[*28/09/08*] Polaris Driver Fix // Qualcomm MSM7200 - Touch Cruise General

[Updatestatus in 2nd Post] >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1826283&postcount=2
[INFORMATION]​
HTC has missed to include the necessary drivers needed for the Polaris to come to its full potential.
Handhelds affected are the Touch Cruise (POLARIS), TyTN II (KAISER), Touch Dual (NIKI) and the S730 (WINGS) etc., based on the MSM7200 and MSM7500 Qualcomm chipsets. The problem, however, isn't with the chips, but the missing drivers!!!
The engineers and technicians forgot to include the drivers. (That's ridiculous.) Or the company thinks consumers wouldn't notice.
[WHAT TO DO?]​
- Contact HTC and let them know you are unhappy about these issues
- Contact your mobile service provider and let them know you are unhappy with these issues
- Contact support.ati.com , as they must have a driver for their own chipsets
- Make videos of the issues
- Sign the petition >> http://www.petitiononline.com/tytn2vid/ << (TYTN2 uses same chipset as POLARIS)
- Spread the word
- Write reviews
[STATUS]​
HTC is aware of this problem and 'promised' a significantly performance-change in their WinMo 6.1 upgrade.
htcclassaction.org has successfully developed a 3D driver for the kaiser yet.
A port of these 3D drivers from the KAISER to the POLARIS are in progress by the Polaris Project P3D
>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426314 <<
**UPDATE**28/09/08
First release of the ported drivers, provided by the Polaris Project P3D
Get it here as .cab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430741
Full documentation about the issues are on
>>>>>> http://www.htcclassaction.org <<<<<<​
I will keep you informed about the Fix status, so if we reached our goal, you will find the drivers for the Polaris here.

**UPDATE**28/09/08
First release of the ported drivers, provided by the Polaris Project P3D
Get it here as .cab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430741
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**UPDATE**25/09/08
A Port by The 'Polaris Project P3D' team has begun and they had a breakthorough to fix the scrolling. Neos2007 created a cab which will be posted out to all testers on this project.
An updated video from Neos2007 of the non scrolling 3D acceleration can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58PFxhIVeE0
A Cab file has been generated by Neos2007 for testing FOR the team - we will release a Public Beta after some testing.
PLEASE DO NOT POST REQUESTS FOR THE CAB!
Full documentation here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426314
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**UPDATE**19/08/08
Updated driver package again
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080819_1
These drivers require a Kaiser (TyTN II) and a ROM based on the official HTC WM 6.1 update! It is extremely unlikely that these files will work out-of-the-box on the Polaris (at this time).
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**UPDATE**29/07/08
Updated driver package, full-screen and Manila
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080729_1
NO need to install directly on Bepe's last Roms for Polaris
The provided .cab isnt working for the Polaris as on Kaiser.
Installation is successfull, but the Light.exe to proove coudlnt initiate D3D.
This needs further modify!
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**UPDATE**18/07/08
OpenGL ES and D3D drivers (non-fullscreen) for the KAISER as .cab
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080717_1
NO need to install directly on Bepe's last Roms for Polaris
The provided .cab isnt working for the Polaris as on Kaiser.
Installation is successfull, but the Light.exe to proove coudlnt initiate D3D.
This needs further modify!
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**UPDATE**17/07/08
TyTN II now runs D3D too!
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080717_1
These Drivers for the Kaiser are a big step forward, as these could?! also be used but probably modified for the polaris.
Cookers, attention!
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**UPDATE**23/06/08
drivers update 2
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080623_1
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**UPDATE**22/06/08
- HTC TyTN II WM6.1 official ROM released
- HTC Diamond released
- drivers update
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080622_1
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**UPDATE**21/05/08
HTC's WM6.1 Update is here (?), ROM analysis and video driver news.
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080521_1
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**UPDATE**10/05/08
- All About Phones also confirms update is coming.
- MS Mobiles reports a fix for the TyTN II may be available as soon as next week.
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080510_1
and here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080509_1
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**UPDATE**09/05/08
MS Mobiles reports a fix for the TyTN II may be available as soon as next week.
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080509_1
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**UPDATE**28/04/08
HTC says update still coming
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080428_1
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**UPDATE**03/04/08
- HTC fails to deliver any update.
- Top hacker throws her weight in with porting the driver.
- P6500 may contain good drivers, hackers request ROM dump
(If you have a P6500, your help is needed!)
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080403_1
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**UPDATE**22/02/08
Drivers update - not a driver
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/responses.php#update_20080221
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**UPDATE**18/02/08
According to Fudzilla, Dr. Florian Seiche, vice president of HTC Europe, stated "Video acceleration drivers for HTC devices will see the light of the day"
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/responses.php#update_20080218
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**UPDATE**15/02/08
A response from Peter Chou himself (CEO of HTC) has surfaced saying they hope to release a driver at the end of March
Full documentation here:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/responses.php#update_20080214_2
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**UPDATE**13/02/08
seems we lost 2 weeks, but that doesnt matter!
The show must go on
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1915629&postcount=1203
**UPDATE**
its kinda last resort, but we are optimistic
Write support.ati.com a driver request
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**UPDATE**25/01/08
NO FIX but the updated CorePlayer 1.1.3 seems to play smoother because it takes advantage of Qtv video overlay API
NOTE: this software is not free! just for upgraders!!
Full documentation here:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=669.0
!!Ugraders please report if theres any improvement using this software!!
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**UPDATE**22/01/08
several htc support responses directs to a fix, that will be available soon
BUT
an 'official' htc response on DailyTech makes some confusion.
Full documentation about this on the bottom of the page:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/responses.php
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I wrote to HTC, but I could imagine people thinking: this won't help .... (I also believe that it won't help, but it won't hurt either).

