Bluetooth PAN client - General Topics

I've got desktop PC with Linux and bluetooth but without WiFi so I am using BT PAN network access point service on the desktop PC and BT PAN client on my notebook to connect wireless when at home. Both are BT 2.0+EDR so the speed is about 3.0Mbps.
I've got Hermes with WM6 5.2.1933 and MS BT stack.
Is there a way I can connect to Internet over BT PAN?
I know there is some bluetooth PAN support as it can be used in Internet sharing but I haven't figured out how to connect to existing BT PAN network.
Any advice?

it's not for linux but you should read this one
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork

Thank you, it looks promising, I was able to find my bluetooth PAN interface and setup IP and DNS for it but I am unable to find any "Join a personal network" button in my bluetooth settings.
Where can I find the damn button?

OK, so just to close the topic...
the problem is in MS bluetooth stack which doesn't support bluetooth PAN client profile. The only solution for now is to install cracked Widcomm bluetooth stack on devices which originally came with the MS one. The project for this can be found on XDA wiki.
Current status for the Hermes (my sweety) is that you can make it work, can have BT PAN client but some other things doesn't work correctly (bt on/off in comm manager, bt audio profile doesn't work very well, ...).

What bout use WM6 with Internet haring Feature, that's all the stuff related to sharing internet using Bluetooth.
Regards,
Taguapire.

Internet Connection Sharing is the other way around: you can use your WM6 device as a PAN access point, and the PC (e.g. a notebook) is the PAN client.
KOPRajs, you can use ActiveSync over Bluetooth. On the PC you need SynCE (http://www.synce.org/). The wiki there is currently under construction, and I can't find anything about Bluetooth now, but there's a Howto for Ubuntu over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50932 .

Thx, I have actually SynCE working (even over bluetooth) but I was unable to set up MS proxy (or whatever it is) so even when it's connected, apps on the phone do not know about active connection and tries to dial up a GPRS instead of using Active Sync connection.
And more, the whole SynCE thing is highly unstable yet so that's why would be nice to use BT PAN client.

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PAN and access to internet

I've Make a Personal Area Network and it has been hard..for me. I've used Bluesoleil bluetooth stacks (PDA) and Widcomm 4.0.1.700 for USB Bluetooth (PC). Using resco explorer i can browse and use my "lan"...play mp3, video in streaming, open photo...the only thing i can't do is browse the http with internet explorer. I Just want to Use my bluetooth like a wifi-lan, but the only way i have to do so is to use PAN for the file and Connect via bluetooth-com port to activesync to obtain an access to Internet.
Is there a way to directly access internet with the PAN? I really don't want to use activesync for that.
Thanks for all.
Hi Lyka,
I haven't tried the Bluesoleil BT stack on my MDA Compact yet, but I just bought a D-Link DBT-900AP, a so called Bluetooth Access Point with the BT PAN-profile. It costed "only" euro 50, not that expensive.
I can now surf from my PC and laptop via BT, but then I found out that the MDA Compact fails the PAN-option.
Hope to back-up my MDA and try that BT stack from Bluesoleil soon.
Greetings, Ben...
lyka
lyka, i manage to connect the PAN in bluesoleil (wdcomm BT in pc) but i cant see any shared file in res explorer (in network). do i have to change some setting under res. or under bluesoleil? HELP PLSSSS thanks
on the pc would have most likely have to make a user matching what your pda identify itself as for it to get access to shared things
total commander is an ok tool to brows networks with
Lyka, it's easy to get internet via PAN...do this:
- go to your windows network adapters and bridge your "local area network adapter" with your "bluetooth network adapter".
- On the widcomm bluetooth configuration icon (located on windows systray) select "configure" -> local services tab -> PAN -> properties. Make shure that you have the option "allow other users to use this connection for internet" selected.
- Connect your PDA to the PAN.
There you go - Internet.
Do note that sometimes (At least on mine), you don't get an IP for the PAN...the trick is to initiate the PAN and then initiate the LAN. Disable the lan after you get an ip. (Check the status icon on the bluesoleil stack so to make shure that you got an ip)
eviltart2, i've some problems with PAN when the phone uses the Blusoleil stack and the pc uses a widcomm stack...sometimes you don't get an IP...check if you're getting one. If not, then initiate the LAN connection and disconnect it afterwards (do note that some bluetooth adapters (old ones) don't support the LAN connection - only pan..)
Keeper
hi all.. i also tried blusoleil on my jam, but had to uninstall it because it didn't recognize my bt earplug (a plantronics 220) as a valid headset.. it paired the device, but didn't find any services for it.. anyone had the same problem? solutions?
sdalleave, the blusoleil stack doesn't support bt audio adapters (mono or stereo). You need to install the widcomm stack instead of the blusoleil one.
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sdalleave, the blusoleil stack doesn't support bt audio adapters (mono or stereo). You need to install the widcomm stack instead of the blusoleil one.
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ok, so if i understand correctly, i need the widcomm stack on the jam.. is it reversable like blusoleil or do i need to reset the jam to remove the bt stack if i don't like it? do you have a link to where i can find the widcomm stack?
thanks..
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sdalleave, the blusoleil stack doesn't support bt audio adapters (mono or stereo). You need to install the widcomm stack instead of the blusoleil one.
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hey keeper (are you the keeper from BF2142 that's in my buddy list??)
i've done some searching on the widcomm stack, but only found threads where they say it's not working on a magician.. is that true? do you have some link to someone who's actually done it?
thanks
I'm sorry for misleading you guys...there's no widcomm support for the magician...what i meant was a modded MS bluetooth stack with A2DP support which is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249219&highlight=a2dp+bluetooth
Do note that this stack ain't reversible, but you can install the bluesoleil one and use the "switch bluetooth stack" so to change between the modded one and the bluesoleil one. Also, do note that you need to reboot your PDA so that the stack changes from one to the other.
sdalleave: nah..i'm not that person...
Regards,
Keeper

