my USB cable in and USB showed on screen.
Next step I thought was to flash a ROM onto the device. I ran the Dutty updater on my PC and all started ok, but when the update got to 18% I received a communication error. I tried to recover using the updater, but the same thing happened. At this point the phone wouldn't boot, so I was more than a little worried and wishing I hadn't started!
Found something that described several options for recovering from this problem. I decided to try and flash the device back to the original ROM from Vodafone. When I eventually found that ROM I ran JumpSPL again, got to the Tri-Color screen and ran the updater. This time the update completed successfully and the phone rebooted and was all working again.
I decided to leave the device as it was and started customising it myself. I'd still love to put a cooked ROM on there, especially if it helps with performance, but after the experience above I'm not very confident.
Can anyone tell me where or what went wrong? I'm going to get my old Kaiser repaired and want to try again on that phone.

My flashing routene (not ideal but it works for me)
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
Sam

Wow, I need a cuppa now
I'll go through 1 at a time... (and Sam has answered some questions already)
-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave

Thanks for the advice, but this is what I normally encounter when I read something on here, which is advice which no doubt makes perfect sense to the author or others experienced in flashing, but usually raises more questions than it answers in my head.
For example;
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
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What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
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Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
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So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
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I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?

BTW, not trying to moan about everything, just posting my experiences to find out where I went wrong, but also highlight some issues hopefully other flashing newbies can relate to and authors of tutorials can draw some useful feedback from.

Only one question, do I need to CID Unlock before using Jump and HardSpl or, the Hardspl does the Supercid ?
I'm not referring about SIM since I don't care, for now
With WM6.1 - Oficiall HTC ROM
Thanks

Thanks for that one dave, on reflection i kinda missed the whole point of the thread, and as for the majority of the stuff you posted i didnt undertand that to begin with.
Also, DaveTME, if you are wanting to flash a custom rom to youre kaiser. from my experiance and from the number of times ive seen this happen. i advise against asking for reccomendations(sp?) (not saying you will but its worth saying) try a few roms out and decide from there.
Also another thing to note. if you flash to WM6.1 remember to use a 3.xx spl otherwise you'll encounter a few problems with youre device.
Sam
What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
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download the Kaiser unlocker and run the first stage of it, the program is in the linked thread.
Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
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No, after the device reboots, youre given youre Rom, Protocol and Radio. if you hold the camera button and reset you'll get youre SPL displayed, youre looking for 1.01 olinex to be shown
So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
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1) Yes, just run the RUU with youre chosen rom and thats it
2) its not a minefield, just make a decision on what rom you like and flash it. theres nothing to stop you flashing another one.
I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?
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The 1.01 SPL will allow you to flash a cutom rom. following that you need a 3.xx SPL as they are designed for windows mobile 6.1. as for yure decision. i use 3.29, yet other users have had better sucess with 3.56. Most rom chefs will say which SPL they reccomend anyway with their rom.

-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
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Great. Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense now
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
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Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Thanks, will have a read

DaveTME said:
Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
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Read the "SPL Questions" Wiki Page, it is all there and fairly clear.
Ta
Dave

Help with flashing a new ROM

Ok ive looked everywhere and im slightly confused on what im missing ive searched around and cant find a simple answer on how to go about flashing a new ROM for my fuze.
Ive got ROMeOS 1.40.1, CustomRUU, and HARDSPL
I havent got the phone in yet its supossed to be coming in today and i was wondering what do i do with the .nbh file and should i install both CustomRUU and HARDSPL or will one do the trick?
If anyone could explain this i would greatly appreciate it!
thanks, boo

7boo said:
Ok ive looked everywhere and im slightly confused on what im missing ive searched around and cant find a simple answer on how to go about flashing a new ROM for my fuze.
Ive got ROMeOS 1.40.1, CustomRUU, and HARDSPL
I havent got the phone in yet its supossed to be coming in today and i was wondering what do i do with the .nbh file and should i install both CustomRUU and HARDSPL or will one do the trick?
If anyone could explain this i would greatly appreciate it!
thanks, boo
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Check these pages:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_HardSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150

