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I know this is not an Apple/iPhone forum but I've seen a number of users on here that have or had an iPhone so I thought I would just ask some general questions.
Right now I'm borrowing a friends 2G iPhone to try out, still trying to get my SIM working in it without adding data temporarily, but that's a whole different story. Anyways, I also want to get an HTC Fuze and just switch back and forth between the two phones depending on which one I want to carry that day.
I am aware they both have their positives and negatives, I do not want to turn this thread into a WinMo Vs. iPhone thread.
My main confusion lies in the data plan. I would like to have data with both phones. Can I add the iPhone plan to my account and then switch the SIM back and forth and use the iPhone plan for data on the Fuze? or would I have to purchase the PDA plan from ATT for the Fuze, add the iPhone data plan when I activate it and then call and cancel the iPhone data the next day and just use the PDA plan for both phones? or would I have to purchase two separate data plans? In which case, it's going to be a very tough decision on which phone I get.
Not sure how it works in the states but here in the UK a data plan is attached to a sim so, swapping a sim from one phone to another shouldn't make any diference.
For example, I have a TD and an Omnia and I can switch between the two fine without any issues or cost.
To be honest, your best bet would be an Iphone forum as the winmob device won't care but, i'm not sure how the Ipony works ... does it use "apple" specific transport/protocol/ports etc?
g8m3rtag said:
I know this is not an Apple/iPhone forum but I've seen a number of users on here that have or had an iPhone so I thought I would just ask some general questions.
Right now I'm borrowing a friends 2G iPhone to try out, still trying to get my SIM working in it without adding data temporarily, but that's a whole different story. Anyways, I also want to get an HTC Fuze and just switch back and forth between the two phones depending on which one I want to carry that day.
I am aware they both have their positives and negatives, I do not want to turn this thread into a WinMo Vs. iPhone thread.
My main confusion lies in the data plan. I would like to have data with both phones. Can I add the iPhone plan to my account and then switch the SIM back and forth and use the iPhone plan for data on the Fuze? or would I have to purchase the PDA plan from ATT for the Fuze, add the iPhone data plan when I activate it and then call and cancel the iPhone data the next day and just use the PDA plan for both phones? or would I have to purchase two separate data plans? In which case, it's going to be a very tough decision on which phone I get.
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Do you plan to purchase the two devices with a 1/2-year plan for each?
I plan on buying the 2G iPhone from my friend, so no contract obviously. The Fuze I plan on buying with a two year contract.
Any other iPhone users out there with some ideas?
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..Any other iPhone users out there with some ideas?
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you dont need any other iPhone users mate, you have the attention of Menneisyys, if anyone can answer this for you.... he's the one
g8m3rtag said:
I plan on buying the 2G iPhone from my friend, so no contract obviously. The Fuze I plan on buying with a two year contract.
Any other iPhone users out there with some ideas?
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Then, you'll be able to just swap the card among the two phones. I'm continuously doing the same between my iPhone 3G and other PDA's and phones.
Monty Burns said:
you dont need any other iPhone users mate, you have the attention of Menneisyys, if anyone can answer this for you.... he's the one
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Lol, I guess so.
Menneisyys said:
Then, you'll be able to just swap the card among the two phones. I'm continuously doing the same between my iPhone 3G and other PDA's and phones.
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So you just have the required iPhone data plan on your bill and it works with the iPhone as well as your other WinMo phones? So the easiest thing for me to do right now would be to put my SIM in the iPhone, activate it through iTunes, add the data plan. Eventually make my way to an ATT store to get the Fuze and just tell them I want a two year contract and no data, They'll put my SIM into the Fuze and then when I want to just go back to the iPhone swap my SIM into it?
Or should I go get the Fuze, tell them I don't want a data plan, they'll swap my SIM out of my current non-smartphone into it, then I put the SIM into the iPhone and activate it and the iPhone data plan?
Well, if you are on ATT, then as soon as you start using the iPhone with your sim, ATT will automatically change your entire plan (Calls + Data) to the iPhone plan, or atlest this was what was happening till a few months ago.
