I have just installed one of the new ROM's (slueths) and I love how text messages now list as a conversation. I've restored my old text's using PPCPimBackup, but when I go to a conversation they are out of order. One particular one shows all of my replies, then as it gets older and older it shows the other persons messages. The dates shown seem to be correct though...
Is there a way to re-order the messages? Thanks.
Clear your inbox in the SMS program and then try restoring the backup again. It works for me, and a fair few other people have had success in the other threads this is covered in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1903404&postcount=749
That seems to have done the trick. Nice one, thanks.
Is it possible to remove/delete single messages from within the conversation?
Erm, is that a no?
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Hey, i have Windows Mobile 6.1 and for any SMS thats over a day old, it doesnt show the time, only the date. Is there any way I can see the details of the message or have it so it shows (day/month hours:minutes:seconds)?
Also, is there a programs that backs up the messages, but keeps the threaded conversations structure? Because Im using PIM Backup and when i restore my SMS from a backup, it groups the sent and then the received.
thanks in advance
hate to double post, but can anybody help me?
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I can't advise on the day/date stamp of older SMS conversations. However, in terms of the "threaded" structure, this is only a method of displaying the SMS Messages sent and received. Both Threaded and Standard views of SMS messages sent and received use the same database. I think they're in pim.vol, but others may be able to elaborate on that point.
Either way, I think that if you can successfully back up and restore this database you should be able to display the restored messages in standard or threaded mode.
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andrew-in-woking
thank you,
but i did successfully restore the database,
but when it is restored, the sent and received are grouped.
like this:
before the backup:
sent message 1
received message 1
sent message 2
received message 2
and then after restoring the backup:
sent message 1
sent message 2
received message 1
received message 2
theyre in the right order, just not like a conversation
try spb backup
searching for the same thing since I switched to 6.1 . and the only way I found was to disable the threadview with Advanced Config (or any other programm that can toogle this)..
I read something that other roms CAN have this feature that they display date and time.. but never seen that "live" :/
andrew-in-woking said:
Hi
I can't advise on the day/date stamp of older SMS conversations. However, in terms of the "threaded" structure, this is only a method of displaying the SMS Messages sent and received. Both Threaded and Standard views of SMS messages sent and received use the same database. I think they're in pim.vol, but others may be able to elaborate on that point.
Either way, I think that if you can successfully back up and restore this database you should be able to display the restored messages in standard or threaded mode.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
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I too wonder why cant we have the completedetails about the time stamp on the SMS like any ordinary mobile phone has. many a times one definitely feels the need to know these details..
Regarding the backing up the SMS you can use ppcpimbkup by dotfred..It works just perfect...
PowerSMS is free and packs a few extra features... It's what I use personally.
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I too wonder why cant we have the completedetails about the time stamp on the SMS like any ordinary mobile phone has. many a times one definitely feels the need to know these details..
Regarding the backing up the SMS you can use ppcpimbkup by dotfred..It works just perfect...
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antoniouslj said:
PowerSMS is free and packs a few extra features... It's what I use personally.
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you sure these restore sms (in threaded view) in the right order?
Hi guys, I have tried looking for an answer to this question on google and on xda, but cant seem to find one. Maybe you know or have seen the answer before and can help me!
I just recently put a new rom on my phone and then used Microsoft Myphone to recover my contacts/messages/ calendar etc. It worked, except it has jumbled all the sms/text messages. The messages are not sorted within each contact by date and time received. The messages are displayed in some random way. Is there anyway to sort the messages within a conversation so that everything is sorted by time received/sent?
I really need an answer since I frequently have to go back and check messages for work and other details and it would be so much easier to find those needed messages if the conversations were sorted!
Thanks!
I would be willing to start a bounty for a auto text delete app... like delete texts for each person after 100 texts... is this possible?
Its not auto, but try SMS Quick delete
No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
I agree with this post. I think getting sms quick delete to do a nightly scheduled delete would be amazing.
ebartolon said:
No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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I think youre missing the point.
I agree, btw something like this would be great. Either running to deleted messages by scheduled task and or delete message based on a specified count.
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No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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It's not that hard to mail a letter via postal service, but I'd still rather email.
I think it's a great idea, you could adjust it to purge anything over x number of messages or older than x number of days.
I'd love to see this happen.
OP I think you may have a better chance by emailing SMS Quick Delete because they already have the app started...
I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.
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I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.
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Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.
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Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.
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I see what you're saying, but if it's properly designed, neither one should really be an issue. If, for example, it's set to auto-delete anything over 30 days old, well, frankly if it's been sitting on your phone for 30 days and you haven't read it yet, then either it wasn't important, or you've been sitting in jail and likely have more important things to worry about.
Same with going by number of messages, you'd want the threshold set at a level where there's not really much chance of you not getting to it before it gets deleted.
