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HSDPA Switch in WM6.1

I am a Hermes owner as well. On my Hermes, the icon shows '3G' most of the time until the phone needs to download. At that point, IF HSDPA is available, then the icon changes to 'H' then back to '3G' when download is complete. However, on the Kaiser, when the HSDPA switch is enabled, it never shows '3G'. Always 'H' wherever it's available, then 'E' everywhere else.
Why doesn't it scale back to 3G at all? I would rather the phone be in 3G mode than H all the time to reduce battery drain? Is this right?

You're right in that the phone should act the same way as the Hermes (H when using it, then 3G when idling). I remember vaguely some 6.1 ROMs had an issue where they displayed H all the time, whether it was using HSDPA or not.
Which ROM are you using, my friend? Might be worth looking through the thread for that ROM and seeing if it's a known issue with the ROM, and if it isn't mentioned, posting in that thread to see what other users are experiencing.
I'm sure you'll find that it's just an icon quirk rather than the phone's in the "wrong" state, so your battery life shouldn't be affected.

When I first started using my Tilt, it would switch back and forth between 3G and H icons depending on the network. For the last 4 months, it has remained on H the whole time.
I use KaiserTweak to auto disconnect HSDPA/3G after 1 minute of inactivity, so regardless of the icon being displayed, I have no adverse effects on my battery life.

In freeware PocketToolman, under OS Tweaks, there is an option that allows you to "Show EDGE network icon instead of GPRS". Untick this option to disable the "E" display.

HSUPA
I've seen in some threads that when your icon stays as an H that you are in an HSUPA enabled area. As I don't seem to live in one I couldn't tell you for sure.

When I'm in NYC, my phone is always showing "H." On my train ride between home (CT) and NYC the phone will switch between all bands depending on my location.
So, it's not just always showing "H" irrespective of the true band. And, when home it'll always show 3G until something is downloading, just like you note.
So...it has to be the band in NYC (for me) that's causing the continuous "H."
The best thing is that there is no difference in the battery drain even though the phone is constantly showing "H," and my download speeds have never been faster. I'm constantly in the 1+ mb range.

Confused Stu said:
You're right in that the phone should act the same way as the Hermes (H when using it, then 3G when idling). I remember vaguely some 6.1 ROMs had an issue where they displayed H all the time, whether it was using HSDPA or not.
Which ROM are you using, my friend? Might be worth looking through the thread for that ROM and seeing if it's a known issue with the ROM, and if it isn't mentioned, posting in that thread to see what other users are experiencing.
I'm sure you'll find that it's just an icon quirk rather than the phone's in the "wrong" state, so your battery life shouldn't be affected.
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I have used Dutty's and uDK ROMS. They both act the same. I guess we really don't know EXACTLY which state the phone is on for sure. Since mine only show either 'H' or 'E'. Never ever see '3G'. On my hermes, it's mostly '3G'. I have to see if this really drains my battery quicker or not.
But all of you guys think that it's bug in the icons then?

sirooga said:
I've seen in some threads that when your icon stays as an H that you are in an HSUPA enabled area. As I don't seem to live in one I couldn't tell you for sure.
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I've never heard that. I always thought 'H' was for HSDPA. I guess they should make it distinguishable from each other like 'Ha' and 'Hu' or something.

Originally Posted by sirooga
I've seen in some threads that when your icon stays as an H that you are in an HSUPA enabled area. As I don't seem to live in one I couldn't tell you for sure.
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Yes...maybe that is close. My observations:
The alpha letter(s) refers to the data connection technology. AT&T Q1-2008 network software upgrades enabled the HSUPA feature. At the same time I also noticed the constant "H". However, I caught it early and depending on where I was, I would observe "3G" (idle) - "H" (active data session) - 3G (idle)...or...constant "H". I asked some AT&T contacts and learned that they were rolling out SW upgrades across the market, over a 2-3 week timeframe.
I now get the constant "H". Same ROM through all of this.
"3G" (data) refers to older R99 technology. "H" refers to HSxPA (high speed packet access). It may be that in upgraded areas, the network now defaults to HSDPA (and eventually HSUPA) data connections if the device supports HSP...and the handset is simply reflecting this. Prior to the SW upgrades, HSP enabled devices were still getting pushed to HSP when the data session went active so there is no real difference in performance.
This "H" business has nothing to do with voice. Voice is always plain old UMTS WCDMA.
My point is that I don't think it is an issue with some ROMs. Can't really say that I have noticed any difference in battery life either.

as stated above, when I first got my phone I was getting 3g and H during download and as of late its been an H everywhere, I flashed to dutty's 6.1 rom and everything went back to 3g it dosent even give an H during download.

