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I'm getting fed up with the WM6 frivalousnous. I believe i should go back to WM5 now. I really want Windows Live though. Is there any type of cab to get Windows Live on the MDA? I searched but came up with nothing. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Maydwell said:
I'm getting fed up with the WM6 frivalousnous. I believe i should go back to WM5 now. I really want Windows Live though. Is there any type of cab to get Windows Live on the MDA? I searched but came up with nothing. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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If you dislike WM6 sooo much, then try posting in the appropriate forum NOT the WM6 forum. You'll probably get better reception without "frivaless" comments...
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Maydwell said:
I'm getting fed up with the WM6 frivalousnous. I believe i should go back to WM5 now. I really want Windows Live though. Is there any type of cab to get Windows Live on the MDA? I searched but came up with nothing. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Yes u can download it here is the link:
http://mahmood1.com/Documents/windowsLive_PPC2005_ARM.CAB
http://mahmood1.com/free_softwares_for_windows_mobile_pocket_pc.aspx
thanks mahmood
but i realized that i'd be a fool to go back to WM5 anyways. So i'm content again,LoL
demontefixo said:
If you dislike WM6 sooo much, then try posting in the appropriate forum NOT the WM6 forum. You'll probably get better reception without "frivaless" comments...
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He's asking for a WM6 feature, therefore, he did post in the right forum.
P.S. WM6 does appear to suck nuts... GPRS disconnect issue trumps all of its benefits.
herzzreh said:
He's asking for a WM6 feature, therefore, he did post in the right forum.
P.S. WM6 does appear to suck nuts... GPRS disconnect issue trumps all of its benefits.
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Odd... my device and the 18 or so of my client's that are running Faria's latest (not the vanilla) are estatic, very few issues. Must just be us...
herzzreh said:
P.S. WM6 does appear to suck nuts... GPRS disconnect issue trumps all of its benefits.
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Not too sure I agree with you on that, but that's a matter of personal preference, I suppose. I've had three different versions of WM6 on my 8125 in the past couple of months -- first the MB, then the Underground, and now Faria's. I have to say I've been happy with all three. The only reason I keep changing is for more RAM. (I like having LOTS of RAM -- LOL!!)
I haven't experienced the GPRS disconnect issue with ANY of the three and my internet gets a GOOD workout on a daily basis with tethering, emails and apps that update via the internet throughout the day. In fact, any problems I've had with any of them have had to do with "Button Actuator Deficit" (i.e. user error)
I for one can honestly say that I'll NEVER go back to WM5. . . even though all the chefs on here did a FABULOUS job of cooking them up for us -- WM6 Rocks!!!
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Odd... my device and the 18 or so of my client's that are running Faria's latest (not the vanilla) are estatic, very few issues. Must just be us...
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Although I don't think it's as bad as herzzreh says, it (WM6) definitely does have problems for some devices. 2.19 didn't consistently fix the GRPS drop problem for me - it worked intermittently. I also randomly got 'Phone not ready - wait 15 seconds' (or words to that effect) when trying to send SMS messages. Those issues combined with the poor reception of the 2.19 radio (compared to 2.61) mean't it wasn't worth the hassle for the few extra features WM6 gives.
cheers,
Andrew
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Odd... my device and the 18 or so of my client's that are running Faria's latest (not the vanilla) are estatic, very few issues. Must just be us...
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Who knows? Mine had 0 issues, except for this annoying GPRS disconnect issue, evne with 2.19 radio. If not for this, I'd be all over about using faria's WM6 rom.
BTW, thanks for the link to 3.3 rom!
you guys might be on to something
Maybe i've been out of the loop for a while but i have the MB version of WM6. I was wondering if i should stick with this version or maybe jump to a newer version. I've seen the other version's however don't feel confident that it would solve issues dealing with MB version. I really wouldn't want to jump to another rom just to find out i have the same issues. Only issues i still currently have are the GPRS and WIFI not staying strong after i connect(more so WIFI than GPRS). The WIFI connects and is ok one minute than says "connecting" the next minute. Anyhow,i appreciate all comments either bad or good on this thread. It certainly opened my eyes to some other issues.
