Database Info

New\Old Rom\Fixes Tracking?

I am extending this post just because it took a long time to sticky 1 more month.....
I would like to ask the community if they would want 1 sticky thread with the following info. Only the rom author would post in this forum not questions the rom author can link to a thread regarding this. Or should we just WIKI this?
Current and past rom builds
Fixes for Rom past and present
Links to How to threads such as WM6 VIOP
EX These should be the authors post. And no one other than the author should post
CrossBow Reloaded by MFRAZZZ
1.71(Beta) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310101&highlight=reloaded
1.7 (Stable) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309531&highlight=reloaded
1.5 (Stable) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306820&highlight=reloaded
Voip Setup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950
I think you get the hint.....

Comments
Please post your comments if you have any

Good iniciative
Thanks, the result can´t be other than a better organized forum

More input
Hey we need at least 100 votes to make a difference.
HMM looking at the wiki this does seem good. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=wizard_WM_6

Moderator
I am going to ask a moderator to sticky this

I agree with luiggi. Since the kitchens were out there are so many ROMS out there. So we shall organize this forum better.

The point of a forum is discussion....
I think if only one person is editing, a Wiki makes more sense. After the discussion happens in the forum, the filtered content (fixes, etc.) could go to the Wiki instead of the first post. Having all the discussion as part-in-parcel to the original post is getting pretty clunky.
The trouble would come in a cluttered Wiki, no?

There should be a wiki where all cooks put a link to thier roms, so that we end up with one "master list" of all the roms available. So that we dont have to go searching thru the forum to find different roms.

you can create many subforums which will be messy at first but if you want a quick simple fix create a [ Files Only section (no discussions) ] this fixed other websites from getting messy.
example site
http://www.rom10x.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=255

charly_mx said:
I agree with luiggi. Since the kitchens were out there are so many ROMS out there. So we shall organize this forum better.
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I'm sorry to bother you, but where did you get the official WM6 Release for the 8125.

pdhahnsr said:
I'm sorry to bother you, but where did you get the official WM6 Release for the 8125.
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His build is not really the official release for 8125. There is no such beast. The closest is the on that was uploaded by Ingentics (however you spell it)
According to him, it came directly from microsoft. Or if you want one with good fixes and is stable and built off that base rom, grab jaguar. <see signature>
Its very lite

nottoosmart said:
His build is not really the official release for 8125. There is no such beast. The closest is the on that was uploaded by Ingentics (however you spell it)
According to him, it came directly from microsoft. Or if you want one with good fixes and is stable and built off that base rom, grab jaguar. <see signature>
Its very lite
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Thanks nottoosmart. I'm gonna download and install and see how it runs.
I'll update later.

ROM Originator/Author's Original/Changes always on TOP
Why not have/keep/Sticky the ROM Originator/Author's Original posting on top and then allow that person to edit that posting as needed. This way we could always look at the ROM Originator/Author posting to see what is the latest version/changes.
All other postings could be as currently done. I find it very time consuming that one has to go though x00 postings to find if any updates have been made to the original version.

Honestly, this forum has been a mess for a while.. I have been trolling around here for ages, and sometimes it is really difficult to find anything in the 100 page threads.
My suggestion, although time consuming will probably help.
Create 2 threads for each major rom/kitchen release (not the minor "everyone can cook there own roms" rom). 1 is stickied, 1 is not. The sticky is only accessible by the author of said rom, and no one but mods or himself/herself can post to it, the other is for basic discussion about said rom/kitchen
Additionally the mods may want to go through and clear out older threads completely, and cull the threads with far too many pages for any usefull information (or maybe permit the author the rom the thread is about to cull that thread).

What version of Duttys 6.1 is best?

Build 19199 or Build 5.2.19716 updated FEB 20.2008 seems to be the newer one?

i personally prefer 19716 build but you can try both and figure it out. there was no need to open a whole new thread just 4 this question.

It's a perfectly valid question dude.
Like most people I am frustrated by people asking the same questions again and again, but I am concerned that this forum is in danger of heading down a bad road by bashing noobs at every opportunity.

Rabangus said:
It's a perfectly valid question dude.
Like most people I am frustrated by people asking the same questions again and again, but I am concerned that this forum is in danger of heading down a bad road by bashing noobs at every opportunity.
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Yes it's a perfectly valid question to ask in Dutty's thread about his ROM not creating a whole new thread about it.

totally agree.
You could argue this is like asking a parent which one of their kids they like the most!
Best thing is to try both and see which you prefer. There will be advocates for both.
ps don't try that with your kids. it will end you up in jail.

