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! How to ask (netiquette basics) !

1) SEARCH and think
Look in the forum, don't be lazy and READ, most of us like to help people, but why do we have to repeat everything a thousand times. You waste our time.
Essential places to look at:
Forum on this site
PDAPhoneHome FAQ http://pdaphonehome.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=21
Google
2) Define the problem
"My XDA doesn't work. Help me" is wrong ;-)
always include all available details - error messages, behaviour of the device
If you are upgrading ROM include device version (eg. T-Mobile MDA PW10A2, ROM 3.14.03, Radio stack T3.10) - this can be found in Settings>Device Information.
3) Be polite
"Gimme a ROM v 3.15.15"
this can't be seen in the fora but I keep on receiving such e-mails. Why don't you people say "Please, can you give me a link to the 3.15.15. ROM? Thx blabla."
Half the e-mails sound like if I HAD to give you something. I am not employed by HTC nor do I provide technical support as anybody's employee. Sorry to those who ask politely
4) Get a proper name for your thread
Don't name your threads like "Help" "XDA" "ROM update" or "Lame question." We want to know what the thread is about BEFORE we read it. That's what subjects are for...
and more and more and more...
2Admins: Can I have this thread sticky? Thx

disabling the touch pad configuration at startup
thanks for the tip
is it possible to disable the touch pad configuration at
the initial start up.my touchpad isnt functioning and i
wish anyone would help me with a rom that doesnt allow
you to configure the touch panel so you can go straght to
the system.
my Pda is
tmobile MDA USA
IPL 2.26.
SPL 2.26.
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
thanks in advance

also bad netiquette to hijack threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296676&highlight=avoid+align

wm6 4 Magician it is not a dream

sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too

So, if i understand you correct your plan is to create a wm6 rom for the magician, right? This would be really cool...
P.S.
kingt0t said:
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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i think you mean "guys" when you say "gays"
good luck with your project!

Kingt0t, what you want to do ain't something that hasn't been thought before...yes, you can do a WM6 for magician (hell, you can invent a new OS if you wish...lol) The thing is...time.
There's no drivers for the magician hardware built inside any WM6 ROM...(well, not entirely true - there's probable a few WM 5/6 ROMs which might have a few drivers for our hardware - but not all that are required so to make a workable magician ROM).
You probably would need to create drivers for all missing/required magician hardware...oh and above all...you probably would need to create a special/new bootloader because it seems to me that since WM5, the bootloader has changed it's way of loading the Windows Mobile OSes... (They use what is now called IPL/SPL...)
I'm not trying to discourage you...it's just that we (xda community) have heard about so many people with the same thoughts, giving up after realizing the enormous amount of work that would be required so to build a working wm6 magician ROM
Anyway, if you're really into it, then start by studying what hardware the magician has and how it works...
I can give you a few ideias right now:
- The CPU (PXA272) uses what is called a strataflash (It is glued to the cpu), which i believe there's not many models with this concept(if any). Most of them uses what is called DOC (Disk On Chip).
(if this ain't true, please someone correct me if i'm wrong)
- IDK if there's a driver for this CPU model in any other PPC with WM5/WM6...
- You will probably need to disassemble alot of dlls / .sys / Etc, so to figure out the functions names; what do they do; how do they interact with the rest of the OS...etc...
- Last but not the least, you would need to strip out alot of stuff since the magician only has 64Mb ROM or you could study how HARET (for linux) works and how it allows us to boot a SD Card partition image...
oh well...start posting away if you need help...for shure some gurus in here will start dropping you ideias, concepts, tests that were already made...
Best Regards,
Keeper
P.S: honestely, if someday microsoft decides to release the source code for WM2003 (like they did for win9x and windows 2000), then maybe, just maybe, we will be able to compile a modified version with some parts of the WM 5/6/xxx...

Maybe this is a good start, at least for WM5?
Ubiquio 401 has the same PXA272 CPU and 64MB ROM as the Magician, but it comes with WM5. Perhaps the IPL/SPL and CPU drivers that come with the FW will make less work for some smart person to make a custom Magician ROM.
Here is the Ubiquio 401 ROM, maybe somebody can extract some useful stuff from it:
ubiquio-401-v1.12.26.rar
I think it's also the same as the Gigabyte g-Smart i. g-Smart i uses WM5 AKU2. I don't know which AKU the Ubiquio uses.