I had the 2g iphone for 13 days and I was able to use the 3g sim card and the data plan (not 3g though) on my stock att 8125. I think the main difference between plans is unlimited SMS.
I do not believe you can use an old sim to activate to an iphone, I might be wrong or outdated on this but my old sims and even my new one do not work with the iphone. I was told some time ago that only new 3g sim cards and the iphoen imei can activate for an iphone plan.
Am I outdated?
Well I'm on a family plan with my parents so I would hope it doesn't change the voice plan, only the data?
And what order should I activate the phones, should I do the iPhone through iTunes and then go get the Fuze or should I go sign the two year contract with the Fuze and then add the iPhone through iTunes?
If I sign a two year contract with the Fuze and then activate the iPhone through iTunes will they charge me the $175 ETF? I don't think they would since I believe the contract is for the line of service, not the device but I want to make sure?
Anyone got an idea on which way I should do it?
Your scenario is so specific that it is beyond my iphone experience. I think you should move over to the forums at wireless.att.com and ask over there. DARE I SAY...They are a good resource and has good depth of knowledge about sims/plans/iphone.
Maybe you can convince the 'Rents to allow you your own plan. Go to LetsTalk and get a free Fuze from Att. )
I cant wait for the iphone to come out on another provider...with a better data plan...
Quick question...
I currently have the $20 iPhone data plan and was wondering if I was to install my sim card into the Fuze would att know and how?
I want to keep the visual voice mail option in case some software comes along but if not then I can just use my old razor.
Thanks in advance..
You could do it for now but they will probally find out eventually as it appears att is able to read ur imei over the network and know what phone you use..
My wife has the Tilt with the $20 data plan and had it for a year already with no issues. My concern, is the iPhone $20 data plan differnt the the $20 Multimedia bundle plan?
I think I would have to change anyways since I am unable to send MMS, right?
Theoretically they can find out but I am sure they don't check each and every IMEI to make sure everyone is compliant. You can use the MediaNet unlimited(MNU) or any other unlimited data plan(iPhone) with the Fuze without any issues, I have used MNU on the Fuze from GoPhone plan that I had before I signed a contract to get the Fuze. The MMS will work as well because it's the iPhone that does not have MMS functionality, Fuze has it.
unlimited data plan
the sales lady at the ATT store here in houston said that they will detect the type of phone you are using, at if it is a FUZE, they will AUTOMATICALLY upgrade your data plan to the $50/month pda data plan.
She told me in order to the get the discount that comes with a two year agreement, i had to sign up for this plan. Currently i pay $35/month for unlimited data, so i just bought the phone straight up without the discount.
I had a nokia e70 and now i am using the fuze for about a week now. I logged into my att wireless website to pay my bill and look at data usage, and noticed that ATT had changed my phone/device to the ATT fuze.
So the definitely know what type of device you are using, but i am waiting to see if they start charging me $50/month for my unlimited data.
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the sales lady at the ATT store here in houston said that they will detect the type of phone you are using, at if it is a FUZE, they will AUTOMATICALLY upgrade your data plan to the $50/month pda data plan.
She told me in order to the get the discount that comes with a two year agreement, i had to sign up for this plan. Currently i pay $35/month for unlimited data, so i just bought the phone straight up without the discount.
I had a nokia e70 and now i am using the fuze for about a week now. I logged into my att wireless website to pay my bill and look at data usage, and noticed that ATT had changed my phone/device to the ATT fuze.
So the definitely know what type of device you are using, but i am waiting to see if they start charging me $50/month for my unlimited data.
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i recently changed from the Tilt to the Fuze and sure enough my type of device changed as well. However, i still have media net enabled.
Unlimited data for $50 bucks????
Don't they have an unlimited data plan for $30? $50 is absurd?
This begs the question then, can they find out if you use your phone for tethering even though you haven't paid for tethering?
ngravatt said:
She told me in order to the get the discount that comes with a two year agreement, i had to sign up for this plan. Currently i pay $35/month for unlimited data, so i just bought the phone straight up without the discount.
