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iphone data plan with AT&T 8525?

I know this may seem like a strange question, but if I get an iphone, can I swap my sim card like I do with other phones and use the $20 data plan with my At&T 8525? I can practically get an iphone free by adding a couple of months to my contract due to the difference in price for unlimited Internet, so why not get one to play with if there's no issues with swapping my sim card back and forth.

Assuming this page is correct, you can't switch the sim cards back and forth.. oh well, so much for that idea..
http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/7-bad-things-about-the-iphone-they-dont-want-you-to-know

Question re: Using both Inspire and iPhone 4

I ordered my Inspire off contract but am planning on keeping both my iPhone 4 and Inspire. I see a lot of people talking about having issues with data plans but was wondering if anyone is still using their iPhone data plan on their Inspire? I'd call at&t and simply get on the unlimited data plan but I know if I switch to that off my current iPhone unlimited plan I will get harrassed by at&t when I pop my sim into the iPhone and will get messages saying I'm not on a iPhone plan, etc... I'm assuming it will work as long as I change the APN settings when I get the phone but then run the risk of missing out on their "4G". If anyone is swapping sims out with another phone and can help me out it would be appreciated. Thanks.

I don't know if the 4G will suffer but I had an iPhone 3GS before I bought a Samsung Captivate (Have an Inspire now). As long as I kept the iPhone data plan, I could switch back and forth with no problems.
Wait, doesn't the iPhone 4 use a small sim card? Do you have an adapter for it?

mikejames07 said:
I don't know if the 4G will suffer but I had an iPhone 3GS before I bought a Samsung Captivate (Have an Inspire now). As long as I kept the iPhone data plan, I could switch back and forth with no problems.
Wait, doesn't the iPhone 4 use a small sim card? Do you have an adapter for it?
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Thanks for the reply, yeah it does use a micro sim but I do have a adapter for it. So you were able to simply put your sim with the iPhone plan into the Inspire and data worked right away with no APN changes? Thanks again.

I have an iPhone 4 and an Captivate. I use an adapter and switch back and forth; no issues.

MarkPharaoh said:
I have an iPhone 4 and an Captivate. I use an adapter and switch back and forth; no issues.
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I had a captivate as well and never had issues switching back and forth. I was just concerned due to a lot of people claiming to have issues with their data and the solution to call at&t to be put on a "4g" plan.

You should have no problems.

Bad Ash said:
Thanks for the reply, yeah it does use a micro sim but I do have a adapter for it. So you were able to simply put your sim with the iPhone plan into the Inspire and data worked right away with no APN changes? Thanks again.
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No not my Inspire, I put it into my Captivate... but had no issues. I was going to try my father's iPhone 4 so I could give you a definite answer but that' when I realized the small sim in the iPhone 4's and I don't have the adapter for it

mikejames07 said:
No not my Inspire, I put it into my Captivate... but had no issues. I was going to try my father's iPhone 4 so I could give you a definite answer but that' when I realized the small sim in the iPhone 4's and I don't have the adapter for it
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Ah, ok. I appreciate you trying though. Guess I will just wait and see what happens in a day or two.

dsjr2006 said:
You should have no problems.
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I hope not but based on all of the other data issues people were having and at&t telling them they need to be on the "4G" data plan, I think I may not be so lucky. If I have to call at&t every time I want to switch phones just to change data plans it's going to be a pain.

No issues with mine since Saturday. I switched to the Inspire on Saturday and then back to the iPhone all day today while rooting. Now back to the Inspire tonight. All is fine. I also had a Captivate too with no issues.

awtryau89 said:
No issues with mine since Saturday. I switched to the Inspire on Saturday and then back to the iPhone all day today while rooting. Now back to the Inspire tonight. All is fine. I also had a Captivate too with no issues.
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And your account still says you have the iPhone data plan? All I needed to hear, thanks.

Bad Ash said:
And your account still says you have the iPhone data plan? All I needed to hear, thanks.
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Mine still did as well. Worked fine.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G

id10terrordfw said:
Mine still did as well. Worked fine.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G
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Thanks for the feedback.

So just to clarify, as I will be doing this too, you just left your data plan as it was, unlimited for iPhone, and popped in the micro SIM (with adapter), and it was fine? Did you have to change the APN on the Inspire if you didn't get the plan changed? And what do you do about Visual Voicemail, checking your VM from the Inspire? Thanks!

