Bluetooth PAN? - Palm Treo 750

Lo, just got my treo 750 and can use activesync to get a bluetooth internet connection, but I've a bluetooth access point in the office, and when I try to connect to it its seems to pair, but doesn't show as offering any services.
I've (slowly) figured out that the Treo's BT doesn't appear to support PAN, is there any way to add it?

I think that this comes with the AKU3 firmware update.

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Not all usb bluetooth dongles are equal

I bought a usb bluetooth dongle which used xtndconnect software, no joy at all with syncing my xda2, no serial profile that I could discern and basically all I could do was beam files back and forth. I saw on ebay a cheap usb dongle that supported voice gateway, there was no disc with it, just a link to download the widicom software from the sellers site, any way I installed it, I bonded my xda2 with the pc, the xda2 asked me did I wish to use my pc as a headset, I answered yes. I then went to bluetooth setup on xda2 and told it to use bluetooth activesync, it gave an error, saying "bond with serial profile" or something, I thought it was another brick wall dead end, then up popped a message, "activesync setup complete". I then opened activesync on the desktop and it works great. Also if I use my phone while in range of the pc it diverts the audio to my pc speakers and I can use my pc mic to answer. The dongle cost less than £20 in uk. I have to initiate sync by bluetooth on xda2.
The only thing I cant do is browse the web through the bluetooth even when synched, it insists on dialling a number. Can anybody give me the settings, pass thru works with usb connection.
I now have full internet access over bluetooth. I can even access it from downstairs while my pc is upstairs, solid connection, no dropping of signal and very fast compared to dialup over gsm.
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Cruisin-thru....
I have just purchased a class 1 dongle with 100m range, and use the software you mention through my laptop on windows XP Pro.
How did you set up the xda to web browse using bluetooth and your PC broadband connection ?
Regards
IT
I set up all the services I required, then on desktop of your pc click My bluetooth places, choose "my network access". After double clicking on that, click properties, there is a drop down box above "configure network adaptor" choose "allow internet access". Now as long as you are synced you can access the internet. When setting up activesync on xda2, make sure you havent bonded with any other item, go to settings/system/bluetooth, choose "activesync over bluetooth" make sure bluetooth is in "discover" mode beforehand, from there it should search and find the serial port on the pc and should work when you click activesync from programs, then at the bottom left options screen choose "sync by bluetooth". Hope this helps. I could not get any of this to work using another dongle that was using xtndconnect. By the way, the xda2 is very limited in its range for bluetooth regardless of the dongle on your pc.
cruisin-thru, many thanks for your help with Bluetooth Synch issues in these forums. Couldn't have done it without you!
I've just received my VOIP bluetooth dongle (Same as yours? PenBlue?) and got it working with ActiveSync and browsing the Interweb with the XDA2 over bluetooth. Awesome!
Can't work out how to get the network working, though. Scanning other topics here, there seems to be no way without installing the 'new' (Widcomm?) bluetooth stack on the XDA2, and enabling Internet Connection Sharing on the PC. I'd rather not clutter up the XDA2 with another BT stack, and I'm certainly not enabling ICS and buggering up my LAN settings here, just to get the network.
Can you suggest anything? You've been fairly quiet on this subject - wondered whether this PenBlue dongle makes it possible without all this dual-BT-stack skullduggery.
TIA

