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Has anyone tried this?? If I were to buy the phone w/o att will they unlock it no problem?
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they don't want to unlock it even if you pay full price, but they will give up if you insist long enough to one of their customer service representatives
what I did was to pay full price for the phone and get a new number and sim card with a prepaid plan, after spending my $25 from prepaid minutes I called and explained I no longer wanted their service and had paid full price, eventually they agreed to unlock it by giving me a code.. Insert a simcard from another operator and the screen asking for the code will show up.
3g on t-mobile is not working, but everything else does. At least for me. I'm using the Elite RC1 ROM
I think 3g may work if I replace the radio with one that supports 1700/2100 umts, but I don't know if that even exists
i think when the diamond first came out, it didnt support us 3g and they found a radio that allowed us 3g.
so i dont see why you shouldnt be able to get a radio that works with tmobile 3g
kidnamedAlbert said:
i think when the diamond first came out, it didnt support us 3g and they found a radio that allowed us 3g.
so i dont see why you shouldnt be able to get a radio that works with tmobile 3g
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Nobody's been able to add a 3G band to a HTC device just by flashing the radio ROM AFAIK. When the Diamond came out, people were surprised that it didn't support the 850 MHz band like its predecessor, the Cruise, did. There was a later radio that allowed the Diamond to use the 850 MHz band, but only for GSM/EDGE. To do that, the radio in the device had to physically support the 850 MHz band. No subsequent radios, even the one from the US Diamond (which was identical to an already-released radio ROM) were able to make a Euro Diamond use US 3G. The only HTC-made device I know of that uses T-Mobile's AWS 3G band is the T-Mobile G1.
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Nobody's been able to add a 3G band to a HTC device just by flashing the radio ROM AFAIK. When the Diamond came out, people were surprised that it didn't support the 850 MHz band like its predecessor, the Cruise, did. There was a later radio that allowed the Diamond to use the 850 MHz band, but only for GSM/EDGE. To do that, the radio in the device had to physically support the 850 MHz band. No subsequent radios, even the one from the US Diamond (which was identical to an already-released radio ROM) were able to make a Euro Diamond use US 3G. The only HTC-made device I know of that uses T-Mobile's AWS 3G band is the T-Mobile G1.
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i knew i was probably wrong.
thanks for clarifying on this whole thread.
Fuze Working on ATT
So the radio that's in the FUZE won't work on Tmobile - i don't see the bands that the Gphone has. This really makes me wonder if I really want to switch over to ATT. technically I hate ATT.
It's like signing on to have big brother watch over you.
I have the same problem as you do. And I would switch to AT&T if it wasn't for the early termination fee in my t-mobile contract
i think thats what i am gonna do, unlock the fuze and use on t-mobile's EDGE.
i went to an AT&T store the other day and the guy explained the planes to me!!
to get something comparable to what i have with T-mobile i have to pay $130 a month for AT&T
i have the 3000 minutes regional plan $49 with total unlimited internet + access to t-mobile hotspot for $20
i pay 70 dollars
i'd have to get unlimited from at&t for $100 + $30 for internet
sprint's deal is actually isnt bad at all $99 for unlimited everything ( too bad they use CDMA, i go to the middle east once a year )
PS: work and i home i have access to a very high speed Wi-Fi
the radio will work, but you will only get EDGE speeds at best, not 3G. Tmobile's 3G band is AWS 1700 and the Fuze does not support that.
How bad is that? depends on what you do. I use my old Blackjack on Tmobile, and get about 125 kbps speeds. Enough for basic email, google maps and web browsing (when I am not carrying my Fuze)
TC
It does operate on GSM but I don't know if t-mobile's HSDPA network would be compatible. I'm so disappointed that there are no good android phones announced for t-mobile at CES
Actually rumor has it that the LG Optimus 2x will be coming to T-Mobile.
Damonkashu said:
It does operate on GSM but I don't know if t-mobile's HSDPA network would be compatible. I'm so disappointed that there are no good android phones announced for t-mobile at CES
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I'm more interested in the higher resolution screen of the atrix
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I'm more interested in the higher resolution screen of the atrix
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And the monster battery.
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No. I am assuming that Motorola didn't pentaband this phone and you are stuck to using EDGE if you are on T-Mobile.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
I don't know about US but this means it will work on every Australian carrier, toot!
That sucks. I'm on Mobilcity in Canada and I hope to give my G1 to my dad and get a Atrix if it comes to t-mobile.
It sucks that t-mobile always gets lame phones.