Might be network specific. I've tried so many roms (on TYTN II) and it has always acted that way where it shows 3g or H from time to time although sometimes it would go down to "G"

I have had the same thing on my kaiser on T-Mobile in the UK, both using the original WM6 rom and that of Dutty (6.1). But it only happens where I live! In most parts of the country, it reverts to 3G. But where I live (North London), it stays constantly on H, irrespective of the rom and the radio used. This started maybe thre months ago. Before that, it would revert to 3G. Any idea?

jweather said:
as stated above, when I first got my phone I was getting 3g and H during download and as of late its been an H everywhere, I flashed to dutty's 6.1 rom and everything went back to 3g it dosent even give an H during download.
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That only happens I think when you have HSDPA turned off. Did you check to see if it was on?

FWIW...
I just flashed to Official *TEST* ATT Build 6.1 AKU 1.0.2 Build 19209. Default icon behavior was constant "3G" after flash. I enabled HSDPA via Kaiser Tweak and icon behavior changed to constant "H". Speed tests report 875 kbps (or so) regardless of HSDPA setting via Kaiser Tweak. Toggling HSDPA on/off via Kaiser Tweak does not appear to change radio performance and speed test results. It only changes icon behavior. The radio is always operating in HSDPA mode, irrespective of icon indication.
YMMV

Im using Dutty WM 6.1. On my Tilt, H only shows up when I have an active data. It reverts back to 3g when there is no data connection or not active data

nforsans said:
I have had the same thing on my kaiser on T-Mobile in the UK, both using the original WM6 rom and that of Dutty (6.1). But it only happens where I live! In most parts of the country, it reverts to 3G. But where I live (North London), it stays constantly on H, irrespective of the rom and the radio used. This started maybe thre months ago. Before that, it would revert to 3G. Any idea?
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It seems as if its related to network dependant than the rom itself as i use to get 3g on and off and revert to H but now its constant H and that started around 3-4 months as well location U.K LONDON

COF23 said:
Im using Dutty WM 6.1. On my Tilt, H only shows up when I have an active data. It reverts back to 3g when there is no data connection or not active data
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What radio are you using and which dutty 6.1? I have used all the 6.1 (currently using dutty 6.1 rtm of april 1) and they all have just shown the H regardless of active data or not..Similar to the other poster with a constant H or 3g
Okay, never mind, Dutty answered...But my Athena (and also my Hermes) still changes from 3g to H and back to 3g..Just my tilt stays on H.

NotATreoFan said:
When I first started using my Tilt, it would switch back and forth between 3G and H icons depending on the network. For the last 4 months, it has remained on H the whole time.
I use KaiserTweak to auto disconnect HSDPA/3G after 1 minute of inactivity, so regardless of the icon being displayed, I have no adverse effects on my battery life.
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Hey Bro, I was doing the same thing with KaiserTweak; and I ran into my tilt not being able to simultaneously do data and voice when I selected anything other than: Disabled (Default)
I use Wayfinder and Google maps while driving and often talk on the phone while needing to download data such as map data.
I raised the question in another thread and a another member pointed out the bug in KaiserTweak.

eagle 1 said:
What radio are you using and which dutty 6.1? I have used all the 6.1 (currently using dutty 6.1 rtm of april 1) and they all have just shown the H regardless of active data or not..Similar to the other poster with a constant H or 3g
Okay, never mind, Dutty answered...But my Athena (and also my Hermes) still changes from 3g to H and back to 3g..Just my tilt stays on H.
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I was using the same rom as you were and the NIKI radio (1.58.21.23 ). Just this morning I loaded the new Dutty rom with radio 1.58.16.27...H is shown with active data and 3g is shown with no data or not active....my location ROCKLIN CA.

Well I have just upgraded my Vodafone UK V1615 to the new official Vodafone release of Mobile 6.1, before that I had WM version 6.0.
Before the upgrade my icon like many here would stay as H in HSDPA enabled areas and then change to 3g or even G in other areas, regardless of whether I had a data connection or not. Now since the upgrade the strange thing is it varies between G and 3G but does not, ever, go to H. I am absolutely certain that I have HSDPA enabled on the phone.
The funny thing is that when I am work which is definitely an area where HSDPA is constant it still reports 3G but when I run a test it downloads at 1350kbps which is definitely HSDPA. Go figure. This rom has only been out a couple of days so it may be a bug. Be interesting to see if anyone else reports this problem, or it may be deliberate because 3g is more familiar to users here in the UK then HSDPA - maybe its to do with marketing!
Cheers
Barney

New ADP 1.5 Radio

Anyone having great gains with this radio? I am gettin better reception in my office (any) where I used to get none!