I use each rom on my 2 tilts. I feel that 197 is more stable. 191 sometimes freeze if you push some buttons whil they are booting up. doesn't happen to 197.

No disrespect to anyone here on the board, but Dutty's thread is quickly becoming useless to me. I'm not going to weed through 330+ pages of replies to try to follow a conversation or find a piece of information in there. That thread is quickly becoming it's own universe.
I'm glad this thread was started - It's good information for me that I wouldn't have otherwise found.
Regards,
Jeff

trick420 said:
No disrespect to anyone here on the board, but Dutty's thread is quickly becoming useless to me. I'm not going to weed through 330+ pages of replies to try to follow a conversation or find a piece of information in there. That thread is quickly becoming it's own universe.
I'm glad this thread was started - It's good information for me that I wouldn't have otherwise found.
Regards,
Jeff
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Here's the point....I garuntee if you post in there with a question it will be answered...there's no point in making a new thread....that's all I'm saying.

alltheway said:
Here's the point....I garuntee if you post in there with a question it will be answered...there's no point in making a new thread....that's all I'm saying.
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Posted a question ... no answer.
That thread is bull....
It took me 5 minutes to even find my posting.
The thread might make sense if someone was moderating it ... meaning putting questions into the first post with links to answers. But this? Bull!

coolVariable said:
Posted a question ... no answer.
That thread is bull....
It took me 5 minutes to even find my posting.
The thread might make sense if someone was moderating it ... meaning putting questions into the first post with links to answers. But this? Bull!
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Yeah, all threads suffer from this, and I'm also totally agreeing with you, I'm also in the same situation, cannot read hundreds of posts and pages of every ROM thread to find out if it's a suitable one to upgrade to. Trying out so many ROMs until satisfied is not an option for me (ok, I'd admit trying a few, but not every version of every flavour of wm6.1), I want to find one to get rid of my german wm6.0 and have iGo still working, and no issues more than with 6.0.
An updated FAQ in the beginning posts of the respective threads would be useful, but even better, real wiki articles (not just links back to forum threads). Don't want to upset people who discovered the Internet just when these forums where already around, but on mailing lists information and discussions where easier to follow and filter...
Just my 0.2€...

Back to the question: which is the best?
Let me tell you: the new 19716 RTM out to come soon will be the best and fastest ever!!!

Old Stickies

Post any comments\questions\suggestions below...

What about a sticky thread for all ROMs?

I think it should remain active, but grouped in a single post under the name olds sticky, so this is easier to locate.
Greetings.

Yes, if an [OLD] tag would be added the stickies would be cleaner.
But the best sollution would be for everyone to make fresh ROMs!

KALI2000 said:
I think it should remain active, but grouped in a single post under the name olds sticky, so this is easier to locate.
Greetings.
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agree 100%

I voted "Yes", but I'd like to see a rollup sticky for at least a few months after the last update...

KALI2000 said:
I think it should remain active, but grouped in a single post under the name olds sticky, so this is easier to locate.
Greetings.
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One more for this option

i'm sorry for my ignorance but what is exactly a stiky?

We've got too many stickies at the moment and it's hard to keep track of all the different build numbers, so I think we should have a single sticky post which links to the following wiki page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Cooked_ROMs

kalimah said:
i'm sorry for my ignorance but what is exactly a stiky?
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Stickies are those threads that stay at the top of the first page of threads, even if no one posts in them for a while. You will notice they have "Sticky" to the left of their name.
no1 said:
We've got too many stickies at the moment and it's hard to keep track of all the different build numbers, so I think we should have a single sticky post which links to the following wiki page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Cooked_ROMs
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The problem with that Wiki page is that the ROM developers don't update\maintain it
I'll probably have a go at updating it after my exams are over.

