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Can anyone with T-Mobile what radio version they have and/or which one they is the best?
thunda_chunky said:
Can anyone with T-Mobile what radio version they have and/or which one they is the best?
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I use IPL/SPL: 3.08 and Radio 2.69.11, never had a problem and i am in Queens, NY
I'm using IPL/SPL: 3.08 , Radio 2.19, never had a service problem and I am in New Hampshire
thanks for the info but you guys have G3's... i wonder if that matters?
G3, IPL/SPL: 3.08, Radio: 2.69.11, works perfectly in Oregon. I've been fortunate enough to never experience the missed call problem that so many speak of.
I use IPL/SPL: 3.08 and Radio 2.69.11 with zero problems. I'm located in Central Indiana. BTW I have a G3 phone but I don't think that will make a difference.
2.69, g3, 3.08 too in WA
2.19 seems very stable too, with a little bit less battery drain, but it does take longer to pickup a signal. both seem fairly equal in the reception (number of bars and call quality). battery drain seems like maybe 20 min difference on a full charge _if_ that and it may just be in my head, but i'm so used to having this thing plugged in all the time anyways
i did have an issue a few days ago, i think with 2.19, where txt messages took 3-4 hours to arrive, but i blame the rom i was working on or TMO... i hate their data network...
While the 2.19 series radio rom is considered most stable overall the 2.69.11 radio rom gives the best performance on the tmobile network...data transfer is significantly more responsive with latency roughly half what it is with 2.19.
For tethering 2.69.11 is the clear winner and I've not had any call issues with it.
2.19 Is King If You Have T-Mo In The USA
famewolf said:
While the 2.19 series radio rom is considered most stable overall the 2.69.11 radio rom gives the best performance on the tmobile network...data transfer is significantly more responsive with latency roughly half what it is with 2.19.
For tethering 2.69.11 is the clear winner and I've not had any call issues with it.
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2.19 is the best if you are on the T-Mo network
in the USA. You can even make better if you can add that Cingular fix cab with it. I will see if I can find it.
Technology said:
2.19 is the best if you are on the T-Mo network
in the USA. You can even make better if you can add that Cingular fix cab with it. I will see if I can find it.
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i know we all have different results with each radio, would you mind posting why 2.19 works best for you? better battery, no missed calls, fast data transfer, picks up signal quicker, etc?
IPL/SPL 3.08 w/ 2.69 Radio in Carmel, Indiana near Indy. No missed calls and good sound quality
thanks for the info. i asked because i gave my mom my Wizard (im gettin a Hermes) and i wanted to know what radio would provide a better signal than the crap she gets now lol. so from what im seeing, 2.19 or 2.69 seem like the better choices for the T-Mo network
My kaiser has a very bad signal compare with samsungi600, Nokia n73.
I flash all the radio already, however it only helps slightly.
so I wanna know is there any way to improve the signal of kaiser?
thanks
try using one of those "cell phone antenna boosters" lol
"cell phone antenna boosters"?
never heared before is it software ?
could you give me a link to the related webpage
thanks lots
http://evdo-coverage.com/cell-phone-antenna-booster.html
it is too big for carry...
are there any way to improve signal by software?
kob001 said:
http://evdo-coverage.com/cell-phone-antenna-booster.html
it is too big for carry...
are there any way to improve signal by software?
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try different radios. click below and pick one. if that doesn't help, pick another one. keep going till you get what you want. best I can tell you.
http://www.antennabooster.net/
I saw some internal antenna boosters, is it realy working?
kob001 said:
http://www.antennabooster.net/
I saw some internal antenna boosters, is it realy working?
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dont waste ur money
May I suggest flashing new radios.
My T-Mobile carrier in North Atlanta Georgia must've have did something to the local towers. For awhile I was using a radio that had full signal, untill two weeks ago, it only had two bars. After flashing a new radio, I had full bars. I flashed the old radio agian to make sure because it was the radio with the battery life, but it went down to two bars.
Make sure you have a correct radio, ie. radio for 6.0 or 6.1.
Just do a search, plenty of information, and this questions have a lot of answers.
By the way, those stick on antenna boosters don't work.
my rom versionis 3.03.405.0wwe
radio is 1.64.06.04
and also I tried 1.64.08.21
but It did not working well.
maybe I have to wait until HTC publish new radios, or all the HTC phones have pretty wake signals compare with nokia even with samsung.
thanks all your helps!
kob001 said:
my rom versionis 3.03.405.0wwe
radio is 1.64.06.04
and also I tried 1.64.08.21
but I did not working well.
maybe I have to wait until HTC publish new radios, or all the HTC phones have pretty wake signals compare with nokia even with samsung.
thanks all your helps!