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They're totally full of it or terribly ill informed. I had nearly the same conversation in two ATT stores, except they were trying to push the $30 data plan on me. Net result was that if I wasn't prepared to sign up for data they'd give me $50 off for signing up for two years!
Anyway, I ended up checking my account online and upgrading through their website. $349, no data plan required. (note: I believe the $50 mail in rebate does require you have both a voice and data plan).
It's not just that the iPhone won't send or receive MMS, but you don't get the MMs service with the iPhone plan. I just recently changed to the Fuze from the iPhone and had to change my data and texting plan. However when I had the iPhone I called and told them that I used other phones for work(with the iphone sim) and they added MMS to my plan, after alot of arguing.
CalifornIyay said:
Quick question...
I currently have the $20 iPhone data plan and was wondering if I was to install my sim card into the Fuze would att know and how?
I want to keep the visual voice mail option in case some software comes along but if not then I can just use my old razor.
Thanks in advance..
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It wouldnt work.
I had the iPhone also right before i just got my fuze.
If you just put the SIM card in the fuze, u will be able to make phone calls, and text. But once you try to use the Internet, it will fail. You will be able to use WIFI, but not Edge or 3G connections.
When i went to by my fuze, they gave me a new Sim Card. And even WITH THAT...once i got home i wasnt able to connect to the internet using 3G, i had to call AT&T support and they said that they still had the "iPhone" information in their systems...so they were sending an iPhone Signal to my FUZE, which apprently was incompatable.
So, I guess the iPhone receives a different signal than "regular phones."
I also had $20 data plan. But now i have the $30 data plan for my fuze. Since the $20 iPhone doesnt exist anymore, since the the 3G iPhone came out.
Can you please explain what do you mean when you say iPhone uses a different signal? I still think you should try your SIM card with the Fuze before signing up for a more expensive plan.
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They're totally full of it or terribly ill informed. I had nearly the same conversation in two ATT stores, except they were trying to push the $30 data plan on me. Net result was that if I wasn't prepared to sign up for data they'd give me $50 off for signing up for two years!
Anyway, I ended up checking my account online and upgrading through their website. $349, no data plan required. (note: I believe the $50 mail in rebate does require you have both a voice and data plan).
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yeah, it sounded like a load of crap to me too. unlimited data is unlimited data, i read as much as i could on the ATT website about my data plan and it does not mention what type of device you can use with each plan.
i am pretty sure she was just using some sales tactics to get me to upgrade my plan
this unlimited data plan ($35/month) also includes the unlimited text and sms. I know they used to offer all that for $20 a month, so if you were smart enough to sign up for it when they offered it you, you should be able to keep it and use it with any phone.
I was also told I had to upgrade from the $20 to $35 plan (unlimited data, 200 messages).
And they are able to detect your phone, I got the 8125 from ATT but when I upgraded to the 8525 I wasn't eligible for the discount and it was cheaper to get one on Ebay and move my SIM card over. When I got the Fuze they checked their computer and saw I had the 8525 even though it was off and the SIM card was now out of it (they must have checked and updated sometime in the last 2 years).
If you want unlimited data just own up to the fact you've going to pay more.
what i've been doing with cingular/att since the wizard days was place my sim card in a non-pda device, like say a motorola razr or something simple like that. Call them up and tell them you are no longer using the PDA (be it fuze, tilt, 8125, 8528 etc). They'll see what phone your using, actually they'll ask for that phones imie, put it in there system and allow you to switch to the $15 unlimitted medianet plan for non-pdas. Then switch your sim back into your pda.
I'm currently using my tilt with the $15 unlimitted media net plan and have been using this plan with my past 3/4 winmo ppcs. I even tether quite a bit and, knock on wood, haven't been "caught" yet.
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Can you please explain what do you mean when you say iPhone uses a different signal? I still think you should try your SIM card with the Fuze before signing up for a more expensive plan.
