Anyone can tellme what is vga, Qvga, and realVGA? what is the deffirence?
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fernandosaez said:
Anyone can tellme what is vga, Qvga, and realVGA? what is the deffirence?
THANKS!
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The Universal's screen is made up of 640 by 480 pixels (ie VGA)
However, Windows Mobile is made for QVGA (ie Quarter VGA, or 320 by 240) screens
So, our devices run in QVGA mode (also known as 96dpi(dpi=dots (ie pixels) per inch)) by standard, by making every 4 "hardware" pixels display one "software" pixel (hence making the VGA screen run at QVGA resolution)
So, to show you the common resolutions for the HTC Universal:
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DPI Resolution Resolution Name Hardware to Software Pixel Ratio
96 320x240 QVGA 4:1
128 512x384 ??? 9:4
192 640x480 VGA 1:1
RealVGA is a piece of software that allows our PDA's to run at the three above resolutions
Hope this helps...
(ps. Sorry for the many edits - trying to make information as clear as possible)
As long as the real VGA is a hack software, why HTC makes an expensive and high battery consuming hardware for a non-supportive software?? i.e., neither HTC nor Microsoft has released any OS that supports the Real VGA resolution, what could be the rational behind the production of a device with VGA screen??
thanks buddy i have been searching looking out for the difference from long time but no one seemed to know it by the way i have the real vga software in my uni according to you which is the best resolution i should put it on to work best??
hbahaie said:
As long as the real VGA is a hack software, why HTC makes an expensive and high battery consuming hardware for a non-supportive software?? i.e., neither HTC nor Microsoft has released any OS that supports the Real VGA resolution, what could be the rational behind the production of a device with VGA screen??
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The thing is that certain apps support "High Resolution" (ie VGA) mode, for instance Pocket IE (on WM6)
Also, using multiple hardware pixels per software pixels allows for antialiasing
thanks buddy i have been searching looking out for the difference from long time but no one seemed to know it by the way i have the real vga software in my uni according to you which is the best resolution i should put it on to work best??
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Personally I prefer the higher resolutions (128dpi looks good, 192dpi is a little too small); however, there are a couple of problems. Firstly, due to poor programming, some applications (especially those that come with WM6 in the settings menu) don't scale their text properly, leading to missing text on higher resolutions. Secondly, I'm short-sighted so I need the bigger buttons\font
My advice to you is just to try the other resolutions. It does no harm to the device, and you can revert it to the default (or a different resolution) by using the RealVGA program again (so no danger of getting "stuck" in a resolution)
thank you very much for your help sir much appreciated
Added to wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalScreenResolution
Hello
I also appreciate this program. However, I have noticed one very unpleasant (at least for me) bug. When there is an incoming call in landscape mode, you couldn't see who is calling (no matter which resolution is set at this moment, even the initial one - according to my understanding this is 192 dpi from the program menu) - caller id info is corrupted - cropped text and photo. I have experienced this bug with 2 wm6 ROMs - JW's and Mo3ulla's. Moreover, in some cases the problem still exists even after uninstall of the RealVGA program. I'm using this version - Real.VGA.for.WM6.v1.1.
Any help or ideas?
italcar said:
Hello
I also appreciate this program. However, I have noticed one very unpleasant (at least for me) bug. When there is an incoming call in landscape mode, you couldn't see who is calling (no matter which resolution is set at this moment, even the initial one - according to my understanding this is 192 dpi from the program menu) - caller id info is corrupted - cropped text and photo. I have experienced this bug with 2 wm6 ROMs - JW's and Mo3ulla's. Moreover, in some cases the problem still exists even after uninstall of the RealVGA program. I'm using this version - Real.VGA.for.WM6.v1.1.
Any help or ideas?
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Thats not the RealVGA program then, thats your dailer skin (or the skin it applies to the pop-up displaying the person calling)
Additionally, (as I wrote in the wiki) I have no idea who maintains the RealVGA application or where their homepage is
TehPenguin said:
Thats not the RealVGA program then, thats your dailer skin (or the skin it applies to the pop-up displaying the person calling)
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Which WM6 ROM are you using? Do you have such a problem, after installing the RealVGA program?
TehPenguin said:
Additionally, (as I wrote in the wiki) I have no idea who maintains the RealVGA application or where their homepage is
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See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327830
In my understanding, this is the developer: tobias.waldvogel
And it seems that the application is developed for HTC Athena.