Had it on for about an hour now, not seen it drop below 2 bars yet. Usually I lose service quite often. Looking forward to trying it at work tomorrow where I get extremely poor signal.
Still flickers between G and 3G though.

makethetick said:
Had it on for about an hour now, not seen it drop below 2 bars yet. Usually I lose service quite often. Looking forward to trying it at work tomorrow where I get extremely poor signal.
Still flickers between G and 3G though.
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You can use anycut or bettercut to set up a shortcut for 3G only.
Instructions: New Shortcut- Activity- Phone Info.

im on at&t, so i dont hit 3g at all. But getting edge in the office.

Gimpeh said:
You can use anycut or bettercut to set up a shortcut for 3G only.
Instructions: New Shortcut- Activity- Phone Info.
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Cheers, I'm going to keep both enabled though, reception is poor at the best of times so I like the idea of keeping my options open

froggymike911 said:
im on at&t, so i dont hit 3g at all. But getting edge in the office.
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dude you will not get 3G on at&t on the g1. research the phone hardware man... tmobile uses 1700 and or 2100 band for 3g access at&t uses a different band... as to all other wireless carriers or there would be a network clash...

clevetbs said:
dude you will not get 3G on at&t on the g1. research the phone hardware man... tmobile uses 1700 and or 2100 band for 3g access at&t uses a different band... as to all other wireless carriers or there would be a network clash...
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before you insult people use your eyes and read
"im on at&t, so i DONT hit 3g at all. But getting edge in the office."
unnecessary rudeness never helped anyone

Anybody extract it yet? I'd like to give it a test.

if by extracted, you mean seperated from the rest of 1.5, yes, i got it that way on haykuro's google code page.
ESKIMOn00b - thanks for havin my back

froggymike911 said:
if by extracted, you mean seperated from the rest of 1.5, yes, i got it that way on haykuro's google code page.
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Extract: 1. To draw out or forth; to pull out; to remove forcibly from a fixed position, as by traction or suction, etc.; as, to extract a tooth from its socket, a stump from the earth, a splinter from the finger.
LOL!!! I'm not messing with you. I just couldn't help myself!!! Thanks for the info.
Edit: I think I was getting better reception with the 2.22.19.23 radio. I'll test this one for a couple of days to see whats what.

froggymike911 said:
if by extracted, you mean seperated from the rest of 1.5, yes, i got it that way on haykuro's google code page.
ESKIMOn00b - thanks for havin my back
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yup!
and to stay on topic, ive got and flashed the new radio yet but havent really noticed any improvements, might just have to go swing by my buddys apartment, never get service in there. must be lined with lead or some $%!^...

Tested out this version the day it came out and i must say the sapphire radio is much better in many ways. Not only does it extend your battery life way more than the ota radio, it also has great service. The ota radio says your on 3g like 90 percent of the time even though you're running on edge, so i guess this might be a bug in that radio. All in all the sapphire radio is the best way to go.

I also think i am getting better reception with the new radio. However my battery life has gotten much worse. I dont even make it a full day without charging and was getting at least 1.5 days before. If it is not the radio causing this the only other possible cause is the calendar widget being on the home page.

How to unlock 3g on a quadband Raphael.

I'm In India,
I got a Raphael this particular one :HTC Raphael
It has a Qualcomm® MSM7206A™ 528 MHz
with the latest stock radio : 1.13.25.24
And a custom ROM.
Now my problem is at the time i bought this there was no 3g in my country.
Now a few carriers provide 3g.
I can't access 3g.
I want to know if there is any way to access 3g by installing a PROGRAM or a ROM or a particular RADIO.
P.S: it doesn't matter if i can't make video calls(as no secondary camera) i would just like to access 3g network.
Please help needed and much appreciated.
PLEASE HELP
Thank you so much.
please help needed ( ihave searched all the fourms but haven't really found a solution, i have PMed many developers they don't respond. Please don't close this thread--> to mods. This is really important.

the raphael can handle 3g no problem. it's up to your service provider to give you access to 3g...