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im not really sure of details, but that is wat i understood when i called the Customer Support and thats what the tech guy told me
But yea, i guess u should try it and figure it out
also if u use the iphone plan on another device and you get a voice mail, you will recieve a jibbirish text message which is what communicates with the visual voicemail on the iphone.
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It wouldnt work.
I had the iPhone also right before i just got my fuze.
If you just put the SIM card in the fuze, u will be able to make phone calls, and text. But once you try to use the Internet, it will fail. You will be able to use WIFI, but not Edge or 3G connections.
When i went to by my fuze, they gave me a new Sim Card. And even WITH THAT...once i got home i wasnt able to connect to the internet using 3G, i had to call AT&T support and they said that they still had the "iPhone" information in their systems...so they were sending an iPhone Signal to my FUZE, which apprently was incompatable.
So, I guess the iPhone receives a different signal than "regular phones."
I also had $20 data plan. But now i have the $30 data plan for my fuze. Since the $20 iPhone doesnt exist anymore, since the the 3G iPhone came out.
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Are you sure this isn't because of the proxy in the Fuze settings? Because when I swapped my sim from my iphone to a n82 or a tilt when I test drove one, the connection worked perfectly though I still couldn't receive any MMS....
$19.99 a month
I have an old 19.99 plan. It works with my iphone, tilt, and fuse.
When getting another phone, they liketo change you plan around but after a couple of call ins, they can put it back on. I also have an older phone (like 5 years old) that I give the imei number, they change my internet back to the old plan, ...
Everything works fine.
I know it works for a fact!
Now if you just bought the HTC Fuze and want a data plan of course they are going to tell you its $30/month because its a PDA. They already have your IMEI number from your purchase when you walked in that store or called att to buy this phone.
Also, each time when you call the sales/customer support please be advise your conversations are monitored in their notes so if you try to be slick and thinking you are going to pull one over them they already have your previouse conversation in their systems.
This is how its done if you want to save $15 a month then listen up!
1) Wait until you get your mail-in rebate check becuase they will check.
2) Call ATT and tell them something funky is going on with the phone and you cant use it until you can get a replacement
3) Tell them you are going on a business trip so you cant wait until they ship the phone and you are going to have to use your old Motorola V300 or anything old laying around.
4) They will ask for your IMEI number and give it to them
5) Tell them you dont want to get charged $30 or $35 for this and give you the $20 Multimedia plan until you get back a month later. (They may say we will pro-rate your bill. Tell them NO! because you had issues before with being pro-rated, just change it until I get back)
6) Dont send your phone in because you have to leave in two days and dont have the time now, you will exchange it when you get back. If they send you another phone then dont accept it when its mailed or just exchange your phone and dont call back.
7) Change is done in their system and there you go..
REMEBER: You are the customer, so when they start to tell you they cant do that or push you away then tell them..THEN GIVE ME SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP ME!! Show your frustration from waiting and different information from their sales reps. Stick to your guns and dont back down. You may need to find someone who actually cares about their job and you can tell who they are..
Good Luck
This is what I noticed between the the iPhone and Media Net data plans.
*iPhone:
Pros:
-Unlimited Data, Visual Voice Mail, 200 text messages
Cons:
-MMS Disabled
*Multimedia Net
Pros:
- Unlimited Data, 200 Text Messages, MMS Enabled
Cons:
- No Visual Voice Mail, Not for PDA's
I had the MediaMax200 plan on a few phones and it worked fine on all of them including the 8525 PDA. I was going over my 200 text limit so I tried to switch to the MediaMax Unlimited text plan for $35. Everything seemed fine, but I got an email that stated I was using a PDA and the MediaMax Unlimited wasn't eligible for my phone. They removed all plans from my phone and said they were gonna charge me for each text and internet pay per use. I just said screw it and got the $50 PDA unlimited plan, (My work discount gives me a 22% discount on this though, so its under $40)
Anyways as long as you don't change data plans, they don't care or check.
Also I was very upset about what they did, so now I abuse the crap out of my data plan. I send thousands of texts and use a crapload of data just to get my money worth.
