I've been a WM user for years, I had the same issue when I upgraded my Axim X50V to WM5.
I've been upgrading to almost every single ROM posted here.
After 100s of crashes, battery drains, radio problems... switched back to WM5, cuz i was unreachable all the time.
Is there any ROM worth trying? no battery/memory drain, no radio issues and no crashes?
Any ideas, thoughts, suggestions?
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aGoGo said:
I've been a WM user for years, I had the same issue when I upgraded my Axim X50V to WM5.
I've been upgrading to almost every single ROM posted here.
After 100s of crashes, battery drains, radio problems... switched back to WM5, cuz i was unreachable all the time.
Is there any ROM worth trying? no battery/memory drain, no radio issues and no crashes?
Any ideas, thoughts, suggestions?
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Try Jwrightmcps Crossbow Rom 2.12.08 WWE which I am using on my Qtek 9000 since it was released on 12/16/2008. I think his rom is the best. I am very satisfied with his rom. I am waiting for his next rom release that supports 128mb of ram since I had my device recently upgraded from 64mb to 128mb of ram by PocketPCTechs.
aGoGo said:
After 100s of crashes, battery drains, radio problems... switched back to WM5, cuz i was unreachable all the time.
Is there any ROM worth trying? no battery/memory drain, no radio issues and no crashes?
Any ideas, thoughts, suggestions?
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Thought: The problem's not the ROMs, it's something on your side.
I didn't try many ROMs and with one or two I had stability issues. With the 1.18 radio I had several radio crashes, but most certainly due to a weak battery. With 1.17 none of that. I also didn't have any issues with stability using a WM 6.0 version of thingonaspring's one and I don't have them with Ranju's 7.1 WM 6.1.
Idea: Possibly your problems have something to do with your battery or some software you use, that doesn't work all that good under WM 6.
Suggestion: Check that
Thanks for the quick replay guys,
I tried Jwrightmcps's and Ranju's ROMs, they were two of my favorites, I had some issues with Radio and battery, I decided that i'll buy a new battery and switched back to WM5 until my battery arrives.
Somehow, everything is very stable with WM5, I even canceled my battery order.
I'm pretty sure it's not software related, cuz I even tried ROMs without any additional software, I switched between radio ROMs looking for something that plays well with my service provider.
Do you guys think it's worth trying?
aGoGo said:
Do you guys think it's worth trying?
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You gotta answer this for yourself. This depends on the benefits you get from WM6\6.1 and how intense the effort you put into this is. And especially the latter one is something we can't even estimate.
I'm usually the first to spend his free time fiddling around with some technical details without any real needs and I just can't help doing so. So I'd certainly try. My wife's just the opposite, so she would (most certainly) not
About the radios, what's your proider and where do you live?
I can't help you much with this, but at least for Germany most people are satisfied with the 1.17 and claim to have better signal or battery life. But sometimes I wonder if most of this isn't just mambo-jambo. Nobody seems to really know what's really different between the radios and I can imagine that many fall for some placebo and the rest is just experiencing "random" changes, not structural benefits of changed algorithms.
Settling for the version your provider distributes seems to be reasonable choice if you don't want to experiment yourself.
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I just finish to download the new radio version for our devices. I can not tell you my impressions about the new radio version, but you can download in Wiki, placed on a folder.
couple of questions on the Radio ROM
1. It looks like it is a G4 Radio ROM. Will it work on the G3 version? If not, where can I find the latest Radio ROM for the G3 version?
2. Does it enable Blackberry Connect support on the Prophet by any chance?
Thanks.
Isn't this the Radio ROM from the Wizard? There is a topic in the Prophet part of the forum that discusses this..
I thought the latest original Radio version for the Prophet was 2.30.21.
I also tried the 2.47.11 on my Prophet. Reception was better, but battery life was drammatic
Wizard, Tornado, Prophet, Oxygen, Artemis, Excalibur:
all these models are based on pretty much same platform.
Latest Radio ( GSM firmaware) for these devices that I am aware of is:
GSM 2.67.90
Just thought that I will let you this know.
Yes I noticed that the reception is much better but at cost of the battery duration. Let me still making more tests about these new Radio.
my radio rom is 2.19.21 how and and how I would get the newst stable?q
The cost is very expensive, at least for me. Just one night, without calls, or touch the Prophet full charge and in the morning the batery meter is almost 26 % less !!!!!!!! Guauuuuu! is to much, you don't think so?
Let me still testing.
Yeah, I already tried this radio rom on my S200 and it drains a lot of batt. I don't recommend it to anyone...
I revert to the other radio rom that is floating around here, but I think that also drains a little more that the official ones....
so which radio rom version we/I should use? And where can I download?
