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I have 2 SPVC600 phones and one is not even 24 hours in standby before the battery goes empty, whereas the other phone is in standby several days. I tried several different "virgin" ROMs on both phones, several different batteries, still the same problem, one phone just sucks the energy out of the battery like crazy.
Anybody knows where the problem is and how it could be fixed?
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Pirondello
Same Here...
Hi, i know that this is a old thread, but... the same issue here, i have a T-mobile SDA, replace the original battery that come with the phone 2 years ago, this battery die and ebay a fresh battery again, but... nothing, goes empty in less than 13 hours with the fresh and new battery (with the old one at least 4 hours before die under nitrogen´s wm6 rom), any suggestion? (i clean the phone of programs, change roms, downgrade to original WM5 but... nothing, only 12 to 14 hours and empty ), the new battery is a "OEM ST26" from sanyo...
Until this day, my tornado was the more reliable and trust phone that i´ve had
Can you recommend me any procedure for test the phone... do you think that is a usb connection Issue, i read in a lot of threads that this could be Rom upgrade... ´coz the new drivers, componets, etc.... any help ir really appreciated
Greetings from Colombia...
Usually the original batteries are the best you can get. Even the (now very old) original ones (Sanyo ST26-C) still have their original capacity and I have not seen a single battery of these that has failed until now.
If you see such a drain from the device you could possibly disassemble the device and clean it. If that does not help - sad :-(
Does it make difference if you charge the battery on the device being off or while OS is running?
If you have volt-meter: what is th battery-voltage when empty/fully loaded?
Hi Tobbie, thanks for the reply, yeah, i follow all procedures for battery maintance, i try charge with the phone off, phone on (with radio turned on and off, really i only see a difference of only 1 1/2 hours...), this night i try clean with isopropilic alcohol the contacs between battery an phone and i see... i noted something peculiar:sometimes when i plug the AC Adapter or connecting to my desktop, the led indicator (in this case orange), dont turn on, sometime this led appars and dissapear passing 20 seconds but full charge the phone (i see this in seetings=> energy configuration => 100%)... other times this light is hold until this change to green (fully charged), but ever the same result, lees than 12 Hours... this happen with both batteries (old one and fresh buyed from a reliable seller 15 days ago...)
I download awhile the service manual for tornado but... Scare... i really love this phone, really i have now a LG Incite, but this phone is my "backup", coz all time buy and sell phones, but this since 2005 "sleep with me...", if after clean contacts i dont see any change or fix... No mercy with tornado´s LOL...
and i want with all neighborhoods a voltimeter, can you tell me about the standar values for this battery (my knowlodgement about electronics are limited a lot), i post my results here after my test...)
Thanks a lot, i hope that you can help me later (and sorry for my ugly english)
Greetings from Colombia
This sounds weird, but the only reasonable source of evil is that also your other battery (equally aged, but unused probably) is chemically dead. It hardly ever happens that the charge-electronics is going mad somehow. With the many Tornado that I had on my desk, not a single one had problems with this part. For some devices I have seen that the batteries were stone dead - and these behave as you describe it.
It looks as if the battery has lost its capacity. A fully charged battery has a capacity of roughly 1100 mAh. With a drain of ~75mA (for the fully lit display) this will last 14h and 40 minutes. So a similar power drain would have to suck the juice off the battery - which I doubt that anything will do. If you switched off all radio parts (GSM, WLAN + BT) there is nothing left that drains the battery like this.
You could try to check how long the batteries will last when you have the display light draining the battery additionally. For this part it is well known how much it drains (see above) - and if you see that the battery lasts half the time of what you said before - then the battery is ok and the device has some mysterious power drain. If however the battery only lasts a few minutes with this defined load - then it is surely dead.
Check the battery capacity link in my signature to get the tooling for measuring this easily.
Voltages should be measured with a digital Voltmeter if you have access to one. They are for dead batteries not much different to good ones if you do not apply load, but a fully charged LiIon has around 4,2 V and discharged in a Tornado around 3,55 V.
The Tornado will shut off at around 3,55 V but if the Voltage is much higher when removing the battery and measuring the Voltage - another hint for a dead battery.