I want a Samsung Infuse. Can I get an sim adapter and just swap my sim card from an iPhone 4 to the new Infuse. I have unlimited data (and don't want to mess it up) and will be buying Infuse off contract at Best Buy but want to make sure the "4G" will work.
Thanks in advance!!
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I want a Samsung Infuse. Can I get an sim adapter and just swap my sim card from an iPhone 4 to the new Infuse. I have unlimited data (and don't want to mess it up) and will be buying Infuse off contract at Best Buy but want to make sure the "4G" will work.
Thanks in advance!!
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um well if there is an adapter maybe but you can just get a new sim. it has nothing to do with the data plan. you wont lose unlimited data and att will grant unlimited to anyone that once owned an iphone on any smart phone. you can only lose it if you request to change it and even if you lose it they made a decision to let old iphone users get it back, there was some time it was imposible to get back but the policy changed.
I really just want to be able to swap sim cards at will. I'd rather not chance calling AT&T and having a rep lose my unlimited.
I was wondering if someone has done what I want to do successfully.
dawgfan said:
I want a Samsung Infuse. Can I get an sim adapter and just swap my sim card from an iPhone 4 to the new Infuse. I have unlimited data (and don't want to mess it up) and will be buying Infuse off contract at Best Buy but want to make sure the "4G" will work.
Thanks in advance!!
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Yes. You can get an adapter off Amazon for like 99 cents + shipping. Or, if you are feeling particularly resourceful, you can do what I did and make your own adapter. You can find templates online which would probably be easier than what I did, which was to trace the shape I needed on the sim card holder (looks like a credit card) and cut out what you need with an exacto knife. Worked like a charm until my adapter came.
You will keep whatever data plan you have in place. In fact, AT&T does not care if you move your sim from phone to phone, as long as you keep paying your bill.
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Yes. You can get an adapter off Amazon for like 99 cents + shipping. Or, if you are feeling particularly resourceful, you can do what I did and make your own adapter. You can find templates online which would probably be easier than what I did, which was to trace the shape I needed on the sim card holder (looks like a credit card) and cut out what you need with an exacto knife. Worked like a charm until my adapter came.
You will keep whatever data plan you have in place. In fact, AT&T does not care if you move your sim from phone to phone, as long as you keep paying your bill.
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+1 they couldnt care less, you wont lose the plan, as that can be moved to other smartphones if you already have it. but since you need the sim for both phones the adapter makes the most sence. activating a new sim will likely deactivate the old one.
Yep, got my Infuse a few days ago and have been doing just that - using a sim adaptor with my iPhone 4 sim. Everything works fine, been switching back & forth with both phones. I also discussed it with the sales guy when buying the Infuse and he told me it was no problem.
When i got a new phone over my iPhone 3G they sales rep gave me a sim card but told me not to use and just leave the phone in airplane mode.
Also dont worry about losing data it will grandfather down to you so you should be ok
im switching from an iphone 4 to the infuse next week and would like to a link to this sim adapter on amazon if anyone could provide it please. Thanks I'm completely new to this stuff :x
you dont even need an adapter, just slide it into the right spot and it wont move, ive used the same iphone sim for the last year in 4 different phones and never had a problem.
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you dont even need an adapter, just slide it into the right spot and it wont move, ive used the same iphone sim for the last year in 4 different phones and never had a problem.
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I am using an iPhone 4 sim with my Infuse. Seems like everything is running fine. I've thought about getting a 4G sim but it doesn't seem as if I need to.
The other day I was at Frys to look at the SR. They had the black one for $139.99. I looked at the tag and it said that they charge an extra $7 for the sim card.
I've been with att for almost forever and I don't think I've ever been charged for the sim card. Is this something new or is this something that Frys is doing?
Lets say I bought the phone and didn't buy the sim card from them, can I still use my old "3g" card and get the LTE speed if I am in a LTE area?