Try just going into the Comm Manager and enabling 3G and see if it connects.

mputtr said:
the raphael can handle 3g no problem. it's up to your service provider to give you access to 3g...
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rmcknight said:
Try just going into the Comm Manager and enabling 3G and see if it connects.
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My raphael is not unlocked or maybe doesn't have the chipset to recieve the 3g network please see my link !
I'm asking if there is any way that i can unlock the settings !
It is nothing to do with operator or comm manage.
Please understand the problem.
The problem is the chipset/processor not the Software or the operator
anyways thanks
PLease post if any solution...

When i first bought my TP, i used my old sim card (from my BA) which was only supporting 2G..so i had to go to the operator to ask for a new sim card that support 3G! once i got the new sim card i could get into 3G no problme....
check your sim card if it support 3G
also check the network setting on your phone (start->setting->phone->band and then make sure to select auto or WCDMA)
hope this helps

moh980 said:
When i first bought my TP, i used my old sim card (from my BA) which was only supporting 2G..so i had to go to the operator to ask for a new sim card that support 3G! once i got the new sim card i could get into 3G no problme....
check your sim card if it support 3G
also check the network setting on your phone (start->setting->phone->band and then make sure to select auto or WCDMA)
hope this helps
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Hey GUys please GO TO THE LINK I PROVIDED In the first post all this is not the problem the probles is the 706A processor provided by HTC which doesn't allow the phone to recieve signals beyond the 1900 band and the 3g signals are at 2100 band range !
And most of the Raphaels which have 3g have the 701A processors not 706A
I was just wondering if some senior member / chef / developer / a friend could help me.......
And tell if flashing a radio are a program will help this situation
Trust me it has nothing to do with operator, SIM , Comm manager !
Thank you all !
Please help if anyone....

actually... 3g operates not only on the 2100 band but also the 1900 and 850 band. It is up to your provider to allow you to use 3g. When I went back to thailand, the phone company I used "locked" 3g and my phone would complain that i could not connect to 3g.. until I called the phone company and I went through a series of instructions that "unlocks" my number to allow 3g.
You need to do a little more research on your question before you go ahead and tell everyone they're wrong. Trust me, providers can prevent you from using 3g capabilities.
The radio only helps transmit the information. some work better than other, but they do not prevent you from using a specific radio. Processors also do not matter since it is more related to the processing speed of the phone, not its ability to handle networks.
check this link to see that the touchpro is indeed, 3g ready, all versions of it that I know of. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php

mputtr said:
actually... 3g operates not only on the 2100 band but also the 1900 and 850 band. It is up to your provider to allow you to use 3g. When I went back to thailand, the phone company I used "locked" 3g and my phone would complain that i could not connect to 3g.. until I called the phone company and I went through a series of instructions that "unlocks" my number to allow 3g.
You need to do a little more research on your question before you go ahead and tell everyone they're wrong. Trust me, providers can prevent you from using 3g capabilities.
The radio only helps transmit the information. some work better than other, but they do not prevent you from using a specific radio. Processors also do not matter since it is more related to the processing speed of the phone, not its ability to handle networks.
check this link to see that the touchpro is indeed, 3g ready, all versions of it that I know of. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
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Sir with all due respect and without being rude to you i have to tell you to READ THIS LINK BEFORE POSTING :HERE
And please note the network part and the part which says the processor :Qualcomm® MSM7206A™ 528 MHz :this processor is the processor which does not allow me to recieve the 3g signals.
And in my country my operator does not have 3g yet but would launch in december. I traveled to 3 countries in last 1 year and tried to connect 3g (with stock radio and rom and failed)
I respect you but i have to say you are "Wrong"
thank you
and please refer to the link.
And i have done all the research i could possibly do before posting a thread.
Thank you ( no offense meant)

ok. you are right. In this case, there is nothing you can do since it is the chipset itself. It is not meant to do 3g and it probably will not do 3g unless you go in and try to mess with the bios itself. That would most probably brick your phone. So to answer your question, no it's not possible unless you want to risk bricking your phone.
the only thing i can say is that it sucks that you bought the version that couldn't do 3g, but there is probably not a way to change that.

