Just to clear up what nobody at HTC support or Expansys knows for sure is that YES the UK model of the TC HSDPA /3G does work in the USA. I just bought mine in LOndon last week got home yesterday and it works great very fast. Better than my HTC Tilt did. tested the speed and it is 98kb download with the H showing at the top of the phone I live in Los Angeles. Hope this helps others wanting to buy this phone. Glad i toook a chance and bought it hoping it wiroked . IT DOES. WORK!!!!
Yes, for those who are not sure, the Touch Cruise is a tri-band umts phone (and quad band gsm).
I live in Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas and bought mine online and it came from Europe. It works in the Dallas areas at 3g speeds clocked at approx 1.5mb. ATT mobility.
It also works in the UK at 3g speeds of close to 700Kbps and 3g in Italy (traveling in Europe this week). Truely amazing phone/pda. Even the TomTom gps is perfect, kept me from getting lost in Germany this week.
"3G does work in the USA. I just bought mine in LOndon last week got home yesterday and it works great very fast. Better than my HTC Tilt did"
it's unclear if you used to use a tilt in the usa but if you did then tc is pretty much the same hardware give and take a bit
and they support the same networks
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Hi,
My daughter will be in South Korea for a year.
I would like to set her up with an HTC phone either the Touch Pro or Touch Diamond. I understand that either will support WCDMA or GSM.
Will there be any issues? Any suggestions on another phone or perhaps a good plan in S. Korea?
We expect to use skype on the phone. How is the open wifi availability?
I did SEARCH the forums and most hits were outdated. But, if you must, flame away!
Thanks and Regards,
Jim
jjttnn said:
Hi,
My daughter will be in South Korea for a year.
I would like to set her up with an HTC phone either the Touch Pro or Touch Diamond. I understand that either will support WCDMA or GSM.
Will there be any issues? Any suggestions on another phone or perhaps a good plan in S. Korea?
We expect to use skype on the phone. How is the open wifi availability?
I did SEARCH the forums and most hits were outdated. But, if you must, flame away!
Thanks and Regards,
Jim
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Welcome
As far as I know the limitations won´t be on the phone so look into the provider to choose a plan that cover overseas with a good deal!
Good luck,
as far as i know if phones work outside usa and some other american countries
it works in korea too
as in things which are likely to be incomaptible would be cdma (not wcdma because that seem to be what some people call umts/3g)
and 850Mhz gsm and 2100 umts
Last I heard (and I could be wrong or it could have changed since) was that Korea used CDMA networks with SIM Cards, yeah it sounded strange to me at the time also.
You need to confirm what Bands/network types are being used in Korea then you can find your answers...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone
it's not 100% clear but seem to state that korea have several systems
"There are three major technical standards for the current generation of mobile phones and networks, and two major standards for the next generation 3G phones and networks. All European and African countries and many Asian countries have adopted a single system, GSM, which is the only technology available on all continents and in most countries and covers over 74% of all subscribers on mobile networks. In many countries, such as the United States, Australia, Brazil, Canada, Costa Rica, India,, South Korea, and Vietnam, GSM co-exists with other internationally adopted standards such as CDMA and TDMA, as well as national standards such as iDEN in the USA and PDC in Japan. Over the past five years several dozen mobile operators (carriers) have abandoned networks on TDMA and CDMA technologies, switching over to GSM."
Everyone, thanks for your input. We got a Kaiser and will be setting it up over the next few days. Should have some good information from her in a couple of weeks.
Searching/Looking for a good radio now.
Regards
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Will there be any issues? Any suggestions on another phone or perhaps a good plan in S. Korea?
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When I was in Seoul and Busan last year, my GSM quad-band phone did not get any signal. The hotels I stayed at provided their customers a cell phone to use for the stay, and mentioned that US phones -- GSM or CDMA -- would not work in Korea. I would call a provider and ask, just to be sure.
Thanks pavankp, you scared me to action. You are correct, turns out a 3g phone is needed, a quad-band is not enough. Found this at att: http://www.att.com/Common/merger/files/pdf/international_calling/International_Travel_Tips-FS.pdf
Excerpt: A GSM quad-band phone (that works on 850/900/1800/1900 MHz frequencies) provides the widest coverage internationally. Most AT&T phones in stores today are quad-band. For travel to Japan or South Korea, your phone must operate on 3G technology at 2100 MHz. Phones that will operate in Japan and South Korea include the BlackBerry Bold, iPhone 3G, BlackJack II, Sony Ericsson z750, HTC Fuze, LG Incite, Samsung Epix and AT&T Quickfire. ...
Regards.