U have to call at&t if u u do that because you will have no data. They have to know you bought an lte phone or your data will not work at all. Alsoi went to at&t the gave me an lte sim card for free. But i dont think your 3g sim will work at all. Needs to be a 4g sim
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U have to call at&t if u u do that because you will have no data. They have to know you bought an lte phone or your data will not work at all. Alsoi went to at&t the gave me an lte sim card for free. But i dont think your 3g sim will work at all. Needs to be a 4g sim
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Sim card has no bearing on data type. Just let att know you upgraded to an lte phone.
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Sim card has no bearing on data type. Just let att know you upgraded to an lte phone.
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Not fully true, you have to get a new sim, they are called "4g" sims. or just you can just say plan sim card. also if you go to an att corp store you can get one for free!
Never go to a authorized retailer tho!!1 they will eff you stuff up!! ha
But you do need to get a new one to get faster internet speeds!
also you don't have to tell AT&t just use the phone for a day then they will send you a text saying, we see you're using a smart phone. to better server you we'll add the internet 2gb plan."
but if you want to start using the internet right away just call
Correct me if important wrong, but i think it matters what sim you have. I was on my old sim card and couldn't get LTE speed. Went to rogers bought an LTE sim...now on LTE speed.
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So I can put my 3g sim card on it but won't get LTE and just go to the att store and pick up the 4g card for free?
Saelee said:
So I can put my 3g sim card on it but won't get LTE and just go to the att store and pick up the 4g card for free?
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Oi, people these days...
Call AT&T and have them provision your line correctly, they have to add the LTE data plan for the radio to get LTE access.
It really doesn't matter what SIM you use, as long as they provision it correctly, but it is good to get a new SIM when you get a new phone... so yeah.
Only time you need a new SIM is on Verizon, for their LTE. ^^
You do need a new sim. If you were to plug in an older SIM, you would be able to text and make calls but you would have no data. If you go to an ATT store, they will replace your SIM with the LTE one for no charge, regardless of where you bought the phone. If you buy the phone from ATT they will do it when you get the phone. I have sold 3 skyrockets and none of them had worked with the older sims including my own. I do not know about other carriers and can only speak about ATT phones. I do not know about whether frys has to pay att per activation or for the sim cards, so that may be why they have to charge 7 dollars. If you do not want to pay the 7 dollar frys fee, then get the phone, head to the ATT store, then replace the SIM for free.
Even if ATT provisions the line correctly, the phone will not pick up the non lte sim card. I worked with the ATT sales tech on the day the skyrocket came out. He provisioned the line, plugged in my old sim, and it wouldnt pick up LTE. Then he realized they need to use the brand new stack of SIM cards, set up the new sim, plugged it in and I had blazing fast LTE.
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You do need a new sim. If you were to plug in an older SIM, you would be able to text and make calls but you would have no data. If you go to an ATT store, they will replace your SIM with the LTE one for no charge, regardless of where you bought the phone. If you buy the phone from ATT they will do it when you get the phone. I have sold 3 skyrockets and none of them had worked with the older sims including my own. I do not know about other carriers and can only speak about ATT phones. I do not know about whether frys has to pay att per activation or for the sim cards, so that may be why they have to charge 7 dollars. If you do not want to pay the 7 dollar frys fee, then get the phone, head to the ATT store, then replace the SIM for free.
Even if ATT provisions the line correctly, the phone will not pick up the non lte sim card. I worked with the ATT sales tech on the day the skyrocket came out. He provisioned the line, plugged in my old sim, and it wouldnt pick up LTE. Then he realized they need to use the brand new stack of SIM cards, set up the new sim, plugged it in and I had blazing fast LTE.
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Very true...
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Att does have 4g sims but they still say 3g. But yes u do need the correct sim to get lte
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There's no such thing as an "LTE SIM Card". Plain and simple.
Normal size SIM cards are SKU 70357. Micro SIM cards are SKU 70290.
That's it folks.
The data plan is what has to be changed. For example, I took the SIM out of my Inspire and put it in my Skyrocket demo and got no data until I manually changed the IMEI to the Skyrocket.
