** UPDATED **
PLAzmA's Sliding Sound Pack for Wizard and windows mobile phones with slide out keyboards
*Note: only use the NUMBERED CAB files to install if you are using a TYTN II Phone or if you have the standard HTC Sliding sound system built into your rom. If however on phones like the HTC Wizard where no sliding sound is currently present, install the SlidingSound.cab file, and then launch the program and assign the files manually. The Numbered CAB files will not work for the older phone method.
List Of WAV FILES USED:
0 : Wind Chimes
1 : Piano
2 : Xylophone
3 : Futurama Bender
4 : Might Boosh
5 : Startrek TOS
6 : Dalek
7 : Cash Register
8 : Electricity
9 : Electric Motor
10: Hal 2001
11: POP
METHOD 1: TO INSTALL NEW HTC PHONES LIKE KAISER BY CAB FILES:
This is really easy pick one of the numbered install files from "Kaiser - Modern Phones CAB Install Files.rar", you can either install the complete pack or just one of the sounds, however as it must have a constant number sequence in the registry, its programmed to replace the 3 base sounds in every pack. This is to ensure that the pack works correctly despite possible older mods. This means if you remove a pack it will also take the 3 base sounds with it, however at any time you want to go back run the htc base sounds pack, make sure you first uninstall the previous pack completely and the run the base pack install cab.
*Note: above numbered cab method only for newer phones with htc slide service like the kaiser, DONOT install onto older phones like wizard as this will not work see the next method.
METHOD 2: TO INSTALL BY ADD ON SLIDINGSOUND.CAB METHOD TO OLDER PHONES:
Install cab file and run sliding sound program, turn on slide detect service and assign wav files manually, refer to the list above for the appropriate numbers, there are two files to select from a simple "SlideSound.cab" file which just has a basic pop noise, additional sounds will need to be install manually, or to install the program and sounds all in one go, install the "SlideSound - All Sounds.cab"
*Note: above cab method is only for phones without the htc sliding sounds program built into your rom and only required on older phones like the herms, wizard etc..
R°CK ON PLAzmA 2009
Download is at :
http://rapidshare.com/files/93019505/PLAzmAs_Sliding_Sound_pack_for_Windows_Mobile_V2.rar.html
Mirror at :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMWH2FKW
amazing!! Ok! Ok! OK! yess!! thanks man!
Awesome
Works great on my wizard.
Thanks
about: sliding sound
Thanks, work perfect in my wizard.
good work, i will try this cab in my Hermes and report later.
Works Great on my wizard
Thanks. Anyway we could add our own sounds?
Your own Wav Files
Yeah sure, just create in the same format, alternativly you can post links (wav) files here and i will try and add them to the pack when/if i have time.
I've tried both .cab files on my 8125 with no luck.
The program installs just fine, and I can change the sounds. But no sound plays. The volume is up to max, and other sounds play just fine.
Any ideas?
I've got the program to now play sounds and function since I realised that it was for WM 6. I've since upgraded my Wizard to the Slim 6.1.
I'm getting a 4 second delay in the playing of the sounds when I open and close the slide. I've tried using other sounds from various folders with the same result.
Thanks for making these....works great on my titan
i appreciate this kind of effort put into a feature that shouldn't be on this phone, but...
_why_ would you _ever_ want to make your phone make a sound when you slide it open? to each his own, but i honestly don't get it... don't know why its in the wing either. i don't understand why people would want their menus to make a pop sound as well, or their windows machines make sounds (the defaults that no one ever turns off)...
im really not trying to hate on it, im just curious what the rationale is for those that like the feature? is it just more desirable to have a phone make sounds?
To sound, or not to sound
ndn715 said:
i appreciate this kind of effort put into a feature that shouldn't be on this phone, but...
_why_ would you _ever_ want to make your phone make a sound when you slide it open? to each his own, but i honestly don't get it... don't know why its in the wing either. i don't understand why people would want their menus to make a pop sound as well, or their windows machines make sounds (the defaults that no one ever turns off)...
im really not trying to hate on it, im just curious what the rationale is for those that like the feature? is it just more desirable to have a phone make sounds?
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Coming from a Wizard to the Tilt, personally it bugged me not to have some audible feedback when I accessed the menu, so I added that in. I can understand why one might like silence, too, but I like a small sound.
As for keyboard sliding sounds, it's just a fun thing - sometimes I turn it off, sometimes I set it up for SciFi or LightSabre to show off my geekiness to friends and family.
Are these sounds available in .wav format?
wav format
Yeah if i remember they are all in wav format and are 44khz 16 bit stereo.
Is there an easy way to toggle this off and on for the Rapheal?
well i have k-jam having wm6.1 rom,cid unlocked.
never ever had sliding sounds.
can i use this file
Should Be able to
dhawal4u said:
well i have k-jam having wm6.1 rom,cid unlocked.
never ever had sliding sounds.
can i use this file
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I belive so, some users have reported it working with the wizard (kjam) however last time i tried it on a wm6 rom it didnt work, although users with 6.1 have reported it working... let me know how you get on.
plazma247 said:
I belive so, some users have reported it working with the wizard (kjam) however last time i tried it on a wm6 rom it didnt work, although users with 6.1 have reported it working... let me know how you get on.
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well its working well.
nice to see that.
but
i feel that phone have become sluggish.
it may not be becoz of this but may be.
this is so that i have manilla 2d installed.
so fingers crossed
manilla 2d
heheh, thats going to hog the phones resources like a fat lady and a box of chocolates dude... once you got board with manilla 2d i suggest you take it off to see the diffirence and get some runtime back
plazma247 said:
heheh, thats going to hog the phones resources like a fat lady and a box of chocolates dude... once you got board with manilla 2d i suggest you take it off to see the diffirence and get some runtime back
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yeah thats true but i love manilla 2d & yeah ur software too
so have to compromise....
Related
If anyone here has tried to use an i.tech stereo headset (like the R35 or S35) or other A2DP headset and has been dissapointed with the sound quality (commonly referred to as a "ringing" distortion or hissing over the sound) using the A2DP for tornado hack, its because the MS Bluetooth Stack isn't 100% compatible with all (most) headsets. Its particularly noticeable on i.tech, but the reduced quality is true on many others as well.
In case you didn't know, Blueplayer is a standalone app that streams music to A2DP headphones even if the phone doesn't support A2DP in its own stack! That means any phone with bluetooth (some even claim older 1.1 devices as well) can bypass the usual MS stack in our devices and stream stereo sound directly to a compatible headset!
The software was written for Nokia S60 devices initially, but there have been Pocket PC and java versions (only compatible with specific phones) released since then as well.
I'm very annoyed by the sound quality of my itech R35 paired with my imate SP5. I'm 100% sure that software such as blueplayer would solve this problem. However, the PPC and java versions don't seem to work on my device.
Can anyone help me figure out how to make this work? I tried extracting the files from the PPC cab file, but its complaining about missing libraries. The install may add some things to the registry that I'm missing.
Better yet, does anyone have anything like this for WM Smartphone?
what are you missing? I got blueplayer running with my S35 and the quality is excellent and range good(for me)...
Unfortunately I am using a Wizard...
I wish I could get it working!
I can't figure out what it is, but I'm having trouble.
Normally I can make any app work (even if its for PPC) by pulling the files off of a PPC installation, and run the .exe on my smartphone and it just works.
But I keep get errors about libraries not existing or being in the wrong place. I need to figure out exactly what happens when the app is installed- what files go where, any registry changes, etc... There's gotta be a way to make it work on smartphone!
From memory,
There are a few files and registry settings that I can remember but barely, but if you want I can try to install it again. I removed it because I don't use MP3s anymore..