Bluetooth PAN?

Lo, just got my treo 750 and can use activesync to get a bluetooth internet connection, but I've a bluetooth access point in the office, and when I try to connect to it its seems to pair, but doesn't show as offering any services.
I've (slowly) figured out that the Treo's BT doesn't appear to support PAN, is there any way to add it?
I think that this comes with the AKU3 firmware update.

BT PAN and HP nc6400 laptop

Anybody have an HP (Compaq) nc6400 laptop? It has built-in BT but doesn't appear to support PAN. WOuld the best idea be to buy a BT Dongle that does support it adn turn off the built-in one?
Prob is BT Stack
I had an HP NC6200 and the problem is in the BT Stack. Remove the software that came with the HP and install the MS drivers/stack and once the install completes, the option to "Join a Personal Area Network" will be available.
Just an aside....i dont prefer the MS BT Stack but in this case I know it works because my Dell has a Toshiba BT Stack and I had to do the same thing. Widcomm BT Stack is my preference.
Brad
OK, thanks for your help. Will give it a go. i guess the MS drivers are available on the MS site?
uninstalled the HP bt software but not sure where to find or how to install the MS stack?
OK, I've given up on the in-built BT. Got a BT USB dongle and Blue Soleil. Now PAN works and I can use my Hermes as a 3G modem.
good so far....
but how do you get ActiveSync to work over BT? Is it possible?
It would be much cheaper and easier just to download/buy Bluesoleil software from IVT - it works with all dongles, also with BT device you have inside your HP laptop.
yeah - it works with my dongle but not with the inbuilt device.
How do i get ActiveSync to work over BT?
If you disconnect the new dongle and install fresh demo from IVT website, Bluesoleil and then activate the built-in BT, it will work. Until you will buy license, there will be 5MB data limit.
I use BlueSoleil it with my built-in dongle from HP (nc6000).
ActiveSync is possible using virtual COM port on Bluetooth. There is sometimes ActiveSync service in some Bluetooth stacks, but I think IVT doesn't support it. If you want to use BT directly, you might need to switch to MS Bluetooth or Widcomm stack. Don't ask me how - never used MS stack.
BTW: there should be update for your Widcomm stack for your laptop - I think Bluetooth PAN is now standard (but painful to use with Widcomm).
When I try this the HP Wireless assistant takes over and BlueSoleil says "please insert your BT device".
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OK, no probs. I put it in Hermes WM6 because of the requirement for Internet Sharing after I upgraded to WM6 and therefore needed PAN but I accept that it is more of a general issue

[Q] Share WiFi over bluetooth pan?