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Who knows? Mine had 0 issues, except for this annoying GPRS disconnect issue, evne with 2.19 radio. If not for this, I'd be all over about using faria's WM6 rom.
BTW, thanks for the link to 3.3 rom!
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I am not even having the GPRS disco problem. I am using the 2.47.11 radio.
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Maydwell said:
Maybe i've been out of the loop for a while but i have the MB version of WM6. I was wondering if i should stick with this version or maybe jump to a newer version. I've seen the other version's however don't feel confident that it would solve issues dealing with MB version. I really wouldn't want to jump to another rom just to find out i have the same issues. Only issues i still currently have are the GPRS and WIFI not staying strong after i connect(more so WIFI than GPRS). The WIFI connects and is ok one minute than says "connecting" the next minute. Anyhow,i appreciate all comments either bad or good on this thread. It certainly opened my eyes to some other issues.
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Your call really. If you have MBE tweaked out and all and its working good, then it is a good ROM (I liked it). But for me WiFi on it never worked right. Wifi just works (no issues) on Faria's or NotTooSmart's (which is what I'm on now). Plus you have more memory and there is no soft key lag (that I had on MBE). I've heard others complain about other things in the newer roms, so it really depends on what you use if its worth it. Definetly get a good backup of MBE if you decide to switch as you may want to restore back to good settings if you don't like the newer roms.
Personally I'm waiting for Faria's Vanilla to test out the ability to use 2.61 Radio since he's putting in the AKU 3.3 comm stack. If that works, that will be fantastic!
Leaving WM6
I almost left WM6, but I changed my mind... what did it? The Nottosmart vanilla
I had tried Faria and MB, and was having connectivity reliability issues with both of them. Now I can put up with device instability (it is Windows after all ) if I am trying to run programs, browse the internet, or do other stuff, but when it comes to the phone and e-mail capabilities I just need it to work.
I hadn't had any problems with WM5 from the first summitter ROM I tried, to unluckywivesclub, and multiple Faria and Molski variations as well. What I think I discovered is that quite honestly, different handsets act differently, even with the same setups! This may not be logical, but we are talking about computers here.
Anyway, I had actually gone back to Faria's 3.3 when nottosmart's vanilla came out. it was a weekend so I figured I would flash it, hate it over the weekend, and put WM5 back by Monday.
Well my phone has never worked or looked better. I have no GPRS reconnection issues (and I am running 2.47 radio!!!) and I honestly see myself sticking with this for quite a while. I want to see faria's vanilla since the man is so damn talented and to see what the variations are to my current (but basically vanilla is vanilla, right?) and since what I have works I probably won't change.
Will this work for you? I have no idea. I have a few programs & tweaks installed but not a lot. For all I know I am one program away from a meltdown, but for now I am a VERY happy camper.
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Odd... my device and the 18 or so of my client's that are running Faria's latest (not the vanilla) are estatic, very few issues. Must just be us...
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You and your clients need to try X-plore wm6, you guys will be beyond ecstatic then. no issues what so ever. The speed and amount of free memory is mind bogling
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You and your clients need to try X-plore wm6, you guys will be beyond ecstatic then. no issues what so ever. The speed and amount of free memory is mind bogling
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The X-plore's a good ROM no doubt. It DOES have a few issues, all ROM's do, even carrier stock ROM's.
Faria's is the most stable over time that I've installed however, it just works
And it was originally a Wizard ROM and not ported...
(Please understand that I've been running various renditions of his present ROM for the past several months that weren't made available to the masses..)
And everyone talks about free RAM....just how much RAM does one need ?????
the download page windows live cab
hi guys , check this out there is a windows live cab file to download and ist no trial and no beta
http://www.ppc-phones.de/punforum/viewtopic.php?pid=47040
greets , tmobilemda
ps: sorry for my english , i am german
there is another link for the windowslive cab file nobeta notrial and there are cabs for smartphone and ppc
http://www.ppc-phones.de/punforum/viewtopic.php?pid=47815#p47815
hi all,
is there newer wm6 rom than 1.1? if i am not mistaken now all wm6 rom available in this forum is v1.1 (helmi,jwright,darkforce,etc.).
rgds,
jwright and i think darkforce are not based on 1.1. neither are my beta roms (but you can't have yet, setill a few bugs )
I'm still really dissapointed with all of the WM6 ROM releases, the memory management is absolutely dire compared to WM6 on the Wizard.