I foud something is not right. When I like to turn the device on, (right button) to make a call phone or make a consult or whatever, the device is dead, so I have to make a soft reset. That's pass me very often, so I decide to revert to other radio version, I mean, to 02.30.21.
My impression about this Radio Version:
Pros: Better signal in all aspect.
Contra: Battery duration, inestable.
So, end of my private testing.
ok. this is something that I would like to check:
The standby mode power consumption is 21mA which it doesn't meet the spec.(but if pressing the key lock into
standby mode, the power consumption is 2.1mA.)
please keep your keypad locked at all the time and see if that will improve battery life.
I wish that I could explain better
this should be valid for all devices with this radio. not only for wizard.
Thanks.
SecureGSM said:
ok. this is something that I would like to check:
The standby mode power consumption is 21mA which it doesn't meet the spec.(but if pressing the key lock into
standby mode, the power consumption is 2.1mA.)
please keep your keypad locked at all the time and see if that will improve battery life.
I wish that I could explain better
this should be valid for all devices with this radio. not only for wizard.
Thanks.
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Hello,
I use a prophet whith an older radio 02.30.11.
Do you mean that when you lock the keyboard from the today plugin, the consumption is less?
I tried it today for the whole day and now I have 80% from 100% this morning which is very good! Is it because of the locking?
edit: BTW, how did you measure your consumption?
I tested this radio ROM long time ago when it was first posted here. But I changed back to 02.30.21 after one day.
It was a terrible experience, the device automatically reset during conversations very often. One day, I had to reset the prophet for more than 10 times!!!!!
So, I went back to 02.30.21 right away. And I also warned others not to install this radio ROM in this forum, too. I can not believe you guys are still so brave to take the risk.
@andrew_sh
Do you mean that when you lock the keyboard from the today plugin, the consumption is less?
Yes, that is correct. this bug present in 02.47.xx radio and is fixed in later radios.
I tried it today for the whole day and now I have 80% from 100% this morning which is very good! Is it because of the locking?
Good! I have same result on all my test devices.
edit: BTW, how did you measure your consumption?
I have not meassured it myself. Information in bold is per ... technical documentation
SecureGSM said:
Wizard, Tornado, Prophet, Oxygen, Artemis, Excalibur:
all these models are based on pretty much same platform.
Latest Radio ( GSM firmaware) for these devices that I am aware of is:
GSM 2.67.90
Just thought that I will let you this know.
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What about the 2.67.90 rom?
Has anyone installed it on a prophet?
Any results?
@andere_sh
2.67.90 is fine on Excalibur, Oxygen and Artemis..Really. much better than 2.47.xx
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@andere_sh
2.67.90 is fine on Excalibur, Oxygen and Artemis..Really. much better than 2.47.xx
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Can it be downloaded from somewhere ?
Cheers
hrb
I'm back to radio version 2.30.21 and everything going like a charm, fantastic.
were can I download for my prophet 2.30.21?Mine is still running:
2.19.21
You can find that Radio ROM on the FTP Or use the search...
I have recently flashed both the TNT 1933 TouchFlo edition ROM and the Black Diamond 3.1 Rom. They are both great but both of them are absolutely killing my battery life. I mean I cannot go a half day without the battery dying. What is going on with my Wizard? Is this a common problem with flashing WM6 ROMS, these specific ROMS (TNT and BD3.0), or is it just my phone somehow?
Its your old battery. Replace it.
jbbruce said:
I have recently flashed both the TNT 1933 TouchFlo edition ROM and the Black Diamond 3.1 Rom. They are both great but both of them are absolutely killing my battery life. I mean I cannot go a half day without the battery dying. What is going on with my Wizard? Is this a common problem with flashing WM6 ROMS, these specific ROMS (TNT and BD3.0), or is it just my phone somehow?
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yeah most likely battery dying if it goes that quick... but just to test, flash back to the stock tmo rom and see if it's still horrible before you go buy a new one...
jbbruce said:
I have recently flashed both the TNT 1933 TouchFlo edition ROM and the Black Diamond 3.1 Rom. They are both great but both of them are absolutely killing my battery life. I mean I cannot go a half day without the battery dying. What is going on with my Wizard? Is this a common problem with flashing WM6 ROMS, these specific ROMS (TNT and BD3.0), or is it just my phone somehow?
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It might be an old batt; but mine is original. I had the issue with Merlins rom for a while so I finally managed to find a fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367375&page=44
(post number 439)
This is most likely due to a corrupt Extended ROM. I flashed back to a stock WM5 ROM and reflashed the WM6 ROM, and the battery drain issue is gone.
Regards,
Rudi
Thanks for the help and advice guys, I'll try these things out and post an update, thanks again
I would like if someone could explain this phenomenon to me!