Ideally, these thresholds would be user configurable. For me, deleting anything over 100 texts would easily retain a month's worth, but for my daughter, it would be blasting stuff that was only a few hours old. (I've honest to god seen this girl sleep with her phone in her hands, thumbs never leaving typing position....)
That said, it would definitely be a good idea to never, ever delete unread messages. Or, at least have separate criteria for unread messages.
isn't this a feature that's included in non-Sense messages app??? I much prefer that version, but I don't know how to replace the sense version with that one (if possible)
I think having delete by both age and number would be best... for example, if it could delete any message that is more than say 5 days old, up to the point where there is <10 messages left in the thread then stop deleting from that thread
and if you could adjust the two variables...
and:
adjust which persons messages get deleted...maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?
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maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?
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Ultimately, that's the idea. Let each user specify their own criteria.
To be honest, if I decide to take a crack at this, my initial "proof of concept" version would probably just have a couple criteria hardcoded in, and then I would add configurability in increments.
The actual "guts" of this program should be crazy simple to code, but being new to Android, I'm still getting used to designing UIs on the platform, so that would be the portion that slows me down (and also the part that I'm looking to get some practice with...).
the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself
Yeah honestly i am shocked that no one has done this. My friend and i have had so many texts our phone slows way down. And then when we try to delete txts of the contact(s) with the largest amount of texts the phone will lock up for along time or untill we pull the battery. After the phone lock up the texts are still there. i would be happy if all my contacts where limited to 100 texts. this issue normally happens around the 1000 mark (for a single contact) from what i have noticed.
Also this has happend on sevral roms that i have used so its def not a rom issue
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the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself
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Yeah, that's a database file. Probably not a great idea to edit it directly, you would want to make changes through the sqlite interface....
any solutions?
I hate the Android system of messaging just bcoz I cannot keep track of messages recieved, sent, drafts.
I need some app with the classic views having an Inbox, Outbox, Drafts. The only such app I know is SMS Manager. But the issue with it is it doesnt show the whole msg when its a long one.
Plz help.
Check out Handcent SMS and, whilst you are at it, the gmail small sync SMSBackup+
Not sure if they are what you are looking for but, at risk of teaching you to suck eggs, thought I should mention them.
Sent from my HTC HD2
Chech this one:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sms-manager/sooco.android.smsmanager.intents
I tried Handcent but it still provides only a threaded view, not the classic view with Inbox/Outbox. I noticed that it breaks down a long msg into a couple or triple of bubbles, which sucks !
Abt the link provided above, I have the same app (as I mentioned in my intro post), which is the only app having Inbox/Outbox, but doesnt display the whole msg, in case of long ones. Now, on 2.1, its giving me a forced stopped error on opening the Inbox, hence turned useless.
The splitting of SMS bubbles in Handcent is odd. I don't see that in received messages. In sent message settings the are two options which might be responsible :split messages and convert to mms. Check those out.
Regarding inbox/outbox view: there is a separate view for undelivered messages : goto main (middle button) settings and look under "more". Probably not what you're looking for although I noticed you did not type inbox/sent.
I know it's not the same as folders with counts of unread.
Good luck with your hunt.
Sent from my HTC HD2
The handcent message bubble splitting issue is wierd, I have not faced it as of yet, been using it for over a month with no issues of that sort
Sent from my GT-I5800
niraj87 said:
I hate the Android system of messaging just bcoz I cannot keep track of messages recieved, sent, drafts.
I need some app with the classic views having an Inbox, Outbox, Drafts. The only such app I know is SMS Manager. But the issue with it is it doesnt show the whole msg when its a long one.
Plz help.
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I believe, you might want this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.pansi.msg&feature=search_result
Pansi sms got both classic Inbox, sent etc view and conversation views.
I'm using it on Tattoo..
GOSMS is what u need it has everything
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Pansi SMS is having this as an option (inbox outbox sent draft folders)
Love the new phone so far with one minor problem. Is there an easier way to delete text messages from the device? As it is now I have to press and hold on each message, then click on delete from the menu that pops up.
Not normally a big deal but if you get alot of sms notifications from various message boards/ texts / etc... its a royal pain to have to manually delete 20-30 messages one at a time like that.
if you go back one screen to the list of contacts instead of the list of individual messages, you can delete all messages from a single contact by long pressing.
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if you go back one screen to the list of contacts instead of the list of individual messages, you can delete all messages from a single contact by long pressing.
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Thats the screen I was referring to. My problem is that all of the forum notifications that I get come from a different "number" for each message/thread so they dont get threaded together. When I had my iphone 2G there was a delete all ap that cleared all of the messages at once. I loved that ap and was hoping for something similar, or another way to selected multiple messages at once (with checkboxes) then delete them as a group.
SMS backup and restore in the market for free has a delete all. Also lets you back all up to an XML file and restore, no root needed.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
i would suggest using a different mms client. i prefer handcent.