Yeah, if you don't mind helping me out, that'd be amazing (also for the smartphone community as a whole).
Why don't u use mp3's anymore?
I can just look up the settings for you, you got to do the work ;-)...
I find them too large for my 1Gb MiniSD, using AAC+ now... nice quality and file size.
Just PM me what you want to know...
Well, I don't know what kind of entries this will place in the registry. To be honest, I'm not sure how to check myself either. Is there a way to tell EXACTLY what a .cab does?
Found it!
Interesting program for those in my situation:
http://thinkabdul.com/2006/12/20/ms...nformation-from-windows-mobile-cab-xml-files/
lets you see exactly what steps a cab installation goes through. Any reg. items, what the actual filenames are, what directories they are placed in, etc...
Amazing little tool.
However, I still haven't gotten blueplayer to work on my sp5... I wonder why?
thanks for the link, I needed something like that as well, going to compare the differences in the Widcomm bluetooth hacks...
BTW, how do you get blueplayer to work on a smartphone anyway without the touch screen?
Oh, simulating a touchscreen is easy... most apps let you navigate using the joystick, but it gets annoying and sometimes a touch is needed to click (for example an ok button).
There's a great little app call SPhelper that places a mouse pointer on your screen that can be navigated using the directional joystick, and "clicked" like a screen tap.
Its pretty cool.
Anyway, the problem is that I can't get Blueplayer to operate, even with all the .dll files in the right places. It says its missing something.
new2city said:
I can just look up the settings for you, you got to do the work ;-)...
I find them too large for my 1Gb MiniSD, using AAC+ now... nice quality and file size.
Just PM me what you want to know...
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Here's all I know:
I poked around in the .cab installation and found that there are 4 .dll's that go in the \windows dir (msibtstk.dll, msibtapi.dll, CHS.dll and TW.dll), and two .exe program files that go in program files\msi\blueplayer (STLoader.exe, and MPOBCE.exe). AFAIK, there don't seem to be any registry entries that it inserts.
Now, I've done this with PPC apps before, normally all I have to do is run the .exe after all files are in place, and it will work (obviously with some minor annoyances due to missing the touch screen).
However, every time I hit MPOBCE.exe, all I get is:
"Alert
Can't find MPOBCE or one of its components. Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all the required libraries are available."
There's gotta be something I'm overlooking... Anyone?
No man, there are some(I found some) entries, but I thought you were set and removed them already..
will reinstall and get back to you again...
BTW do you do a full backup of your phone? I use SPB backup and it is good..
oh, cool, I couldn't find any... let me know!
entries but not sure if working...
Here are the two registry inputs(rename to *.txt) I found on my system.. Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work this time as I am using Widcomm bluetooth stack... wonder why.... Last time I used this was with MS Stack on...
new2city said:
Here are the two registry inputs(rename to *.txt) I found on my system.. Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work this time as I am using Widcomm bluetooth stack... wonder why.... Last time I used this was with MS Stack on...
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No, that makes sense. The Nokia one is designed to operated by tunnelling through the s60 stack, and the WinCE version was most likely designed assuming the MS one.
No go... I entered all this stuff exactly like you said, and I get the same errors.
Interesting to note is the drivers reg keys already existed!
It appears that the other exe (stloader.exe) did run and I think entered those keys. The actual program tho, seems to not run (and therefore never entered the proper keys, I'm guessing).
Sorry man.. to get your hopes up..
Right now, I got Axim Widcomm Stack running on my Wizard, but still get the memory issue after a long time powering off bluetooth.
oh well, back to waiting and testing new stacks..
Hey, I've got another idea if you wouldn't mind helping me some more...
Could you try to manually install it the way I've been doing on your pocket PC device?
The reason I ask is because it will determine if there's some sort of PPC-specific code (which I don't think I've ever encountered or even heard of before).
I attached the files and directory structure that I extracted from the cab. If you could, please try uninstalling BluePlayer and tell me if you can get this to run by manually copying the files here.
If it doesn't work for you either, than its because my method is flawed and I'm missing something here... and I shouldn't give up yet!
ok, I will give it a go, but most probably I can only go as far as getting the program to run... Feel comfortable with the widcomm stack, don't feel like disabling it..
just give me a few hours.. my stupid SD USB card reader not working properly... got to look for my cable.. damn!!
good news is, the program starts with the exceptions
1)at first start after putting the files in place, the program starts a few times with the L2Cap error...
2)After a few failed restarts, followed by a softreset, the registry settings in drivers(L2Cap..) are in place and the program runs without error.
3)Now it's up to you to test it with MS stack bluetooth on, as I cannot confirmed this for you.. good luck buddy...
IMPORTANT
You MUST have an IPL and SPL at 2.xx or higher (BOTH not just one or the other).
The Phone NEEDS to be CID unlocked or it will not flash correcly
Well I have been keeping my Faria Base Rom to my self uptill now. But I have run out of ideas what I can do to it.
Well I have made my version that is is simple but has some very usful apps.
I would like to have 3-5 People test out for me and tell me what can be changed, if it is ok like I am thinking of maybe putting it out there for people to play with. But it all depends on the poeple that test it.
So my ROM is for someone that would like a FAST and stable rom that has just what is needed.
Rom version; 2.18.0.0
Build aku 15341 aku.4.0.0.01 WWE
Radio version recommended 2.19
Splash screen Funman v.1
31Mb Free Ram on boot
43Mb Free File space
Whats in the Rom :-
Apps (Program)
Total Commander 2.5PB2
dotFred TaskManager 2.7
Screen Capture
Pocket RAR 3.60
NotePad
Gotan (Like Bubble Breaker, but alittle longer)
Adobe Reader LE v.2.0
Windows Live Messager
Windows Live v.10.6.0026.1400
Live Search v.1.0.2592.31374 (Linked with Google setup, not Mircosoft)
Apps (Settings)
Check Notifications v.1.9
PIM Backup v.1.9.0.0
SMS Notifier v.1.2
SynchroTime v.0.94
HTC X-Button
Other
Comm manger 10 button is installed
Startclean
Bluetooth in Start Menu
Office folder taken from Start Menu to Programs
Added a default SMS MP3
Default Set to UK settings
Reg Hacks
Moved IE cashe to SD card
Scroll bars are thinner
System Sounds are turned off by defalut
Power Batt set to 5mins
Power External set to 5mins
Backlight set to 2nd lowest, batt 5mins turnoff, External 5mins turnoff
Cleartype on both port and lang
Text size to 2nd lowest
Taken out of the ROM
All Themes
All Wav, MP3, and any other useless media files (for Ringer, just place a mp3 in My Documents on your phone or in your card). Please note that you will see the 3 default, but these do not work
MMS items (Will be doing two ways, one with, one without) I don't have these in by default as when I sync I get them all.
Old Keyboard and replaced with mUn Keyboard Skin
Old PhonePad and replaced
SAP
SIMManger
Autoupdate
VoIP
Voicecommand
Transcriber
Java manager
With this Rom you should not have any problems with speed, It runs fast and when using BS it will run faster, but not really used it so dont know if your phone will smoke!!
Download link
Will come soon
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Closed for now!!! Need to look at something! Dont know when I will have the time to look at again!
Tester please complete below:-
Top 10 Good points of the Rom
Top 10 Bad points of the Rom
Apps found useful
Apps no use for
Volunteer
I volunteer... gladly... my basic requirements are working outlook and windows live... and windows media player... i don't need mms... lemme know if this suits your rom
Hey Funman!
Good job [email protected]@
Like to try it out during my transition to the new one build!
I'm ok and in the position....
Let me know if I can testify for ya!
Take care!