manaaa said:
over 400 views and no comment
i guess you are all busy writing to htc ^^
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Yes because your Threads title is: Polaris Video Driver Fix.. I thought that you found a Fix.. I think i was not the only one... The other 399 too..

Please see and support http://www.htcclassaction.org !

isv51 said:
Yes because your Threads title is: Polaris Video Driver Fix.. I thought that you found a Fix.. I think i was not the only one... The other 399 too..
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true. i found no fix, but if there somewhen one exists, i ll post it here. this ISSUE needs attention,
http://www.htcclassaction.org

message sent to http://member.htc.com/CustomerService/CS_Mail.aspx

tea3 said:
message sent to http://member.htc.com/CustomerService/CS_Mail.aspx
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message sent to them....

isv51 said:
Yes because your Threads title is: Polaris Video Driver Fix.. I thought that you found a Fix.. I think i was not the only one... The other 399 too..
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... Correct.

It looks as if word is spreading. This article is in today's Register: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/01/17/htc_chipset_anger/
- Julian

Reply from htc after reporting
Good morning
We are very sorry to hear that your device is now faulty. Please contact us
(+39 0236003221) in order to get it fixed.
Please note that if the device is found to be mis-used in anyway such as
being
dropped, then the repair cost will not be covered by your Warranty.
Alternatively try a soft-reset and hard-reset after backing up your data
first.
We believe it is a hardware problem but this is worth a try.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do
not
hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
Giovanni Fiorilli
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com

i dont know whether to laugh or cry

CRY!
and then get angry!!!

htc must be retarded. its all about attitude in my book, and their attitude stinks

And try to get well motivated support personnel, well trained and informed... You'll be looking for a long time...

Signed the petition.
But I have to admit - the route demo on my device runs smoothly. Maybe not as smooth as on the Magician (cannot really compare), but is faster than the Kaiser on the youtube video. My old Prophet performs as the Kaiser on the video...

Complaint sent.
And also, can anyone give me a link for Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset. But please on Qualcomm website...

vasil said:
And also, can anyone give me a link for Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset. But please on Qualcomm website...
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hi,
here's what you searching for
http://www.qualcomm.com/iqsearch/index.html?iqname=MSM7200&x=38&y=3
but none of the links are working.
i wrote to >> [email protected] and reported it. lets hope its gonna be fixed as fast as possible. i guess theres more people that are interested in.
so far ..
bb

got my polaris today, and yeah - dissappointingly coreplayer video is really choppy.
I set the video output mode from direct draw to raw direct buffer and it now plays anything fine.
everyone probably knows that, but i didnt. i guess it makes things less of a b*stard?!

manaaa said:
hi,
here's what you searching for
http://www.qualcomm.com/iqsearch/index.html?iqname=MSM7200&x=38&y=3
but none of the links are working.
i wrote to >> [email protected] and reported it. lets hope its gonna be fixed as fast as possible. i guess theres more people that are interested in.
so far ..
bb
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It looks like they have this problem in court, so they removed all the information... I don't think writing to webmaster is going to fix anything...