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T-Mobile Compromise on great phones
T-Mobile ranks 4th (practically Last Place) in US because they hardly ever get the latest great phones. They always are a step or two below what the top 3 have. Atrix for AT&T but Cliq-2 for T-Mo!!! what a difference. I've been with T-Mo for over 7 years & every time a great phone is announced I want to switch carrier and I finally decided to switch in order to get the Atrix. Hope, Moto learn from Samsung Galaxy & start releasing it to all carriers.
Tmobile was the first GHZ phone in the US, the ever popular HD2 anyone, which is still alive and kicking even today.
Just wait a few months. AT&T acquired tmobile and will be fully integrated by December (rumoured).
Any info on when this might released in canada.
I am on ATT and I feel terrible that another great handset is going to T mobile and F**** att is not interested. Carriers in Canada like rogers and telus have the same band for ATT.
( But again no 4G )
So curious to know if canada is getting one.
Just letting you know that Telus AND Bell use a 4G network (HSPA+)
The DHD actually came out on what was considered a 3G+ network, with DL speeds up to 14 Mb/s, which is really the American 4G standard. With Telus' LTE coming in soon, you can expect DL speeds up to 75 Mb/s... So yeah, canadians don't really lag behind in that aspect!
As for the phone coming out here, Bell and Telus are big fans of HTC, and Bell even launched the Incredible S! So I'd say the chances are pretty good for it to come out here... Only thing is that if it comes to Telus, it might take a few months, as they tend to take their time with phone launches, and Rogers is just a Sony fan...
is Telus received the HTC Deasire HD and the first Desire look to see the Sensation on Telus as well but Telus has issues with taking to long to release phones but dont be suprised to see the phone with bell as well since the Atrix was a hit and miss
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Just letting you know that Telus AND Bell use a 4G network (HSPA+)
The DHD actually came out on what was considered a 3G+ network, with DL speeds up to 14 Mb/s, which is really the American 4G standard. With Telus' LTE coming in soon, you can expect DL speeds up to 75 Mb/s... So yeah, canadians don't really lag behind in that aspect!
As for the phone coming out here, Bell and Telus are big fans of HTC, and Bell even launched the Incredible S! So I'd say the chances are pretty good for it to come out here... Only thing is that if it comes to Telus, it might take a few months, as they tend to take their time with phone launches, and Rogers is just a Sony fan...
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I dint mean to say that US was ahead in terms of 4G. I thought the band for 4G was different between the networks. However its really good to know they are the same. Will be jumping to get hold of sensation when its released in canada.
Now have to find out someone to ship me one
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Just letting you know that Telus AND Bell use a 4G network (HSPA+)
The DHD actually came out on what was considered a 3G+ network, with DL speeds up to 14 Mb/s, which is really the American 4G standard. With Telus' LTE coming in soon, you can expect DL speeds up to 75 Mb/s... So yeah, canadians don't really lag behind in that aspect!
As for the phone coming out here, Bell and Telus are big fans of HTC, and Bell even launched the Incredible S! So I'd say the chances are pretty good for it to come out here... Only thing is that if it comes to Telus, it might take a few months, as they tend to take their time with phone launches, and Rogers is just a Sony fan...
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Rogers uses the same type of HSPA+ network as well.. I really wish they wouldn't call it 4g though.
Having been on both sides , I miss the net speeds in Canada.
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Is this phone going to work properly on rogers?
I've read that on rogers its only going to get 2G speeds...
I've been waiting for rogers to get a good phone for almost a year now, I'm going to leave if they don't get any good phones soon.
Rogers, Bell and Telus use 1900MHz for 3G.
The Sensation uses 1700MHz.
If you want a carrier that's compatible with the Sensation, you need Mobilicity (ME!) or Wind.
I think htc will release one with a compatible band
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Rogers, Bell and Telus use 1900MHz for 3G.
The Sensation uses 1700MHz.
If you want a carrier that's compatible with the Sensation, you need Mobilicity (ME!) or Wind.
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The G2 was released with T-Mobile bands, then later released with support for 1900 as the Desire Z. I'm returning my Nexus S and am going to stick with the Nexus One for the time being - I really hope this model makes it to Telus. There's nothing about it that I'd change other than maybe a bigger battery. Sense is tolerable.
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Rogers, Bell and Telus use 1900MHz for 3G.
The Sensation uses 1700MHz.
If you want a carrier that's compatible with the Sensation, you need Mobilicity (ME!) or Wind.
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Actually,
Rogers, Telus and Bell use 850/1900 for 3G, and many phones with just the 850 UMTS frequency work on these networks (i.e. The Australian HTC HD2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
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Rogers, Bell and Telus use 1900MHz for 3G.
The Sensation uses 1700MHz.
If you want a carrier that's compatible with the Sensation, you need Mobilicity (ME!) or Wind.