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Which WM6 ROM are you using? Do you have such a problem, after installing the RealVGA program?
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I do remember having that problem (and can't remember if it still happens - I'm using JWright's 2.12.04 at the moment)
I don't have RealVGA installed at the moment - however, RealVGA shouldn't change anything if you are running at the default resolution (ie 96dpi)
Hi! May be somebody knows how to connect outside VGA device, like video glasses? Is it possible?
Very puzzled! Help!
TehPenguin said:
The Universal's screen is made up of 640 by 480 pixels (ie VGA)
However, Windows Mobile is made for QVGA (ie Quarter VGA, or 320 by 240) screens
So, our devices run in QVGA mode (also known as 96dpi(dpi=dots (ie pixels) per inch)) by standard, by making every 4 "hardware" pixels display one "software" pixel (hence making the VGA screen run at QVGA resolution)
So, to show you the common resolutions for the HTC Universal:
Code:
DPI Resolution Resolution Name Hardware to Software Pixel Ratio
96 320x240 QVGA 4:1
128 512x384 ??? 9:4
192 640x480 VGA 1:1
RealVGA is a piece of software that allows our PDA's to run at the three above resolutions
Hope this helps...
(ps. Sorry for the many edits - trying to make information as clear as possible)
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Thanks very much for this explanation. It seems very straightforward: the more dpi the more you can cram into the screen, right? So, the smaller things will look....but HERE is where I am confused! The pictures in the thread about RealVGA seem to show that with 96 dpi, the same content seems very small on screen! I am really puzzled here. Please, explain!
From what I gather, 192 dpi is QVGA resolution in a VGA screen like Uni while 96 dpi (realVGA) is native VGA on a VGA screen. So you're absolutely right that 96 dpi should allow a VGA device like the Uni to display 640x480 resolution on a 320x240 screen.
Try to google for "VGA Demystified" by Menneisyys. The article is old but has great insights on VGA stuffs.
How does this work on my new samsung i780 which has a 320X320 resolution? which part should I install?
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Hi everyone,
Is there anyone tried to configure this plug-in in your PDA - JASJAR if so please let me know how? because I tried it on mine but didn't work any suggestions or alternatives to have similar theme its very nice to have the clock, weather and other additional info displayed on your PDA ...
works only in HTC devices
attached is htc home plugin cab file..
but not installing.. it says can be installed only in HTC devices..
may be some one can alter it to make it work for any universal..
hmm!
Didn't get it!
KOR!
ynagy said:
Hi everyone,
Is there anyone tried to configure this plug-in in your PDA - JASJAR if so please let me know how? because I tried it on mine but didn't work any suggestions or alternatives to have similar theme its very nice to have the clock, weather and other additional info displayed on your PDA ...
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It can install on UNIVERSAL, but doesn't look good for VGA screen....
Until now I can't find for VGA screen
Heryadi said:
It can install on UNIVERSAL, but doesn't look good for VGA screen....
Until now I can't find for VGA screen
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same as you, not working properly, is there anyone has any idea how to get it working JASJAR.
Homeplug is VGA aware...
I've got the homeplug working on my Universal though if you change to QVGA mode the fonts are too big. I think this is because it is VGA aware and so displays bigger fonts on VGA devices. So if you were to run it in your screens native resolution i.e. VGA it looks and works very well... Though you may have problems seeing all you other stuff . I'm fine with VGA though so it doesn't bother me at all...
hi.. can you share the file.. plz.. so we can try in our universal also..
Homeplug
Hi,
Any news here?
I tried the app as well, but it doesn't show good.
Want to fix this, do I need to enlarge the icons?
Any suggestions?
Cheers,
Leo
My Friend Laurentius you have to enlarge the layout not the icons.
I am saying that you have to open the distance between each tab so the icons can fully viewed.
Come on do it, you all know that you can.
IF you complete this work i will have a full touch contribution in my Universal and i will upload As soon as possible.
Regards
But... if you can't do it, why do you think I can
Regards,
Leo
defragen said:
My Friend Laurentius you have to enlarge the layout not the icons.
I am saying that you have to open the distance between each tab so the icons can fully viewed.
Come on do it, you all know that you can.
IF you complete this work i will have a full touch contribution in my Universal and i will upload As soon as possible.
Regards
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Laurentius26 said:
But... if you can't do it, why do you think I can
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Leo
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Because you have the knowledge. I am just a noobie about the development of oem softwares.
If you have time to check it it will be great.