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I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, US.
Radio 1.64.08.21 with 3.08.161.0 full bars.
Has the signal always been weak? On Monday, a T-Mobile tower was off for maintenance that whole day.
I am in Sydney, and useing the Three network (this company use Wcdma and GSM combination solution).
my phone is T-mobile version MDA.
maybe the version kaiser not working very well in my network.
lol, i was kidding about the cell phone booster thing, they dont work at all. just one question.......how is it that u are so sure that the kaiser has a weaker signal compared to your nokia or samsung?
because now I have three phones with me one for nokia N73, the other for samsung i600, last one is HTC kaiser. in the same place, almost sametime(I have to change the simcard) they shows different signal sutuation. for instance, kaiser only got one signal, samsung got 4 out of 5, Nokia got full.
when I use kaiser to make a phone call, in my room, sometimes it has been cut down because of low signal problem, it didnot happen for samsung and nokia.
therefore, I indicate kaiser has poor signal compare with samsung and Nokia.
and I wanna fix it as well. becasue kaiser is such a cool phone include all kind of functions.
the radio needs to change thats all test the radios till you find urs thats it.
hopefully, I can find one
I already tested
1.27.12.17
1.27.12.32
1.64.06.04
1.64.08.21
kob001 said:
hopefully, I can find one
I already tested
1.27.12.17
1.27.12.32
1.64.06.04
1.64.08.21
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You saying you tested both 6.0 and 6.1 roms. Since its a dual mode, go to Phone -> Band -> under Network Type, make sure its automatic. If not, I suggest just get a new phone.
I think the htc devices do have weaker reception than some other phones. I have had xv6600, 6700, and now tilt - all have worse reception than the phones my wife (moto rzr) and kids (lg venus, enV) have. Also my colleague at work gets a data signal on EDGE with his iPhone and I get no data at all at that location (4 bars for voice, rssi ~ 25-27).
Changing radios hasn't made any difference for me rssi values and #/dB of cells in fieldtest are always the same. I haven't studied the fieldtest program in depth, but that might be a way to objectively compare things.
nothing like that no diffrent than the others i have had quite a few my self i see drop signals after i flash but when i find the correct one its all good.
in your experiances, which radio has the best reception?
Just wanted to ask, if anyone else has had problems with their Polaris not receiving GSM signals ?
I have a HTC TC and it shows weak signal reception in an area where I know there is full signal strength available (tested it with couple of other mobile phones and they all showed "full signal strength" = 5 "signal strength bars").
Is the TC known to be "weak" when it comes to receiving GSM signals (which I would find hard to believe) ?
Regards,
Andreas
EDIT: The TC has started to not respond to the "ON" button at times, have to to a reset in order to get it to "wake up" again. Looks like I got a dud ...
Just wondering ... is there a trend becoming visible here ?
New phone, less reception ?
Cheers,
Andreas
It may be sensible to add comments as to how much improved or how much worse the receiption is ...
As I already stated, I basically am no longer able to reliably make calls on my mobile phone because the TC gets such bad reception
How about your experience ? Are you getting "bad" sound (noise, crackling etc.) or drop outs ?
Or is the quality of the connection OK, but you are not getting a signal to actually make calls ?
Cheers,
Andreas
Are you in GSM only mode, or does it not switch from 3G to GSM?
TDO
TDO said:
Are you in GSM only mode, or does it not switch from 3G to GSM?
TDO
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I'm in GSM only mode ... sadly enough
Cheers,
Andreas
On auto mode and I am a bit better than my Treo 750 was.
did it happen after u did hard spl and installed another rom?
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did it happen after u did hard spl and installed another rom?
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No, my reception was poor from the "get go" ...
I did hard spl and loaded some other ROM to test, but it did not get any better ...
Cheers,
Andreas
By your signature I see that you've upgraded to a Bepe rom and upgraded your radio. Please check this thread:
Reception Difficulties
You've updated your Radio, now you're screwed
Hi:
I'm using the 1.64.08.21 radio with Bepe .067 Premium rom and the system is doing ok with the exception that because I do not have 3G yet in my area, I have a hard time connecting to AT&T and it take a long time. When I travel to a 3G area, the phone smokes.
Rroet said:
By your signature I see that you've upgraded to a Bepe rom and upgraded your radio. Please check this thread:
Reception Difficulties
You've updated your Radio, now you're screwed
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Darn ... sorry ... forgot to update my signature
I currently have a TC with the original ROMs.