PAN and access to internet

I've Make a Personal Area Network and it has been hard..for me. I've used Bluesoleil bluetooth stacks (PDA) and Widcomm 4.0.1.700 for USB Bluetooth (PC). Using resco explorer i can browse and use my "lan"...play mp3, video in streaming, open photo...the only thing i can't do is browse the http with internet explorer. I Just want to Use my bluetooth like a wifi-lan, but the only way i have to do so is to use PAN for the file and Connect via bluetooth-com port to activesync to obtain an access to Internet.
Is there a way to directly access internet with the PAN? I really don't want to use activesync for that.
Thanks for all.
Hi Lyka,
I haven't tried the Bluesoleil BT stack on my MDA Compact yet, but I just bought a D-Link DBT-900AP, a so called Bluetooth Access Point with the BT PAN-profile. It costed "only" euro 50, not that expensive.
I can now surf from my PC and laptop via BT, but then I found out that the MDA Compact fails the PAN-option.
Hope to back-up my MDA and try that BT stack from Bluesoleil soon.
Greetings, Ben...
lyka
lyka, i manage to connect the PAN in bluesoleil (wdcomm BT in pc) but i cant see any shared file in res explorer (in network). do i have to change some setting under res. or under bluesoleil? HELP PLSSSS thanks
on the pc would have most likely have to make a user matching what your pda identify itself as for it to get access to shared things
total commander is an ok tool to brows networks with
Lyka, it's easy to get internet via PAN...do this:
- go to your windows network adapters and bridge your "local area network adapter" with your "bluetooth network adapter".
- On the widcomm bluetooth configuration icon (located on windows systray) select "configure" -> local services tab -> PAN -> properties. Make shure that you have the option "allow other users to use this connection for internet" selected.
- Connect your PDA to the PAN.
There you go - Internet.
Do note that sometimes (At least on mine), you don't get an IP for the PAN...the trick is to initiate the PAN and then initiate the LAN. Disable the lan after you get an ip. (Check the status icon on the bluesoleil stack so to make shure that you got an ip)
eviltart2, i've some problems with PAN when the phone uses the Blusoleil stack and the pc uses a widcomm stack...sometimes you don't get an IP...check if you're getting one. If not, then initiate the LAN connection and disconnect it afterwards (do note that some bluetooth adapters (old ones) don't support the LAN connection - only pan..)
Keeper
hi all.. i also tried blusoleil on my jam, but had to uninstall it because it didn't recognize my bt earplug (a plantronics 220) as a valid headset.. it paired the device, but didn't find any services for it.. anyone had the same problem? solutions?
sdalleave, the blusoleil stack doesn't support bt audio adapters (mono or stereo). You need to install the widcomm stack instead of the blusoleil one.
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sdalleave, the blusoleil stack doesn't support bt audio adapters (mono or stereo). You need to install the widcomm stack instead of the blusoleil one.
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ok, so if i understand correctly, i need the widcomm stack on the jam.. is it reversable like blusoleil or do i need to reset the jam to remove the bt stack if i don't like it? do you have a link to where i can find the widcomm stack?
thanks..
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sdalleave, the blusoleil stack doesn't support bt audio adapters (mono or stereo). You need to install the widcomm stack instead of the blusoleil one.
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hey keeper (are you the keeper from BF2142 that's in my buddy list??)
i've done some searching on the widcomm stack, but only found threads where they say it's not working on a magician.. is that true? do you have some link to someone who's actually done it?
thanks
I'm sorry for misleading you guys...there's no widcomm support for the magician...what i meant was a modded MS bluetooth stack with A2DP support which is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249219&highlight=a2dp+bluetooth
Do note that this stack ain't reversible, but you can install the bluesoleil one and use the "switch bluetooth stack" so to change between the modded one and the bluesoleil one. Also, do note that you need to reboot your PDA so that the stack changes from one to the other.
sdalleave: nah..i'm not that person...
Regards,
Keeper