Puppy34 said:
So just to clarify, as I will be doing this too, you just left your data plan as it was, unlimited for iPhone, and popped in the micro SIM (with adapter), and it was fine? Did you have to change the APN on the Inspire if you didn't get the plan changed? And what do you do about Visual Voicemail, checking your VM from the Inspire? Thanks!
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I can't answer the question about the APN yet since I don't have my Inspire yet but with visual voicemail I know you will just have regular voicemail in the Inspire and when you go back to the iPhone it will be VVM. At least that's the way it has been with my Samsung Focus and Captivate with the iPhone. But believe me all of this talk about data plans is making my head spin. One person says this another says that... AT&T reps seem clueless as well. I honestly think 3G and 4G plans (in terms of the plans since they both use the same type of sim card) are the same with AT&T just trying to keep things organized on their end. It would be much simpler to have a smartphone data plan and call it a day. A lot less confusion.

Bad Ash said:
I can't answer the question about the APN yet since I don't have my Inspire yet but with visual voicemail I know you will just have regular voicemail in the Inspire and when you go back to the iPhone it will be VVM. At least that's the way it has been with my Samsung Focus and Captivate with the iPhone. But believe me all of this talk about data plans is making my head spin. One person says this another says that... AT&T reps seem clueless as well. I honestly think 3G and 4G plans (in terms of the plans since they both use the same type of sim card) are the same with AT&T just trying to keep things organized on their end. It would be much simpler to have a smartphone data plan and call it a day. A lot less confusion.
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Totally. The only thing I can gather from all the forums is that you don't have to change your plan to a "4G" data plan IF you change the APN...But no one will really say either way.

Puppy34 said:
Totally. The only thing I can gather from all the forums is that you don't have to change your plan to a "4G" data plan IF you change the APN...But no one will really say either way.
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Yup, so many people are getting way too many different answers from AT&T and it's probably just as easy as keeping your iPhone plan and changing the APN. Like I said, 3G or AT&T's "4G" work off the same sim. Think we will be fine just changing the APN.

Just wanted to add, that I'm doing the same thing - using my iPhone4 sim (with adaptor) in the Inspire 4G. I didn't need to change any APN's, I just put the sim in and it worked.
Also, when I check my account page on AT&T, it shows my current phone as the Inspire 4G, but I'm still listed with the iPhone Data Plan (unlimited).
So far all is fine and I'm getting normal 3G speeds, same as iPhone.
I'm just wondering when ATT flips the switch on 4G on March 1, if my sim & plan will continue to work ok and give me those faster 4G speeds... So much confusion and misinformation going on out there, I'm just going to wait and see.

aimfire72 said:
Just wanted to add, that I'm doing the same thing - using my iPhone4 sim (with adaptor) in the Inspire 4G. I didn't need to change any APN's, I just put the sim in and it worked.
Also, when I check my account page on AT&T, it shows my current phone as the Inspire 4G, but I'm still listed with the iPhone Data Plan (unlimited).
So far all is fine and I'm getting normal 3G speeds, same as iPhone.
I'm just wondering when ATT flips the switch on 4G on March 1, if my sim & plan will continue to work ok and give me those faster 4G speeds... So much confusion and misinformation going on out there, I'm just going to wait and see.
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I'm glad I'm not alone. Have you tried putting the sim back into the iPhone to see if that shows up on your account again? I'm really leaning towards saying it will work fine. I really believe AT&T is feeding everyone a lot of BS. I remember they would tell everyone a iPhone data plan would not work on any other smartphone. Of course we all know that's not the case.
(And I'm not sure if this "4G" data plan would work in the iPhone or not but that's a possibility to switch to unlimited 4G and just use that in the iPhone. Can anyone confirm this?)

I haven't put the sim back in the iPhone yet, but in the past, I've used that same sim in a Galaxy Tab, Galaxy S, Nexus 1 and S phones - and they've all worked fine with my "iPhone data plan". Nothing changed in my account, so I think we're ok...

Paying extra for Sim card?

The other day I was at Frys to look at the SR. They had the black one for $139.99. I looked at the tag and it said that they charge an extra $7 for the sim card.
I've been with att for almost forever and I don't think I've ever been charged for the sim card. Is this something new or is this something that Frys is doing?
Lets say I bought the phone and didn't buy the sim card from them, can I still use my old "3g" card and get the LTE speed if I am in a LTE area?