It looks like it can not do 3G at all. Interesting, I didn't know they made Raphaels without 3G. It probably doesn't have any hardware to do 3G, just like the european ones don't have the hardware to do 850MHz and 1900MHz 3G used in the U.S.

petard said:
It looks like it can not do 3G at all. Interesting, I didn't know they made Raphaels without 3G. It probably doesn't have any hardware to do 3G, just like the european ones don't have the hardware to do 850MHz and 1900MHz 3G used in the U.S.
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yeah. I thought all touch pro phones are 3g enabled. Well I would have to admittedly say that it really reeks to have a 3g capable phone forced at only 2g through hardware limitations.

guys 3g can be possible
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...

franci1s said:
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...
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Hey do you also have the 706A procesoor ??
And guys it sucks that HTC dared to do this cheapstake thing !
Anyways my bad luck I'll change now only after 2 years so no 3g......
But on the optimistic side i love every other part of the phone specially the way flashing can be done like no other phone !
Its great !
3g would have been an icing on the cake though !
but HTC sucks with that !
Thank you all...

franci1s said:
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...
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sorry francis. As I have realized later in this thread, based on the OP's phone spec, his/her phone is quite literally incapable of doing 3g because it does not have the hardware capability to utilize it.
sim cards, as far as i know does not do anything with which band you can use, it simply holds information like contact list and your phone number ID. Radio also does not matter as i have stated in an earlier post. Radios are like channels on a wireless router, it can send the same signals, it just depends on which channel works best with the majority of computers in the place.

mputtr said:
sorry francis. As I have realized later in this thread, based on the OP's phone spec, his/her phone is quite literally incapable of doing 3g because it does not have the hardware capability to utilize it.
sim cards, as far as i know does not do anything with which band you can use, it simply holds information like contact list and your phone number ID. Radio also does not matter as i have stated in an earlier post. Radios are like channels on a wireless router, it can send the same signals, it just depends on which channel works best with the majority of computers in the place.
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just for your information even Francis has the same set of TP with the same processor (706A) and hence he has the smae problem/ bad luck !
And we both need the same solution ( IF ANY AT ALL.........)
Thank you.

yes i realized that I misread the post and misunderstood your original problem. But in this case it seems like a hardware limitation. something you can't solve with software changes. Although I'll have to admit that there is a chance that a bios flash might do something. but you will probably run a massive risk of bricking your phone permanently and I highly doubt it is worth the risk.
Hopefully one of the mods here would know if there is a way around this. good luck

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yes i realized that i misread the post and misunderstood your original problem. But in this case it seems like a hardware limitation. Something you can't solve with software changes. Although i'll have to admit that there is a chance that a bios flash might do something. But you will probably run a massive risk of bricking your phone permanently and i highly doubt it is worth the risk.
Hopefully one of the mods here would know if there is a way around this. Good luck
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MOD EDIT: yelling will not help you overcome a device hardware limitation.

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Droid's GSM/UMTS reception

Question for all people running Droids (Mini) on GSM networks. How is your reception? I have my Droid on my desk and the phone is saying 50% signal strength. My nokia next to it, on the same carrier is 100%. In my garage my nokia has a signal, my droid hasn't.
settings says UMTS = -90 dBm
Is this normal?

where do u live i think im having the same issues dont know why

L7iharsha said:
where do u live i think im having the same issues dont know why
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Europe... When I turn data ON, then the settings says GSM signal about 80%, but notice the icon on top right corner is still small. Screenshot attached.
Very sad about this. I am living in the middle of the capital city, all phones I have ever had had 100% signal here.

I´m having the same issue with my droid maxx in Sweden

My mini is suffering the same deal, one bar almost all the time here in Sacramento with aio.

Thanks a lot for your feedback. I have investigated a bit and found this. It was confusing for me that UMTS and GSM was switching during data access so try this:
settings > more > mobile networks > network mode - here I had GLOBAL, but I changed to LTE/GSM/UMTS. If you do that, new options will be available in mobile networks menu. Here:
select network > GSM only
Huray, 100% signal strength!
I have no deep knowledge of this, but it seems that the phone is by default in UMTS mode when it has crappy reception. This could be because of the design of the phone, or because this is a new technology and the carriers network sux in UMTS. My nokia has no UMTS capability and is in GSM mode, so thats probably the reason why it was OK and Droid was KO.
Only problem with this is that you will probably have slower data connection. But you can experiment with this and switch to UMTS any time.
It would be great if somebody with deeper knowledge of this participate. Who knows what the android icon shows and how the switching is done.