Related

The Official WM6 Thread

Ok guys, so WM6 on Tornado exists (currently running on my device as we speak). But there are quite a few things we need to sort out before it can be released 'En Masse' Before this time I will ignore ALL PMs asking for the ROM.
There is a WM6 comments/suggestion/speculation thread HERE. Feel free to put in requests for embedded apps etc, but please realise we won't be able to put in EVERYTHING. So when the ROM is at a more completed stage we will draw up a shortlist for the apps etc to be embedded and let you vote it out
Current Issues:
Still has identifying build numbers etc to my source
Doesn't sync at all with a PC but will sync over exchange
It says WM5 with MSFP when its really WM6 (OS 5.2.xxx)
No Camera
No MMS
Issues fixed:
Wifi not accessable - new comm manager
No Office (fixed with a cab)
No t9 - updated to xT9 with 14 languages (fixed with a cab)
WLM is still beta and so needs removing and then updating (fixed with WLM RTM cab)
Things we need from a Tornado WM5 ROM
Camera.exe with all the mui extensions
Lets keep this thread clean, ok? I don't want sh!t loads of n00bs saying "where can I download ROM?". So, before you ask, here's my answer. YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD IT UNTIL ITS FINISHED!!!!
If a mod could remove such posts i'd be forever grateful
Please only post if you have information regarding how to fix the issues I've outlined above.
Phil
So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ .. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...
T9 now fixed, office added, WLM fixed
Phil
@sp3dev, unfortunatley i dont have ICQ, do you have an MSN email address?
Phil
isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.
sandman_06 said:
isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.
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I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!
you can fix activesync by replacing the usbfn.dll file.
sp3dev said:
So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ - 336030424.. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...
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Alex would you please tell me the new address of ronswens forum?
as usual, ronswens.jconserv.net. as for active sync, i remember those early builds missed actsync.dll.. but better give me the rom, i will use build 17xxx from excalibur and drivers, camera, t9 etc from wm5
Dishe said:
I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!
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Exactly, since day 1 I've been working with duke_stix to help get a working version of crossbow. However now that I've made some progress and actually HAVE a device myself to test on, I felt it was nessary to start a new thread dedicated to it rather than the old dump rom thread
@faria, will try this later, thanks for the advice
Phil
More info on the missing USB sync... under connections, 'USB isnt listed.
Idea's?
Phil
Camera Software
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps
will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?
sandman_06 said:
will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?
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seriously sandman,you are not helping!!! am sorry for ranting but like what the thread starter said NO NOOB posting!!! sheesh man!!! they are not "tweaking for performance" for crying out loud!!! they are cooking a wm6 rom!!!
How about we get the ROM fully functional BEFORE we start tweaking it
Phil
samyboy said:
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps
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Thanks alot for that samyboy
Looks like were getting there with regards to functionality
Also does anybody have the Arcsoft MMS client? I've been searching for a while now but no dice. Also could do with the default windows task manager as well.
Phil
Stuff
Maybe you can find some useful stuff here:
http://218.93.115.138/d900/
You can have the WIFI option appear on its current Comm Manager thru Registry.. i have tried it and it worked.. but anyway, glad the new Comm Manager worked also..
The new comm manager also has flight mode, beam and IP Phone buttons on it
Phil
I don't know if we have the same build or version jm012a9749 but the following bugs are present on mine..
"BETA" text on the homescreen
FIX:
HKLM - Software - Miscrosoft - Shell
DELETE - "DeviceBETA" key
You can't open the Sound in Settings (Settings - Sounds)
Culprit could be the file soundsgsm.cpl.xml on /windows/ directory
I just got my new Tornado again awhile ago, and hoping that i could help this team in any way..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=310380

Uprade for dummies? A few newbie questions.