Running the same apps, I get about 17 to 20mb free RAM on my Wizard, and it doesn't seem to suffer from leaks anywhere near as bad.
On the Universal, after a day of use, it's down to 8mb.
I know it caches more for graphics, but it's still pretty poor.
I guess untill more is commercially released for things to be borrowed from, I'm stuck with it though.
just wait a few days maybe a week, then i should ahve a MUCH better rom.
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I'm still really dissapointed with all of the WM6 ROM releases, the memory management is absolutely dire compared to WM6 on the Wizard.
Running the same apps, I get about 17 to 20mb free RAM on my Wizard, and it doesn't seem to suffer from leaks anywhere near as bad.
On the Universal, after a day of use, it's down to 8mb.
I know it caches more for graphics, but it's still pretty poor.
I guess untill more is commercially released for things to be borrowed from, I'm stuck with it though.
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I agree the memory drops to 8-9mb even if the device is on standby.
Wm6 drawback.
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I agree the memory drops to 8-9mb ieven if the device is on standby.
Wm6 drawback.
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I don't have that kind of problem.
After using some apps and free ram after I get between 17 and 19, sometimes 20Mb.
I've Wisbar, pocketbreeze and ilauncher running on today.
Cheers.
Well, I only run PocketBreeze & iLauncher on my today screen, and regular apps are Live Messenger, MS Reader, Pocket Word & Excel, and Pocket Informant.
These same apps on my Wizard don't cause a problem, but on the Universal they do, on every single WM6 ROM.
Some last longer than others before the memory goes down that far, but in general, the Universal WM6 builds have issues that other devices running WM6 don't suffer from.
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I don't have that kind of problem.
After using some apps and free ram after I get between 17 and 19, sometimes 20Mb.
I've Wisbar, pocketbreeze and ilauncher running on today.
Cheers.
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Yes I do get upto 18mb . but there is gradual decline in memory. I surely feel there is a leak in all wm6 roms. Lets hope in future we will get a good solution to this.
Same frustrations until just the last several days. Now using arifqur's HK ROM... there's no real leakage (24MB->20MB), and it seems otherwise stable. Very fast, as long as I don;t use WA2.
Recommended!
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just wait a few days maybe a week, then i should ahve a MUCH better rom.
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cant hardly wait. pls lemme noe when u have it ready
I'm using Hemi's WM6 1.1 with no memoryleak problems what so ever. Using WA2+WAD, phonealarm, P+, PB, weatherpanel and many other apps installed.
main memory: 10.56 and internal storage 19.92
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just wait a few days maybe a week, then i should ahve a MUCH better rom.
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how's the new rom test going?
not quite ready yet
trust me when its good to go you'll know...
But what would these forums be without update requests, and then countless thank you, and this is the best rom ever posts
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But what would these forums be without update requests, and then countless thank you, and this is the best rom ever posts
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lol, some humor is always welcome. Also nice to star the day. he he
Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
Very strange... I have not had any issues so far and I have flashed every WM 6.1 rom that has been posted thus far. What radio version are you running with the WM 6.1 builds?
Tried all tree radio's. Never had problems with sound, camera, gps, but every time 'the lag is back'.
Is it possible it has something to do with a combi of pagepool and cache-settings?
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Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
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Try running Alex's 1.62 AT&T build. That thing is pretty freaking fast Got a great SPB benchmarking score of 436 according to my testing.
Is the 1.62 rom WM6.1?
Can I use an ATT Tilt rom on a non ATT phone (Dutch MDA Vario III Tmobile)? Never tried that, because of all the warnings about ATT and non ATT phones/radio's/etc.
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No it is not. But it does have a lot of updated drivers & Bluetooth fixes. Check the official post regarding this.