Hey funman your rom looks great.
I can test for you. Let me know.
Bye.
Rom looks Great... Def willing to test this puppy!!
Hey your roms looks great to me.
So I volunteer...
Downloading now will report back!!!
Thanks
suggestions
I have got 31mb free ram on boot.
It is quite fast.
Suggestion
What to ADD:
New office2k7
New HTCtask manager 1.5
Audio manager
Java manager
New Sim manager
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application)
What to remove:
Customer Feedback
Error repoting
(I think these two are the most unuseful thing.)
Thanks, and there is no extended rom, and if you plan one then move it windows folder for G4 support.
samy.3660 said:
I have got 31mb free ram on boot.
It is quite fast.
Suggestion
What to ADD:
New office2k7
New HTCtask manager 1.5
Audio manager
Java manager
New Sim manager
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application)
What to remove:
Customer Feedback
Error repoting
(I think these two are the most unuseful thing.)
Thanks, and there is no extended rom, and if you plan one then move it windows folder for G4 support.
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Java manager (Left out as my Rom is made for the person that like min but useful, and this is not useful!!!)
New Sim manager (Took out as pointless, as with pimbackup on the phone, you dont need to save your contacts tot he SIMcard)
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application) I left it ou as it is not need!!! But you do have the button mapping, but i would not use it for boasting the CPU
New office2k7 Thought about this, and i did put itin there, but took it out again as the new one does not give much yet, as 2007 is not so widly used for the lose of rom space!!!
New HTCtask manager 1.5 Well did not know of this update, so i guess i could add it Do you know what is better?
Well I did not add the extended rom for that reason!!! So maybe will have to put the MMS stuff back in to the ROM
I think its bricked...
It finished flashing... went off... n now it wont start back up again....
Removed the battery and put it back in... its come on now... whew!! it sure gave me a scare at that point...
love the splash screens....
here we go with the set up...
Customising now... will update one its done...
its fast for sure...
Lotsa stuff i dont need... t zones... tmobile customisation...
CPU usage stays low between 1 - 3%. Will update battery drain once it settles...
One can get rid of error reporting and autoupdate... both are useless tools for a custom ROM
Have always had a problem with memory leak and suspect its because of tmail.exe... i use a lot of mail... outlook, windows live and sms put together would easily be more than 200 a day... this seems to be leaking as well... am already down to 25mb within an hour but that culd be because its updating my outlook mail... havent set up windows live yet...
more updates will follow in the morning... my wife's gonna lock the room door from inside anytime now...:-/
rajivshastri said:
Lotsa stuff i dont need... t zones... tmobile customisation...
CPU usage stays low between 1 - 3%. Will update battery drain once it settles...
One can get rid of error reporting and autoupdate... both are useless tools for a custom ROM
Have always had a problem with memory leak and suspect its because of tmail.exe... i use a lot of mail... outlook, windows live and sms put together would easily be more than 200 a day... this seems to be leaking as well... am already down to 25mb within an hour but that culd be because its updating my outlook mail... havent set up windows live yet...
more updates will follow in the morning... my wife's gonna lock the room door from inside anytime now...:-/
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Ya the t-mobile stuff is just for this!!! If it gets lt out it will not have this!!! And t-zones is not in the rom!
Runs Great, But Phone Ringers Are Corrupted On My End Which Is No Biggy Man. T-Zones Dont Need To Be In There Cuz For Some Reason It No Longer Works Anymore. Might be the reason because T-Mobile Upgraded There New T-Zones For HTC Wing But Im Not Sure Just Know That When you Check Your Account It Wont let you. Another One you Should Add Musicplayer Today For Alittle Bonus And Add The new HTC Taskmanager Like Everyone Is Suggesting. Just So it Could Look Like A Stocked T-mobile Phone. I Love The Splash Screens. Really Fast But There Is A Battery Drain I Noticed But Might Be Because I have to let the battery drain first cuz I flashed. It Is At 50% And I dont have no push email, GPRS, Internet,Wifi, Or Bluetooth Running. I Would Hate To see when I Use Them It would Of Probably Already Been Dead! I Also havent Installed Any Program Either Everything Is Still Stocked. Also Recommend You Put Some Sort Of Battery Task On The Today Screen Like HTC HomePlug So You Can Check your Battery Life. But Pretty Much After That Runs Great Keep up The Good Job. I Will Still Monitor The Battery Situation More!
First view
Hey Funman!
Here it goes to my results...
Top 10 Good points of the Rom
I liked the way you cooked!.
Clean, simple and fast.
It really is and I still didn't have to overclock! Nice!
Got 43.40 of storage and 30.02 of program memory. Ok for me.
Good Customizations like text reduced and folders
Top 10 Bad points of the Rom
Customer feedback and Error reporting could be really removed as it really means nothing.
Phone settings seems to be not working properly. When I tried to change ring tone and clicked OK button, I got nothing. I still kept on that settings tab instead of back to today screen. I tried several times without luck. But I think is just a little thing coz you may get away from that just clicking on today icon and choose today itself.
Noticed duplicated task manager: programs\accessories\settings and in start\settings\system folder.
Apps found useful
Oxios
Windows Live and Search
Adobe Reader LE
Apps no use for
Check notifications.
SMS notifier. I like others like secretary mobile but it can be fine.
Total commander. I prefer Resco Explorer
Registry Editor. I prefer use Resco 2007 built in version
In an overall and as my first impression, I loved it! You did a very custom ROM without a lot of craps and just cooking basic and usefull apps. Good job.
I'll keep going little more now installing my apps. Let you know what happened after that!
Great day Funman!
Regards
funman said:
Java manager (Left out as my Rom is made for the person that like min but useful, and this is not useful!!!)
New Sim manager (Took out as pointless, as with pimbackup on the phone, you dont need to save your contacts tot he SIMcard)
And Smartskey(it is one of the most useful application) I left it ou as it is not need!!! But you do have the button mapping, but i would not use it for boasting the CPU
New office2k7 Thought about this, and i did put itin there, but took it out again as the new one does not give much yet, as 2007 is not so widly used for the lose of rom space!!!
New HTCtask manager 1.5 Well did not know of this update, so i guess i could add it Do you know what is better?
Well I did not add the extended rom for that reason!!! So maybe will have to put the MMS stuff back in to the ROM
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OK
But Java manager is useful as sim manager, not at the time but may be required in future coz there will be programs that will require java and same for Sim manager. But this is your choice, im just trying to make your rom perfect and complete.
And for new X button go here
im using it and it is very good no bugs.
And office2k7 is also essential coz there are new format (for eg: docx) which will run on new word only.
And yes there are two shortcut of taskmanager(dotfred), one is in programs/accessories/settings and other in settings/system.
Thanks
LiQuiD FrEeZe said:
Runs Great, But Phone Ringers Are Corrupted On My End Which Is No Biggy Man. T-Zones Dont Need To Be In There Cuz For Some Reason It No Longer Works Anymore. Might be the reason because T-Mobile Upgraded There New T-Zones For HTC Wing But Im Not Sure Just Know That When you Check Your Account It Wont let you. Another One you Should Add Musicplayer Today For Alittle Bonus And Add The new HTC Taskmanager Like Everyone Is Suggesting. Just So it Could Look Like A Stocked T-mobile Phone. I Love The Splash Screens. Really Fast But There Is A Battery Drain I Noticed But Might Be Because I have to let the battery drain first cuz I flashed. It Is At 50% And I dont have no push email, GPRS, Internet,Wifi, Or Bluetooth Running. I Would Hate To see when I Use Them It would Of Probably Already Been Dead! I Also havent Installed Any Program Either Everything Is Still Stocked. Also Recommend You Put Some Sort Of Battery Task On The Today Screen Like HTC HomePlug So You Can Check your Battery Life. But Pretty Much After That Runs Great Keep up The Good Job. I Will Still Monitor The Battery Situation More!