Good luck
My apologies if I am here with the same complaint, but I tried searching this forum and found nothing that works for me.
Basically, I rooted and flashed CM 5.0.8 and I have been having battery issues. Now its not that my device is draining battery at a very fast rate (seems it is indeed doing that), but I suspect there is some problem with the battery meter.
So from all the stuff that I read, I decided to recalibrate the battery. I charged it up to full, until the green light went off, until the status showed 100%(full) and then some more. I then restarted into recovery(Amon-RA 1.7.0) and wiped the battery stats and rebooted back into CM, while having the charger connected at all times. Its worth noting however that during the time the phone was booting itself into recovery or into the ROM itself, the charging indicator stayed off. Thanks to that, when the phone booted into CM, the indicator was red for a few mins before it turned green (charge had dropped 99%)
Now I've done this 2-3 times, including letting the phone die due to an empty battery, but I am still getting very little life from the phone. For the record, I have the end button set to sleep and I don't have any continuously running widgets and my syncing apps (twitter) are set to sync only every 1 hour.
Anyway, again I don't think these apps are draining much battery, since once the battery dies down and the phone switches off (after light to moderate usage as compared to the life 1.6 Donut gave me), when I put it back to charge and turn the phone on after 5-10 mins of charge (while the phone is off), the meter shows a charge level of around 65%. So I suspect that the battery charge is at around 50-60% during when the meter reads it as around 1% and forces the phone to turn off.
I also tried switching on the phone after it had turned off, but it switches off immediately after booting (at least on 1.6, I could reboot it a couple of time on a 'dead' battery)
Are there any other tips that I can use to recalib my battery? Any idea will be much appreciated as my phone dies out each day before I can get back home and put it on the plug. Should I consider upgrading to CM6-RC1? Has it been proven that the battery performance is better on that?
Have u tried swapping out the battery with another one to isolate it to possibly the battery itself? Isolation is key, that way could it be ur extusb isn't charging correctly or is it the battery?
Well, I do have a spare - the one I saved from my bricked G1, but I haven't tried it out yet. The battery was working perfectly well just a few days ago when I had a stock Donut. So, I suppose it isn't a battery problem, but no harm in trying out the other one.
i had issues with my lithion battery and found out it happened to be on its last breathe. And with my spare i had it worked good. did u drop the battery at all? with lithium ion batteries can be as delicate as expensive china or porcelain. And to be honest the batteries that came with our g1's aren't really that good. If you can I would suggest getting an ext. battery from ebay. ive heard that fully discharging a lithion battery isn't the best practice either. I'm no expert just experience Best of Luck!
well...
reading the Cyanogen 5 thread I noticed at least 5 people with a broken battery...
for the record mine is broken too...
it's all swollen up... I mean, I can use it but it doesn't last a full day and it doesn't fit perfectly anymore in its slot inside the phone...
I'm starting to think that maybe for some reason flashing cyanogen 5 caused this issue, since so many people had this problem at the same time...
or maybe it's just a time defect of some stock htc batteries... who knows...
@GigiSpligi: Nono... don't blame CM for the swollen battery. Batteries tend to swell up after a lot of usage (charge discharge cycles). The battery on my old Nokia phone had swollen up after about 2 years of use. Similarly my friends E51 battery. Also my G1 batt seems to have swollen a little bit already. So nothing to do with the ROM.
Of course, if the ROM is making you charge frequently, then it is indirectly causing the effect on the battery.
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Should I consider upgrading to CM6-RC1? Has it been proven that the battery performance is better on that?
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The exact same thing happened to me ... actually on all ROMs now ... i'm gonna look into getting a new battery and sdcard which kinda sucks, but oh well. when i think about it, i wasn't have any problems till i started flashing sense based ROMs, especially Slide ROMs. so i must have done something wrong. i can't even make a phone call for longer than 10 mins before the phone shuts off and have to plug it back it into a charger just to get it to boot to the home screen
... hope there is a solution ... haven't read through this thread yet. just wanted to let you know you weren't the only one with the exact same problems
GigiSpligi said:
well...
reading the Cyanogen 5 thread I noticed at least 5 people with a broken battery...
for the record mine is broken too...
it's all swollen up... I mean, I can use it but it doesn't last a full day and it doesn't fit perfectly anymore in its slot inside the phone...