I have all the respect for Jwrightmcps's ROMS ..thats how I started with Universal Cooked ROMs..however honestly..it would be nice if the cooker let an update if he was working on something or not....
Based on that...if the cooker leaves no update on what he's doing next I think the ROM sticky needs to go...in fact I agree with the [OLD] thread subject update. Its a good idea however better than that would be to open a seperate small subsection (subforum) for each device called Archived ROMs...anything thats over a 6 month timeframe is considered old with the latest technology updates and the fact that new rom's are shooting out (for other devices and brought over here) at the speed of light. We have seen more than 10 devices launched in the span of a year, which is amazing considering a few years ago ...it was quite the opposite...
I personally feel old rom's need to be archived (let people search them out, thats what SEARCH is for, or a subsection forum). It helps in another way. How many times do we see threads asking for "What's the best ROM to use" ... if a ROM is almost bugfree (or has no issues or bug reports since the last 6 months), they stay sticky (even if theres no development for a future rom) - this ensures that its close to stable and is worth STICKY even though its not the "latest thing" (its stable or close to stable).
Removing old rom's isnt the best idea, since it leaves us missing the past history of what the developers did and how far we all got. History should remain an integral part of the forum, however history needs no sticky. The Fast, Furious and the Stablest needs recognition. Obviously the old is gold - saying remains but not for a sticky. The idea of sticky is - GO HERE, IT's Important..historically yes, the old roms are milestones, however you have a search system for that...
Further the fact that you have Wikis for a few developers now, lets them post an update and a link to the past thread - the perfect History book (updated to today). I think that's how we should go further...The latest , stablest roms are setup as sticky OR optionally each developer has his own sticky thread - first post links to HIS/HER WIKI...for tons of information and links to old threads/roms....
I think thats the best way to go..however these are my thoughts based on what I would prefer .... suggestions will vary...but I think I make sense (at least to myself)

TehPenguin said:
The problem with that Wiki page is that the ROM developers don't update\maintain it
I'll probably have a go at updating it after my exams are over.
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Exactly my point...if developers dont update it..they arent very interested or sure about it (or they dont have time). I feel wiki is the way to go. Developers should feel the time (or have a few fans) to fill in the details. Dutty updates his wiki (well he's on vacation so cant blame him on missing the latest if he did)...
I think Wiki makes a lot of sense and you have to start to use it. If we say people dont have the time to use or update wiki...maybe we should drop the wiki...(which wont happen)...the point is...Wiki is definitely a good thing to look at and develop on.

Hi all,
I have made a new thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398647
please can all devs add links to their roms in this thread, please nobody else post anything on this thread to keep it clean. I have requested that the mods remove any posts from this thread that do not contain rom links from Devs.
I have also requested that our old rom thread be released from sticky as I have added links to most of our (Beasty & Laurentius26) Roms in this main thread.
Good point D.
Cheers,
Beasty

beast0898 said:
Hi all,
I have made a new thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398647
please can all devs add links to their roms in this thread, please nobody else post anything on this thread to keep it clean. I have requested that the mods remove any posts from this thread that do not contain rom links from Devs.
I have also requested that our old rom thread be released from sticky as I have added links to most of our (Beasty & Laurentius26) Roms in this main thread.
Good point D.
Cheers,
Beasty
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I've stickied your thread, though I would much rather people use the wiki page...

TehPenguin said:
I've stickied your thread, though I would much rather people use the wiki page...
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Thanks mate,
I'll try and get round to doing the Wiki too, some time soon.
Getting a bit more free time now, time to get "the house in order" before moving on to the Pro.
I agree the Wiki should be done, I also believe a sticky thread for all WM6/WM6.1 Roms is very usefull in this forum though.
When did you become a mod sir?
Cheers,
Beasty

beast0898 said:
Thanks mate,
I'll try and get round to doing the Wiki too, some time soon.
Getting a bit more free time now, time to get "the house in order" before moving on to the Pro.
I agree the Wiki should be done, I also believe a sticky thread for all WM6/WM6.1 Roms is very usefull in this forum though.
When did you become a mod sir?
Cheers,
Beasty
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I became a mod about a week ago - thanks (I think) to our good friend Midget_1990
For the stickies, I think we'll have it that the latest ROMs get stickied and have the wiki\rolled up sticky for all ROMs, current or previous

Congrets
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I became a mod about a week ago - thanks (I think) to our good friend Midget_1990
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Congrets, my friend!!
You achieved it but no PARTY...!!!
cheers

I think some old Roms need to be sticky, e.g BL's 2.08.01. That came out long ago, it was stable and perfect and he didn't contributed anything as non-beta since that. Removing the track of such is unfair to the Devs I believe.

oqaab said:
I think some old Roms need to be sticky, e.g BL's 2.08.01. That came out long ago, it was stable and perfect and he didn't contributed anything as non-beta since that. Removing the track of such is unfair to the Devs I believe.
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I have a sticky with a link to all my roms, and hope that other devs will add to that thread a post with all their rom versions and links.
I still prefer my old 2.07.05 FF, I think that was the best I have released, but everyone has their own preferences.
Maybe I will release one more Rom before moving on to Touch Pro, time will tell.
Cheers,
Beasty