Okay, I'm absolutely new to the PDA-Dev stuff. I'm a normal desktop software developer and I only use the PDA's as a normal user ;-)
I have the german T-Mobile branded MDA Pro.
So here are my first questions:
1.) Here in the forums we have a few threads about WM6 on the
- WM6 kitchen release
- Jwrightmcps Crossbow
- Final ULTIMATE - No Bugs HTC Universal WM6 ROM
- Universal WM6 Professional Rom
So, on a first look this is oabsolutely verwhelming. What is the right choice? In other words: When wanting to upgrade, what is the most stable version?
2.) What is this AKU stuff that's mentioned in nearly every post? I can't find a clear explanation of what this really is.
3.) I want to upgrade in a legal way. Loosing support on my MDA is not the problem, but I want a legally licenced WM6 on my pda. So where can I get that?
Are there any other hints, tips & tricks you would suggest for starting with that?
I think you on the wrong forum man!
You need Microsoft website
The only legal version of WM is WM5.
reed this
http://www.xda-developers.com/modules.php?name=News&file=showarticle&threadid=294142
1) Really, the only 'stable' ROM is WM5, WM6 will have some problems, but they are getting better.
2) I actually haven't figrude that one out yet... I assume its the version number or something... never really been important.
3) Short answer you can't, long answewr talk to t-mobile.I'm not aware of any carrier releasing WM6 for the universal, but for a legal upgrade you'd have to get it from your carrire (and most likely have them do it)
Okay.. well.. then.. hrm.. just ignore point three.
Back to point 1.) I do not want a rock stable WM6 on my MDA Pro. But when it comes to different WM6 versions/distributions to choose from, I want the most stable of them. So which one is the one to go for?
To Point 2.) I thought about some version numbering too, but I'm not pretty sure about that. But when it's not really important, why making the difference? ;-)
Is video call important to you?
There is still no known stable Video Call on WM6 yet except for the Video Call Beta by Jwright.
I think there is only 2 known source (correct me if I am wrong) of WM6 for Universal floating around in many forums. The one by Helmi (older AKU) & the one by Ivan (newer AKU). The rest are just variants of this 2. With Plus & Minus features, some bug fix, etc.
CWKJ said:
Is video call important to you?
There is still no known stable Video Call on WM6 yet except for the Video Call Beta by Jwright.
I think there is only 2 known source (correct me if I am wrong) of WM6 for Universal floating around in many forums. The one by Helmi (older AKU) & the one by Ivan (newer AKU). The rest are just variants of this 2. With Plus & Minus features, some bug fix, etc.
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There are 3 bases:
The "Old" base (helmi 0.1, midget 0.1[.1], JWright, etc)
Ivan's new ROM (Ivan V1,2,3)
Midget's new ROM (Midget 1.0, Ivan's customisation of Midget, PDAViet (Latest)
My recommendation (and I think this is the fourth, possibly fifth, time I've said this - grab all the ROMs that are stickied to the forum - and test them all. If you're concerned about stability during your tests then get a spare phone to use.
And if you're trully concerned about stability and legality - stick to your vendor's version of WM 5
PhoenixHawk:
I 'was' in the exact same position as you. I'm a software developer, have never upgraded a ROM before and all these "Crossbow", "WM6 Final", "WM6V3.??", "No Bugs", "Final", etc, etc, had me somewhat scratching my head.
In a total nutshell, I did the following:
1
Followed this guide : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tion On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method
(i.e., downloaded WinRar, and "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe")
2
Downloaded the first RAR file from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305512