It was running very smoothly for me, even the non cooked one.
This ROM was actually released on HTC's website as an official update to the Tilts.
I agree, it is so laggy i went to Alex's 6.1 because he does great work but i did notice it was very slow and would lock up most of the time. i tried all the radio's same issue even tried just clearing out my phone thinking it was a program causing a conflict and same issue. i ended up going back to Alex's 6.0ROM and all is good in the hood once again
btw if you real this ALEX you rock
i hope that this is not some "FLUKE" bug that happens to a small amount of people and wont get reviewed by the higher powers as a issue.
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Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
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Lagging? Are you comparing that lag to original ATT roms or one of Dutty's/Sleuth/cooked roms? compared to dualtouch v4(dutty), ive found some lag as well, but not compared to ATT's, blazing compared to ATT...
If you've try many roms already? Can I ask are you using a task manager?
Tweaks; cooked roms are already tweak to better suit them.
I am using Dutty's 6.1 Official, and I love it to death. I had used his beta and it had a lot of bugs and was laggy so I had to revert back, however his new rom is gorgeous (THANKS DUTTY), it is very smooth and other than not being able to soft reset through the power switch, there is no lag and I am using radio 1.58.26.20
Oh its a tilt
I agree, I tried three 6.1 ROMs including the latest Dutty's ROM which I am currently on... and they all lag...
Also notice a problem when I go to the call logs screen and press the red endkey button to go to the home
thanks for this thread. I was considering flashing, but after this I'll stick to my stock rom till official upgrade. I am on wm6 t-mob uk and after tweaks I cannot see the reason to flash anything else anyway. the device is rock solid and snappy enough.
cheers
bro
stay out of the kitchen...
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
bronx said:
thanks for this thread. I was considering flashing, but after this I'll stick to my stock rom till official upgrade. I am on wm6 t-mob uk and after tweaks I cannot see the reason to flash anything else anyway. the device is rock solid and snappy enough.
cheers
bro
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I can not agree more. the stock rom I have, WWE Tytn II , equipped with tons and tons of cabs I found here is stable at 99.9 %. Though Dutties Rom gives an almost 1800 VSbenchmark and mine only 1392, I do not complain.
Videoclips lag, though I found out that theyd DO play better when using the "X" bottom before, stopping all open applications.
I am eager to flash, but only when a guaranteed stable and quick cooked 6.1 ROM will offer me further a fuzz-free environment.
EDIT 1: No, I have no lag what so ever.
EDIT 2: I owe a lot of respect for all chefs spending plenty of hours on their work (hobby?) helping this community. I just wait for the one who might have "the ultimate ROM" .Fair no?
(i am playing with the 3D.dll 's further on meawhile hehe)
Keyboard\Screen lag
I promise that lag will be gone if you flash mine
Commercial for myself but I fixed the screen\keyboard lag
My base is latest Vodafone 6.1 ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014
Cheers,
Leo
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i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
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well, there is a reason why people are complaining: all WM6.1 ROMS (till now) are considerably slower than the recent cooked WM6.0 ROMS.
At least according to "objective" tests like SPB Benchmark and VS Benchmark the WM6.1 still can't catch up the WM6.0's..
So the feeling of lagginess (does this word exist?) is understandable.
But our cooks are working so only a matter of time???.
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Lagging? Are you comparing that lag to original ATT roms or one of Dutty's/Sleuth/cooked roms? compared to dualtouch v4(dutty), ive found some lag as well, but not compared to ATT's, blazing compared to ATT...
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Compared to wm6 roms. They are really fast, but all wm6.1 roms I tried aren't....
Michaelr219 said:
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
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Maybe utter nonsense for your device, so be happy with THAT in stead of putting words in somebodies mouth.... On my device there IS lag... and I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK OF ALL THE CHEFS! Threads like this have the intension of helping people with problems with upgrading.