I'm starting to think that maybe for some reason flashing cyanogen 5 caused this issue, since so many people had this problem at the same time...
or maybe it's just a time defect of some stock htc batteries... who knows...
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@GigiSpligi: Nono... don't blame CM for the swollen battery. Batteries tend to swell up after a lot of usage (charge discharge cycles). The battery on my old Nokia phone had swollen up after about 2 years of use. Similarly my friends E51 battery. Also my G1 batt seems to have swollen a little bit already. So nothing to do with the ROM.
Of course, if the ROM is making you charge frequently, then it is indirectly causing the effect on the battery.
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hahaaha well that didn't take long to read ... yeah my battery is somewhat swollen and i did drop the phone once ... time for a new battery i guess ... sucks
[x-posted from Cyanogenmod forums]
Ah well... gonna have to pull out a new battery and see if that helps in anyway. I will have a look at the device usage stats to see if anything is causing unnecessary drain. Since there has been a drastic change in the battery life after the upgrade, I do not want to blame the battery itself yet. Guess some app is driving the phone nuts.
Ok, I was just seeing the battery usage history in spare parts and I there are some interesting usage stats there.
Network usage - While Market, Android System, Google, Calendar are around 1% - .5%, almost 100% of the usage has come from Media. I think this has been trying to keep the network alive throughout the time. I dunno if network means Data or just the voice network. The packages listed under Media are Camera(twice), DRM, Download Manager, Media Storage. Is there any reported issues with Camera or Media Player?
Also, Spare Parts says my Battery Health is Good. Is this a reliable indicator of the battery life?
I believe spare parts receives the battery info via "Testing" which comes stock on android. Let me know how the new battery works out cuz I want to research further when it comes to phone environment versus the actual battery itself.
I have same problem with my battery. I guess maybe battery life since it already use 1 half year. Anyway, who knows.
new battery
just picked up a brand new battery today. gonna leave it charging overnight. will report later on whether it fixes the problem with the random shutdowns
... on a side note, i think there has been a battery issue since CM5 correct? in my sig there is a recalibration method by xda member 'my_former_self' for those who have not read it and if your battery is still good to go ... worth a try
new battery
so it turns out my battery issues was in fact the battery. the new battery is working awesome. phone hasn't randomly shutoff on me all day with heavy texting, some youtube vids, mild internet browsing, and several apps ... 17+ hours later about 2% charge remaining. gonna run the battery through its conditioning cycle.
fyi i turned airplane mode on when i was in class ... approximately 2 hours
New battery it is
After spending over 4-5 days with the battery, I pulled out the spare that I had (with a couple weeks of usage) and installed that on my phone. Just to be safe, I drained the battery after some initial charging and ran it through this battery recalib method.
I did this yesterday morning after it being charged fully. I also installed SetCPU after recalibrating. Its run 2 full days of regular usage and I still have over 50% charge left. Ain't that cool or what? I think I will leave it uncharged tonight also and I guess it should last the whole of tomorrow as well. I don't think even the stock cupcake or donut lasted this long on a single charge. So in that case CM 5.0.8 has actually managed to up the battery life a lot (with SetCPU and, sleep on end).
Exactly how long does your battery last? It's no secret that CM5 (and any Eclair ROM) is just plain poor on battery life in these devices, even on my in-warranty Magic it chews through the battery about 25% faster than any Donut ROM such as Dwang, SuperD or CM4.
Seido sell extended batteries which fit in the original phone housing (unlike those ridiculous ones on eBay which have an extended back and turn your phone into a 2001-era brick), they seem to get good reviews, maybe give one of them a go.
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Exactly how long does your battery last? It's no secret that CM5 (and any Eclair ROM) is just plain poor on battery life in these devices, even on my in-warranty Magic it chews through the battery about 25% faster than any Donut ROM such as Dwang, SuperD or CM4.