ArdW said:
Thanks a lot for your feedback. I have investigated a bit and found this. It was confusing for me that UMTS and GSM was switching during data access so try this:
settings > more > mobile networks > network mode - here I had GLOBAL, but I changed to LTE/GSM/UMTS. If you do that, new options will be available in mobile networks menu. Here:
select network > GSM only
Huray, 100% signal strength!
I have no deep knowledge of this, but it seems that the phone is by default in UMTS mode when it has crappy reception. This could be because of the design of the phone, or because this is a new technology and the carriers network sux in UMTS. My nokia has no UMTS capability and is in GSM mode, so thats probably the reason why it was OK and Droid was KO.
Only problem with this is that you will probably have slower data connection. But you can experiment with this and switch to UMTS any time.
It would be great if somebody with deeper knowledge of this participate. Who knows what the android icon shows and how the switching is done.
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I have just inserted a nano SIM on my Droid Maxx and guess what.
The network is seen, but registration does not get through.
So, I tried another nano SIM (from another provider). The data works fine, but calls cannot be made.
So, is the Verizon phone locked to the carrier?
I am trying to use the phone outside India and the carrier bands is not an issue.
I see two local carriers right now, but the registration process takes forever and does not complete.
Any ideas?

it shouldn't be locked. Have you checked the settings I wrote about? I don't know what type of network you have in India. Or check your provider's bands, what type of network it has and check with your phone settings.
Many people on XDA proved that these phones work on GSM networks.

To all:check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326310
WTF. I have tried this, I found a similar line but it doesn't help.

Droid Maxx
ArdW said:
it shouldn't be locked. Have you checked the settings I wrote about? I don't know what type of network you have in India. Or check your provider's bands, what type of network it has and check with your phone settings.
Many people on XDA proved that these phones work on GSM networks.
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Well, I have looked at those settings. If I switch to anything other than Global mode, after a few seconds, I get a message that there is no network found or something like that. It prompts me to switch back to Global mode. Even if I cancel that and try selecting GSM or UMTS, there is no real difference. I don't see any network. With my earlier cut SIM, at least I was able to see the network.
My cut SIM is now with an adapter inside my normal phone where it works flawlessly. So there is nothing wrong with the nano SIM as well.

OK so I take back that my nokia hasn't 3G. It has and the signal is full. So it is the DROID!
I tried modifying build.prop with no results. Also entered the testmenu and the signal strength here is the same as in settings menu.
I am frustrated.

Try: fastboot oem config carrier <carrier name>, you can use <tmo>, I write my carrier name <megafon>, 3G -57 -65 -71db now...
it helped me...
I have problem with cell reception and cell strength icon at Gummy rom, developer advise me this.
In fastboot mode write this: fastboot oem config carrier tmo, check Google, this is standard command. tmo-GSM/WCDMA, Verizon-CDMA operator.

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Try: fastboot oem config carrier <carrier name>, you can use <tmo>, I write my carrier name <megafon>, 3G -57 -65 -71db now...
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can you be a little more specific... you had the same problem and just after this command your 3G signal is better?

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Try: fastboot oem config carrier <carrier name>, you can use <tmo>, I write my carrier name <megafon>, 3G -57 -65 -71db now...
it helped me...
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what do you mean I don't get it?

sinanharb said:
what do you mean I don't get it?
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i do like u said but same signal as first
can u be more specific what comand will must give and where?

danger2u said:
i do like u said but same signal as first
can u be more specific what comand will must give and where?
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you are asking the wrong guy lol

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Try: fastboot oem config carrier <carrier name>, you can use <tmo>, I write my carrier name <megafon>, 3G -57 -65 -71db now...
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i do like u said but same signal as first
can u be more specific what comand will must give and where?

okay so I tried
fastboot oem config carrier vodafone and fastboot oem config carrier tmo and sadly no change, still 1-3 signal bars at max

same for me
maybe that guy just trolling

danger2u said:
same for me
maybe that guy just trolling
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I dont think so, he had just a different problem probably. I checked his original post and he had no signal at all due to custom rom.

Which band is missing on the N920T from the N920A?

I'm having a hard time finding a definitive answer about which LTE band I'll lose using the tmobile variant on att.

I don't think any, I think both are identical. I am using the N920T with AT&t. I would suggest you consider using DarthStalkers ROM, he was able to pull the AT&T carrier files.
The N920T & A are the same. If you had bought the N920I you might lose bands.

Does anyone know where I can get a band 12 coverage map? I can only find the LTE coverage map which doesn't specify if band 12 is used there

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I'm having a hard time finding a definitive answer about which LTE band I'll lose using the tmobile variant on att.
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17 and 30 (I don't think the 920t's band 12 will work with AT&T's B17 - even though 12 is a subset of 17 (or do I have that backwards?) Possibly 29 (downlink only for AT&T) - but there's very little documentation on B29, so I'm not sure if the N920A supports it or not.