Hmmm, I see some contradictions already as to the purpose of this thread.
In my opinion I think it should be settled first what thread deserves as sticky. I would say first & foremost to go in is the Wiki, saves us & newbies from doing search for Universal essentials... unlocking, flashing, bootloader upgrade, page pool setup, etc., etc. etc.
A link to all the published ROM's probably organized by owner or by version (WM5, WM6, WM6.1, etc.) can be part of the wiki as well. Another working model is what our new mod & this thread owner TehPenguin is doing: A ROM repository. Point a link to it inside the Wiki and we can have a 'cleaner' forum threads.
Was wondering also why not all 'new' ROM's get stickied irregardless if its not the builder who posted it, any criteria in this matter?
My thoughts shared.

Open touch 7.x ring issue

Sorry for starting a new thread. ttran has put lot of work in 7.x roms and they are the best rom till date. Excellent response time and out of the world UI and features. However it has a serious issue which is present is almost every 7.x rom.
If there a call coming from blocked number and your backlight is off (as most of time it will be) the phone doesn't ring/vibrate. Just the backlight turns on it shows the number on screen. But it doesn't ring/vibrate.
This is the issue with virgin 7.x rom installed. No additional software installed or no additional settings done. I have flashed 7.3, 7.4.1, 7.6 (with phonecanvas and without phonecanvas) roms and have issue in all of these roms. Now I flashed back to 6.5 and it is working as expected.
It is very easy to reproduce. With any 7.x rom
1) switch off the backlight if it is not already off by pressing the button on top of phone
2) call your phone from another phone with caller id blocked. (If in US, you can put *67 in front of number you are dialing. e.g. instead of dialing 12345671234 dial *6712345671234)
You will see that screen turns on and shows a private call, but it doesn't ring.
Without this working I miss several important calls.
If anyone has a solution or need more info please reply to this thread.
EDIT: Good news.. This isssue is no longer present in OTP 7.7.. I just flashed to 7.7 biggy and it doesn't have that issue. Thanks TTRAN !!

I'm using OTP 7.3 STD and this happens. But honestly I think of it more as a
special feature - since I'm the kind of guy who doesn't want to be bothered by
anyone who is blocking or has a blocked ID. Callers can still leave voice mail and
that comes with an audible and visual alert - and if I like 'em, I can call 'em back.

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I'm using OTP 7.3 STD and this happens. But honestly I think of it more as a
special feature - since I'm the kind of guy who doesn't want to be bothered by
anyone who is blocking or has a blocked ID. Callers can still leave voice mail and
that comes with an audible and visual alert - and if I like 'em, I can call 'em back.
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I third this problem,
DrStinkbomb, i have exactly the same thoughts about not answering those who want to be private, but it has its down aswell.
Just day before yesterday i was waiting for a call from NYC Police because they have fix my car for damaging it while trying to catch a suspect. They did call me back, but from a private number, lucky for me i had my phone on my desk beside my computer and saw the light coming up. Thats when i relialzed that i almost missed a very important call.
So yes it is important to get it fixed.

yea i dont answer if they block their number anyway... they can just leave a message if i dont know who it is... so this is actually a good feature

Unfortunately, with the doctors and lawyers (not to mention the couple generally paranoid quacks) in the family I foresee this being a potential issue for me. I haven't noticed it yet, but the holiday's aren't yet in everyone's mind...

Though some users like not answering calls from blocked number, however as tatail mentioned, sometimes it is very important to take calls.
Several times banks, hospital, doctor etc. call from a blocked number and you really don't want to miss those calls.
I have to revert back to 6.5 rom just because of this issue.
I hope someone knowledgeable can come up with solution.

hoolahoous said:
Sorry for starting a new thread.
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No you're not. In fact, you're rather unapologetic about it, considering you had thought about it before doing it, and decided to do it anyway.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
k.thx.bai

dumpydooby said:
No you're not. In fact, you're rather unapologetic about it, considering you had thought about it before doing it, and decided to do it anyway.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
k.thx.bai
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chill dude.. I am not complaining. I am pointing out a issue. finding out bugs is part of development process so cook can put it in next rom or people can find solution together. If you read my posts, you will see that I have been a big fan of ttran's rom. I have posted solution myself for a bluetooth issue I found in one of the earlier roms. As you would have noticed I have tried to do my part by doing debugging (flashing different roms, about 12 to 13 times with different options and finally isolating the issue)
We are in this together to make it better.