BT PAN and HP nc6400 laptop

Anybody have an HP (Compaq) nc6400 laptop? It has built-in BT but doesn't appear to support PAN. WOuld the best idea be to buy a BT Dongle that does support it adn turn off the built-in one?
Prob is BT Stack
I had an HP NC6200 and the problem is in the BT Stack. Remove the software that came with the HP and install the MS drivers/stack and once the install completes, the option to "Join a Personal Area Network" will be available.
Just an aside....i dont prefer the MS BT Stack but in this case I know it works because my Dell has a Toshiba BT Stack and I had to do the same thing. Widcomm BT Stack is my preference.
Brad
OK, thanks for your help. Will give it a go. i guess the MS drivers are available on the MS site?
uninstalled the HP bt software but not sure where to find or how to install the MS stack?
OK, I've given up on the in-built BT. Got a BT USB dongle and Blue Soleil. Now PAN works and I can use my Hermes as a 3G modem.
good so far....
but how do you get ActiveSync to work over BT? Is it possible?
It would be much cheaper and easier just to download/buy Bluesoleil software from IVT - it works with all dongles, also with BT device you have inside your HP laptop.
yeah - it works with my dongle but not with the inbuilt device.
How do i get ActiveSync to work over BT?
If you disconnect the new dongle and install fresh demo from IVT website, Bluesoleil and then activate the built-in BT, it will work. Until you will buy license, there will be 5MB data limit.
I use BlueSoleil it with my built-in dongle from HP (nc6000).
ActiveSync is possible using virtual COM port on Bluetooth. There is sometimes ActiveSync service in some Bluetooth stacks, but I think IVT doesn't support it. If you want to use BT directly, you might need to switch to MS Bluetooth or Widcomm stack. Don't ask me how - never used MS stack.
BTW: there should be update for your Widcomm stack for your laptop - I think Bluetooth PAN is now standard (but painful to use with Widcomm).
When I try this the HP Wireless assistant takes over and BlueSoleil says "please insert your BT device".
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OK, no probs. I put it in Hermes WM6 because of the requirement for Internet Sharing after I upgraded to WM6 and therefore needed PAN but I accept that it is more of a general issue

How to setting PAN via bluetooth?

I've upgrade my himalaya to WM5, but i still have the same problem when i still use 2003. My device cant be detected as PAN device. I need it to make my himalaya as remote presenting.. How can i connect to Comp? or how to setting PAN bluetooth?
as far as i know the ms bluetooth stack never supported PAN
with 2003 one could install vidcomm bluetooth stack and get the profile
not sure if there are any working vidcomm stacks for 2005 though

Bluetooth PAN client

I've got desktop PC with Linux and bluetooth but without WiFi so I am using BT PAN network access point service on the desktop PC and BT PAN client on my notebook to connect wireless when at home. Both are BT 2.0+EDR so the speed is about 3.0Mbps.
I've got Hermes with WM6 5.2.1933 and MS BT stack.
Is there a way I can connect to Internet over BT PAN?
I know there is some bluetooth PAN support as it can be used in Internet sharing but I haven't figured out how to connect to existing BT PAN network.
Any advice?
it's not for linux but you should read this one
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
Thank you, it looks promising, I was able to find my bluetooth PAN interface and setup IP and DNS for it but I am unable to find any "Join a personal network" button in my bluetooth settings.
Where can I find the damn button?
OK, so just to close the topic...
the problem is in MS bluetooth stack which doesn't support bluetooth PAN client profile. The only solution for now is to install cracked Widcomm bluetooth stack on devices which originally came with the MS one. The project for this can be found on XDA wiki.
Current status for the Hermes (my sweety) is that you can make it work, can have BT PAN client but some other things doesn't work correctly (bt on/off in comm manager, bt audio profile doesn't work very well, ...).
What bout use WM6 with Internet haring Feature, that's all the stuff related to sharing internet using Bluetooth.
Regards,
Taguapire.
Internet Connection Sharing is the other way around: you can use your WM6 device as a PAN access point, and the PC (e.g. a notebook) is the PAN client.
KOPRajs, you can use ActiveSync over Bluetooth. On the PC you need SynCE (http://www.synce.org/). The wiki there is currently under construction, and I can't find anything about Bluetooth now, but there's a Howto for Ubuntu over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50932 .
Thx, I have actually SynCE working (even over bluetooth) but I was unable to set up MS proxy (or whatever it is) so even when it's connected, apps on the phone do not know about active connection and tries to dial up a GPRS instead of using Active Sync connection.
And more, the whole SynCE thing is highly unstable yet so that's why would be nice to use BT PAN client.

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