But from what I see so far, nearly 45% report a reception that is worse than with their old phones. Not good, is it ?
Cheers,
Andreas
My new HTC Touch Pro appears to have far worse phone reception compared to my HTC TyTN II for the Tmobile UK network.
Touch Pro Radio: 1.02.25.19
TyTN II Radio: 1.27.12.11
I've set my phone band to GSM to save battery.
Ot has been tweaked in no other way yet.
a) At home, I nearly always got a usable signal on the TyTN II with some drop outs. With the Touch Pro - its the other way round - mostly searching with occasional usable signal.
b) Travvelling from Leeds to Harrogate. The TyTN II would mostly hold a good signal with only a few drop outs. The Touch Pro was "Searching" most of the way.
c) Central Leeds, both phones have good signal.
d) Sat at my desk in Harrogate. The TyTN II has a usable signal where the Touch Pro only occassionally has a usable signal.
I love the device, but am very dissappointed with the phone signal performance. So much so, I am considering returning the device. I hope there's an new Radio ROM very soon.
I would be interested to hear other TMobileUK users experiences.
Thanks
Mike
Soory, this has already been discussed in several topics:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417163
Does seem to be a common TmobileUK problem!
There do seem to be a lot of comments about poor signal strength.
Personally my signal is the same as ever, but I think I may pinch my wife's T-Mobile SIM sometime over the weekend, just out of curiosity... Her MDA Touch has terrible signal in our house, so I'll have to see if the Raphael is any better or worse.
I am also tempted to buy the touch pro, and am with t-mobile due to their unrivalled web'n'walk data packages. I don't want to wait till t-mobile get their act together with the vario IV (they might include a updated version of the radio which works better with their network).
Is there anyone who is getting good coverage on t-mobile with this phone and if so where are you located in th u.k?
I'm in the Middlesex area, not very far at all from Heathrow airport.
Signal strength at home for me is pretty good, it varies between 2 and 5 bars depending on where I am in the house but I nearly always have a H at the top rather than a G! (anyone else other than me think that the Touch Pro's G icon is ugly? lol)
When I'm out and about away from home I've noticed much weaker signals though, never lost the network completely yet mind you. Thankfully I'm on a "Solo" sim only contract with T-mobile and my 30 day contract is already passed so I can now change it. Other people's comments about the network on here have scared me, so I've already got a porting authorisation code from them (I even told the T-Mobile customer service person I spoke to about everyone's comments on this forum, he seemed quite surprised to say the least) and I will be moving to Vodafone in a couple of days!
Vodafone Sim only deals are very similar to T-Mobile's prices (even better at the £20 level thanks to a limited time offer from Vodafone that's currently running) and although mobile internet use with Vodafone is more expensive than T-Mobile on a daily basis, they both do the £7.50/month for unlimited internet so I'll definitely be adding that!
Also has anyone tried these signal boosting sticky pads to improve reception? (I don't have any experience with these so don't know whether these things have any merit or are just a con)
tbh I wouldnt worry about it at the moment, the stock shipped radio version in my Hermes (1.06.00.10, or something like) was crap for me but remember people we get radio updates quite often even now for older devices so lets see , when the vario IV ROM emerges, how good the updated radios are?
Its all part of the game.
Perhaps once the issues for flashing diamond radios have been sorted then we could see if a daimond radio might remedy the issues?
Just out of interest has anyone here got a Touch Pro and is using it on Orange UK?? Since they both operate on GSM1800 and UMTS2100 any problems with the device should really occur for them also?
O2-UK and Vodafone UK (GSM900) stats would also be helpfull?
mrvanx said:
tbh I wouldnt worry about it at the moment, the stock shipped radio version in my Hermes (1.06.00.10, or something like) was crap for me but remember people we get radio updates quite often even now for older devices so lets see , when the vario IV ROM emerges, how good the updated radios are?
Its all part of the game.
Perhaps once the issues for flashing diamond radios have been sorted then we could see if a daimond radio might remedy the issues?
Just out of interest has anyone here got a Touch Pro and is using it on Orange UK?? Since they both operate on GSM1800 and UMTS2100 any problems with the device should really occur for them also?
O2-UK and Vodafone UK (GSM900) stats would also be helpfull?
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I am not sure I understand the "game" appeal of a £500 purchase on which people seem to be experiencing poor reception on.
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I am not sure I understand the "game" appeal of a £500 purchase on which people seem to be experiencing poor reception on.