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Where you heck are you seeing t-zones? IT is not in the rom!!! I have this running on my phone right now!!!
-No T-Zones,
-No Ring tones as I said above (just place a ring tone on your card in my documnets)
-Do you have a extended rom installed, as this is your problem with the batt drain!
I think i need to pull the rom and look at a coup-le of things, cus you should not be seeing t-zones for one thing! And i might move the extention to windows folder then you dont have the batt drain problem!
p.s Task manger is there two times out of design!
update: Ok I see why you had the problems with the ring tone!!! Cus you have not put a MP3 in your my documnet folder!!! The OS has put the default ones in but there are not in the rom!!! It must be a reg key or some thing I will look into getting rid! Well i looked at the ringtoens and i think the 3 defaults must be hard coded as i have not been able to find any reg keys that go with them.
epimazzo said:
Hey Funman!
Here it goes to my results...
Top 10 Good points of the Rom
I liked the way you cooked!.
Clean, simple and fast.
It really is and I still didn't have to overclock! Nice!
Got 43.40 of storage and 30.02 of program memory. Ok for me.
Good Customizations like text reduced and folders
Top 10 Bad points of the Rom
Customer feedback and Error reporting could be really removed as it really means nothing.
Phone settings seems to be not working properly. When I tried to change ring tone and clicked OK button, I got nothing. I still kept on that settings tab instead of back to today screen. I tried several times without luck. But I think is just a little thing coz you may get away from that just clicking on today icon and choose today itself.
Noticed duplicated task manager: programs\accessories\settings and in start\settings\system folder.
Apps found useful
Oxios
Windows Live and Search
Adobe Reader LE
Apps no use for
Check notifications.
SMS notifier. I like others like secretary mobile but it can be fine.
Total commander. I prefer Resco Explorer
Registry Editor. I prefer use Resco 2007 built in version
In an overall and as my first impression, I loved it! You did a very custom ROM without a lot of craps and just cooking basic and usefull apps. Good job.
I'll keep going little more now installing my apps. Let you know what happened after that!
Great day Funman!
Regards
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Oxios ? Ok i cant remeber what this is?
Please can you give me screen shots of T-zones then i can see where you are seeing it!
Okay last night i flashed my Wizard.
This weekend we have Whitsunday festival overhere.
So give me sometime to test your rom.
I will post my findings tommorrow.
I wanted to get a thread dedicated to getting the applications out of the Touch .nb, and into the Wizard - and specifically the "cube" and "touch" functionality that is the trademark of the new phone.
Please save "oh, I'd like" or "oh, wow" stuff for other threads - this is a dev discussion.
Criteria: Working discussions on what's been done, what are we doing, and what could be done to get the excellent new features to work.
I hope that by sharing information - we can key in on the results much faster then everyone working on their own.
Software Packages
This post is a running list of applications, and their status:
Application............. .Status:
HTC Camera ............. .???
MediaHubMini ............. .???
QuickDial ............. .???
Streaming Media ............. .???
Streaming Player ............. .???
Cube ............. .French rom working, no WWE yet
Dialer Pad ............. .Done
Comm Manager ............. .Done
Today Home Theme ............. .Done
If someone can PM me who's current on this thread, I'll update the remaining items.
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Kickoff Status
Here's what I've tried so far:
Using the 1413 as a base, I've taken and replaced the OEM folders from the touch build and replaced the 1413 folders -completly. This resulted in the phone self power cycling at the 3rd splash screen.
I've also taken the entire touch build, replaced the ROM contents with the one from 1413 (and I might have replaced the /SYS/OS folder as well - going off memory). This was the most successful, as I was able to boot the phone and get a lot of the touch's functionality. Issues were: SID Lock error, no "touch" function, and button mapping was wrong - only button 1 showed up on settings - buttons.
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Well, to follow up on my note in the other thread. I did pretty much what you did and ended up in the same place.
I did discover that the two other "raw" files in the original leak contained xip contents. I'm not sure why there are two of them, and they contain similar contents. I ran a build using the one I've labeled xip1 and it gave an error about missing build.rgu in buildos. I then ran a build using the one I labeled xip here (which has a build.rgu) and it built and booted, but worked essentially the same as when using an older wizard xip.
Anyway, time for bed now.
PS I tried to upload a zip of the two xip sections but it failed. Forum maintenance I suppose. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow if anyone seems interested.
Edit: Tried again to upload, failed.
I think we should start by the Dial Pad... I think it will be the easy thing to do.
Check this Hermes Rom:
http://wmblack.info/
and this:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-support/9792-released-black-iv-shadow.html
Why not port the entire ROM ?
Just a thought.
BTW, from what I know, in order to make it work, you will have to use the XIP from the Wizard, not the one from Touch.
I have some work now...but i will try and do that bit later...today or tomorrow.
anichillus said:
Why not port the entire ROM ?
Just a thought.
BTW, from what I know, in order to make it work, you will have to use the XIP from the Wizard, not the one from Touch.
I have some work now...but i will try and do that bit later...today or tomorrow.
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I also thought this... But now we have an official build from ms... I think it is a bit more stable than a ported version (if i'm wrong, please correct me).
@joaosousa:
I tried to port the Dialpad yesterday... But it seemed that I missed some needed files/registry hacks.... Still trying.
Vi
I also think we should keep the official build from ms... It's very stable...
any luck with touch dialer skin?
In all seriousness... the Today plug-ins for the HTC touch are fricking ugly.
Anything new in here?
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Anything new in here?
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Ya... I just flashed my wizard... Without the correct XIP partition -> stuck at 87% but bootloader works... so i think i'll get my wizard back
vi
omg... Hope all goes right with your wizard...
For those who want to play...
OK, for those who want to play with the Touch Rom, here's a rapidshare link to download a "working" nk.nbf. I've also included total commander, and a registry editor for those who might want to tinker with getting things to work.
The main issues are these:
1) Pull the sim card before flashing, or you won't be able to to get to the today screen.
2) Since the elf is only a one button machine, most of the buttons do nothing, including the power button. You'll have to take out the battery to turn it off. (Unless you can figure out the registry changes needed to make it work.)
3) Don't worry about setting your timezone in the initial screen. You can set it later from the settings menu.
4) Be ready to flash back from bootloader mode when you're done exploring!
5) I pulled adobe acrobat, catalog, autoupdate. Everything else is pretty much stock. So you can get a feel for what's included, and what you might want to pull for use in the Wizard!
This is OS only.
Have fun!
Rapidshare Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/36574080/TouchROM-nk.nbf.rar
Here's a question to those who have tried it so far: has anyone seen it working, or know which application controls the 'cube' function? Is it the biotouch app?
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OK, for those who want to play with the Touch Rom, here's a rapidshare link to download a "working" nk.nbf. I've also included total commander, and a registry editor for those who might want to tinker with getting things to work.
The main issues are these:
1) Pull the sim card before flashing, or you won't be able to to get to the today screen.
2) Since the elf is only a one button machine, most of the buttons do nothing, including the power button. You'll have to take out the battery to turn it off. (Unless you can figure out the registry changes needed to make it work.)
3) Don't worry about setting your timezone in the initial screen. You can set it later from the settings menu.
4) Be ready to flash back from bootloader mode when you're done exploring!
5) I pulled adobe acrobat, catalog, autoupdate. Everything else is pretty much stock. So you can get a feel for what's included, and what you might want to pull for use in the Wizard!
This is OS only.
