I know I'm on the minority but what the heck! I hate the software on the Treo 750 as much as I love the form factor of the device itself. Is there a cooked ROM that uses the normal WM Phone application as opposed to the Today plugin phone from Palm? Same would go for the Messaging app - I prefer the normal Messaging program over Palm's chat wannabe.
Alternatively, is there a way to enable the normal WM applications on Palm's ROMs?
Thanks for any info.
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Ok I have done quite a bit of trial and testing before posting this and feel now is the time.
I have installed and tested a good number or custom WM6 roms. See list below:
NBD 7.9
NBD 8.0
NBD 8.1
NBD 8.2
NBD 8.3
NBD 9.0
NBD 9.1
OCTAIVOI's Wizard 3.2
OCTAIVOI's Wizard 4.5
TNT 4.0 Professional
Black Diamond 2.0 Touch
faria-htc wizard...WWE WM6 ROM- [the real thing]
Windows Mobile 6 - Titanium 2 (WM6Ti)
I love flashing new WM6 roms and testing them out but I also rely heavily on 3rd party software that I have to install after the flashing is complete. For every one of these roms mentioned above, I have experienced performance issues(slows down to a crawl) when installing larger amounts of 3rd party software not included in rom.
On thie flip side, when I install T-Mobile's official WM5 rom and then install large amounts of 3rd party software, the performance of the phone isn't affected in the least.
What I would like to see, is a custom WM6 rom with the performance of WM5 after installing large amounts of software. I believe the only way to do this is to change the page pool to 12mb because other than software installed, the pagepool is pretty much the only difference between these WM6 roms and and official WM5 rom I downloaded from T-Mobile.
Here is what I install on every rom I use:
Wisbar Advance 2
Palm Threaded SMS (WM5 or WM6 depending on what rom I am using)
Inesoft Address Book
Resco Explorer
Resco Registry Add-in
Resco Keyboard pro
Batterystatus
Weatherpanel
Chronos
Coreplayer
For WM5 roms I also install:
Touch WMP skin
HTC audio manager
Touch syle dialpad skin
10 button comm manager
When I am running T-Mobile WM5 then installing all of these programs does not impede the performance of the phone whatsoever but every WM6 rom I have tried to date has slowed down to a crawl when installing this software. I dont understand why... It just does.
Right now I dont even have all of my software installed. This is all the software I have installed, not already included in rom:
Wisbar Advance 2
Inesoft Address Book
WM6 Palm Threaded SMS
Thats it and it is running so slow I can't stand it...
of course will find WM 5.0 more stable than WM 6.0 if you install all of these 3rd party apps, WM 5.0 compatibles with all the Apps listed, not like WM 6.0.
- What you have to do??
- find the app effecting on WM6.0 and replace it with newer version (if available).
its right said:
of course will find WM 5.0 more stable than WM 6.0 if you install all of these 3rd party apps, WM 5.0 compatibles with all the Apps listed, not like WM 6.0.
- What you have to do??
- find the app effecting on WM6.0 and replace it with newer version (if available).
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That sounds like a good idea but when it comes down to it, most of the software I use isn't really available for WM6 yet. For example: Wisbar Advance 2 and Inesoft Address Book.
dharvey4651 said:
That sounds like a good idea but when it comes down to it, most of the software I use isn't really available for WM6 yet. For example: Wisbar Advance 2 and Inesoft Address Book.