U have to call at&t if u u do that because you will have no data. They have to know you bought an lte phone or your data will not work at all. Alsoi went to at&t the gave me an lte sim card for free. But i dont think your 3g sim will work at all. Needs to be a 4g sim

silver03wrx said:
U have to call at&t if u u do that because you will have no data. They have to know you bought an lte phone or your data will not work at all. Alsoi went to at&t the gave me an lte sim card for free. But i dont think your 3g sim will work at all. Needs to be a 4g sim
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Sim card has no bearing on data type. Just let att know you upgraded to an lte phone.
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Sim card has no bearing on data type. Just let att know you upgraded to an lte phone.
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Not fully true, you have to get a new sim, they are called "4g" sims. or just you can just say plan sim card. also if you go to an att corp store you can get one for free!
Never go to a authorized retailer tho!!1 they will eff you stuff up!! ha
But you do need to get a new one to get faster internet speeds!
also you don't have to tell AT&t just use the phone for a day then they will send you a text saying, we see you're using a smart phone. to better server you we'll add the internet 2gb plan."
but if you want to start using the internet right away just call

Correct me if important wrong, but i think it matters what sim you have. I was on my old sim card and couldn't get LTE speed. Went to rogers bought an LTE sim...now on LTE speed.
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So I can put my 3g sim card on it but won't get LTE and just go to the att store and pick up the 4g card for free?

Saelee said:
So I can put my 3g sim card on it but won't get LTE and just go to the att store and pick up the 4g card for free?
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Oi, people these days...
Call AT&T and have them provision your line correctly, they have to add the LTE data plan for the radio to get LTE access.
It really doesn't matter what SIM you use, as long as they provision it correctly, but it is good to get a new SIM when you get a new phone... so yeah.
Only time you need a new SIM is on Verizon, for their LTE. ^^

You do need a new sim. If you were to plug in an older SIM, you would be able to text and make calls but you would have no data. If you go to an ATT store, they will replace your SIM with the LTE one for no charge, regardless of where you bought the phone. If you buy the phone from ATT they will do it when you get the phone. I have sold 3 skyrockets and none of them had worked with the older sims including my own. I do not know about other carriers and can only speak about ATT phones. I do not know about whether frys has to pay att per activation or for the sim cards, so that may be why they have to charge 7 dollars. If you do not want to pay the 7 dollar frys fee, then get the phone, head to the ATT store, then replace the SIM for free.
Even if ATT provisions the line correctly, the phone will not pick up the non lte sim card. I worked with the ATT sales tech on the day the skyrocket came out. He provisioned the line, plugged in my old sim, and it wouldnt pick up LTE. Then he realized they need to use the brand new stack of SIM cards, set up the new sim, plugged it in and I had blazing fast LTE.

jason.hamilton said:
You do need a new sim. If you were to plug in an older SIM, you would be able to text and make calls but you would have no data. If you go to an ATT store, they will replace your SIM with the LTE one for no charge, regardless of where you bought the phone. If you buy the phone from ATT they will do it when you get the phone. I have sold 3 skyrockets and none of them had worked with the older sims including my own. I do not know about other carriers and can only speak about ATT phones. I do not know about whether frys has to pay att per activation or for the sim cards, so that may be why they have to charge 7 dollars. If you do not want to pay the 7 dollar frys fee, then get the phone, head to the ATT store, then replace the SIM for free.
Even if ATT provisions the line correctly, the phone will not pick up the non lte sim card. I worked with the ATT sales tech on the day the skyrocket came out. He provisioned the line, plugged in my old sim, and it wouldnt pick up LTE. Then he realized they need to use the brand new stack of SIM cards, set up the new sim, plugged it in and I had blazing fast LTE.
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Very true...
-sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket

Att does have 4g sims but they still say 3g. But yes u do need the correct sim to get lte
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There's no such thing as an "LTE SIM Card". Plain and simple.
Normal size SIM cards are SKU 70357. Micro SIM cards are SKU 70290.
That's it folks.
The data plan is what has to be changed. For example, I took the SIM out of my Inspire and put it in my Skyrocket demo and got no data until I manually changed the IMEI to the Skyrocket.
Same SIM card, but a new data plan.
Oh, SIM cards are actually $25 and $35 for micro SIMs. Agents and ARs can charge if they want. COR stores shouldn't charge you, however.
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Since we're on the topic of SIM cards and the data plans they use, I've got a couple questions I'm hoping you guys can answer:
I have an iPhone 4s which has my grandfathered unlimited plan. When I throw my 4s SIM into my skyrocket, I get 3g speeds (have to play with APN settings). Now, I don't have LTE in my area yet but with all this news of LTE springing up, I'm thinking it's coming soon. Here's what I want to do. I want to be able to switch from 4s to skyrocket freely without having to contact ATT everytime.
My questions:
1) Should I move my skyrocket to my main line to get a new sim to get LTE then cut it so it fits my 4s too?
2) Will the SIM work correctly in my 4s after changing to the LTE data plan?
3) Can I call att and have them switch my plan to LTE using the current microsim?
4) Will the 4s SIM and all the functionality work after making the change?
I'm hoping someone went through this already so I can get good advice. I may just have to be the guinea pig if not.