3
When part 2 had downloaded, I copied the "MaUGradeUt_noID.exe" into the "NOCID_RUU_flasher_xda-devs" directory which is from the extracted RAR file.
4
Copied the "nk.nbf" file from the "Uni_WM6_v3_Ivan" directory into the "NOCID_RUU_flasher_xda-devs" directory from the extracted RAR file.
5
Double-clicked "MaUGradeUt_noID.exe" in the "NOCID_RUU_flasher_xda-devs" directory.
6
Started to worry as the program flashed my ROM.
Some 10 minutes later I had a fully working, zero problem HTC Universal running what looks to be a rock-solid stable version of Windows Mobile 6.
Hope this messages, coming from someone who has never done anything like this before is both easy to follow, 'n00b proof' and proof that it can be done from someone with zero-experience.
I'm sure there's a load of pro's and con's in which ever ROM is downloaded, but I took the chance at what I thought would be an easy to follow option, read as much as possible and it seems to have paid off.
Hope this helps,
J
TehPenguin said:
CWKJ said:
Is video call important to you?
There is still no known stable Video Call on WM6 yet except for the Video Call Beta by Jwright.
I think there is only 2 known source (correct me if I am wrong) of WM6 for Universal floating around in many forums. The one by Helmi (older AKU) & the one by Ivan (newer AKU). The rest are just variants of this 2. With Plus & Minus features, some bug fix, etc.
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There are 3 bases:
The "Old" base (helmi 0.1, midget 0.1[.1], JWright, etc)
Ivan's new ROM (Ivan V1,2,3)
Midget's new ROM (Midget 1.0, Ivan's customisation of Midget, PDAViet (Latest)
PhoenixHawk said:
Okay.. well.. then.. hrm.. just ignore point three.
Back to point 1.) I do not want a rock stable WM6 on my MDA Pro. But when it comes to different WM6 versions/distributions to choose from, I want the most stable of them. So which one is the one to go for?
To Point 2.) I thought about some version numbering too, but I'm not pretty sure about that. But when it's not really important, why making the difference? ;-)
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My recommendation (and I think this is the fourth, possibly fifth, time I've said this - grab all the ROMs that are stickied to the forum - and test them all. If you're concerned about stability during your tests then get a spare phone to use.
And if you're trully concerned about stability and legality - stick to your vendor's version of WM 5
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Your answer should be like above.
PhoenixHawk need the second part, not me.
I thought Midget's was derived from Ivan's, so I was wrong.
@J
You are right, once you get the first working, you can read on or try as many until you are happy with one.
I'll give it a try.
I don't have a spare phone, so my regular one will have to keep up with me ;-)
But first things first: Currently I have some problems getting my MDA Pro syncing with my Vista client. The mobile device center just won't recognize my pda when it's connected. And I can't start about thinking flashing the rom until that's not working... anyone a clue?
PhoenixHawk said:
I'll give it a try.
I don't have a spare phone, so my regular one will have to keep up with me ;-)
But first things first: Currently I have some problems getting my MDA Pro syncing with my Vista client. The mobile device center just won't recognize my pda when it's connected. And I can't start about thinking flashing the rom until that's not working... anyone a clue?
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Take some advice (I didn't listen, thought I was better than everyone else and ending up bricking my phone everytime).
Do NOT use Vista. For the sake of an hour's additional work in either installing another harddrive or swapping it temporarily, do everything within an XP environment.
Trouble free.