Have fun!
Rapidshare Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/36574080/TouchROM-nk.nbf.rar
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what do you mean of working nbf, did you mean it is Touch fully rom, or mixed with wizard rom??
anichillus said:
Why not port the entire ROM ?
Just a thought.
BTW, from what I know, in order to make it work, you will have to use the XIP from the Wizard, not the one from Touch.
I have some work now...but i will try and do that bit later...today or tomorrow.
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Yes, understood. I think the fact that it works just as well with either XIP just shows how similar the two machines actually are. Either that, or whoever "leaked" the rom included an appropriate XIP on purpose.
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what do you mean of working nbf, did you mean it is Touch fully rom, or mixed with wizard rom??
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Fully Touch Rom. But it has been restructured to fit inside the partition settings of the Wizard.
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Here's a question to those who have tried it so far: has anyone seen it working, or know which application controls the 'cube' function? Is it the biotouch app?
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For me it didn't work. Did you notice a kind of "klick" every 2 - 5 seconds? it sounds like if the speaker are turnend on and off...
Vi
its right said:
what do you mean of working nbf, did you mean it is Touch fully rom, or mixed with wizard rom??
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The SYS and OEM folders from Touch, the ROM folder from 1413 (going off assumption here - correct me if I'm wrong )
Ok this question has been asked here 1000s of times but f*** it i search through this board so much as it is i dont have time to read 20pages of 50 replies 20 pages there of replies.... what i am looking for is either a clean rom like *lite* without iContact i hate that f'ing program as my default contact with over 400 contacts it takes 3x as long to load as default does. it would be awesome to have it just as a program so i can quick dial. but not that or any other tl omnia manilla spb home screen if i could id have the home screen blank and use batterstat or now home plus as my screen.
i really loved OTP 3.0 but the graphics on the newer ones are awesome but they all come with some sort of spb or tl or other thing like iContacts also it is quit a bit slower than that last OTP i was using and that was 6.5 spb.
i love having 45 program free on ot 7.7 but something about the speed and the way it run is horrible on my refurb wing oc'd to a max of 234 and still get minor shakes. dont get me wrong awesome work ttran but it just isnt for my tastes.
Asergs roms i love but i hate having to install dupurdes kb fix i use a program called WKtask and it shows up in the menu bar. Also countless times i have had troubles with a few minor features. but looks appealing with the graphics.
In the next day or two i hope to flash my wing with somewhere around 40mb program free and keep almost all on the Card including programs such as wktask, Qmenu, mobiion ppc, office+1note, googlemaps and ygo
Any of my ROMs. For example, JustMe can get you up to 70MB FREE of storage.
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Any of my ROMs. For example, JustMe can get you up to 70MB FREE of storage.
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Indeed. Easily the best rom i have used so far.
Wish I knew how to modify ROMs because there are some modifications i would like to make.... hehe.
I also use JustMe and love it!
I have been following just me and it seems like it is a winner however.... the topics cross paths of all the different products all in one etc where to start i have been reading for quite awhile. Ok i downloaded Justme.7z and easylzx.7z ok those are the file i only need to create the rom right i have a super old kitchen from you but dont know where it is. Now in the post i saw another user ask about newer and updated versions of the sources to cook the files into your own rom could you point me in the right direction with the file with those 100 or so sources u said? off the top of my head you said you had quickmenu,homeplus but with no themes ? also office and pxshut hmm few more from the professional such as adobepdf and paint found in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2792546&postcount=4 on the professional version
I know to get the bests from each rom i will have to get them out of the rom persay i like Ttrans graphics from 2 diff roms so say i like the dialer in the otp rom i just used and the comm manager etc i need to figure out how to get those files then in the current rom i like the loading screens and add contact menu graphics so i need to get those.
This goes to all the cooks its not easy to please all people i know and since people need to cater to the many and not the few please understand your work is great but some people like differnt things and keep up the great work
Edit didnt work. But what i also asked is there a quick easy file say .xml or such i can open up in my html editor and look and see what all files i will need to grab? because obviously you cant just changes the graphics out as each dialer is skinned diff.
for instance in BS aka HP i open up the themes and can easily modify the say clock digits because it tells me the file locations as well as what is placed where and calls what function.
cant someone quick post these files for the ones u need for say the dialer,commgr, add contacts
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Edit didnt work. But what i also asked is there a quick easy file say .xml or such i can open up in my html editor and look and see what all files i will need to grab? because obviously you cant just changes the graphics out as each dialer is skinned diff.
for instance in BS aka HP i open up the themes and can easily modify the say clock digits because it tells me the file locations as well as what is placed where and calls what function.
cant someone quick post these files for the ones u need for say the dialer,commgr, add contacts
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It's not that simple with a ROM. If you can get the cook's ROM files before they're cooked, then the process is pretty simple, but it's almost impossible once the ROM has been cooked. Either way, you're modifying Registry keys as well as files in order to do anything in the ROM.
Hello,
I am a new AT&T Fuze owner and new in general to Windows Mobile "Professional". (Had a Symbian 60 Device Previously) I have been doing extensive reading and researching to figure out how to accomplish my goals but I keep running into dead ends. I have been searching forums and Google but I find that most information is formatted for people that have been in the community for a long time and understand all of the jargon. There seems to be so many flavors of windows and platforms that it makes my head spin and I also find that words like Smartphone, Pocket PC, Window CE, etc.. are thrown around very loosely.
Sorry for the preamble. Here is what I know so far.
Device = AT&T Fuze
CE OS 5.2.19971 (Build 19971.1.2.6)
CID = HTC_P4600 (Not listed in the WIKI here)
ROM = 1.95.502..5 WWE (10/20/08)
Radio = 1.02.25.32
Protocol = 52.39c.25.22h
First I was wondering if there was a positive way of knowing if a certain piece of software will work with my device and what that spec would be. Like does it go by windows version, phone version, both? Or at least some general rules of thumb what to take note of before trying a piece of software. (If it was designed for or works on other flavors of Raphael is it safe to try?)
My biggest problem at the moment is I can't seem to install anything anymore. I am getting a message about unsigned cabs or files missing. I'm hoping this wasn't something I did but it's a possibility. Some software "PPCPimBackup.exe" will still install but most won't like "Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab". I even tried to make a simple .cab using CeRegEditor to adjust the city string for the weather tab in TF3D. Any help here would be most appreciated. I am very weary of all these so called "unlockers" out there and even read a thread here where someone bricked their device by installing the wrong software for the device.
Is the Fuze the same as the Diamond? (They look identical)
What is the preferred way to back up the entire device or is it even possible with standard software? Most of what I found backs up PIM info.
When a program (Taskmanager 3.1) says to minimize, where does it go? How do you bring it back to the foreground or do you have to install a taskbar manager?
I actually have more I want to ask but that probably wouldn't be prudent. I think if I could help myself better once I understand what software I can and can't use with my phone.
Many thanks in advance and apologize for noobing up your forum =P
Eidolen
I'll try to answer some of your questions.
1) Normally, software will say windows mobile 5 or 6 as a requirement along with maybe .Net Framework. If it's for Windows Mobile most likely it'll work. Just have to try it and see.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
3) The Fuze is similar to the Diamond but don't go trying to install ROMs that are made for the Diamond. Use the ones in the Raphael forums.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Wow,
Thanks you for the quick and non condescending reply. I've been surfing more since I posted and hopefully I could get you to elaborate on a few things.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
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I did the .Net install and it went without a hitch but still no joy. I noticed on the authors support forums that others are having the same problem but no clear solution has been posted. /Sigh
I was thinking I needed to follow a procedure similar to the one listed here where you have to install a certificate and make some policy changes in the registry but since I can't find any info specifically for the Fuze I haven't done anything yet other than download the certificate that was linked in that post.