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i didn't read correctly, are you using Inesoft Address Book!! it is the most effector on the system (at least WM 6.0).
we are looking for many of 3rd party applications we are not really using them, so revise yourself and check out the most important apps for your really using and install them, test this thing for a week, then you will know which important, the stability or too many apps .
thats not means i'm not a 3rd party applications user
its right said:
i didn't read correctly, are you using Inesoft Address Book!! it is the most effector on the system (at least WM 6.0).
we are looking for many of 3rd party applications we are not really using them, so revise yourself and check out the most important apps for your really using and install them, test this thing for a week, then you will know which important, the stability or too many apps .
thats not means i'm not a 3rd party applications user
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I am going to try installing Windows Mobile 6 Titanium 2 again and install 1 app per day untill I find the one that is killing the performance of the rom. Thanks for the idea.
hey guys (and girls where aplicable),
i got a question (a sorta dumb one). If a smartphone lik the iPAQ 514 Voice Messenger or the HTC Vox have windows mobile 6 standard does that mean they run regular windows mobile programs or smartphone versions? See the Cheeta/treo 750 has windows mobile standard ed. and is called a smartphone but it uses regular PPC programs, the other two mentioned before have the same wm6 but no touch screen. so i was wondering if that made a diference in the phones capabilities to use PPC Progs? I appreciate any answers as i am greatly puzzled and intregued buy this.
With WM6 they dispensed with the term "smartphone" in favour of WM 6 Standard. Too many non Windows Mobile phones were being called "smart phones" as well as PPC phones.
WM Standard has no support for touch screens and many PPC apps will not run on it.
WM Pro has touchscreens.
understanding versions...
so lemmie go over this... a ppc with a touch screen is said to run WM6 pro, a ppc without a touch screen is said to run wm6 standard the "smartphone" version. so what of the vox? it has all the capabilities of a full sized PPC without the touch screen so where would it and the ipaq 514 fit in? Because correct me if i'm wrong but dont they offer features like MS Office editing and production verus the others whose ability is limited to viewing or is it the WM6 platform that actually enables this?
You're right, its just a functionality of WM6. Any smartphone (i.e. non-Touch screen device) running WM6 has those same office capabilities and will be running WM6 Standard, not Professional.
As far as I know the two WM6 are one same core of the same OS but..
In the PPC version there is more advanced setup in the menus wich setup is locked in the Srtandard by default.
For example in the Standard there is no way to change the IP of the wi-fi manually.
And in the pocket pc there is some dll's, responsible for touchscreen operation .
yes but....
i do believe you might be correct on everything but the I.P setup for standard. i have an sda running wm6 and i can manually setup my wifi and change certain settings in the network config. Also the HP ipaq 514 that i've been researching also has the same features. see my big thing is i love he compact size of the smart phone but need the capabilities of the PPC. It wold be great if i could get the best of both. i know the O2 XDA stealth has that exact combo but they are hard to find and kinda pricey for thier age.
There are separate SDKs for Standard and Pro, so I think the differences run a little deeper.
well what to do?
well i guess my final questions then wuld be what kind of phone are:-
1/ O2's xda stealth
2/ HP's Ipaq 514
how many WM6.1 Roms there is ?
Is there only 2 Version for Treo 750 right now the "Normal" and "Light" ?
oh and isn't WM6.1 ment to have carousel interface ?
((and wasn't it ment to have a feature to manege all the data (eg. Contacts, E-mail) from web service, so like if u lost ur fone u cen wipe it remoutly (that was a rumer online b4 WM6.0 ware out)))
I think those features are for the standard smart phone edition not the Pocket PC.
WM 6 and WM6.1 both have the remote wipe feature, but this can only be performed if your device is conncected to an Exchange 2007 (or later) server.
The new interface has only been shown on standard devices and thats where most of the focus has been because it is difficult to navigate around some WM standard devices, but you will see it come to WM Pro devices
Hay all, first time so... be gentle.
So I've just got my grubby mits on the huge and amazing Toshiba TG01, this is the 4.1 inch, snapdragon running competitor to the iphone... I've got it on Orange in the UK (so it's all UK GSM, 3G and HSDPA radios here if it matters for support reasons)
Now the TG01's "stripe" interface looks... well fugly, no two ways about it.
Orange provide their own UI which is inspired by the PS3's I suspect, and it's usable, but does nothing once your deep in winmo 6.1 territory (contact lists etc)
I've tried to get TouchFlo 3D and 2D running on the device (including via throttle launcher) but to no joy....