Seido sell extended batteries which fit in the original phone housing (unlike those ridiculous ones on eBay which have an extended back and turn your phone into a 2001-era brick), they seem to get good reviews, maybe give one of them a go.
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Co-sign. I'm using one of their batteries and they work well.
This was my first real day with my LG E900, I am not really that pleased about battery life, I took it of the charger at 6am by 2pm it had about 30% battery left, that was with WiFi and Data turned of, no phone calls and just listening to the FM radio. Now had I these turned on it would of been dead by lunch time I am certain, I come from an iPhone, and that thing with WiFi etc on still had 40% battery left at bedtime, with WiFi of I could get 2 days out of it easily. I am on Mango if that makes a difference, I think this is easily the worst battery life I've seen on a phone especially when WiFi etc all turned of and I've been through iPhones, HTC, Galaxy S2's etc.
Is this normal or what am I doing wrong? Having owned Android phones in the past I already turn data etc of when not being used, dim screen, location services of etc.
Every battery needs to get used to the phone.
Do some full charge to 100 % and drain to till 20 % or less.
repeat this for 3 or 4 cycles. Then you battery will behave very nicely to you.
Also check whether your GPS is turned off.
some apps use your battery in the background. maybe one of them is the one that drains your battery. i discovered a few days ago that i had htc hub on some other like pulse. and there drain the battery too... there are many factors that drain the battery, the network is one of them... is it on GSM or 3G???
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some apps use your battery in the background. maybe one of them is the one that drains your battery. i discovered a few days ago that i had htc hub on some other like pulse. and there drain the battery too... there are many factors that drain the battery, the network is one of them... is it on GSM or 3G???
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Phone is on GSM as have no 3G coverage, I am hoping it'll take a few charges etc to get it going.
I bought two samsung discover 730m phones, put a SIM card in both of the same provider. Did not modify the stock ROM at all. The one phone lasts over a day with lots of use or up to 4 days with no use. The other lasts only 8 hours at most with no use, even less with use.
I swapped the batteries and determined it's the phone not the battery.
I have turned data off, bluetooth off, screen brightness down, installed a battery saving app, made sure syncing is off, and still it chews through the battery. Can this possibly be hardware related
Any suggestions of what else to try?
OK, so I've had my SM-P900 for about year now.
Suddenly just this week I am noticing my battery is draining considerably faster than usual and is also taking longer to charge. I was using a custom rom but have now switched back to the default 5.02 version that I installed via Kies.
So after a year do I really need to purchase a new battery?
I keep most everything off all the time and really haven't changed anything or how I use it in quite a few months so was wondering if I actually have to break down and purchase a new battery already.
Cheers
Read the threat : Flickering screen to see how to adjust the tip of battery cable closer in order to make better contact before replace a new battery, within one year the battery should still be good.
If you see the same thing with new battery, probably the battery connector has cracked solder joints and needs to be re soldered, common problem of Samsung tablets, not just only this model.
Lithium-Ion batteries generally last between 300-500 full charge cycles before they start losing power. A year is.. way too soon.
Does it also take longer to charge when the device is turned off completely?
In general a drain increase is caused by a software issue, mobile data or a bug. (or heat/cold.) (The difference between mobile data on and off with a 4G connection is 100-0% in deep sleep in 2 days with LTE, and 80 days in airplane mode.)
Signs of a dying battery include random discharges (it suddenly loses 30-70%, it's at 100 when you unplug and suddenly drops to 30%, or it's dead, you plug it in and turn it back on and it suddenly has 50% charge), random reboots and the device just not turning on at all for no apparent reason.
While it'll loose capacity eventually, that usually doesn't negatively affect the charging speed. (If anything it charges faster because it reaches 100% sooner.)
So assuming that I have a dead battery, is there a good replacement battery out there?
I have tried replacement batteries in the past and have found only subpar batteries on the market.
I bought a new battery on Amazon : 26$
This one is an original battery so at this price you should order one.
And about flickering issue, yes you should resolder connectors or changing the battery might solve this issue too (it worked for me)