hoolahoous said:
chill dude.. I am not complaining. I am pointing out a issue. finding out bugs is part of development process so cook can put it in next rom or people can find solution together. If you read my posts, you will see that I have been a big fan of ttran's rom. I have posted solution myself for a bluetooth issue I found in one of the earlier roms. As you would have noticed I have tried to do my part by doing debugging (flashing different roms, about 12 to 13 times with different options and finally isolating the issue)
We are in this together to make it better.
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Really. With all the irrelevant posts that get stuck inside the OTP thread, you create a new one for this? Please explain to me why this would not have been better posted on the 7.x thread itself.
And no, 'I'm Special,' is not an acceptable answer.

coburn_c said:
Really. With all the irrelevant posts that get stuck inside the OTP thread, you create a new one for this? Please explain to me why this would not have been better posted on the 7.x thread itself.
And no, 'I'm Special,' is not an acceptable answer.
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Easy guys, no need for all the hostility. Maybe the post would have been better suited in the OTP 7x posts, but is it really that big of a deal? Either way, he is just trying to help.

dougstoner said:
Easy guys, no need for all the hostility. Maybe the post would have been better suited in the OTP 7x posts, but is it really that big of a deal? Either way, he is just trying to help.
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No, he is not trying to help, he is trying to be helped, and if you're looking for some assistance with an issue you can at least follow forum etiquette rules as dumpydooby pointed out. The development forum is not for help, its for developing new roms, he can either post in the rom thread if he wants to help the cook debug the rom, or he can post in a forum for assistance. I think a mod should remove this thread.

coburn_c said:
No, he is not trying to help, he is trying to be helped, and if you're looking for some assistance with an issue you can at least follow forum etiquette rules as dumpydooby pointed out. The development forum is not for help, its for developing new roms, he can either post in the rom thread if he wants to help the cook debug the rom, or he can post in a forum for assistance. I think a mod should remove this thread.
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No, I don't need any assistance, I don't have this issue. I think he saw there were a bunch of people that were having the same issue, so I guess that's why he posted it here. I agree, the post would be better served in the OT7 post, but I do think he was just trying to help.

rofl - what I find funnier than the new thread are the 'holier than thou' posts that keep bumping the thread to the top....
hahaha....
you guys are funny. And now I've bumped this thread.... awesome...

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rofl - what I find funnier than the new thread are the 'holier than thou' posts that keep bumping the thread to the top....
hahaha....
you guys are funny. And now I've bumped this thread.... awesome...
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LOL! bumped again.

coburn_c said:
Really. With all the irrelevant posts that get stuck inside the OTP thread, you create a new one for this? Please explain to me why this would not have been better posted on the 7.x thread itself.
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i think you answered your question yourself. the OTP thread is so massive with 'irrelevant' posts that the big issues get buried. And if you had taken time to read the actual OTP thread, I had posted it in that thread (don't tell me you never read the OTP thread).
In fact ttran himself had offered to fix this issue ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2756237&highlight=vibrate#post2756237 ) . But I think because of ton's of posts after that it got buried. I did not want to bug ttran with PM's. He already has tons of things to do.
I am just hoping to find a solution collectively.
If you had not started whining about this thread, maybe we would be closer to fix which can be given to ttran so he can add it to his next rom.

coburn_c said:
No, he is not trying to help, he is trying to be helped, and if you're looking for some assistance with an issue you can at least follow forum etiquette rules as dumpydooby pointed out. The development forum is not for help, its for developing new roms, he can either post in the rom thread if he wants to help the cook debug the rom, or he can post in a forum for assistance. I think a mod should remove this thread.
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What's wrong with pointing out a potentially serious issue and offering to help ?
Here are the rules from forum (in case you forgot to read them)
- ROM discussion
- ROM release
- ROM issus due to the release thread
I never said I need it fixed now. I have already flashed back to 6.5.
I am offering to help anyone and provide any required info who knows more about roms than me.