I tough that the radio only changes the "radio" performance in the device, like signal strength, bluetooth, wifi and so on!
I upgraded my radio from version 1.02.25.25 to 1.02.25.28 and my device is now actually performing much better/faster in all aplications!
Can someone please explain what is affected with a rom update?
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I would like if someone could explain this phenomenon to me!
I tough that the radio only changes the "radio" performance in the device, like signal strength, bluetooth, wifi and so on!
I upgraded my radio from version 1.02.25.25 to 1.02.25.28 and my device is now actually performing much better/faster in all aplications!
Can someone please explain what is affected with a rom update?
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While I do not cook my own roms or use custom ones, I have found from both research on here as well as first hand usage of updated roms from my carrier. The performance changes are mostly from things being tweaked or corrected. With custom roms that people here create you will find that they go into the data and gut out everything that is not needed as well as patch up bugs. They also make changes to different settings that they find are actually more efficient then the default ones.
With stock rom upgrades while they may or may not take items out but they do apply the same concepts as above. Modify settings to work better and correct known bugs. Bugs are where you lose performance. Poor coding can relate to a number of issues such as slower performance, memory leaks, device not functioning as intended and things running when they should not be which can lead to excessive battery loss.
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While I do not cook my own roms or use custom ones, I have found from both research on here as well as first hand usage of updated roms from my carrier. The performance changes are mostly from things being tweaked or corrected. With custom roms that people here create you will find that they go into the data and gut out everything that is not needed as well as patch up bugs. They also make changes to different settings that they find are actually more efficient then the default ones.
With stock rom upgrades while they may or may not take items out but they do apply the same concepts as above. Modify settings to work better and correct known bugs. Bugs are where you lose performance. Poor coding can relate to a number of issues such as slower performance, memory leaks, device not functioning as intended and things running when they should not be which can lead to excessive battery loss.
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That part I do understand, what I meant to ask was what the radio update changes to make the device faster?
That is what puzzles me most!
well said!
to be a little more specific to the radio rom, its still all about the bugs, cleaning and optimizing code. for instance if there was some bug causing a communication error between your device and the carrier, the phone would have to wait for that to be resolved (if ever) to properly use the radio (be it 3g, edge, etc.)
in another sense, if the processor cannot properly communicate with its own devices (radios: gps,wifi,bluetooth,edge,3g) it may take a chunk of processor power to try and figure out whats going on or repeatedly ping each device, which could slow it down.
my philosiphy is that if you can get the latest and greatest rom/radio rom for your phone, without bricking it, then by all means, do so. you'll be a happy camper when its done.
m.carroll said:
well said!
to be a little more specific to the radio rom, its still all about the bugs, cleaning and optimizing code. for instance if there was some bug causing a communication error between your device and the carrier, the phone would have to wait for that to be resolved (if ever) to properly use the radio (be it 3g, edge, etc.)
in another sense, if the processor cannot properly communicate with its own devices (radios: gps,wifi,bluetooth,edge,3g) it may take a chunk of processor power to try and figure out whats going on or repeatedly ping each device, which could slow it down.
my philosiphy is that if you can get the latest and greatest rom/radio rom for your phone, without bricking it, then by all means, do so. you'll be a happy camper when its done.
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Thanks, things make much more sense to me now!
So I guess that a better radio will almost always improve the device performance!
Now the only question is, can I use a radio designed for the diamond in my touch pro, or do I have to wait for more touch pro radios?
do NOT use a diamond radio. different hardware calls for different radio. just be patient, as soon as the US 3g version is actually available there will be more roms.
In the past, on my wizard, some radios had improved performance, while others decreased it...it depends on each revision to the radio rom.
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do NOT use a diamond radio. different hardware calls for different radio. just be patient, as soon as the US 3g version is actually available there will be more roms.
In the past, on my wizard, some radios had improved performance, while others decreased it...it depends on each revision to the radio rom.
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Actually if you read the Hardspl thread and some of the others you'll find there is no problem flashing the Diamond radio on the Raphael with a couple of little tweaks
hi there.....sorry for the stupid doubt. but i need them cleared by those of u who dont mind helping newbies like me out.
what are the benefits of flashing a newer radio version? does it improve battery life or what else?
i am with airtel in india. i run radio version 4.1.13.41_02.88.90. is this good enough or would anyone recommend a better version?
will be grateful if anyone can help me out!
thanx in advance
still no reply? cant anyone clear my doubt?
If you have no problems with your current version, why upgrade?
Newer versions are said to have better batterylife and/or resolve dropped call issues or have better signal strength.
But I think no one knows for sure.
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If you have no problems with your current version, why upgrade?