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No different to any other area of technology, the fact is that if you live on the cutting edge and get the newest of the new and the best of the best, there will be issues, and rough edges to iron out. At least with HTC phones 95% of the problems will be resolved in a few months with ROM/radio updates and the wonders pulled off by the chefs here.
For those wanting a safe stable and mature platform from day one with yesterday's-but-still-ok tech, there's the Kaiser or Hermes. Or just wait a few months before getting a Touch Pro.
Best of the best for a phone which has poorer reception on my network than the previous iteration (TYTN II) ? I don't think the logic in that statement stands up somehow.
i've got same issue with t-mobile sim and pro. same spot kaiser has full 3g reception pro none
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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I'd say go again when TMobile release theirs, at least then it's all their problem if you want to send it back (again!).
finisterre said:
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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Or maybe wait for the SE Xperia X1. I'll skip the Touch Pro because of the reception issue. As the Diamond has the same problem since the beginning, I don't believe in a software fix for this problem.
Newbie question, sorry . I havent even fully worked out what the "radio" is! Is it the same as a new ROM?
My Touch Pro will arrive today or tomorrow. How likely is it that the signal performance of this phone will improve if a new Radio can be developed? I will have 10 days to return the phone if necessary, and change to another provider/contract, which is a shame as TMobile have arguably the best (data) contracts.
Stick or twist?
If you have this problem, make sure you report it to HTC like I did.
The more who do - the more chance of a fix.
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Newbie question, sorry . I havent even fully worked out what the "radio" is! Is it the same as a new ROM?
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A new ROM can contain various components. Official HTC or Carrier ROM's generally contain the OS (~100Mb), the Radio (~20Mb), the Splash Screens (~1Mb?), and the Bootloader (also small, but I can't remember how small). So they're fully loaded. Sometimes official Radio-Only updates are released, but from what I remember they're not that common.
Cooked ROMs around here are generally just the OS (and sometimes a compatible Radio if the OS actually relies on a specific Radio). The OS is all that you'd really notice much of a difference in, for day to day purposes, as it's the bit that contains "Windows Mobile".
It is possible to flash any one of the components seperately. For the purposes of solving signal issues, it should only be necessary to update the Radio component. If you do this, then all your settings, programs, etc would be untouched, 'cause it's just the bit of code that controls the "Phone" part of your device, rather than the "Windows Mobile" part.
If you get a Touch Pro now, and it's got bad T-Mobile 3G reception, you can either put up with 2G signals until a Radio update is released (officially or otherwise), or send it back. Personally, I'd do the former, as I can't see it taking more than a couple of weeks for the T-Mobile ROM to show it's face, and that'll have the T-Mobile optimised radio in it, which you'll be able to upgrade to...
Thanks for your reply sub69. Very helpful and much appreciated .
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If you get a Touch Pro now, and it's got bad T-Mobile 3G reception, you can either put up with 2G signals until a Radio update is released (officially or otherwise), or send it back.
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With mine, it wasn't that it was dropping from 3G to 2G. It was losing the signal totally. So I would have been missing voice calls too.
Perhaps I wasnt as clear as i intended in my last post here but, as a member has already said the reception issues are most likely down to the radio stack rather than a poor device, this was an issue with the Hermes when it was first released (August 2006) and it was remedied about a month later with a radio update, im surprised people are sending thiers back so hastily!?!?
The thing i would HIGHLY recommend is (once we have HardSPL and etc...) to flash the radio stack which accompanies the Vario IV ROM once it is released /leaked. This radio version (if different) would have the TmobileUK tweaks in it if they still do such a thing?!
Im yet to see if anyone on orange UK has the same issues?? (same bands as tmobile).
Which radio version do you find gives you the best coverage. I am currently using 1.71.09.01 and I am finding that unless I am near a decent sized population centre or a motorway I lose signal.
I have just switched from Orange to Vodafone and don't remember losing signal completely as much as I am now so I am assuming that maybe Vodafone works better with another radio version. Yes I could spend a while testing different radios but the areas that I lose signal completely I do not go to daily and it would take a few months to properly test all 1.65 and 1.7x radios, so I thought I would ask the community because I figure I can't be the only UK Vodafone customer using a WM6.5 ROM...
I am primarily interested in network coverage, then battery life and lastly GPS locktime (as I use a Bluetooth GPS unit instead of the onboard)
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Check the The Ultimate Radio Thread for other users on network, or look @ peoples sigs on same network, the easiest way is to flash and find the best as so many variables involved.
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