I should mention I am not a complete computer illiterate, and am fully comfortable with the registry and even more advanced techniques if necessary. I should also mention that I don't plan on replacing my rom at all. Just want to keep it to basic reg hacks, software installs, and some theming once I get things working the way I want.
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
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Thanks, I will check this out. Sounds like exactly what I was looking for.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
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I understand what you said but what I was trying to figure out is how to recall it from the background. It doesn't show up in the TF3D task list when it's minimized so I was wondering if you had to click on the task bar or do some certain trick to bring it to the fore-front. The ability to move between programs easily is my biggest gripe so far as I seem to have to open and close the keyboard, hit home or back a lot to move around. I would love the ability to hit some hot key or some secret spot on the screen to launch taskmanager and then I could use it to go to whatever program I wanted.
I have seen a few bugs in TM_3.1 that cause crashes, but it is an awesome program and hopefully the developer will keep working out the bugs. If there is another program you would recommend that accomplished the same type of functionality I'd be interested in trying it out.
Thanks again for your friendly help.
Eidolen
Just looked at the contents of that cab referenced from that link I posted. It is just a Setup.xml file with the following contents.
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="SecurityPolicy">
<parm name="4119" value="144"/>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
Any thoughts?
As for .Net, the following is from Modaco, and I found that it worked like a charm:
How to install and use .NET Compact Framework 3.5
If you're a developer or have knowledge of .net Compact Framework, you'll be aware that version 3.5 has shipped. You'll be aware that it offers a number of enhancements in features, stability and performance, and you'll likely also know that it provides full backwards compatability with previous versions of the Compact Framework. What you may NOT know is that when CF 3.5 is installed on a device, applications that target previous versions of the Compact Framework will continue to run against the old versions, and 3.5 and previous versions will live side by side on the device. Only when new devices come along will we see ONLY 3.5 on a device.
This presents a number of problems, namely
• Users who deploy CF 3.5 to their device but use applications targeting older versions will not benefit from the 3.5 performance improvements
• Developers who develop apps for pre CF 3.5 frameworks cannot easily test their applications ready for when 3.5 only devices come along
Thankfully, help is at hand in the form of a little known Compact Framework 3.5 powertoy named '.Net Configuration'. The application, which is available at Microsoft, provides the user with full granularity of control over the .net CF on their device. You can see installed versions, change the used CF version for a particular application or change the used CF version for all applications run on your device! Perfect!
Sadly in Microsoft's infinite wisdom the application in question is tucked away in simple EXE inside the 6.2MB download and somewhat hard to find, so i've taken the liberty of packaging it up into a CAB here that installs it with it's own Start Menu shortcut.
- Run '.Net Configuration' from your Start Menu
- Navigate to the 'Device Policy' tab and select version 3.5
- Select 'Apply' then 'OK'
That's it, you're done!
Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
As I've stated I have not made any attempts to unlock anything yet but have installed some software and made some registry tweaks. I wish I could see what exactly is happening like Procmon does for windows to pinpoint the problem, but I might just have to resort to a hard reset if I can't figure it out.
I'm open to any ideas but if I don't figure it out tonight I guess I'll reset tomorrow. Thanks for the guidance and help.
Cheers,
Eidolen
@eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.
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Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
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I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
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You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....
eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.
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I ordered my SD card yesterday =/ Hopefully be here soon. Still very interested in the 101 though!
You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....
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Yeah I gave that a shot but no joy. That wasn't the only reg hack I did but the only relating to "Unlocking". I haven't touched anything I wasn't pretty sure about. For instance I have looked at all the tweaks for speeding up the TF3D using cache setting but the numbers don't match so I never tried it. If I didn't understand what the tweak was I stayed away.
I did the PTT button tweak for voice/camera and played around with the cities for the weather app. Other than that I can't think of anything else I touched in the registry but I did a lot of looking.
On the other hand I have installed a good bit of software to try out. I have also rearranged my menu items by deleting shortcuts in the start menu folder. Even though I've done a good bit to the phone I think it might be best to start from scratch with a hard reset and start again with the knowledge I've gained in the past few days. My Opera browser has been getting a real workout with 40+ tabs going =P
I did find another thread here that has someone with a similar problem but the way it happened was entirely different. His fix was to wipe the phone and use the same software I was trying to install when I found this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3038792#post3038792
I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
I can't believe how helpful everyone's been so far considering this is a developers board. I figured it was worth the risk to get chewed in the hopes of getting the best advice. With all the info surfing I've been doing it's clear that this is the site where it all happens.
Cheers and thanks again,
Eidolen
OMG!
I'm almost too afraid to admit it but at least I feel good that I figured it out on my own. I was smart enough to make a backup of the registry with CeRedEditor before doing anything major and remembered it had a compare feature. After loading it up It immediately occurred to me to look at HKCR\cabfile and that's where I found my answer.
I had downloaded a little free utility from SKTools called Cabinstaller that allows you to choose where programs get installed. Somehow the registry entry it made didn't correctly point to the executable. In any case I think I installed it late the other night and forgot about it because the exe files I installed after that installed fine. I should have tested it immediately and I wouldn't have had this problem. /sigh
Thank you everyone for the help and ideas and even though I've fixed this problem I still might do a full reset and start from scratch now that I got all mentally prepared to do it and start over feeling a little more confident in what I'm doing.
While it's on my mind right now and since I never got a solution for the question in my first post, is there a hack or small little program that will allow you to put a shortcut in either the top bar where the start menu is or in the bottom where the shortcut for the on screen keyboard is so I can invoke the Task Manager easily to help with navigating? I wouldn't even be opposed to a shortcut in the TF3D pop-up you get when clicking on the top right bar. It would be great if this could be done with a bloated program but not opposed to it if the program is useful.
Thanks again everyone. I guess I'll start a new post for any new questions. (I have lots but will try and figure out as much as I can by myself first.)
Cheers,
Eidolen
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I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
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I think you're probably right about starting again from scratch. It would probably be less work than tracking down what's causing your problem and then you'll be starting with a cleaner slate for installing everything going forward.
There are a few different threads on here about what constitutes "must have" apps for the Fuze and the one thing I can say is that no two people agree on the list! Your best bet is to seach out those threads and see which ones you think would be most useful to you. A great place to get started is at http://www.blownfuze.org using username and password 'xda' (without the quotes)
My suggestions for the generic must haves are:
Total Commander
PHM Registry Editor (or whichever reg editor you prefer)
Diamond Tweak
Diamond TF3D Config
Other basic programs that might be worth checking out depending on what you do on your fuze are:
PocketShield or S2U2 for locking the phone
TCPMP Core Media Player
TorchButton for using the LED flash as a flashlight
BeyondPod or pRSS Reader for RSS feeds and podcasts
GoogleMaps and/or Live Search
Good luck!
Sprite backup is included in your Fuze as original software. I always keep a full backup copy on my Sd card of a good clean WM 6.1 install with all the must have tweaks done already. You will find it saves alot of headaches when you mess something up trying things out. After that I do a weekly backup as I add more and more stuff over time.
does diamond TF3D Config or diamond tweak work with this ROM version?
Thanks yzf750, I am preparing to do just that. I am getting prepared for a hard reset now once I notate what I want to keep that's on my phone already. Hopefully I can get it set up by the time my SD card arrives this coming week and can do the backup to it for keeps.
I read a blog post about doing a soft reset after a hard reset to prevent the ATT software from installing and I think I really want to try that. I just need to make sure I install the stuff I want to keep like TF3D manually afterwards. I'm hoping to find a more detailed guide for the procedure than what was posted though.