Newer versions are said to have better batterylife and/or resolve dropped call issues or have better signal strength.
But I think no one knows for sure.
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hmmm.....my battery is just over a year old and runs out in a day. i charge it daily. i run fireburned's lite rom and i dont use wifi or gprs or too much of bluetooth. do u think a radio upgrade will improve my battery life?
signal problem and dropped calls are not an issue with this radio that i have. it never has been.
after several days of testing have I come to the conclusion that radio 2.06.50.04 is "slow", at least for my region/provider (/DENMARK/TDC)
"symptoms"
- when phone comes from lock screen, unresponsive for one or 2 seconds.
- activesync/sms sending delays, when pressing send
- spontaneous connection lost, especially in bad reception areas
- comm manager turning "phone" off, all by itself.
my stock Leo was delivered with 2.05 no problem. upgrade to 2.06 resulted in connection problems which manifested in some of the above symptoms. upgraded to 2.07 a few days later, and problems disappeared. didn't give it much more thought.
when the "576MB RAM tweak" appeared, I changed ROM and downgraded to 2.06 of course . problems arose again. At first I thought it was the ROM, so I tried 3 different 576enabled ROMs. Also I travelled to several locations, locations where I knew there should be optimal reception. After 3 days of testing with 2.06, changed back to 2.07 on same cooked ROM, and everything fine (besides having less memory)
Just so you know why your new ROM can appear "slow", and it most likely is not the ROM As said, I'm pretty sure about my case, but hope others can confirm/deny.
- when phone comes from lock screen, unresponsive for one or 2 seconds.
- activesync/sms sending delays, when pressing send
- spontaneous connection lost, especially in bad reception areas
I experience the exact same issues.. Allthough i haven't seen my comm mananger turn the phone off by it self (yet!)
I also have an issue with poor performance when writing sms after i applied the 1.66 update i do however not suspect the new radio to have anything to do with that.
There is another 2.06 version 2.06.50.23 did you try that one? I think that might keep the 576 RAM.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m3jdozjjomd/Radio_2.07.50.27_2.zip
last american radio
576 enable
axl30 said:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m3jdozjjomd/Radio_2.07.50.27_2.zip
last american radio
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Interesting... will try it out...
it could be that you need to use the corresponding rilphone, but all radios work differently in different parts of the world..
You are trying to use one from a leaked beta rom, not surprising if it has some issues..
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http://www.mediafire.com/file/m3jdozjjomd/Radio_2.07.50.27_2.zip
last american radio
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will try that one, tnx for sharing!!
I got the German Stock 1,66 ROM from the Official HTC Page.
Noticed same problems with this Radio.
But i'm new in the Radio Area can i flash it to another Radio version without Hardreset my phone? and which version would be the best without hurting my device software?
i suffered similar problems with 2065004, since i installed 2065023 all problems have gone and battery consumption is great. i believe that the 23 is simply the improved version since it also gives the extra ram. it might even be possible that the radio's are different braches like the roms,(ie. 205 series, 206 series, 207 series) since only the 206 will give the extra ram.
vodafone netherlands
Use the new 2.07 radio here then (2.07.50.27_2) it still has the extra RAM
"downgraded" from 2.07.51.05_02 to the prososed one 2.07.50.27_2
can confirm 576MB tweak working with this version
will test tomorrow on several locations and test if this radio is more stable than 2.06.50.04 (which also has confirmed 576MB working).
Jack E said:
Use the new 2.07 radio here then (2.07.50.27_2) it still has the extra RAM
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and there would be no problems if i flash it von the 1.66 Stock GermanROM?
I'm bored of reinstalling all software etc. on my device ^^
For hidden RAM etc. i wait while the cookers finish all there ROM's , also WM 6.5.3 gets official upgrade i read
I update to Radio_2.07.50.27_2 and seem a little bit fast(is it because 576 ram?!)and the reception looks not very good
Cna you update the radio rom without flashing the main device? (I.E not loosing all of my data and keep the 1.48 rom but with updated radio?)
You can without losing the data.
which language is it?
the radio would not change my german?
what about this radio from here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
romskii said:
which language is it?
the radio would not change my german?
what about this radio from here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
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Does not support the 576 ram.
after another day of testing, driving, testing etc...
2.07.50.27_2 is best (for me ) supports 576MB and stable connection
2.07.51.05_02 also stable but no 576MB support
2.06.50.04 576MB support, but not stable for my region/provider.
after another day of testing, driving, testing etc...
2.07.50.27_2 is best (for me ) supports 576MB and stable connection
2.07.51.05_02 also stable but no 576MB support
2.06.50.04 576MB support, but not stable for my region/provider.
hope this helps people who before were "struggling" with what they thought were "slow" ROMs