Hi,
Is it at all possible to share my smartphone/pocket pc wifi connection over BT?
The only threads I've seen relate to sharing cellular over Wifi (like turning your phone into an access point - not quite what I'm looking for
Any help would be much appreciated, thanks
mcwtrekkie said:
Hi,
Is it at all possible to share my smartphone/pocket pc wifi connection over BT?
The only threads I've seen relate to sharing cellular over Wifi (like turning your phone into an access point - not quite what I'm looking for
Any help would be much appreciated, thanks
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I'm looking for the same thing, i think...
I want to share a internet connection like this:
wifi AP ----wlan----> htc touch diamond ----bluetooth----> PC
Is it possible?
Tnx
im too looking for this, I have a laptop with bluetooth but without wifi.
Anyone found anything?
Sharing Internet on Windows Mobile device, with BT clients
I am looking for this as well. I have a laptop with no WiFi, but with BT, and a WM6 HP 211 iPaq. I would like to connect the iPaq to the Internet using WiFi (easily done), then share the Internet connection through Bluetooth, with my WinXP SP2 PC.
I have paired the devices. For example, I can do ActiveSync synchronization via BT between my PC and the iPaq.
"Netwok Access" connection via BT between iPaq and PC seems OK as well.
Still, when I go to "Internet Sharing" on the iPaq, the "PC Connection" field shows only "USB", it does not show "BT PAN".
Can anyone help? many thanks in advance
Gail
WMWifiRouter can do Wi-Fi to USB, but not BT at this time. It is coming up, though.
It is meant for PocketPC though, though it can work on Smartphone the experience is not as good.
could be useful as a kind of repeater
Ive been looking for an app to turn HTC Fuze into a Wi-Fi repeater, but I have bluetooth on my laptop so this would in effect be a signal repeater for me. The bottleneck from wifi to bluetooth would be pretty heavy though Im sure.
ICS Control
I discovered an app that seems to be able to do what you are asking for and most every other network sharing combo you can imagine. Its called ICS Control. It would be great to have a repeater app.
Bluetooth connectivity drops when WLAN is on
Hi guys
I have an iPaq 210 that I'd like to use as a WiFi card for an WinXP SP2 PC.
Here's my problem, which often happens (not always):
1. I turn on Bluetooth on the iPaq
2. I connect the PC to the iPaq using the "Explore my Bluetooth Places" wizard, then "Connect". It says "connected". Then on the XP "Network Connections" window, it says "acquiring network address", and shortly after: "connected". PC's IP address: 192.168.1.125, default gateway (the iPaq): 192.168.1.6. In fact, I've setup this static IP address on the iPaq using the ICScontrol utility. Both computers see each other and ping works both ways. In other words, BT PAN is up and working.
3. Here's the problem: I then turn on the WLAN (Wi-Fi). When the WiFi connects, ping stops working. Then I can't get to the Internet from the PC using the iPaq. "Network connections" still says: "connected" on the BT PAN network.
When I disconnect the WLAN, BT ping starts working again.
What to do?
TIA
Gail
dont really know how to fix this
Re: Bluetooth connectivity drops when WLAN is on
Can this point the way? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972305 ?
The problem is, that fix is for the system builder. Can someone suggest a registry setup or anything else?
damn, looking exactly for this
wanna use my touch hd with a bluetooth only netbook
hope someone can do it
btw, wmwifirouter seems the closest to do it
can do 3g to bt, but wifi only to usb
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D2G wlan0 - bnep0
On the topic of reverse tether heRe
Ubuntu netbook and Droid 2 Global
Yes the 3g connection works, turn on wifi and
it seems to fall apart. I think there might be
some ip conflicts or I could use a bridge adapter
or something on my droid phone that is configurable,
maybe like br0 for an interface name.
sounds good to me.
what exactly happens when wifi is turned on
ifdown ppp0 ?
ifup tiwlan0 ?
thats exactly what appears to happen first ppp0 there and tiwlan0 not then, touch icon and run ifconfig -a again and it is now the opposite. All ifb interfaces unchanged..
both bnep0 and tiwlan0 on same subnet and have different ip, but tiwlan0 gets dhcp and bnep0 I believe is static.. A routing table could help.
Do I need to add new modules? can this be configured?

bluetooth pan problems on osx 10.5.8

so i got a HTC touch and i can pair the bluetooth for a program called sailing clicker (remote for itunes vlc and other apps) and i can ftp, but i cant share the internet.
when i select wanting to use the internet it wants me to put in a user/pass and phone model setting it up like a dialup connection. which isnt suppose to happen its supposed to use bluetooth pan
but bluetooth pan stays disconnected even if i select connect to network for the bluetooth device.
anyone know how i can setup a bluetooth pan on 10.5.8
thanks

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