I'll post back and report if the smoke genie escapes or not.
Eidolen
some n00b guidance
Ok so i have been looking at these forums for a few days now doing homework before i even get the phone(its ordered). So my questions are
1. if i have AT&T unlock the phone(i know someone who works there so i hope they can help out) do i still need to do the hardspl to change radios etc?
2. Whats really the difference between all these roms built by users and just using BuildOS(im assuming this works on GSM phones and not just CDMA because its from PPC) to build your own ROM? and do most of these tweeks come prebuilt into these roms or do u still need to to other stuff? i.e reg tweaks etc, like i think it would be better for me to just build a rom with BuildOS with the apps i want etc and not keep flashing all the time
3. Is GPS still a problem for people?, i think ill just use tomtom or garmin and hope for the best as its not a huge concern. After looking around i guess its just a matter of finding the radio that works best for the individual, so anyone in the .US new england area have any recommendations of the best radio in the northeast like NYC area?
4. whats a good order to do this stuff?, i plan on using the phone for a couple days or so as stock just to get the general feel of the OS in general. then prolly flash the ROM with a custom BuildOS ROM(unless someone can provide the difference between BuildOS and say PROven ROM), then do w.e else needs to be done. ive seen the recommeded tweaks, just not sure if they still need to be done with a flashed ROM. not really looking for a game phone more office apps like RDP and irc etc, sys admin tools
Basically i think theres just a ton of info on here which is a good thing but im just getting started on Winmo although flashing etc dosent intimidate me so im eager to get started just a little unclear on some things and cant seem to find the answer just surfing, so any help or links to some stuff i might have missed is appreciated. Pretty much just want a smooth runnin ROM thats not stock of course, decent gps reception and the apps i want. thanks all
Look here, I made a little write-up for the basics using a stock ATT ROM. I ran this routine actually twice on my phone (ROM flashing junkie) so it should be fairly complete.
I have to note that, in most cases at least, I know what I do and can "recover" from a ROM flash within ~ 30 minutes, having all software, tweaks and contacts restored.
Regarding ROMs
That's an open can of worms with two next to it waiting. Read the threads and read the problems and decide later if you want to flash or not. If you are not used to WinMo phones it's perhaps better to hold back a week or two.
Some ROMs are built from original Raphael builts others are based on WinMo 6.1 but contain partially applications and tweaks from other HTC devices. The latest build # need not to be the best. For example RRE's ROM is based on the original ATT ROM and he created a really nice good performing ROM while other Chefs rip out first all guts and basics of a ROM (making it "naked") adding features and programs later. That's a more or less political discussion what's better and what's not and you have to decide yourself based on what you read and/or experience. For MY part I know Monx/HT from the Tilt times and always appreciated his work and speedy ROMs and he continued the same line on the Raphael/Fuze though it took him some time to come where he is right now.
As said all political in that regards, almost all ROMs out there ARE GOOD and have advantages in the one or the other area.
Tweaks
Yes the tweaks work even for a stock ATT ROM with ATT's TouchFlo/Manila (though I think it's plain ugly).
GPS
Again a difficult subject. For example the stock GPS (enabled or disabled assisted GPS settings) works kinda well with google maps BUT doesn't perform as expected with 3rd party GPS apps (TomTom, iGO). Keep in mind a lot came from other devices and for example iGO on the Tilt rocked down to the street number with no lag at all where the Fuze is doing more "guesstimating" than performing (compared to the Tilt).
Backup
Do a PIM backup once or twice a week and do a FULL backup once a week or if you installed new software after you confirm that you like it. If you wreck your phone for whatever reason AND you stay with the SAME ROM a full restore will work.
Just Wow!
That's an impressive piece of work there. I haven't stopped reading or poking around while I'm waiting for my SD card to get here and had quite some experience today. I did read the thread regarding doing a "Non-Bloat" Install and actually started to do it but stopped when I realized there still seems to be some residual bugs to the process. I figured for now even with the little bit of confidence I've gained I'd wait on that a little longer.
I did jot some info down while it was still "Bloat-Free" for anyone interested:
Bloatfree Services:
App Service APP1:
USSD APP8:
Push to Talk PTT0:
EnlargeStartMenuEMX0:
HTC IMS service IMS0:
STK Service AP15:
LargeTitleBar AP21:
HtcServices HSV2:
Keypad KBD1:
Bluetooth Audio Gateway BAG0:
Software Disable Dialog Service SDD0:
Sync Bluetooth Server ASV0:
Software Management Service SWM0:
Certificate Enroll Engine CES0:
SNApi SNA0:
DPT DPY0:
LAS LAS0:
Credential Manager CRD0:
Notify NFY0:
OBEX OBX0:
Bluetooth HID Loader BHL0:
SqmUpload SQM0:
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Bloatfree Processes:
NK.exe
RegistryCSPTool.exe
OperaPreL.exe
poutlook.exe
sapsettings.exe
opera9.exe
htcimssvc.exe
tmail.exe
cecmd.exe <--Total Commander
conmgr.exe
TaskMgr.exe <--duh
rapiclnt.exe
repllog.exe <--activesync
biotouch.exe
shell32.exe
QuickGPS.exe
VoiceCMD.exe
SIPGT_app.exe
services.exe
filesys.exe
gwes.exe
manilla.exe
device.exe
cprog.exe
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I forgot to check the memory and storage readings sadly but I figured this list could be checked against the full bloat version to see what processes and services could be killed. I figured I'd play with a full working install so if anything didn't work I would know it was from myself or software I installed instead of guessing if it was a side effect of the no bloat process. Also I could learn what the bloat was and strip it away.
Once I decided on Bloat I started a Log/Diary of everything I did for my own reference and thought it might be useful for troubleshooting later. Everything was going smooth until I decided to take on the behemoth named RealVGA.
Luckily I made a full Sprite backup previous to playing with it and am reinstalling that backup as I write this.
If there is one piece of advice I could give from the little knowledge I've gained so far is that most of the upper-end hacks/tweaks software that is available are living breathing complex entities and are not to be taken lightly. Each one needs to be thoroughly researched and understood before using unless you have an older device that has been supported for a long time. I find very little information on using most software regarding the Fuze even though it is very similar to other devices. Truth is, it is not identical which can make things hairy at times. Anyway the more you fail, the more you learn.
For other Fuze owners out there I'll post my personal log so you have an idea what programs I had trouble with and what I tried to do to resolve them. For sure I had huge problems with RealVGA as well as PocketCM and PocketCm Keyboard. It's a shame too as they all are outstanding upgrades.
Well I think I'll be ready for your tutorial when my card gets here so I will be sure to report back to let you know how it went. I already learned a lot just from reading it. For one I didn't know you could do anything over usb if you cancelled the ActiveSync. I just used that trick while restoring my phone and still haven't done a sync. I'm sure that guide will be a huge help to many like myself.
Huge Thanks!
Eidolen
PHP:
Diary of a Blown Fuze (Blown Attempt that is)
Just a stream of consisnous, sorry if some doesn't make sense
Log got more vebose as I went.
"Fresh Bloated Install"
Boot
Set Weather City
Configure WiFi
Calibrate G-Sensor
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Memory:
Storage======Program
Total 294.53 || Total 200.99
In Use 74.05 || In Use 70.93
Free 220.48 || Free 130.06
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Turn off Auto Backlight - Adjusted Settings
Removed Programs - I Play Jewel
Configured all settings under "All Settings" tab
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Having keyboard problems where it is unresponsive. Had to use on-screen KB
to write user information. Also had KB lag a few times afterwards but not
as severe.