Kaiser graphics accel, possible solution (got manila running on kaiser)

I've been playing about for a couple of days now with this graphics acceleration problem.
Yesterday i was trying out different DLL's and editing the registry, and i had put "libGLES_cm.dll" and "libGLES_cm.lib" into my windows folder. Today i was trying to install manila as many people have not been able to get it to work, it installed fine and then I clicked the "tap to start HTC home" on the homescreen and it asked me to allow "libGLES_cm.dll" and it is running.
However, it's a bit disproportioned and very very slow (0.75FPS).
I think it may be needing some more missing DLL's and the registry might need tweaking.
Also without libGLES_cm.dll (as the device is shipped) Manila fails to initialise. so HTC must have some sort of OGL drivers that they are using, but not supplying for Kaiser.
I used Vincent 3D libGLES: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ogl-es/ogles-bin-1.0.0.zip?modtime=1144798031&big_mirror=0
and Heres a link for Manila: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G5X13UZF
I'll try get a screenshot up in a minute but my kaiser's being a little slow now.
I'll try work on this more see what i get.
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Sorry, accidentally posted in the wrong section
Reposted in correct section, can a mod or admin delete this one please?
If you read the other Manilla thread you would know that Manilla is VGA. All of the icons need to be resized for QVGA. GLES is not enabled on the Kaiser so you can call for the dll all you want, but you still won't get any accleration or 3d out of it.
All of these possibilities have been investigated for acceleration &/or 3D.
As for Manilla, there is an effort & some progress being made in the other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363500
I suggest that is probably the place to post your willingness to help/investigate in the effort to get it converted to QVGA & to spped it up.
As for acceleration & 3G I would look at some of the info Chainfire has posted as he has invested at least 100 hours into the effort.
I understand that but my point was that the libGLES_cm.dll is currently working on my device so there must be someway of getting acceleration, i was just posting so that others could look at this and possibly find a way to get gFx acceleration, screenshot on the thread i posted in the correct section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364459
dariushuntly said:
I understand that but my point was that the libGLES_cm.dll is currently working on my device so there must be someway of getting acceleration, i was just posting so that others could look at this and possibly find a way to get gFx acceleration, screenshot on the thread i posted in the correct section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364459
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Isn't that just a software driver.
I can emulate DX10 feature in software, still doesn't give me any hardware acceleration... since it's software you know.
Yes it is software, it's the library containing the what is needed for OpenGLES to run, i could be wrong but seeing as it's needed by manila, it shows that HTC is planning to impliment a driver in the future.
Also i think it shows a possible sign for getting acceleration onto the kaiser
Just a thought, any chance someone has a LG KS20 dump?
Rom and registry?
i downloaded the dump off the FTP but it seemsto be corrupt as file sizes don't match up.
Thanks
LG has the same problem. Chainfire also pulled out the KS20 drivers & tried porting/rewritting to Kaiser with no luck.
As for th ogles, I think that manilla is looking for it & finding it yes. But obviously there is still no acceleration as evidenced by the FPS rate. The portion of the chip that would optimize/use the dll's is either not there or is deactivated. I tried calling for ogles in other proggies with some luck as to function, but performance has never changed or has always worsened. So yes, it's the library, but it has no effect on the hardware needed to support the ogles.
I really don't think you can look at this app as any proof that HTC plans to use any acceleration on the Kaiser because this was clearly not written for the Kaiser. It's VGA after all.
Believe me, there are few more than me that would like to see this pulled off, especially by a forum member, since HTC says it's way to hard of a process for them to pull off any time soon. But after many long months off following & conversing w/ chainfire, it's still nothing more than a dream & chainfire is the guy that has brought us some of the most amazing features for our WM6 devices not to mention the dynamic duo cmonex & olipro.
I hope you prove me wrong in spades, I'd like nothing better than to see "dariushuntly" hoisted up on our shoulders as the acceleration saviour.
manila youtube vid
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7064.html
dariushuntly said:
Yes it is software, it's the library containing the what is needed for OpenGLES to run, i could be wrong but seeing as it's needed by manila, it shows that HTC is planning to impliment a driver in the future.
Also i think it shows a possible sign for getting acceleration onto the kaiser
Just a thought, any chance someone has a LG KS20 dump?
Rom and registry?
i downloaded the dump off the FTP but it seemsto be corrupt as file sizes don't match up.
Thanks
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What makes you think this was ever meant for any MSM7X00-based devices?
I spoke with HTC PR in Sweden recently about an official upgrade to TouchFLO for the Kaiser. (Ie if the cube was destined for Kaiser devices) and the answer was no, no planned upgrades to touchflo functionality.
Ie no official cube, much less Manilla. In other words it pretty much has nothing to do with a future driver update.
Sorry if you think it's negative or that I'm rude, I just think it's better to be realistic about this issue and try to get it solved rather than to rely on a pipedream.
The only thing it really does confirm is that future HTC devices will have HW accelerated graphics and drivers.
undac said:
The only thing it really does confirm is that future HTC devices will have HW accelerated graphics and drivers.
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And VGA.

Slow PIE Scrolling? Similar to Dual?