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17 and 30 (I don't think the 920t's band 12 will work with AT&T's B17 - even though 12 is a subset of 17 (or do I have that backwards?) Possibly 29 (downlink only for AT&T) - but there's very little documentation on B29, so I'm not sure if the N920A supports it or not.
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Could you be so kind as to translate what that will mean to me? I have a t-mobile note 4 here on att and it seems to do fine.. Do you think I'll be so lucky with the note 5?

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Could you be so kind as to translate what that will mean to me? I have a t-mobile note 4 here on att and it seems to do fine.. Do you think I'll be so lucky with the note 5?
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Band 29 is rarely used by AT&T (only as a downlink in heavily congested areas.) This shouldn't be a problem.
Band 30 (WCS band) is something AT&T _just_ started deploying, but I've never seen it in actual use. In fact, until very recently, none of AT&T's own phones supported it. B30 is really of limited value for general use due to it's propagation (or lack thereof.) Like 29, its probably only used as a supplement to other bands. I wouldn't worry about B30.
B17, however, is a Big Deal for AT&T. That's AT&T's primary "lower frequency" LTE band. Because of the low frequency, it has excellent propagation (meaning it moves farther and through trees, buildings, etc.) They use this band to cover large geographical areas with minimal towers. If you will be using your phone in a non-urban area, B17 is almost essential for AT&T. (My phone spends the majority of the time at my home on B17.)
I haven't heard of anyone with a TMO Note 5 device (without explicit B17 support) attaching to AT&T's B17, but that doesn't mean it won't work. However, Unless someone confirms B17 functionality on the n290T from actual use (and not just what they think), I'd suggest assuming that it won't work.

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Band 29 is rarely used by AT&T (only as a downlink in heavily congested areas.) This shouldn't be a problem.
Band 30 (WCS band) is something AT&T _just_ started deploying, but I've never seen it in actual use. In fact, until very recently, none of AT&T's own phones supported it. B30 is really of limited value for general use due to it's propagation (or lack thereof.) Like 29, its probably only used as a supplement to other bands. I wouldn't worry about B30.
B17, however, is a Big Deal for AT&T. That's AT&T's primary "lower frequency" LTE band. Because of the low frequency, it has excellent propagation (meaning it moves farther and through trees, buildings, etc.) They use this band to cover large geographical areas with minimal towers. If you will be using your phone in a non-urban area, B17 is almost essential for AT&T. (My phone spends the majority of the time at my home on B17.)
I haven't heard of anyone with a TMO Note 5 device (without explicit B17 support) attaching to AT&T's B17, but that doesn't mean it won't work. However, Unless someone confirms B17 functionality on the n290T from actual use (and not just what they think), I'd suggest assuming that it won't work.
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An informative post if ever there was one indeed.
What app do you use to determine which hand your phone is connected thru? I have found this app "LTE discovery", and it seems my att note 3 stays connected to 5 mostly, or 4 for lte. But then for GSM is doesn't list a band, but appears connected. On her t-mobile note 4 connected to att, she stays on 5, but the GSM doesn't appear to be connected to anything..
We will be almost exclusively in the middle of a city, but as with anything that could change or in the event of a road trip..
Is there a place I can sit and study this information? Perhaps a website with all of this data? Or do you happen to work in the field?
In a sea of noobs, an informed person is a real diamond in the rough - I appreciate your time.

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What app do you use to determine which hand your phone is connected thru? I have found this app "LTE discovery", and it seems my att note 3 stays connected to 5 mostly, or 4 for lte.
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That's a good app to use. I also use my phone's diagnostic menu's, but I doubt AT&T left those enabled on the 'a' variant.[/QUOTE]
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But then for GSM is doesn't list a band, but appears connected. On her t-mobile note 4 connected to att, she stays on 5, but the GSM doesn't appear to be connected to anything..
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Is that with "lte discovery" that she doesn't appear to have any GSM side connection? She most likely does, as that's where voice calls will take place...
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Is there a place I can sit and study this information? Perhaps a website with all of this data?
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Google. Then google some more. If you run out of pages from google, use another search engine. All the information is readily available - it just takes time to find it all.