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The sensation only uses 1700 in the US for T-Mobile. But who cares about 1700? No one ****ing uses that band. 2100 is what's used worldwide, and that's the sensation the world will get. What we're wondering is when a 850/1900 Sensation will hit.
As an AT&T customer, I'm not even counting on AT&T to get it, nor do I care if they get the phone. I don't want to be thrown on their smartphone data plan anyway. I like importing phones and slapping a SIM in so I can keep going on the $15/plan
Anyway, so if Canada carries the Sensation, that means it will come in 850/1900 flavors.
Even if u have a smartphone u can still use the 15$ plan
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Even if u have a smartphone u can still use the 15$ plan
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If you use a non carrier smartphone you can get away with it. AT&T's not gonna make a huge list of all the smartphones in the world and blacklist them from the $15 plan.
They did it for the N1 but taht's because it was sold in the US targetted @ AT&T customers with the 850/1900 bands.
They can only really control the phones they sell to make sure that if you want data with their phones, if it's a smartphone you will be on the $30 plan. Suck it ATT.
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if it's a smartphone you will be on the $30 plan. Suck it ATT.
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This is no longer valid.
Att has changed the rules now. Even if u have a smartphone u can have the 15$ plan.
My wife has iphone and she is on 15$ plan
drgopoos said:
This is no longer valid.
Att has changed the rules now. Even if u have a smartphone u can have the 15$ plan.
My wife has iphone and she is on 15$ plan
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Well AT&T is rather nice to you. Up here in Canada, Rogers (AT&T's counterpart in Canada) forces you into a minimum $45 Data Plan if you upgrade from a normal phone to a smartphone. Negotiations never seem to work unless you're extremely lucky, or know someone in the business.
On the topic of the Sensation coming to Canada, I have my doubts on Rogers getting it. They haven't supported many HTC devices in the past, and I doubt they will now. Rogers always carries Samsung and LG, with the occasional Sony Ericsson device.
I'd be willing to put money on Telus and/or Bell getting the Sensation, while Rogers probably taking the Galaxy S II.
If the phone comes out on telus or bell ill still be happy, since telus/bell/rogers all use the same 3G bands now.
Actually in Canada, for BlackBerry you need a minimum of $40 V&D, but for any other smartphone, it's $50... That said, I hear in the US V&D plans can go as high as $100 (here too, but they're the exception, not the norm). Unfortunately though, around these parts most plans don't come with more than 1GB of data.
One of the benefits of our plans though, is that download speeds destroy US speeds. LTE here is 125 Mb/s vs the 14 Mb/s you guys get. For us 14 Mb/s is considered regular HSPA+ (3G+).
As a Bestbuy mobile rep though, I get a fair plan for myself ($35 all incl) for my V&D plan that gives me all the add-ons i need (unlimited txt, Caller ID, VM, early nights) + 200 min and 1 GB data. Pretty good if you ask me
As a Telus customer though, and back on topic, whichever new phone to come out first to Bell or Telus (Sensation or S2), will be the one I buy. I'm hoping both will launch this summer, but I don't really feel like leaving Telus unless I have to...
I am hoping that the sensation gets a GSM release. Being it supports the MAP bluetooth profile, i would like to get a Android phone for my Focus to work with the My ford touch system. There are no android phones in canada that i know of that work with that profile.
When is the glaxy s2 supposed to be released in canada?
ive been with every big phone supplier 4 at least afew weeks and htc is the only 1 im interested in. the galaxy s could be a great phone but they dont give you enough great features. if samsung had its own "friendstream" style social widget, it woyuld compete. but after flahsing sense 3.0 on my desire hd, ill never go back to plain android. every company's UI look sboring in comparision to sense 3.0. only flaw with htc right now is psx4droid doesnt work on the updated sense ui. oncenthat is fixed, this is easily the best brand phone
Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
Also, is there such a thing as a carrier locked Nexus S? I want to buy the Koodo Mobile Nexus S for $425 off contract (cheapest I can find), but I want to use it on the Mobilicity network. Will I need to carrier unlock the device somehow? I can't seem to find any "unlock Nexus S" sources, so I assume this is unnecessary?
The more I look into this issue, the more confused I get. A lot of places say the Nexus S is quad-band GSM + AWS, so doesn't that mean I should be able to get 3G from anywhere? The FAQ on this forum states that the original Nexus S can only get 3G speeds on TMobile's AWS band--conversely, does that then mean that the new "AT&T" Nexus S phones can't get 3G speeds on AWS? i.e. Do I need to buy a phone from an AWS carrier to get 3G?