Hey guys. Does the TC suffer from the same slow scrolling in PIE as does the Dual?
Check out the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHOS7tE3AZM&eurl=http://www.pocketpc-live.com/
If so, there are a couple of reg hacks to improve scrolling....do they help?
I also saw this thread, which basically improves the PIE engine for smoother scrolling. Has anybody applied it to their TC?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337521
Thanks.
Why waste your time on PIE if it already comes with Opera pre-installed
Let me make this clear about all the "problems"you read about the TC. It is not worse than any other WM device in actual use We were expecting a super device from it that is why there are so many complaints here
victoradje, did you read the specs of the MSM7200 chipset? That's a fact that it should be a better device.
Yep the same as the Kaiser was at the beginning
We will have to wait until we can start cooking to see ROMs with this fix applied, in the meantime I attach a cab from the Kaiser threads which I have installed and works perfectly.
christonge said:
Yep the same as the Kaiser was at the beginning
We will have to wait until we can start cooking to see ROMs with this fix applied, in the meantime I attach a cab from the Kaiser threads which I have installed and works perfectly.
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Hey christonge. Great job. Thank you very much. This cab makes my Polaris (German Orbit2) now perfect. What a shame to HTC for this bug.
I second this!! Helps for better scrolling on my Orbit2 even in email
and other apps! Cool
Olioaglio
christonge said:
Yep the same as the Kaiser was at the beginning
We will have to wait until we can start cooking to see ROMs with this fix applied, in the meantime I attach a cab from the Kaiser threads which I have installed and works perfectly.
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does it work with Opera too? or its only a IE fix?
it would be appreciated if a .cab can resolve this scroll issue... please find a .cab with the driver into please eheh
This problem affects more than just a few phones.
Check out: http://www.htcclassaction.org/
It's a problem with the Qualcomm MSM7200 and MSM7500 chipsets, HTC never wrote a proper driver for video draw, we actually have the power to do much more with our phones. (I have a Titan)
Check out the video and sign the petition, HTC has been dancing around this problem for too long.

[ROM][WWE] Elf/Elfin-Letama v2 WM6.5 [ONLINE]