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That's a good app to use. I also use my phone's diagnostic menu's, but I doubt AT&T left those enabled on the 'a' variant.
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Is that with "lte discovery" that she doesn't appear to have any GSM side connection? She most likely does, as that's where voice calls will take place...
Google. Then google some more. If you run out of pages from google, use another search engine. All the information is readily available - it just takes time to find it all.[/QUOTE]
so i got through all the hoops.. don't have LTE ;-(
it connects to band 4 or 5 when i first come out of airplane mode, but it jumps right back off. stuck on 4g. called at&t for an hour, they said initially it wasn't provisioned on my sim card, but then afterwards they determined it was a problem on my end, walked my thru APN settings and then ended the call.. still no LTE.
do you have an opinion of what i could do?

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do you have an opinion of what i could do?
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Quoting me in a thread was enough... didn't have to also PM me...
@TEKHD has a firmware that might work for you. Check it out over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...h6-tekxodus-n5-urv1-00-00-lollipop-5-t3201869
He has apparently provided a mechanism that is working for other AT&T users... (probably via loading the AT&T RIL libs.)
I haven't tried this (and I don't even have a 't' variant myself.) On the other hand, a quick search of that thread seems to show that other people are having successes with AT&T sim's on 't' variant devices.
Good luck!
Gary

sorry about the double.
after a precursory examination, idon't see exactly what you are talking about in his thread..
is it a download?

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Quoting me in a thread was enough... didn't have to also PM me...
He has apparently provided a mechanism that is working for other AT&T users... (probably via loading the AT&T RIL libs.)
Good luck!
Gary
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the search feature doesn't appear to work for me; shows 0 results on att or at&t.. i'm having to sift thru all 114 pages by hand.

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He has apparently provided a mechanism that is working for other AT&T users... (probably via loading the AT&T RIL libs.)
Gary
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i searched all 114 pages and didn't find reference to any of that.. now i know why search provided no results; there weren't any!
so i need to find the att ril libraries. how will i ever find that.

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i searched all 114 pages and didn't find reference to any of that.. now i know why search provided no results; there weren't any!
so i need to find the att ril libraries. how will i ever find that.
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Maybe that was the wrong firmware... it's something in the TMO dev section. Please search.

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Maybe that was the wrong firmware... it's something in the TMO dev section. Please search.
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i've searched the entire tmo dev section for term "at&t" and there are sparse hits; there is some conversation about CSC for a guy in canada getting his VoLTE working, but nothing on att.

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i've searched the entire tmo dev section for term "at&t" and there are sparse hits; there is some conversation about CSC for a guy in canada getting his VoLTE working, but nothing on att.
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Apparently, you already found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...on-1-aroma-t3212091/post63516726#post63516726
This has AT&T RIL's in the update.zip, and from a quick look at the first post in that thread, they are installed based on an aroma installer. Others in that thread claim it works for them. You're using a TMO device on ATT, so you have to expect some level of incompatibility. There are AT&T LTE bands that the TMO device simply doesn't support. It doesn't matter what happens with your Note 4. Different device and different modem.
So, if you want to use a TMO device on ATT, you'll have to make some sacrifices. Most people will find the sacrifices are less drastic using an international version of the phone. For some reason, US carriers go out of their way to ensure their devices are incompatible with each other.

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Apparently, you already found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...on-1-aroma-t3212091/post63516726#post63516726
This has AT&T RIL's in the update.zip, and from a quick look at the first post in that thread, they are installed based on an aroma installer. Others in that thread claim it works for them. .
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ok this is where i started, by flashing the ATT option for this rom. but that doesn't solve the problem. i'm in the process of clean flashing the tmobile choice like he suggested.
thanks for all your help.
i'm afraid this isn't going to work either. i realize the wife's note 4 may have different hardware, and isn't a good reference.
i can see the thing connect to band 5, then band 4, lte .. but it's in "emergency calls only" mode, then it gives up on that, connects to HSUPA or HSPA+ and that's the last of an LTE connection.
i feel like it would connect if it could, and that i'm having a software issue.

problem solved guys sorry for the large headache..
Solution:
AT&T did not recognize my IMEI as being LTE capable. Because of that, they decline to allow my phone to connect to LTE. My phone would connect to an LTE tower (as in the screen shots a few pages back), but wouldn't receive anything back from AT&T, so it would say "emergency calls only" and then give up after about 10 seconds, and then never go back. Crap data all around at this time.
What you'll need to do is walk into an AT&T store, take a picture of the IMEI off an LTE phone, and then call in and change your IMEI to the phone you found. This will cause the system to recognize your phone as LTE capable, and like magic, you'll have LTE.

I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.

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I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.
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Does it attach to band 17 on AT&T or t-mobile?