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SYNC (Merged 89 file items)
Install NETCFSetupv35.msi
Install netcfcfg.cab
Install tcmdpocketarm.cab
Configured .Net to use 3.5
Installed Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab
Create Sprite Backup "Fresh Install" ACT3.3 not config yet
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Phone supplied Sprite backup software reported "backing up 85mb" but when finished
the file is only 144kb! Not sure what happened. Will try to initiate
a backup from the desktop software.
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Initiated Full Desktop Version backup "Fresh Install 2 FULL" 93.03M
Ended with file size of 60.3M
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Configure Advanced Config Tool:
User Interface ->
Horizontal Icon Spacing: 150
Vertical Icon Spacing: 140
Icon title font size: 8
Popup Menu Font Size: 800
Power Management ->
All either default or "Advised" setting if applicable
Screen ->
Show Orientation: Yes (default)
Keyboard Backlight Timeout: 15sec
Suggested Words: 3
Network ->
Device friendly Name: #####
Phone ->
Show All Call History: Yes
Call History Clean: Never
Show Battery Icon: Yes
Show Band: Yes
Bluetooth ->
BT Device Name: #####
GPS ->
Logfile Size: 32K
Internet Explorer ->
4 Way Navigation: Disabled
Clear Type: Enabled
Search Page: Google
Max Connections Per Server: 8
Messaging ->
SMS Delivery Notification: Yes
Use Unicode Support: Yes
Symc Sent Items: Yes
Show Roaming: Yes
Calendar ->
Show Lunar: Yes
Show Events in Week View: Yes
Camera ->
Capture Key Delay: Enabled
Key Delay: Enabled
HTC Animation ->
Volume: 90
HTC Camera Album ->
OK Button: Close
Misc:
Auto Daylight Savings Switch: Yes
Show Daylight Savings Notification: Yes
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Noticed lots of options missing from last time I used this program before the hard reset like more font sizes among other things>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Sprite Resore "PIM_2008-12-13.exe" PIM info Only
Contacts Restored but no TF3D settings were retained
(No contacts in TF3D, Messages, etc..)
Set up both email accounts
Set Up online AB LDAP
Adjusted Camera Settings
Copied My Pictures,Notes, Ringtones, PTT shortcuts and other "Files" back to device using Sprite Explorer File=2008-12-14.exe
Extracted "Browser Favorites" From Sprite Explorer /System Settings 2008-12-14.exe
Hand Edit Opera.ini
Transferred Some opera files (wand.dat, cookies, images) using Sprite Explorer 2008-12-14.exe
Transferred a pantload of s/w to be installed
Installed Diamond_TF3D_Config_Setup_v0.6.7.cab
(Made speed adjustments and removed Worldcard and "Unknown" TAB. Also "Unlocked" Noticed program launcher shows a ton of empty entries.)
Install ResPack128dpi.ARM.CAB
Install ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB
(Sprite backup crashed on reboot from ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB)
InstallRealVGA_11.CAB
Install missing ipxxx.dll's and screen went black then rebooted
**** my Pants *chant* no-brick no-brick no-brick
Watched it reboot. Something crashed but then TF3D loaded with tiny fonts!! (128dpi)
Modified Menu Icon spacing for 4 in a row. (Want to tweak further if I keep RealVGA)
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HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\
Add New Key "IconConfig"
In there Add DWORD Value:
"HorizontalIconSpacing" Dec value="112"
"VerticalIconSpacing" Dec value="115"
"IconTitleFontSize" Dec value="6"
==================================================================================
Notice a small black band on TF3D screens at the bottom. Acts as part of the tabs
Total commander toggle icon bar does not fully open up.
Contact all people link does not work
Contacts from Start Menu does not Work
Phone does not work
Installed respack96outlookfix.cab and Changed to 96 DPI now contacts and phone works!!
Adding Contacts in TF3D very buggy, auto puts in a picture somehow and have to go back and change it.
NVM...It selects the pics I had assigned before the reset somehow. Cool!
On Screen Keyboards Very Borked (Only Partially Visiable) Trying PocketCM Keyboard for VGA *Crosses Fingers*
It works but no colors, just plain Gray *humph!*
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Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 25
V Scroll Width: 25
H Arrow Size: 32
V Arrow Size: 32
Icon Title Font Size: 16 (Was 6)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
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Reset
Home TF3D Screen buggy, Tabs at bottom are doubled up. Clears when used to scroll but large black bar at bottom now
Wow! TF3D Communtications screen is really toast! It shows in upper left screen and at least it works but it's almost unreadable.
Not noticing any change in fonts so far
"All Settings" Won't Launch. Ouch!
Umm, System Locked up hard
Tried sliding keyboard and heard sound and title bars appreared but no luck, home and back not work either
It let me reboot with switch at least, not reset button
Tried Unticking "Disable Skin" in RealVGA
Reboot
"All Settings" Still Borked
reboot
Start Menu -> settings locks up too *cry*
Reboot!
Maybe result of font settings in ACT?
Might be time to do a restore =(
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Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 19
V Scroll Width: 19
H Arrow Size: 20 (default)
V Arrow Size: 20 (default)
Icon Title Font Size: 10 (Was 16)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
===============================================================
Reboot
RealVGA is nice but not sure it's worth this effort. Just too many problems.
Noticed graphics in TF3D are much slower and laggy now as well.
"All Settings" still borked Not sure what else to try at this point.
Good info on this subject is hard to come by. Most ppl seem to have good luck with this app.
Went to re-tick the skin option in RealVGA but it was still ticked. hmmm
What I think is needed is an app that could swap resolutions on the fly with a hotkey. ( Prolly not technically possible)
At least you could have normal usage and only use for certain apps that really benefit from it.
After another reboot the "Disable phone skin" is checked again. Guess it can't be unticked.
Un-ticked "No enlarge title Bar" in Diamond TF3D Config
I am able to open the "Programs" link from the start menu, wonder why settings is screwed.
Tried settings again, no joy, was able to use home key though this time. Not locked up.
Start menu does not work now though. Yikes, had to use reset this time.
Throws arms in the air!
Hard Reset =(
You are funny eidolen.
If you want copy the files I provided to your device (since you don't have a DS yet) and play with it.
You'll hard reset anyway when the SD arrives - LOL
Your also going to find at some point that the more and more tweaks and modifications you make,more problems will start sufacing. I was a rom flashing junkie like many on this forum for 2 years. Since I replaced my prior phone with the Fuze I am running just the stock rom without bloatware and a FEW select tweaks (includes radio change). It runs fast, works good and I dont have to soft reset it all the time.
Take a look at every custom rom, Im not putting any of them down, but after time the threads on them become 100 plus pages long, the number of other fixes to get them running right become impossible to keep track of. It becomes a daily job of just trying to keep that rom working without breaking some other feature or getting it to work right. They put out weekly fixes on most custom roms. They start out with the right intention, but it soon becomes just a bloated non oem rom after time.
Its addicting and fun, but at some point a person just wants to use the phone instead of hard resetting it all the time, flashing roms nightly and trying to figure out how to fix stuff in each rom.
I reached that point now and my fuze is outstanding without having to spend days tinkering with it. It is snappy, reponsive and ALL the software I have installed on it works, and the GPS works flawlessly even inside my house.
But again, your "hands on" approch as your doing now, is probaly the best way to learn
teh bestest
between these last few posts and my little chat with our neighbors PPC on there irc channel i am pretty confident i know what the deal is now, you guys have been a great help, i think im going to play a bit with some roms of course but eventually land on a bloat free standard rom with some added apps like putty and irc etc for sysadmin work, on that note yzf750 could u tell me exactally what u have running on yours sounds like its what im looking for.