Letama V2 by Letama
Windows Mobile 6.5 Beta
OS: 5.2.21139 (BUILD 21139.5.0.0)
(For Elf and Elfin - HTC Touch GSM only)
Warning: Its just a leaked beta version of WM6.5 and not the final version, Flash at your own risk.
Admin edit: Images removed due to copyright complaint from microsoft.
Thanx to melih43 for the screenshots.​
Features:
New features
* Internet Explorer 6
* Outlook Live
* New Titanium home screen
* New smooth scroll
* Word - Excel - Powerpoint 6.5
* Much speedier than WM6.1
New features of Internet Explorer 6
* When you write a web page adress, it completes the adress and suggest you some
* copy / paste
* mobile / desktop features.
* flash compitable
* You can watch youtube over IE6.
Changes in V2:
- New Today Screen and IE already cooked, no need to install cabs.
- Regular OEM stuff inside with Camera working
- WMPlayer fixed. It was already in the previous rom in fact, but shortcut was not the right one.
- AutoRun is working
Oem Packages removed:
2DManila
2DManila_0409
AdobePDF
AdobePDF_0409
CyberonVoiceCommander
CyberonVoiceCommander_0409
HTCGesture
HTCGesture_0409
HTCHomePlugIn
HTCHomePlugIn_0409
JBlendJava
JBlendJava_0409
TouchFlo
TouchFlo_0409
YouTube
YouTube_0409
ZIP
ZIP_0409
DOWNLOAD LINK FOR LETAMA V2:
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LETAMA V1:
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Some Fixes:
Letama Home clock hotfix
HTC Camera CAB for V1
Letama's Kitchen Directories:
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Full Kitchen:
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quoted e-mail from microsoft:
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i am waiting for this...
im looking forward to see onyx or tess with windows 6.5 but the final version, i dont trust microsoft betas.
however as far as i can see we wont get anything new, just a very very little improvement on the interface but with manilla installed there is not much point for it.
all what i want is the new scrolling
lol
hope we'll c a new elf rom with the 6.5
go our rom cookers
Great.
Thumbs up for this idea.
Yes, I agree and i await for 6.5
Probably Onyx can come out with somrthing like, Onyx Alpha or something.
That will be cool.
But always remember, Family First.
Go out with your family, and balance it.
matiii777 said:
all what i want is the new scrolling
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gwes.exe from 20769 built already has new MS scrolling and as for me it's much better than default HTC scrolling.
skauk said:
Just wondered if anyone was cooking with the leaked beta of Windows Mobile 6.5 ??
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Hello All,
I ported it to Elf to have a look at the new stuff.
A bit of warning: It's very rough, and my port is even uglier, it could brick your device or not boot. Flash at your own risk.
You probably need a recent patched SPL to be able to flash it as it's very small (<50M).
It works fine on my Elf, not sure about Elfin. Pagepool is way too high for Elf in my taste. After installing cabs and reboot, the new Home and IE are working.
Don't expect much support on this, I'm not a cook and my main phone is a diamond, I did it just to have a preview.
You can find it here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O3I7H58R
LeTama
BOB has made it for kaiser. Nice & fast one. A blend of 6.1 & 6.5.
Nice to try, see kaiser ROM upgrade section.
I thought the 6.5 ROM was a beta.
So the final is flying on the net now?
Anyway I hope someone can cook a great/stable 6.5 for Elf
no final one is still not on the ground but it seems we will very soon may get it.
So what's the big difference between 6.1and 6.5?
Is it just performance, like 6.1, or is it more finger-friendly => which was for WM7, isn't it?
Getting Confused now
But i'll wait for the 6.5
Zune integration?
Does 6.5 really come with Zune integration?
letama said:
Hello All,
I ported it to Elf to have a look at the new stuff.
It works fine on my Elf, not sure about Elfin.
You can find it here:
Admin edit: Link removed due to copyright complaint, see first message.
LeTama
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Works on my elfin, thanks
sure that it is a beta?
looks too good on my elfin
wmp missing
****head said:
So what's the big difference between 6.1and 6.5?
Is it just performance, like 6.1, or is it more finger-friendly => which was for WM7, isn't it?
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Well, I can't comment on performance, it's really speedy on the Elf but the pagepool is big, I will have to check with my usual pagepool to compare. I heard that the 211xx OS are speedier though.
If what we have is real 6.5, a few things have been added, especially a new today screen and a slide to unlock replacement for regular unlock (see screens attached).
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Does 6.5 really come with Zune integration?
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The leaked rom didn't have anything like this, however the graphics seem to get inspiration from Zune.
miky6682 said:
sure that it is a beta?
looks too good on my elfin
wmp missing
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Yes, saw that wmp was not in the build, maybe to make room for the famous zune integration later, I don't know.
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Great!
Can't way to have this!
letama said:
Well, I can't comment on performance, it's really speedy on the Elf but the pagepool is big, I will have to check with my usual pagepool to compare. I heard that the 211xx OS are speedier though.
If what we have is real 6.5, a few things have been added, especially a new today screen and a slide to unlock replacement for regular unlock (see screens attached).
The leaked rom didn't have anything like this, however the graphics seem to get inspiration from Zune.
Yes, saw that wmp was not in the build, maybe to make room for the famous zune integration later, I don't know.
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Thx for your answers
But honestly...what's pagepool?
I read it everywhere, but I don't know what it does (dumb!)
And it looks like HTC Manila, but instead scrolling from left to right, it's from top to down.
****head said:
Thx for your answers
But honestly...what's pagepool?
I read it everywhere, but I don't know what it does (dumb!)
And it looks like HTC Manila, but instead scrolling from left to right, it's from top to down.
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Pagepool is a cache in memory to speed up things. The value is fixed during cooking, from 4 to 24M, the higher it is the quicker is your device. But as Elf has only 64M, I used to keep it low on my device.
I didn't check the pagepool on the 6.5 build, but it has 46.90 Mb total, meaning that pagepool is probably 12 or 16M.
elfin ROM with WM 6.5
skauk said:
Just wondered if anyone was cooking with the leaked beta of Windows Mobile 6.5 ??
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gagandeepbains said:
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http://rapidshare.com/files/188666307/TouchII__3_10_710_69__WM6.5__B21139.rar
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Elfin Rom already?? Hows the stability? does it work fine on our elfins?

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