Having said that.... all others: thanx for the advice sofar. Any suggestions on pagepool & cache settings fixing the lagproblem on some devices are welcome And for all the chefs I'm gonna use the positive words of Michaelr219: keep up the good work!!!
hello again.
sorry if it's going to be an offtop, but after reading Your posts some things have crossed my mind.
back in the days when I was quite happy owner of vario II (wm 5 out of the box) exciting thing have happened. when I was browsing through these forums I've spotted a wm6 rom for my device. that was something. just like jumping from w95 to xp on pc. almost everything seemed to be different. I was using black flavour (best regards jasjamming wherever You are now Mate) with various versions. flashing addiction was quite understandable then, as we were improving our devices A LOT.
now with vario III I am wondering why people are trying hard to fix things that are not broken? I am not bashing anyone's work, I have a lot of love for all the so called cooks for their free contribution, but I don't understand what is this fuss all about.
as I read more and more I learn, that 6.1 is not that great at all. ppl are asking how to switch off threaded sms, pie is still unusable(ish) and now the info that roms are slower than 6.
so can please guy who said to stay out explain to me what's so good with those 6.1 that I cannot have with 6? I am not flaming or whatever, maybe I just lost something while diggin' through all those threads.
I also said, that imo it's not a bad idea to hold on for offcial roms given official way, as they are tend to be more solid and complete.
just my five cents
br
bro
Just found this article over on Engadget that proclaims that (via Twitter) Microsoft has announced that 6.5 has, indeed, gone gold.
Engadget Post here.
Cool, but haven't most of us flashed to some cooked v. already? Neat, but mundane-ish.
Sounds great! I hope microsoft will release it soon.
Can I still get it when my phone isn't flashed and is still on default software?
Ok, for those of you who had the at&t "Tilt" (Kaiser), if we use the same timeline....MS RTM'd 6.5, let's say they ship it in July. If we use that as a benchmark, and remember how long it took at&t to release 6.1 for the Tilt, it will be December 09 at the EARLIEST before we could see (if at all) 6.5 show up "officially" on the Touch Pro. LOL.......
If it wasn't for the cooks on XDA, we'd be slaves to whenever the carriers would get around to releasing updates. "Timely manor" is not in their vocabulary.
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Cool, but haven't most of us flashed to some cooked v. already? Neat, but mundane-ish.
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So how is this mundane? We have been running beta software up to this point.
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So how is this mundane? We have been running beta software up to this point.
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Chill man, it's sarcasm. Did ya notice the eyes rolling? But it's not going to be a whole lot diff except for hopefully less buggy, and the beta's I've been running have been really pretty solid for the most part. I'm looking forward to this as much as anybody. Lets loosen up. Life's way to short.
Good news, but I don't think there will be many differences with current custom 6.5 roms. Of course it's good to have the latest stable version as the base for custom roms.
jcotterman said:
Just found this article over on Engadget that proclaims that (via Twitter) Microsoft has announced that 6.5 has, indeed, gone gold.
Engadget Post here.
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No gold, no happy!
6.5 is very slowly！
Might not be "gold" but the roms on XDA are pretty good. Installed 6.5 last night, MUCH faster than 6.1. UI has NO lag.
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No gold, no happy!
6.5 is very slowly！
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Might not be "gold" but the roms on XDA are pretty good. Installed 6.5 last night, MUCH faster than 6.1. UI has NO lag.
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With TF3D or with the new 6.5 look?
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With TF3D or with the new 6.5 look?
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Either or. It's about a billion times faster.
The rom I downloaded, was RRE's series 6, 6.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506837
He has the default wm6.5 interface (called chrome) & the tf3d interface. You simply toggle the one you want from the today screen.
My Fuze is MUCH faster... no screen lag, even when rotating. I'm still using the TF3D interface, haven't had much time to tinker with anything...too busy at work. If you've never flashed one, other than a rom update from a carrier (if yours is carrier locked), you'll need to do some reading. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Simple, straight forward steps on how to flash one.
I already knew what I needed, but ran the instructions step by step..."stupidly simple" as I like to call it. Once you get hard SPL changed,
flashing is the same (if you use the Rom Update Utility). It updates, reboots, and you are done.
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I have been waiting for 6.5 to be out of beta before flashing. I will probably flash 6.5 tonight anyways...even if 6.5 is gold...it will be awhile before we get our hands on an offical release.