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Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
Also, is there such a thing as a carrier locked Nexus S? I want to buy the Koodo Mobile Nexus S for $425 off contract (cheapest I can find), but I want to use it on the Mobilicity network. Will I need to carrier unlock the device somehow? I can't seem to find any "unlock Nexus S" sources, so I assume this is unnecessary?
The more I look into this issue, the more confused I get. A lot of places say the Nexus S is quad-band GSM + AWS, so doesn't that mean I should be able to get 3G from anywhere? The FAQ on this forum states that the original Nexus S can only get 3G speeds on TMobile's AWS band--conversely, does that then mean that the new "AT&T" Nexus S phones can't get 3G speeds on AWS? i.e. Do I need to buy a phone from an AWS carrier to get 3G?
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I am in canada, just bought NS finally, that too from Koodo, and it is an Unlocked Rogers/AT&T/Bell/Telus/Fido compatible version. Not to mention it will work with any other bands in the world except the situation Wind/Mobilicity have.
Their phone system is not backwards compatible, they came out in the market just about 2 years ago, they started off with 3G/3.5G straight where Rogers initially started with Standard, moved on to Edge/2G/2.5G and upgraded themselves to 3G and eventually 3.5G, same goes for Telus/Bell/Fido.
If you purchase any of Wind/Mobilicity phone, they will be compatible with any other careers in the world, but you will not get 3G if tried on UMTS. Their phones will only work on the AWS 3G frequency. Which in case means if you bought wind/mobilicity compatible phone, you will get 2G/Edge on Rogers.
Other way around - Koodo phone with Wind/Mobilicity SIM - will give you Wind/Mobilicity Away network only, means it is useless for you. The only phone in canadian market works with Rogers and Wind 3G frequency is Nokia N8 which is a Pentaband phone. Nexus S on the other hand is a Quadband phone, and is made specifically for the career, thats why we have 3/4 different versions, AWS, UMTS, 4G to work with Sprint in US and i guess there is one other model for India and China as well.
All the Nexus S variants come unlocked, outright or on contract, as its a Google's own baby and they don't lock it except the bootloader.
I bought mine with Koodo from Future Shop as it is listed as not an outright sale on Koodo's website, but FS and BBY do sell them outright. It is unlocked out of the box, just pop your SIM in and you are good to go assuming you are going to go with Rogers/Bell/Telus/Koodo/Fido.
My two cents, go with Wind, they offer you wind tab, pay 350 + tax and use the phone to pay the rest of the money with wind tab and you are set if you really want Wind compatible phone.
I had the same problem and dilemma like you as I had a Desire Z with Bell and wanted to use it on Wind, ended up trading it with G2 from T-Mobile and used Wind mobile 3G network and Rogers 2G/Edge network up until now(I am with Rogers and have got a better deal with them for data, so no need to carry two phones on me anymore )
Hope this helps.
CreativeDevil
Blindsight51 said:
Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
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it will not work
you need i9020T not A
AWS only comes on the i9020T
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I am in canada, just bought NS finally, that too from Koodo, and it is ...
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Hope this helps.
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Thanks so much. That explains it very clearly. I guess I'll need to shell out a bit extra and get a phone from Wind or Mobilicity.
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Go for it bud... u wont regret...
Creativedevil
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I guess some people might already know this, but I want to mention it anyway in case .... someone wants to save money by switching T-Mobile.
I am in Miami area. I bought a Captivate for my brother a while back and unlocked it. He visited today so I tried on my T-Mobile Sim card and it works with AT&T HSPA with no problem. The device is running SlimBean 2.9 with no baseband changes. No data roaming enabled.
I guess this is due to the 1900mhz band that T-Mobile leased from AT&T after the failed buy out. I don't know specifically what other area 1900mhz are available. I remembered earlier this year I had an international Galaxy S3 and it only got EDGE on T-Mobile, so this has been a recent development.
It appears to be in limited areas: http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-improving-coverage-lighting-1900mhz-10-metro-areas
They are re-farming their 1900Mhz spectrum to make it HSPA+. Right now it's just a few metros, but it is expanding and will continue to roll out for a while. Any AT&T smartphone that otherwise lacks T-Mobile's previous flavor of radios can take advantage of it, but T-Mobile is mostly aiming this at iPhone users who want to jump from AT&T and Verizon (the Verizon iPhone 5 is GSM unlocked).
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just tested my unlocked cappy on t-mobile in seattle...
and got the fastest network speeds i've seen on this phone: 6.02 Mbps down / 3.43 Mbps up. This is on t-mobile's 1900 band refarmed to the HSPA network. I understand that the cappy will max out around 8 Mbps down/up, but I've never seen anything close to this on ATT's network.
I'll be moving over to the $30 t-mobile plan with 5 gb data next week when my contract expires. Ahhhh freedom.