I don't know about you guys, but I am pretty sure my iphone 4s's micro sim isn't an lte sim card, and it works perfectly fine as long as it's positioned correctly.
For data, all you have to do is configure the media net apn
Edit: missed the guy's post above me, whoops!

I just got a Skyrocket today and I swapped my Infuse simple into it and it has been working perfectly. I am not in an LTE enabled area but the next time in am down in Manhattan I will test the speed.
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how can i keep this phone without a plan

What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this

att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price

polish_pat said:
att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price
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I know, they sent me some BS email, saying that smartphones require a data plan.
They are designed for surfing the internet and use a lot of data. You are required a data plan

BookinZ06 said:
What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this
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Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...

k4ce said:
Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...
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Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att

BookinZ06 said:
Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att
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When they identify your phone as a smartphone, they don't do it through the data you send them, they don't through your imei number which is broadcast to att via your sim. So an app or rom won't do you any good. I can't speak for att, but tmobile has a similar policy with all smartphones requiring data but i have used a Nokia n8 on their network for 2 years without anyone tacking on a data plan.
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I'm on at&t prepaid $2/day without data - so far. I bought a data package before they changed their policy to monthly only for smartphones plus data package. I don't talk/text every day, so $2/day seemed worth trying. When they switched policies, I just did not buy a data package and as far as I know, I don't have at&t data access. But I have been able to use my phone for calls. Don't know what will happen when my $100 runs out, but that will probably be several months from now. Meantime I have a mobile hotspot I can use if out and about and think it necessary to check emails.
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You have to talk to a super visor. I have a the nexus without a data plan on att. Had to jump thru hoops though, rep said its done automatically through there computers so it had to be over ridded. And I had to call back
3 times because no one would do it for me.
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[Q] Can I use a SIM card from a tablet on a data plan in a smartphone?

The title expresses my basic question. If I had a tablet that was on a Verizon data plan, could I take the SIM card from it and put it in a smartphone (that had the same size SIM) and use that smartphone on the data plan of the tablet? I understand that I probably won't get the basic phone calls and texting capabilities.
My other question is do you think the following scenario will work, or is there a better way to get a data only plan for a smartphone on Verizon?
Go to Verizon store and purchase a tablet on a data plan. Purchase a Verizon smartphone off of eBay that matches the SIM size of the tablet. Swap the SIM card. Sell tablet on eBay. Set up smartphone with Google voice.
I have found multiple cases of people taking their smartphone SIM card and putting it in a Tablet to use the data on the smartphone plan. But I've never heard of someone doing it the other way. If I put the tablet SIM in the smartphone will I be able to pay by the minute for calls or will I be forced to a VOIP service?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Well I don't know how useful that scenario will be now that Verizon stopped subsidizing their tablets with contract purchases. I was hoping to purchase it on a contract then sell it for more to help with purchasing the phone off contract.
Does anyone have any ideas on the best way to go about this? I want to try and stick with Verizon because they have great coverage in my area.

First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.

pazi79 said:
First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.
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I tried to talk them into that last fall and they wouldn't go for it. What I really want to do is get on their shared everything plan with me and my wife and have 2 smartphones on their tablet plan for $60. Which is way better than the $150+ we would pay for the regular smartphone plan.
Is it possible to buy a SIM card from them or ebay and have it activated as a tablet and then stick it in a smartphone? Could I just go in there and say, "I forgot my tablet at home and I need a new SIM card activated on a new plan." Then take it home and put it in myself?

When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.

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When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.
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Yeah, I understand that. I'm banking on the fact that they will believe me that I have a tablet at home (even though I really don't) and that I need a new SIM card (for whatever reason, like i lost it or my device didnt come with one cuz I bought it on ebay). Basically, activating a new device. Do they NEED the device there at the store to activate the SIM?

No

So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?

nsackman22 said:
So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?
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I've found from people on HowardForums that this isn't possible. The verizon people need the IMEI of a device to activate the SIM card for it. Also, from them I learned that it is possible to put a SIM from a tablet into a smartphone and use it on data only. I just need to make sure the SIMs are the same size between the two. If I were to sell the tablet afterwards it would have a "bad ESN" and not be able to be activated on the Verizon network because it would be tied to my account. The tablet would still be usable as wifi only.