Ive been to those pages but it still fails to explain on how to flash the ROM? Or am i missing something?
Which one should i use to install the ROMeOS ROM?
Sorry for being so lost its my first PPC

7boo said:
Ive been to those pages but it still fails to explain on how to flash the ROM? Or am i missing something?
Which one should i use to install the ROMeOS ROM?
Sorry for being so lost its my first PPC
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I flashed my first rom (ever) 3 days ago, so I'm clearly not the most knowledgeable person to answer this question, but I'll give it a shot and old hands on this message board can correct me. I will warn you though, you can search the website for this answer.
The wiki page is helpful... Read it and read this gazillion posts in this forum on that topic before you do anything. Make sure you phone is sync'ed with activesync, make sure your battery is over 50% charged and run HardSPL while your phone is connected via USB. HardSPL will walk you through what you need to do via on-screen prompts.
Once that's done, make sure your NHB & custom RUU file are in the same directory on your PC. Same warnings as before (activesync completed/50% battery) except this time run the custom RUU file. I actually used RaphaelWrapper.exe which you can find on this forum and this provided the same guided prompts on installing the ROM. That should do it.
What did I miss?

I tried running HARDSPL and it sticks on 0% what am i doing wrong?

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I flashed my first rom (ever) 3 days ago, so I'm clearly not the most knowledgeable person to answer this question, but I'll give it a shot and old hands on this message board can correct me. I will warn you though, you can search the website for this answer.
The wiki page is helpful... Read it and read this gazillion posts in this forum on that topic before you do anything. Make sure you phone is sync'ed with activesync, make sure your battery is over 50% charged and run HardSPL while your phone is connected via USB. HardSPL will walk you through what you need to do via on-screen prompts.
Once that's done, make sure your NHB & custom RUU file are in the same directory on your PC. Same warnings as before (activesync completed/50% battery) except this time run the custom RUU file. I actually used RaphaelWrapper.exe which you can find on this forum and this provided the same guided prompts on installing the ROM. That should do it.
What did I miss?
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Thanks, that worked perfect explained very well! everything went smooth!

7boo said:
Thanks, that worked perfect explained very well! everything went smooth!
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Glad I could Help.

Not able to flash ANY ROM with ext ROM although unlocked?

hello,
recently trying to get a different rom than the lite ROM by Cotulla to work (but it has the annoying wifi bug :/, and doesnt have an extROM (maybe thats why flashing worked?) ) but any ROMs fail at flashing for me. Some stop at 50% others at 60%. i guess it has to do with the ext rom, so i tried unlocking the ext rom in the lite rom, then flashed a different rom again. stopped at 60% again. ive tried the unlocker from the FTP where all the tools are. also i've read about the extROM password. what is it used for? do i need it? so, how to get it working?

Well...
WHY YOU DON'T READ README OF MY ROM?
Please go and read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468776
Section [Uninstallation].
You should do all operations. Then you can install any rom.

Cotulla said:
Well...
WHY YOU DON'T READ README OF MY ROM?
Please go and read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468776
Section [Uninstallation].
You should do all operations. Then you can install any rom.
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hmmm well i read it but i didnt know that that will unlock the extrom again :/
thanks then

hmm... but why you need to unlock ExtRom?
you already do this?
Uninstallation
1. You should able to use MTTY program for uninstallation.
2. Go to bootloader (Power + Lamp + Reset)
3. Run commands:
Code:
task 32
task 28 55aa
4. Wait
5. Now you should reflash original WM50 rom.
6. Now you can install something else if you want.
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Cotulla said:
hmm... but why you need to unlock ExtRom?
you already do this?
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i thought its nessecary to get other roms, that have an extrom, to work.... well its working now, after following the instructions