Believe is a excellent programs and it's to bad working only in Real VGA mode.
Regards
Just need to change font...
I think you're going about the problem backwards , though that said I don't know if there is an easy way of changing the font either ... Changing the size of the text windows in the app involves a lot more work than changing the font size of the numerals within those same windows.
Though since I'm very happy with Homeplug in full VGA all I can say is good luck, because I think you guys are going to need it!
Well... I noticed that this app runs great on the HTC Blue angel.
The screen of the Blue angel has the same size as the Universal.
It still doesn't run 100% on Uni.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340932
Leo
wtpelzer said:
I think you're going about the problem backwards, though that said I don't know if there is an easy way of changing the font either ... Changing the size of the text windows in the app involves a lot more work than changing the font size of the numerals within those same windows.
Though since I'm very happy with Homeplug in full VGA all I can say is good luck, because I think you guys are going to need it!
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I dont understand why is so problem making HTC Home to work in VGA resolutions. Is ther no one can do that?!?
i'm working on it.
to answer your question about blueangel, it has a 320x240 screen, lower resolution of that of universal, which is 640x480.
i'm trying to develop a home plugin for our uni, but it takes lot of time.
stay tuned
Bonzo666 said:
i'm working on it.
to answer your question about blueangel, it has a 320x240 screen, lower resolution of that of universal, which is 640x480.
i'm trying to develop a home plugin for our uni, but it takes lot of time.
stay tuned
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sorry I am not developer so I will not be able to help with, but let me know if anything I can do.
thanks
Bonzo666 said:
i'm working on it.
to answer your question about blueangel, it has a 320x240 screen, lower resolution of that of universal, which is 640x480.
i'm trying to develop a home plugin for our uni, but it takes lot of time.
stay tuned
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i'll be watching you...
i already tried to enlarge icons, but obviously it didn't work..
so i have to open the main program and re-write all coordinates..
lukeap69 said:
i'll be watching you...
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hehe, me too...
Bonzo666 said:
i already tried to enlarge icons, but obviously it didn't work..
so i have to open the main program and re-write all coordinates..
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i think we have to wait a little longer...
I have a software that shows full screen only on QVGA (small window on VGA), I found this "Prog Reso Swap v1.0" free software that makes QVGA Window full on VGA screen and I tried it but never succee. Can anyone help me to try if work with you? Or if there is any solution to show QVGA window full screen on VGA.
Thanks in advance
"Prog Reso Swap v1.0" Software link
please...any solution?
Search for something called RealVGA that I think the guys talk about changing screen resolution so you can use software for different resolutions on VGA.
wovens said:
Search for something called RealVGA that I think the guys talk about changing screen resolution so you can use software for different resolutions on VGA.
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I just tried it. realVGA to make nonQVGA screen->VGA but I am looking for QVGA software fullscreen on VGA screen.
thank you
I still feel this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358657 and this other one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327830 could help. They talk about the different dpi you can get on a VGA screen. There is a sample with pictures of the look of the different dpi options and links to downloads. If the QVGA option is not for you, I am really confused now! sorry I cannot help further.
wovens said:
I still feel this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358657 and this other one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327830 could help. They talk about the different dpi you can get on a VGA screen. There is a sample with pictures of the look of the different dpi options and links to downloads. If the QVGA option is not for you, I am really confused now! sorry I cannot help further.
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RealVGA : makes QVGA screen device -> VGA (usefull for QVGA device uses to run VGA software)
I need : VGA screen device -> QVGA (to run QVGA software full screen in VGA)
thanks for this information.
I too have been looking for something like this. For instance, I would love to see the original HTC home in VGA but full screen and not 1/4 the size which is what you get when you install it on a VGA device. If there was a way to get the HTC home to display in VGA where it takes up as much space as the QVGA device, then we will be in business.
ok, so the diamond forum has a thread on themes..however. it is pages and pages about sites that hold themes that you have to wade through only to find that none of them are VGA (all QVG or WQVGA etc)
so, how about we have a thread that links to or shows ONLY vga themes??
ONLY VGA THEMES!!!
I've been searching for hours for good VGA themes for SPB Mobile shell and not had a great deal of success.
so, if you have managed to find some good ones...link to them here or upload them here.
thanks
HEAR HEAR!!! TOtally agree with you mate, am also trying to find good themes, or at least an ORGANISED database to get those themes instead of them being all over the place.
Mmmmm..... so what do you mean by "VGA Only Theme" ?