Yeah, if you have an at&t fuze....I remember when the 6.1 update came out...it took at&t over 6 months to finally release it "officially".
The 6.5 is the first "cooked" rom I've used. I won't use a "carrier" rom update
again. These are for lack of another term, bloat free.
This one has a few apps and some really nice tools that i download and install
anyway. The program "update" utility is really nice to have.
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.it will be awhile before we get our hands on an offical release.
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The rom I downloaded, was RRE's series 6, 6.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506837
He has the default wm6.5 interface (called chrome) & the tf3d interface. You simply toggle the one you want from the today screen.
My Fuze is MUCH faster... no screen lag, even when rotating. I'm still using the TF3D interface, haven't had much time to tinker with anything...too busy at work. If you've never flashed one, other than a rom update from a carrier (if yours is carrier locked), you'll need to do some reading. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Simple, straight forward steps on how to flash one.
I already knew what I needed, but ran the instructions step by step..."stupidly simple" as I like to call it. Once you get hard SPL changed,
flashing is the same (if you use the Rom Update Utility). It updates, reboots, and you are done.
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I chg's the rom on my Tilt from 6.0 to 6.1 and would like to do the same on my Fuze 6.1 to 6.5. Can this be done without reinstalling all my software or was it like the Tilt, start from scratch?
Start from scratch. One of the guys at work changed his tilt from 6.1 to 6.5 and loves it.
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I chg's the rom on my Tilt from 6.0 to 6.1 and would like to do the same on my Fuze 6.1 to 6.5. Can this be done without reinstalling all my software or was it like the Tilt, start from scratch?
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getting 6.5
Im very sure this is a noob question but how do I get WM 6.5? My AT&T Fuze (which is aparently the "raphael" ) I have 6.1 and whenever I use WM update it tells me I have the latest version. wtf. or is 6.5 even officialy out yet?
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Im very sure this is a noob question but how do I get WM 6.5? My AT&T Fuze (which is aparently the "raphael" ) I have 6.1 and whenever I use WM update it tells me I have the latest version. wtf. or is 6.5 even officialy out yet?
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It's not officially out yet as I understand.
The link posted within the quote from my post above will take you where you need to go for the 6.5 rom. I haven't done it yet and it was really painless on my Tilt when I had it.
I am assuming that this ROM doesn't contain the bloatware that we have to deal with in the official "AT&T" ROM. I mention this cause there was a little trick that had to be done in order to bypass the bloatware load. It really wasn't that tough although it did take me a coule of tries before I got it right.
If you haven't modified your phone much then just follow the instructions. If you've added software and other tweeks... you will have to reload them again (based on the reply from "p51d007").
If you need help this board is awesome. Also you can send me a PM and I'll try to help best I can.
while there was not a definitive WinMo 6.5 release, i didnt even consider moving to a 6.5 based ROM, but now that release date is closer, I´ve yet to see a pros and Cons of windows mobile 6.1 vs. winMo6.5.
I´ve a Diamond, so memory use is a concern.
i use manila 2.1 (hopefully 2.5 soon) so windows native dialogues are (nearly) over, and I dont need titanium WinMo6.5 native today UI.
Shall I move to 6.5 or stay with 6.1?
what advantages has a ROM based on 6.5 compared to a 6.1 ROM?
best regards
Amazed by nobody having a view into Win 6.1 vs 6.5!!!
I thought this thread would've actually been more popular... Lol.
sirgawain123 said:
I´ve a Diamond, so memory use is a concern.
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I'm not quite sure why you say that's a concern... According to Wikipedia, your Diamond has 192mb RAM (see this page), is that not true...? I'm running WM6.5 on my Elf with only 64mb RAM..
sirgawain123 said:
i use manila 2.1 (hopefully 2.5 soon) so windows native dialogues are (nearly) over, and I dont need titanium WinMo6.5 native today UI.
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As for M2D, I never really liked it much, so even with WM6.1 I never used it... I've gotten quite attached to the Titanium layout actually.. It's different, but it works well once you're use to it. Keep in mind I can only give you my opinions on upgrading.....