Gnat,
There's one big issue in all this... When someone wants to seriously mess around with an operating system and it's "BIOS" (aka booloader) having direct access to the hardware is a must. Since we don't know the JTAG test point pins for the magician and knowing that no one is willing to trash their magician so that we can find out where they are located on the magician's PCB, (which would allow us to test various bootloaders + roms, without the risk of loosing our magicians), i doubt that anyone in here is willing to do blind tests with different model ROMs / Cooked roms, without some sort of backup like this one.
Check the last pages of this thread so to see what i'm talking about...(hell, check all this thread so to see what can happen when you flash something and there's a problem with it or along the installation of it...) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319354
So, if you're willing to do this ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WallabyJTAG )...or know someone that is, then we might be able to start doing something... :-|
If we had JTAG access, we could start using the Windows CE 5.0 Evaluation Kit which would allow us to communicate directly to the hardware via JTAG and test cooked bootloaders and ROMs. (check this link for more info: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa447041.aspx )
Keeper

hope this dream come true....WM6 or just WM5 for IMATE JAM

kingt0t said:
sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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if you do this, many will make a donation for your hard work...a NEW WM5 or WM6 ROM FOR the MAGICIAN.

Wow, that's a lot of work to find JTAG points. I have even more respect for people like Helmi if he had to find JTAG points for every device he has made a WM5 and WM6 for!
I don't think I will be finding the JTAG points on my Magician - I don't want to kill it! However, if anyone has a dead, fried or water damaged Magician, I will gladly pull the BGA off and trace the JTAG points.
If the JTAG points have a specific "signature" when viewed on an oscilloscope, I would be happy to trace them that way since I do have a 100MHz DSO available.

i hope too, this dream to ours magician

Oh btw...the taxist russian guy which released the 2.01~3TX rom did NOT made a WM6 for the magician - He simply opened up a magician ROM, changed a few icons, sounds, apps and packed it again...the Operating system still is WM2003se.
if you guys want to try and mod your own roms, use the following tools: alpinenbfdecode.pl, splitrom.pl and dumprom. They are available at the itsme website. ( http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/ )
Anyway, check this thread...there's a small script on how to re-create the XIP structure: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=3924&st=1020#entry744997
Once again, this ain't gonna change your OS (there's no WM5/6 IPL/SPL for the magician) - it will only allow you to mod a few things... :-(
Keeper

Zoneaone
It very fantastic for your effort. thanks.

are you still there kingT0T?

ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right

okey kingt0t...so what you want to do is something like taxist did...a modded ROM with a WM2k3 kernel core...
Well, one thing that i would suggest that you could start doing, would be a new bluetooth stack based on the WM 2k5/2k6 one (widcomm, i think)...
Anyway, idk russian and has so, i don't understand much of what is said on that link, but what i did understand is that taxist found a way of modifying the programs in a way that he could insert them has XIP (eXecution In Place), without breaking the expected original execution addresses...the thing is: he never revealed how he has done it...
There's a few guys in there that are trying to do what he has done by using the three tools that i've posted previously, but idk if they did acomplished the "XIP chain ROM address redirectioning"...
Regards,
Keeper

kingt0t said:
ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
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First prioduce a WM5.0 ROM instead of talking!

Yés kingtot wm6 4 Magician it is not a dream,it is a mirage...

kingt0t said:
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right
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I'm not sure I understand. You want a WM2003SE that only looks like WM5/WM6? But then it can't run WM5/WM6-specific apps... what purpose is that? I hardly see the point. If that's what you want, it already exists and besides, you can just use Wisbar or something similar and make a theme.