Are you refering to the images (background etc) or to the whole look and feel?
I also presume that you are talking about Themes with TF3D disabled as by default - TF3D is true VGA?
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Blob8me said:
TF3D is true VGA?
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That's what I was thinking...all tabs, all icons, and all tf3d apps (i.e. weather) is VGA to my understanding.
I was thinking more of themes that use MS rather than TF3D since I very quickly got bored with TF3D as it was all form and lack of function for me.
None of the TF3D themes I've seen improve on function: Clock taking up too much of screen, while the font size from date (day of week) is too small, and I can't even read the content of my next appointment (caused by font size & room on screen).
HTChome and its HHC are mostly (only ?) QVGA/WQVGA based.
I found HTC_Home_VGA.cab but that delivers unreadable fonts as well
It seems based on on a different HTChome.dll to be put in \windows that decrease the font to fit in the TINY -inoperable- boxes of a WQVGA screen.
Next, I found PJC_HTCHome.cab that delivers a properly readable screen ..... but ONLY with its built-in theme/icons. HHC (themes) does not operate properly with it, AND I saw that it stores its settings in different area of the registry.
Further I noted that using SecondToday was promising, but would NOT allow my agenda to be 'picked' on the second screen.
TF3D (when active) shows next agenda-item in too small a format, cannot be adjusted with either the Advanced-Configuration tool nor the DiamondTF3D config tool.
So... at the moment I have TF3D disables, and have PJC_HTChome on the 'primary' start screen (there, it IS showing the agenda item in a readable format).
I have SecondToday showing WLM, and BatteryStatus
Somehow in the process, I have lost the ability to QuickLaunch the AudioManager.
Perhaps that has a dependency on TF3D running ??
Status: Still no alternative themes for either TF3D, nor HTChome, and no properly working configuration manager.
I agree, which is why I dumped TF3D in the first place.
I have tried a few Mobile Shell themes and all have a few quirks in them, but on the whole they are getting better. there just aren't enough of them in VGA format
*sigh* ok, here we go again.. I've got hold of a few old games that run in qvga, my xda zest is native vga.
I can turn the screen landscape.. are there any apps or settings I can change that force qvga games to run stretched vga landscape mode?
A simple yes or no will do
edit: what's this "ResSwitch" tool i've heard about on a few posts on other threads?
edit2: MyVGA (http://myvga.sourceforge.net/) is there something like this that's more of a generic app?
nobody fancy replying??
as far as I know there is no generic way of doing it
not even sure if there is a general stretched way of doing it
most people settle for programs like wvgafix which just only use
the res the program was made for part of the screen
Hey folks!!
The question is: Can I use some cooked Clocks for TF3D (Diamond) with my Leo? For examples please click here.
Looking forward for your knowledge
Good morning...and *up*!
Diamond is a QVGA device and Leo is a WVGA device, what do you think????
speed200 said:
Diamond is a QVGA device and Leo is a WVGA device, what do you think????
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The Diamond is a VGA device. See here. I know, cos it was my 1st HTC device and I LOVED it!
Anyway, in answer to the OP, I don't think the clocks will work as Sense and TouchFlo are different things, so I reckon the Manila files would (probably) have different names. Other than that, they may be compatible.
I suggest you ask someone who makes clocks for Sense, like dragon_soft (for example), OP of this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601552
johncmolyneux said:
The Diamond is a VGA device. See here. I know, cos it was my 1st HTC device and I LOVED it!
Anyway, in answer to the OP, I don't think the clocks will work as Sense and TouchFlo are different things, so I reckon the Manila files would (probably) have different names. Other than that, they may be compatible.
I suggest you ask someone who makes clocks for Sense, like dragon_soft (for example), OP of this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601552
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It was a typing mistake , i wanted to say VGA device.
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It was a typing mistake , i wanted to say VGA device.
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Well in that case, I still have to correct you
Most VGA software IS compatible with WVGA, especially theme changes. When I moved from a Touch Diamond to a Touch HD, I kept all the theme mods and just applied them. I'd say 95% of them worked. The only ones that wouldn't work were things that relied on the vertical resolution (in portrait). Obviously, the screen was still 480 pixels wide, just 160 pixels higher! So, if it was still TouchFlo and not Sense, the clock mods would work.
Anyway, I've said my piece
Thank you very much for your answers guys, you´ve enlarged my knowledge
I´ve opened up a request now, if there´s another soul that´s interested in this! (My interest is focused on the android clock).