Same SIM card, but a new data plan.
Oh, SIM cards are actually $25 and $35 for micro SIMs. Agents and ARs can charge if they want. COR stores shouldn't charge you, however.
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Since we're on the topic of SIM cards and the data plans they use, I've got a couple questions I'm hoping you guys can answer:
I have an iPhone 4s which has my grandfathered unlimited plan. When I throw my 4s SIM into my skyrocket, I get 3g speeds (have to play with APN settings). Now, I don't have LTE in my area yet but with all this news of LTE springing up, I'm thinking it's coming soon. Here's what I want to do. I want to be able to switch from 4s to skyrocket freely without having to contact ATT everytime.
My questions:
1) Should I move my skyrocket to my main line to get a new sim to get LTE then cut it so it fits my 4s too?
2) Will the SIM work correctly in my 4s after changing to the LTE data plan?
3) Can I call att and have them switch my plan to LTE using the current microsim?
4) Will the 4s SIM and all the functionality work after making the change?
I'm hoping someone went through this already so I can get good advice. I may just have to be the guinea pig if not.
I don't know about you guys, but I am pretty sure my iphone 4s's micro sim isn't an lte sim card, and it works perfectly fine as long as it's positioned correctly.
For data, all you have to do is configure the media net apn
Edit: missed the guy's post above me, whoops!
I just got a Skyrocket today and I swapped my Infuse simple into it and it has been working perfectly. I am not in an LTE enabled area but the next time in am down in Manhattan I will test the speed.
Infused with Android DNA
The title expresses my basic question. If I had a tablet that was on a Verizon data plan, could I take the SIM card from it and put it in a smartphone (that had the same size SIM) and use that smartphone on the data plan of the tablet? I understand that I probably won't get the basic phone calls and texting capabilities.
My other question is do you think the following scenario will work, or is there a better way to get a data only plan for a smartphone on Verizon?
Go to Verizon store and purchase a tablet on a data plan. Purchase a Verizon smartphone off of eBay that matches the SIM size of the tablet. Swap the SIM card. Sell tablet on eBay. Set up smartphone with Google voice.
I have found multiple cases of people taking their smartphone SIM card and putting it in a Tablet to use the data on the smartphone plan. But I've never heard of someone doing it the other way. If I put the tablet SIM in the smartphone will I be able to pay by the minute for calls or will I be forced to a VOIP service?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Well I don't know how useful that scenario will be now that Verizon stopped subsidizing their tablets with contract purchases. I was hoping to purchase it on a contract then sell it for more to help with purchasing the phone off contract.
Does anyone have any ideas on the best way to go about this? I want to try and stick with Verizon because they have great coverage in my area.
First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.
pazi79 said:
First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.
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I tried to talk them into that last fall and they wouldn't go for it. What I really want to do is get on their shared everything plan with me and my wife and have 2 smartphones on their tablet plan for $60. Which is way better than the $150+ we would pay for the regular smartphone plan.
Is it possible to buy a SIM card from them or ebay and have it activated as a tablet and then stick it in a smartphone? Could I just go in there and say, "I forgot my tablet at home and I need a new SIM card activated on a new plan." Then take it home and put it in myself?
When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.
pazi79 said:
When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.
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Yeah, I understand that. I'm banking on the fact that they will believe me that I have a tablet at home (even though I really don't) and that I need a new SIM card (for whatever reason, like i lost it or my device didnt come with one cuz I bought it on ebay). Basically, activating a new device. Do they NEED the device there at the store to activate the SIM?
No
So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?
nsackman22 said:
So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?
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I've found from people on HowardForums that this isn't possible. The verizon people need the IMEI of a device to activate the SIM card for it. Also, from them I learned that it is possible to put a SIM from a tablet into a smartphone and use it on data only. I just need to make sure the SIMs are the same size between the two. If I were to sell the tablet afterwards it would have a "bad ESN" and not be able to be activated on the Verizon network because it would be tied to my account. The tablet would still be usable as wifi only.