WM2003SuperSe must run wm5 apps. it's main task !!!!

still dream or stop
what's going on?

wm6 again became dream

What can i do with my Kaiser?

hello to all of you.
first of all, as everyone, i want to thank everyone who is working hard to make our phones more interesting...
i have a TYTN II - Kaiser
windows mobile 6 professional build 5.2.1620
Rom Version 1.56.405.5
Radio Version 1.27.12.11
Protocol Version 22.45.88.07H (if it's even relevent)
i want to first of all if is there any fix for the bad sound on BT?
is there an update to windows mobile 6.1 and what is the difference? i didn't find an update to my rom version...
doe's WM 6.1 fixes the BT bad quality?
and now, i want to know what can i do to make my kaiser more intersting and fun.
please write me everything that come's in mind.
Thank You very much!!!

tlccksww said:
hello to all of you.
first of all, as everyone, i want to thank everyone who is working hard to make our phones more interesting...
i have a TYTN II - Kaiser
windows mobile 6 professional build 5.2.1620
Rom Version 1.56.405.5
Radio Version 1.27.12.11
Protocol Version 22.45.88.07H (if it's even relevent)
i want to first of all if is there any fix for the bad sound on BT?
is there an update to windows mobile 6.1 and what is the difference? i didn't find an update to my rom version...
doe's WM 6.1 fixes the BT bad quality?
and now, i want to know what can i do to make my kaiser more intersting and fun.
please write me everything that come's in mind.
Thank You very much!!!
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It's ok guys I got this one.
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en

alltheway said:
It's ok guys I got this one.
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en
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LOLz.
You need to do nothing, just send me your phone.

i know it's quite a big question but it would be nice to get some ideas.
things you tried and happy with it.
and an advice about the WM 6.1...
thanx

he's already told you what to do. Anyway, here is another hint, read the stickies & wiki.

tlccksww said:
i know it's quite a big question but it would be nice to get some ideas.
things you tried and happy with it.
and an advice about the WM 6.1...
thanx
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It is a big question, but all your questions are answered in this huge forum already, so you have to go and do some reading and searching for yourself and you will find all your answers, plus more and you will learn a lot. You will see what people said about 6.1 and you will see waht people said about BT just by reading other threads.

Dude, theres official BT fix to download from the HTC: (Bluetooth Hot Fix (for HTC TyTN II) )
http://rapidshare.com/files/77706792/Kai06492.CAB.html
When it comes to "what You can do with You device" the limit is the limit of Your imagination. The people at xda-developer is doing magic, but please use the wiki's and the search function like:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
From this wiki You select the device of Your interest (Kaiser) http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Now You have the world in front of You: Reviews, Discussions, Hacks and tweaks, ROM upgarding etc.

tlccksww said:
hello to all of you.
i want to know what can i do to make my kaiser more intersting and fun.
please write me everything that come's in mind.
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1. the vibrate function can provide you hours of enjoyment, with proper placement (external or internal, your choice)
2. install as many programs as possible, filling up both main memory and storage card, using them once or twice then never use them again. after flashing a new rom, install a new assortment of software you probably don't need.
3. re-encode your favourite pr0n to ppc scaling and impress your friends with today's pocket pr0n.
4. port over wm5 from the wizard (blinding speeds, you won't be sorry)
5. read ALL the stickies in Kaiser upgrading area of forum (this isn't near as fun as the other suggestions, but you'll be able to answer your own questions, and be comfortable in the knowledge that you can hack your phone "without any help")
1 and 3 make a nice combo too!

Yes there is a WM6.1 upgrade, i am using Shaps at the moment and it seems to work fine for me.
WM6.1 doesnt give you a huge amount new, Shaps 6.1 rom for me has been stable and quick, i dont tend to install much on my phones though other than the included stuff. I do a few bits and install TomTom. 6.1 has threaded sms which is nice but has some annoying little issues, like i cant seem to find a way to forward sms messages any more. bit annoying.
Flicking through some of the other forums people seemed to be muttering about not being able to sync there 6.1 phones with ex2003, i use ex2007 though so i cant comment, mine works fine.
Havent noticed any bad sound quality over bluetooth. Be more specific though, do you mean stereo bluetooth or just normal.
I use the htc home plugin looks nice and works well.
Hope i have helped.
Rob
ps. Remember before you rush out and start flashing roms, read the wiki and things. You have to do stuff like hard spl and things first.
If i were you i would do it in this order.
1. hard spl
2. sim unlock (if needed)
3. wm 6.1 rom
4. radio rom

zetajunkie said:
1. the vibrate function can provide you hours of enjoyment, with proper placement (external or internal, your choice)
2. install as many programs as possible, filling up both main memory and storage card, using them once or twice then never use them again. after flashing a new rom, install a new assortment of software you probably don't need.
3. re-encode your favourite pr0n to ppc scaling and impress your friends with today's pocket pr0n.
4. port over wm5 from the wizard (blinding speeds, you won't be sorry)
5. read ALL the stickies in Kaiser upgrading area of forum (this isn't near as fun as the other suggestions, but you'll be able to answer your own questions, and be comfortable in the knowledge that you can hack your phone "without any help")
1 and 3 make a nice combo too!
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You are one sick and twisted individual and I like it.