I spent time in S Korea in the Army. Camp Casey. Sucked. LOL. But that was back in 2000 so I'm sure a lot has changed. But you couldn't get regular AT&T service there. The phones you buy there are a little different. I think the technology is better in my opinion. Back in 2000 the phones there already had colored screens! Granted that most of them was not in English so I really had no interest in playing around with one to see what was so special about it. Wish her luck for me though.
Hi guys, I recently acquired an HTC Wizard, I unlocked it and flashed a custom rom and I really like the phone but I'm looking to upgrade. The phones I've been looking at are the Dream, Kaiser and the Fuze. I've read the reviews on the G1 and it looks good but I'm not sure I'm ready to give up windows mobile (office is handy for work). But since I hear such good things, hows it compare to the others? Is the Fuze really worth me shelling out more cash over the Kaiser (about $150-$200 on ebay)? I'm also wondering if there are any other HTC models that offer everything I want without seriously breaking the bank. It needs to have mp3, video, net, keyboard, GPS, 3g, wifi, tetherable, touchscreen and needs to be unlockable or T-mobile based. Basically just looking for some advice on the best buy for my buck. Even if it's not necessarily an HTC (hope I don't get flamed for this =P). Also one more quick question, if I'm currently on T-mobile with the non 3g wizard and I pop my sim into a 3g phone, it will work at 3g speeds without me needing to do anything (provided coverage is in my area) ? Thanks in advance.
I miss my Fuze. I ended up returning it to get a Xperia, and I regret it, due to the Xperia's subpar keyboard.
On the other hand, the Touch Pro 2 will be out soon in the US (as the HTC Fortress on AT&T at an indeterminate date and the T-Mobile Wing II in July), and that should be everything the Fuze is and more (thinner, better battery life, larger and higher res screen, etc). I'd wait for that.
As for the sim swap question, yes, it should work, assuming the phone you pop your T-Mobile sim in supports 3G at 850MHz, as that's the only frequency T-Mobile uses for 3G (as opposed to AT&T, which uses 850 and 1900 depending on area). If you use a Euro phone, expect it to only work in 1900MHz areas in the US if at all. Phones actually marketed for the US will support both 850 and 1900 bands, which means you won't have a problem.
Thanks for the info. Any idea on the cost of the touch pro 2? I wasn't really looking to break the bank but I am intrigued.
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Thanks for the info. Any idea on the cost of the touch pro 2? I wasn't really looking to break the bank but I am intrigued.
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Welcome to the forum
Depending on your conuntry the price varies
Have a look on expansys to ha an idea
$600-$800USD
That's without a contract, of course. AT&T and T-Mobile should both have the Touch Pro 2 for $150-300 depending on where you order it with plans, if my guess is accurate.
Yea just checked out a video on it and it looks really nice, I'm currently on a prepaid month to month thingy with t-mobile but if I can score this phone for $200 or so with a new contract I might have too. However for the time being I might have to go pick up a Kaiser, they are half the price of the fuze used and although not as sexy still do everything I'm looking for.
Doesn't T-mobile use 1700mhz for 3g and 850 for edge/gprs? From what I've been reading the kaiser wont do 3g on T-mobile.
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Doesn't T-mobile use 1700mhz for 3g and 850 for edge/gprs? From what I've been reading the kaiser wont do 3g on T-mobile.
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Tmob uses 1700 & 2100 fro 3g (must have both)! Kaeser will not do tmob 3g!
Tmob edge uses 850...
Here's the TP2 new owner excitement forum section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=488
Hey guys I will be in the USA for 3 weeks soon and I have a HTC Desire..
What would be the best prepaid carrier for that phone? I guess I don't really have a big choice since there only are 2 GSM carriers, and none of them does support the 3G frequencies my Desire is Using... but well I would be fine with EDGE so I can at least use my Google Nav. and get my way around the public transportation system (GPRS would suck hard..)
I'll be in Michigan(Detroit area) as well as in Utah(Salt lake area). also most of my friends are on Verizon so id does not matter what carrier...
Any Ideas?
I would go with AT&T as they have better coverage than TMobile does. I have both right now and a lot of the time when my Tmo work phone has no coverage, my AT&T personal phone has at least edge and usually 3G.
Hope this helps.......Later
I am looking to upgrade but buy the phone unlocked out of pocket to keep my old rates.
The problem is the frequency for the AT&Ts 3g, I live near Cleveland.
This site lists the bands the phone uses.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_3d-review-622.php
Works with AT&T EDGE and AT&T 1900mhz 3G - Does not work with 850mhz 3G
Works with Tmobile EDGE and 3G
I read Cleveland uses 1900mhz it should be good for now but I also read they will use 850mhz
When they remove the edge.