hoolahoous said:
i think you answered your question yourself. the OTP thread is so massive with 'irrelevant' posts that the big issues get buried. And if you had taken time to read the actual OTP thread, I had posted it in that thread (don't tell me you never read the OTP thread).
In fact ttran himself had offered to fix this issue ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2756237&highlight=vibrate#post2756237 ) . But I think because of ton's of posts after that it got buried. I did not want to bug ttran with PM's. He already has tons of things to do.
I am just hoping to find a solution collectively.
If you had not started whining about this thread, maybe we would be closer to fix which can be given to ttran so he can add it to his next rom.
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the current post is what, 12 pages? and if you cant be bothered to read the thread, and find out if the answer is already there... or even re-post there and wait for ttran to see it...
i came to this site and read everything i could find, i never once asked a question so that i could be spoon fed answers, i searched and found all the info i needed, and i certainly never created repetitive, self-serving posts in development forums
but you're right, i'm whining, when i should have just ignored the question and questioner, duly noted.
edit: also just for kicks, my phone rings just fine when the caller ID is blocked otp 7.6

coburn_c said:
the current post is what, 12 pages? and if you cant be bothered to read the thread, and find out if the answer is already there... or even re-post there and wait for ttran to see it...
i came to this site and read everything i could find, i never once asked a question so that i could be spoon fed answers, i searched and found all the info i needed, and i certainly never created repetitive, self-serving posts in development forums
but you're right, i'm whining, when i should have just ignored the question and questioner, duly noted.
edit: also just for kicks, my phone rings just fine when the caller ID is blocked otp 7.6
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Way ahead of you. My eyesight must be weaker than you since even after reading all the posts, I could not find the solution. I had reposted it couple of times in original thread. Also if you had read the thread carefully, you will find that several other people have exactly same issue. Though none of them could reproduce it. I was able to isolate and reproduce it after spending lot of time. What have you done to contribute to development of the ROM's (except trolling in forums)
If you can find solution to all your problems by searching, good for you.
This is a public forum (meant for discussing issues), and there are owners/moderators defining the rules. As per rules they permit posting the issues. You seem to be hell bent on policing the forum, and enforcing your own views (I see you just joined this forum a month back).
I had repeatedly said that this is not a "please-fix-it-for-me-i-must-have-it" thread (though it would be good to have this fixed ) since I have already switched to previous version which doesn't have this issue. In addition I am offering to help others isolate/debug the problem.
Just for kicks, why don't you try to switch off the backlight of your phone and try calling from blocked number ?

You know.... Tran did make a thread for rom issues... dont forget that, and i quote
"Please post your issues here since the original thread is getting way too big.
Also, please post your fixes for possible minor issues, this will help new users until I update the rom.
Do not post any thing else in this thread besides issue related stuff."
WOW, he even says please in his thread... what a little reading will do...

And so, the moral to this story is...
I'm not sure. All I'm getting from all
this is 'I am holier than thou'....
'nuff said. It's not funny anymore.

Popular ROM Threads

PDACornerUltimate
By: abusalza
Phoenix
By: parleyp
HyperDragon
By: sakajati
AthineOS
By: b16b
eOS
By: -888-
RevROM
By: kareem9nba
-G- ROM's
By: -G-
SeaDragon
By: ansar.ath.gr

If I've missed any please let me know. These are NOT the only ROM's nor are they the "best" ROM's for the Kaiser just a list of the ROM's that seam to be the most popular.

Why did you post this?

Does it's based on number of post or viewers who's came to related ROM threads? Why don't we just do polling or something? But i guess member here rarely used only one ROM, it's keep changing

is this really necessary?

Travito said:
is this really necessary?
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i feel it is just like adding a new thread with no benefits n discussions...
I think it is an against rule.. so MOD to take the call on this!

siddesh_0110 said:
i feel it is just like adding a new thread with no benefits n discussions...
I think it is an against rule.. so MOD to take the call on this!
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Why did you post this?
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is this really necessary?
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What is the big deal? ......What , is he taking much needed space away from all the new 6.5 roms coming out ? Look around, things are kind of slow around here with links being taken down, chefs canceling their new 6.5 releases
This is not a "what is best thread," it merely consolidates all the chefs in one area,.........If it is tagged right, now all a noob has to do is come to rom development, type " popular roms " into search and he will come right to this page, to link and compare. No harm, could be helpful.
Don't forget ansar's roms, get the link in my signature.

Make this sticky!
Maybe add older but good ROMS like dutty's, Laurentis, etc!

I didn't expect to be flamed for making a post that would help me. If it helps me then I'm sure it would help others here on the forums.
I'm not claiming these are the best ROM's, What I did was sort the forum by number of posts and then started listing, I skipped over the threads that was old but apparently some of those ROM's are still used so I'll include those too.

Fingerlickin said:
I didn't expect to be flamed for making a post that would help me. If it helps me then I'm sure it would help others here on the forums.
I'm not claiming these are the best ROM's, What I did was sort the forum by number of posts and then started listing, I skipped over the threads that was old but apparently some of those ROM's are still used so I'll include those too.
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your not really being flamed its just that this is rom development forum and your thread has nothing to do with that,or with even aiding in rom dev. maybe you should put this in the kaiser-general forum?