Pros
Easier navigation - Virtually any scrolling window can be 'dragged' up or down by dragging inside the contents instead of the scrollbar, makes it finger-friendly.
Speed - Obviously depending on who's ROM you install, many of them have had the really memory intensive applications and settings removed. This also depends on the device it was intended for; for my little Elf a lot was removed... But it's flying nicely.
PIN code prompt - I know it's minor, but every little bit counts; the PIN code prompt is always on top when the device starts up. With WM6.1 I had to invoke the 'phone' side sometimes just to put my PIN in.
Cons
Selecting files - Because of the tap-and-drag scrolling, you can't drag a selection box around a number of files in a window that scrolls.. If the window contents don't scroll, you can still do this though.
Compatibility - Many of the today screen plugins I used to use have had to be replaced with other apps; the WM6.5 today screen can be set to the old style (WM6.1), but it's your choice.
Other than those, I can't really think of much else that makes WM6.5 better or worse than WM6.1... The rest is really up to you to decide. For me, I'm more than happy with it and I have no intention of going back to 6.1 at all.
you got to try the cooked 6.5 roms to really know the BIG difference.
and you can still go back to 6.1 if you don't like it.
TheRem said:
you got to try the cooked 6.5 roms to really know the BIG difference.
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Too true... Try, try, and try again. Then try another one for good measure. Lol. I think I've changed between about 6 different ROMs in the last two weeks. I keep going back to Dsixda's Onyx ROMs though...
ZaLiTH said:
Too true... Try, try, and try again. Then try another one for good measure. Lol. I think I've changed between about 6 different ROMs in the last two weeks. I keep going back to Dsixda's Onyx ROMs though...
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Thanks prervious posters for sharing their views.
So the question would be, for a similar ROM tried with each of both cores, and disregarding the user interface preferences :
Is 6.5 lighter than 6.1?
Is 6.5 faster?
Is 6.5 more stable?
If there are three "yes"....i´ll move to 6.5!
If 6.5 is heavier on memory, but more stable and faster.....I´ll check if my device memory and aplication usage allows to move up.
if 6.5 is either slower or less stable....I´ll stay at 6.1 unless i fall in love with titanium UI!
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Is 6.5 lighter than 6.1?
Is 6.5 faster?
Is 6.5 more stable?
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the answer is NO to all three... it's still in BETA so lets just wait for the real thing that will come out on October 6.
Test 6.5 and decide for yourself!
I have 6.5 on my Universal with only 64mb of RAM and I´m quite happy with it, so do not worry and go for it!
If you donñt like it you can always go back
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the answer is NO to all three... it's still in BETA so lets just wait for the real thing that will come out on October 6.
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I'd have to agree with the first part of TheRem's post here... (nothing personal ) But go with orb300's suggestion:
orb3000 said:
Test 6.5 and decide for yourself!
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As I said, I'm running WM6.5 on my little Elf without any trouble.. Sure it's not quite as fast as some of the WM6.1 ROMs around here, but it's definitely faster than the standard ROM that came with the phone nearly a year back! Your Diamond should handle it a lot better with the higher amount of RAM available...
Either way, before you do any of that.... Make sure you install HardSPL first!! That way you'll still be able to flash a working ROM again if you find one that doesn't want to start up.
As somebody esle said, its all matter of personal preference. I think 6.5 is a bit sluggish than 6.1, but i cannot go back to using 6.1.
ai6908 said:
As somebody esle said, its all matter of personal preference. I think 6.5 is a bit sluggish than 6.1, but i cannot go back to using 6.1.
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well, the user interface can be a matter of personal preference.
But the slughiness or not of the underlying system is what counts here.
So far I´m used to TF3D and intend to keep there. There are cookers which are tying Manila on top of 6.1, while others are moving to 6.5. Same happens with Mobile Shell.
So, if you are not going to use the new tytanium UI of 6.5, is it worth the upgrade?
B/R
PS: regarding Beta Status of 6.5......IT should be over now. Thats why i´m questioning now, not when initial betas were leaked.