Does anyone know how This Bugger managed it?
Have any of the truly genius coders here managed it on devices more powerful than HTC's (touchflo2D seem to be other way round) - or can anyone suggest alternative UI's till the winmo 6.5 upgrade roles round?
Cheers!
Raze'
SPB Mobile Shell
Hey mate,
I have a TG01 and I am using SPB Mobile shell, its a shell on top on top of the OS, its about $30 but its head a shoulders above the crappy GUI's that come installed.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
HTH
ninja
razerbug said:
Hay all, first time so... be gentle.
So I've just got my grubby mits on the huge and amazing Toshiba TG01, this is the 4.1 inch, snapdragon running competitor to the iphone... I've got it on Orange in the UK (so it's all UK GSM, 3G and HSDPA radios here if it matters for support reasons)
Now the TG01's "stripe" interface looks... well fugly, no two ways about it.
Orange provide their own UI which is inspired by the PS3's I suspect, and it's usable, but does nothing once your deep in winmo 6.1 territory (contact lists etc)
I've tried to get TouchFlo 3D and 2D running on the device (including via throttle launcher) but to no joy....
Does anyone know how This Bugger managed it?
Have any of the truly genius coders here managed it on devices more powerful than HTC's (touchflo2D seem to be other way round) - or can anyone suggest alternative UI's till the winmo 6.5 upgrade roles round?
Cheers!
Raze'
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"That Bugger" used itje's Blackstone cab to get it on the phone. It says so in the video's comments.
To save you the trouble, you might want to click this link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154
The TG01 will get an official WM6.5 upgrade.
I think the WM6.5 interface is pretty good, even without TouchFlo. So my advice is to just wait for the official WM6.5 upgrade, disable all of Toshiba's interface extensions and enable WM6.5 default home plugin (Titanium).
You can also try alternative interfaces like SPB Mobile Shell, Throttle Launcher, PoinUI etc. and alternative programs like Kinoma Play, Resco Photo Viewer etc.
Hi all, thanks for the advice, in the end I found PointUI and in turn PointSense which near perfectly reproduces the touchflo interface.
but I agree the winmo6.5 will really improve the phone, I belive toshiba planned to release it with 6.5 but MS's stalling meant that didn't happen.
Cheers again.
Greetings All,
I am a newbie to any sort of forum and I wish to express my thanks in advance for your help.
I have been a WM (HTC Tilt WM 6.1) user for 4 years. Just recently I have been having issues with my phone and I need to purchase a new phone, but I totally confused on what to purchase.
My Tilt has the following programs installed, that I use on a daily basis:
Voice Command, Note2Self, SPB Wallet, SK Tools, Skype, Handy Shopper, in addition to the WM Office suite.
These are the programs that work well for me and I am comfortable with.
My question is this>
Can a widows 7 Phone do all the above or do I find a used WM 6.1 or 6.5 phone…will I like WM 6.5 better?
Or dare I say it…an Android?
Since your a windows mobile user and I'm guessing your most familiar with that os I suggest the touch pro 2 or the HD2. The touch pro 2 because it's a user friendly device, nice sized keyboard and purely reliable. The hd2 is also a nice pick it has a 4.3in screen an extremely fast processor and the touch is pretty sensitive/similar to the iPhone. You can go to htc.com to check the specs and see what you like best.
These are both 6.5 wm capable phones and the HD2 can flash wp7. I personally like winmo over android because of office suite but android is not bad either.
thanks for the info...what does "flash wp7" mean?
The HD2 has a very active dev community and one of the things they have accomplished is to port other operating systems to the device. So you have a choice now between keeping it on the stock WM6.5, or 'flashing' an alternative OS like WP7 or Android.
If you bought one yourself you would have the added bonus of being able to use the apps that you are familiar with.
Thanks for your thoughts.
What about the new HTC Inspire...any thoughts?