The only problem is I don't think noobs are going to use the search function in the general forum to find a popular rom list. They are going to come here, to rom dev. Yes they could just go up and down the forum threads looking at post totals for different roms, but we all know clueles noobs.
I would love for them to be able to input "popular roms " into the search function and have them be directed to a list. Or as we get the inevitalbe " what is the best rom " question, which gets asked here, more than in the Kaiser general forum " here is the list of popular roms ", " follow the links and test and compare for yourself "
Could be helpful.

Once upon a time, XDA made this thing, it was grand, it's called THE WIKI.
Where there is already an extensive ROM list.
Instead of making a new thread, update the WIKI.

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Once upon a time, XDA made this thing, it was grand, it's called THE WIKI.
Where there is already an extensive ROM list.
Instead of making a new thread, update the WIKI.
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agreed it is far more extensive

Travito said:
Once upon a time, XDA made this thing, it was grand, it's called THE WIKI.
Where there is already an extensive ROM list.
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And that is why the thread is not called " every rom ever written for the Kaiser " because that is in the wiki. Lets face it when the noobs come to this Kaiser forum, they are looking for the latest and the greatest, the stuff all the other kids are using.
They are not looking or willing to to filter through yesterdays news just to get the newest stuff. Don't get me wrong, Leo, Dutty, NATF, and all are legends and always will be, but they have moved on. In some cases the chefs are not even supporting their old threads that are still listed in the wiki.
We hear enough complaints as it is about all the old info a noob has to go through to get the " new stuff ".
This is kind of a thanks and props to the guys that have stayed behind and still support us, and a thanks to the ( Josh, KaiserII101, ngy ) new chefs stepping up, by moving them to the top of the " every rom available for the Kaiser" list .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492757
Go here follow the links to the latest and the greatest and decide for yourself. Easy Answer ?
Not meaning to be a jerk with so many posts, I'm just sayin............

I've got to admit that this thread helped me find a good naked ROM, namely AthineOS. I probably would have found it in the end but who knows how long that would have taken?

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Lets face it when the noobs come to this Kaiser forum, they are looking for the latest and the greatest, the stuff all the other kids are using.
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and that stuff 9 times out of 10 is on the 1st or 2nd page of the kaiser forum, hence threads like these AREN'T needed.
edit: not to mention that this is the "Kaiser Rom Development forum" not a come and get it/heres your menu forum, these "kids" need to be searching/learning before they EVER think about flashing a rom. or all you get is theses spoon fed "kids" not reading/searching, bricking their phones more than they do now!!!

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I've been lurking XDA for quite some time, have read countless threads, and flashed numerous ROMs. I'm no chef/expert, but I'm not a n00b either. My visits to XDA are far from regular and usually involve either obtaining a new ROM or checking on the status of Android on the Kaiser. I greatly appreciate the work of everyone who cooks ROMs, administrates the forum/wiki, or just generally puts in time to help the community, and try to stay out of the way unless I have a good question or something useful to add. I use the search function and the wiki religiously. In short, I'm probably a good example of the typical XDA visitor. Here's my opinion:
@Fingerlickin: Thank you. The effort is appreciated, but I don't imagine you'll want to come back and update this every few months. If you make a new wiki page or add the popularity info to the existing ROM list, other people can update it in future. Then, you could just edit your post and make it a link to the wiki (or have the mods add the link to the FAQ) so that it comes up in forum searches.
@Travito & msd24200: You say that a more extensive list can be found elsewhere and that a post like this doesn't belong in the ROM development forum. With all due respect, I think you are missing the point. Fingerlickin didn't post a list of all ROMS, he posted something of a Top 8 list. It wasn't intended to be comprehensive.
Could he have updated the wiki instead of making a new post? Sure, but (at the time of this post) that page was last updated in January.
Could any given XDA visitor get this information on their own? Yes, but it can be confusing, frustrating, and time consuming. ROM authors and update threads change, and some of the most popular ROMs are no longer maintained.
Should this be somewhere else? I don't believe so. If I'm interested in getting a ROM, I go to where the ROM developers post them. They don't post in Kaiser General, so I don't go there for ROMs. Naturally, I wouldn't expect to find a list of popular ROMs there, either.
Frankly, I think the FAQ actually has too much info, especially since there's a wiki with all of that (and more). As for the wiki, it's not the easiest thing to navigate. For example, a search for "Kaiser" brings up a list of pages, but should I click the HTC_Kaiser link, or the Kaiser link? If I'm looking for info on Kaiser ROMs, do I choose KaiserROMs or Kaiser_ROMs? KaiserROMs directs me to see either Kaiser Cooked Roms or Kaiser Shipped Roms, the latter being a link to the Kaiser_ROMs page.
My point is simply this: Fingerlickin's post lists several of the most popular, and still updated, ROMs. This info is not available on the wiki or in the FAQ, and pertains directly to the ROMs developed and posted on this forum. It might be easier to maintain if it were on the wiki, but it might end up harder to find. It's definitely not redundant or in the wrong forum, and it IS a time saver.
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Exactly all the most up to date things will be within first 2 pages and even if not then surely it's worth putting in the effort to find a ROM that you want and like, by that i mean to do a bit of research read some of the reviews flash it and then probably go somewhere else and flash untill you find the ROM that suits your needs and wishes, blah blah too many threadz with Help\Fastest ROM\Best ROM or just posted in the bloody wrong section.
Blah Blah Blah..............
msd24200 where's that cat when you need him?
DamionFury: I read it all and you have some valib point but time consuming is all part of it your flashing a UK £200ish phone............. Take some time, do some learning..... You don't need to use the search for Kaiser ROMs go through the pages of ROM Development and you can just flip & flip & flip till you find what you want???