Should I avoid getting the unlocked phone out now and wait to by the Thrill out of contract when its released?
I have been running my HTC Hermes since 2006 (wm6.1 rom CRCs r13.5)
5 years and a few repairs later I am ready to move on...
Since I bought my Hermes unlocked out of pocket overseas I have been running
my data plans under a grandfathered price locked when I bought my Motorola mpx220 7+years ago.
Wait till thrill as far as I know from my friends at radio shack and AT&T it still set to release aug. 21st which is sunday
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Hello guys, I moved to Germany a while ago. Yesterday I went ahead and signed a contract by o2. Little did I know that I won't receive any LTE signal. I live in Chemnitz in Sachsen. I checked the bands and some of them, the ones in or around the centre at least, should give me LTE signal. The most I get is H+ though.
Any ideas how to solve this?
Almayce said:
Hello guys, I moved to Germany a while ago. Yesterday I went ahead and signed a contract by o2. Little did I know that I won't receive any LTE signal. I live in Chemnitz in Sachsen. I checked the bands and some of them, the ones in or around the centre at least, should give me LTE signal. The most I get is H+ though.
Any ideas how to solve this?
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I live in germany too and with Simyo (uses E-Plus network) I get LTE but only in big citys in the area I live. I've read somewhere that with O2 you won't get LTE in germany, but I'll ask a friend of mine who has also an 1+1 and an O2 contract.
Edit: He doesn't have LTE and he sayed that's the reason because the 1+1 doesn't have "Band 20"
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I live in germany too and with Simyo (uses E-Plus network) I get LTE but only in big citys in the area I live. I've read somewhere that with O2 you won't get LTE in germany, but I'll ask a friend of mine who has also an 1+1 and an O2 contract.
Edit: He doesn't have LTE and he sayed that's the reason because the 1+1 doesn't have "Band 20"
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Looks like big chunks of the LTE on O2 .de is on band 20 LTE which the oneplus does not support nor can be made to support.
Thanks guys, we'll that's a bummer to be honest. Is there a way to cancel the contract?
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Thanks guys, we'll that's a bummer to be honest. Is there a way to cancel the contract?
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I think you should just go there and ask, because about 1 month ago O2 and E-Plus decided that users with either O2 or E-Plus can use both networks so maybe you are lucky...
Oh that would be super cool, thanks a bunch! I will let you know how I ended up
Well it seems that no dice after all. Sadly. It's like you said, I can use both networks and it's happening automatically. What I can't wrap my head around is this though :I used to have Blau. De. Now that's a small provider and I had only a prepaid card. Funny thing is that I had lte reception with this provider almost everywhere in the city, half the signal, but still AND this provider uses the SAME network as o2. So what the hell can I do now, since basically I'm in the same network but I can no longer have lte.
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Well it seems that no dice after all. Sadly. It's like you said, I can use both networks and it's happening automatically. What I can't wrap my head around is this though :I used to have Blau. De. Now that's a small provider and I had only a prepaid card. Funny thing is that I had lte reception with this provider almost everywhere in the city, half the signal, but still AND this provider uses the SAME network as o2. So what the hell can I do now, since basically I'm in the same network but I can no longer have lte.
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I googled a little bit and they just sayed what we already know, with O2 you'll not have LTE very often, with T-Mobile only in CItys and with Vodafone often in Citycenters, only E-Plus doesn't use the Band which is not supported by our device... And blau .de uses the E-Plus network(just checked it on google) so this is why you have LTE with their prepaid card.
Well I guess I have to live with H+ now. That's only fitting, because I was too stupid and lazy to check it beforehand. Suits me well. Thanks a bunch for your help though, I really appreciate it
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Well I guess I have to live with H+ now. That's only fitting, because I was too stupid and lazy to check it beforehand. Suits me well. Thanks a bunch for your help though, I really appreciate it
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For me H+ is still faster than my normal internet at home(360kb/s 1GB=1hour), so for me it doesn't matter
Well I'm not downloading anything on cellular data. The problem is that Hspda sucks battery like hell compared to lte.
1+1 doesnt support 800mhz LTE this is used in Germany for wide ranges! In citys there is a higher frequency that 1+1 supports for high speed LTE
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1+1 doesnt support 800mhz LTE this is used in Germany for wide ranges! In citys there is a higher frequency that 1+1 supports for high speed LTE
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Yes but not with the contract he has(O2), they have just 800mhz LTE
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Yes but not with the contract he has(O2), they have just 800mhz LTE
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Didnt know that thanks for the information! Just using Vodafone (Bildmobil)