Start with the beginning of the internet at www.www.com and read through the entire thing.

I like to turn on wifi, 3g, gps, and bluetooth and use my kaiser to keep my coffee warm.

spl 4.21 and wm6.1 aku1 (5.2.2000) download?

hi, ive seen a spl 4.21 and wm 6.1 aku 1 listed on a few sites (for example: http://www.wm-gurus.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=861) and am curious if anyone here has heard anything about any roms in development or possible locations to download the new spl or wm 6.1aku1..

well, 316 views and not one comment? can anyone provide any information, please?

If I could see the post, I'd look at it and maybe even reply. But I can't see it. The registration process is taking some odd ammount of time.
Sorry. don't know what I'm looking for here.

5.2.2000 is a fake build.
But 5.2.19199 is a real wm6.1 aku1 - build.

sry, i found that posting after i signed up, didnt realize that u couldnt see it without registering
but anyway the post talks about a russian site that has a russian rom of wm6.1 aku1 here:http://3ppc.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4572 he has about 3 other versions of that rom and if u look at his spl at the bottom its the 4.21. also i noticed hes runing this rom:http://www.3ppc.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5450&page=5 which says directly at the top wm6.1 aku 1
Now any buddy up for porting it over to our language?

well i discovered that if u click on his spl at the bottom you can get to a download page for the 4.21 spl, but u need to register and it asks u a no spam question that it wants you to answer but when i run it thru a translater i get: During the winter and summer of one color ...? (too bad i cant read the original russian) if anyone can read russian and sign up for that site (or tell me what the answer is) to get the spl and rom and post it here that would be realy great

maxstegi said:
5.2.2000 is a fake build.
But 5.2.19199 is a real wm6.1 aku1 - build.
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even if it is fake, wouldnt it be nice to check out at least?

pyrorob said:
even if it is fake, wouldnt it be nice to check out at least?
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I can't register without a russian keyboard. in fact my comp isn't even set up for russian. Otherwise I would download it from my comrades.
however: I don't trust that it is a safe version.. or at least a real one.
here is my recomendation: install russian language on your pc, and use the onscreen keyboard to type in the info they are asking for. Using two pages (one translated by google) you should be able to figure out what is said, while still tupe the info with Cyrylic character set

[Q] HSPL and Mango

Hi there,
Having watched your fear-inspiring n00b video I feel that first an apology is necessary, however I was unable to post this in the relevent thread because I don't have enough posts, and someone else has asked the same question (so i don't feel dumb) but it didn't get an anwser so perhaps it was overlooked among other questions... So i do apologise, don't flame me, i'm a n00b, 'k...
So, I read your warnings, and I have NOOOO( B! ) idea what "HSPL" means, I am not a hacker or coder sans an A-level in computing... A VB if statement is about all i know
However, before my MS wp7 dev account was validated (I'm an impatient guy, having had my lego taken away as a kid and having bad feelings about it ever since) I used one of the hacks to flash Mango B1 onto my HD7. It is now restoring from the B2 to pre-mango-state (NoDo).
I have no idea wether or not the tool that i used is what is meant by HSPL, and so i really want to know wether or not I can safetly use Schubert, or if my phone will become an unholy breezeblock of sorts...
Fire extinguisher on stand-by incase i breached any rules that may get me flamed....
Danny
EDIT : Gah, the tool didn't work for me anyway, even in the bootloader mode.... never mind haha

HSPL/RSPL are hacked bootloaders that allow you to flash any ROM to your device. They are basically "unlocked" in that they don't perform the security checks.
Your stock SPL they refer to OSPL, O = original. The way to check if you have HSPL is to power down your device & than turn it back on by holding down Volume Down & pressing Power. Keep holding Volume Down till you see the Tri-Color screen (Red/Green/Blue/White). The second line will give your SPL version. If is says SPL, you have the stock SPL. If it says HSPL, than you have HSPL flashed.
Hope this helps.
PS: To get out of the Boatloader, pull your battery.