I enjoy using my phone when it has a ROM that I like; I don't enjoy spending hours finding that ROM. I have far too many things I'd rather be doing. I spend the time finding the ROM because I believe that it's worth it, but anything that reduces the expenditure is great in my book.

DamionFury said:
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I've been lurking XDA for quite some time, have read countless threads, and flashed numerous ROMs. I'm no chef/expert, but I'm not a n00b either. My visits to XDA are far from regular and usually involve either obtaining a new ROM or checking on the status of Android on the Kaiser. I greatly appreciate the work of everyone who cooks ROMs, administrates the forum/wiki, or just generally puts in time to help the community, and try to stay out of the way unless I have a good question or something useful to add. I use the search function and the wiki religiously. In short, I'm probably a good example of the typical XDA visitor. Here's my opinion:
@Fingerlickin: Thank you. The effort is appreciated, but I don't imagine you'll want to come back and update this every few months. If you make a new wiki page or add the popularity info to the existing ROM list, other people can update it in future. Then, you could just edit your post and make it a link to the wiki (or have the mods add the link to the FAQ) so that it comes up in forum searches.
@Travito & msd24200: You say that a more extensive list can be found elsewhere and that a post like this doesn't belong in the ROM development forum. With all due respect, I think you are missing the point. Fingerlickin didn't post a list of all ROMS, he posted something of a Top 8 list. It wasn't intended to be comprehensive.
Could he have updated the wiki instead of making a new post? Sure, but (at the time of this post) that page was last updated in January.
Could any given XDA visitor get this information on their own? Yes, but it can be confusing, frustrating, and time consuming. ROM authors and update threads change, and some of the most popular ROMs are no longer maintained.
Should this be somewhere else? I don't believe so. If I'm interested in getting a ROM, I go to where the ROM developers post them. They don't post in Kaiser General, so I don't go there for ROMs. Naturally, I wouldn't expect to find a list of popular ROMs there, either.
Frankly, I think the FAQ actually has too much info, especially since there's a wiki with all of that (and more). As for the wiki, it's not the easiest thing to navigate. For example, a search for "Kaiser" brings up a list of pages, but should I click the HTC_Kaiser link, or the Kaiser link? If I'm looking for info on Kaiser ROMs, do I choose KaiserROMs or Kaiser_ROMs? KaiserROMs directs me to see either Kaiser Cooked Roms or Kaiser Shipped Roms, the latter being a link to the Kaiser_ROMs page.
My point is simply this: Fingerlickin's post lists several of the most popular, and still updated, ROMs. This info is not available on the wiki or in the FAQ, and pertains directly to the ROMs developed and posted on this forum. It might be easier to maintain if it were on the wiki, but it might end up harder to find. It's definitely not redundant or in the wrong forum, and it IS a time saver.
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and again there is no point to be missing the fact is this is a rom development thread not a come and get it and here's the menu thread. THIS HAS BEEN GONE OVER AND OVER AND OVER so many times. the roms that are "hot" will always be on the first couple of pages of the forum because so many use them they don't have time to drop back to page 3. you guys that want to spoon feed should start your own website linking back to the rom threads on here then. and as far as the wiki goes it's all there and ANYONE can update the wiki at anytime.