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Upgrade from VOX- Move to PPC or Smartphone ?

I am using my VOX for almost one and half years and I am feeling like upgrading to a more recent product. Since many of you are having a wide experience of using PPC I would request you to suggest my next upgrade as to whether to go for a PPC or remain in smartphone. My thinkings/doubts apprehensions are as follows:
1) I am being allured by Touch varieties of WINMO, the reason being, bigger screens, smart looks and above all the wide availability of softwares both in numbers as well as variety. In fact I love to install various apps to my phones and enjoy fiddling with them.
2)UI or Touch Operation : Though I have recently purchased a Nokia 5800 and I have quite well adapted myself fully on Symbian touch screens. I would like to know what are the advices/experiences of actual users in WINMO. By the way the TouchFlow3D/2D attracts me very much and I like the kinetic scrolling and gesture control of WINMO devices.
3)Although it is pretty sure that I will go for HTC (of course due to this huge and unique support of XDA-DEVELOPERS) is there any other practically viable alternative?
4)The battery lives of WINMOs are generally poorer than symbian etc. What about battery lives of PPC in comparison to Smartphone (WinMOs)?
Thanks

Hey
I can't answer all your questions, but here are my 2 cents:
For battery life the s710 is awesome. Online reviews of other phones will tell you what to expect from a new phone, you'll have to do the research.
Personally, I wanted my phone to be a PHONE with internet,etc on the side.....rather than a mini-internet browser with some phone functionality on the side (if you see what I mean), which is why I went for an s710.
The next best option I see is this, and I was considering this for myself at one point: http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=161302
Basically I think you'll have to decide what you want out of the phone. Do you want to be fiddling with a stylus to send texts? Ive been told touchscreens won't work out if its drizzling outside and specks of water are splashing on the screen. Touchscreen is cool, it's just not as precise as a keypad.
There are loads of advantages to PPC's (many of which you know). You'll just have to figure out what suits you personally.
(also there's no alternative to doing the leg work.....if you want to find the best deal out there, you'll have to do the research).
Oh and also, if you find something cool let me know.....

What about the HTC Hero?
http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/26104/1/

romskii said:
What about the HTC Hero?
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Hero is a Android phone which I am interested in. I will only restrict my choice within WinMO.

I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX

I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX

FeareX said:
I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX
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It is a worthy choice. I was thinking of HTC Touch Diamond2,

parthabhatta said:
It is a worthy choice. I was thinking of HTC Touch Diamond2,
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It sure is!
The diamond 2 has almost the same features, only no keyboard. And since the Vox i don't think i can live without
But it's all up to you

If I could design my own phone...

Maybe this phone exists somewhere but if so, I haven't found it - and not for lack of searching. It all started with a 2007 Shadow. I loved the slim size and slide-out form factor, could live with WinMo if I had to but hated the 2.0 mp camera and non-touch screen.
I've tried the Incite, the Kaiser and currently use a G1 for day to day but none of them made me as happy as my Shadow. Part of it's because if I need to make a call I don't like the touch screen dialer. Another factor is the Blackberry-like keyboard arrangement on the Shadow - I really liked it. (I could never master texting using the usual numeric keys.) It's too cumbersome to pop out the G1 or Tilt keyboard, especially dealing with stupid automated phone systems.
I like HTC phones a lot because of the community but am beginning to wonder if somewhere out there is a phone better suited for me. I'd like to stay in the Android fold but does anyone have any suggestions? Has to be GSM and unlockable because I use a weird local carrier, too, although I might consider going back to Sprint (gag) for the perfect phone.
Terry

The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.

chambo622 said:
The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.
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I played with a Pre at a local kiosk and was impressed by how nice it was but not enough better than the G1 to go back to Sprint. Now if the GSM version becomes more affordable and available, maybe...
Thanks,
Terry - now if I could just do a camera transplant on a touch dual

It would be something like this:
VGA 4" screen
From factor like HTC Universal
2ghz processor
1gb RAM
Hardware keyboard
Slim nice design
Made by HTC
A mix of Universal, Rhodium and Leo
I guess I have to wait till 2011 or 2012...

I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.

jez83uk said:
I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.
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It is so very close, but I'm spoiled by the ability to do bar code scanning with the G1. AFAIK, the 2.0 cameras can't do that - which is why I made the comment about the camera transplant. I guess I could look into the port a little closer to see if they made it work or not.
Terry

HTC Tilt 2 or Telstra HTC HD2? upgrading from HTC FUZE

hey everyone, well im on the stretch for hopefully getting a new phone, question is, which device will be very worth upgrading from my FUZE?
Telstra HTC HD2(with AT&T 3G bands) or HTC Tilt 2
would be best if actual owners can help me out but everyone can give their input as well
[main question]what device has a better battery life??
will the HD2 be able to handle at least 5 hours of music playback since it will substitute for my ipod? or will the tilt 2 have a better advantage?
and how well is it to type on the HD2s screen compare to Tilt 2's hardware keyboard?
finally if possible please tell me what advantages & disadvantages do both of these devices have
money is NOT a factor here and im still keeping up with WinMo btw
looking forward to reading everyones answers thanks

XERO_Racer said:
and how well is it to type on the HD2s screen compare to Tilt 2's hardware keyboard?
im still keeping up with WinMo btw
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Coming form Raphael, the natural upgrade will be Rhodium, a great device!
Leo have bigger screen and faster processor.
Rhodium have a real keyboard and multiconference (more buissness device)
On my opinion, typing on a real hardware keyboard will never beaten by any super multi capacity, ultra resisitive, super dooper on screen virtual keyboard (at least in a while)
Same here, staying with WM also, it´s a hate-love relation

Phone & PDA in one

Hi all, newbie here looking for advice and opinions.
I currently have a phone and a separate PDA, a Palm m515. The PDA is reaching the end of its (useful) life now, so I am considering a combined phone and PDA, I use the PDA for taking short notes such as shopping lists, price lists and things to do.
I have sought advice from Vodafone shop and Carphone Warehouse but the staff seemed pretty clueless as to what would meet my needs,
I have been thinking about one of the HTC phones, but obviously am open to suggestions. Also ideally I would like to back up (sync) the notes to my pc.

Welcome to forums
What about this?

Nice but bulky, although very impressive
I would prefer something smaller which is why I was considering something from HTC or similar. Often carry a laptop anyway so UMPC functions aren't needed, just something for quick note taking.

HTC
Then Shift, Athena, Universal or Rhodium...

I would of course recommend the Rhodium, but if you really only need the device to jot down notes with a stylus, probably should get something without a hardware keyboard.

hexpert said:
Hi all, newbie here looking for advice and opinions.
I currently have a phone and a separate PDA, a Palm m515. The PDA is reaching the end of its (useful) life now, so I am considering a combined phone and PDA, I use the PDA for taking short notes such as shopping lists, price lists and things to do.
I have sought advice from Vodafone shop and Carphone Warehouse but the staff seemed pretty clueless as to what would meet my needs,
I have been thinking about one of the HTC phones, but obviously am open to suggestions. Also ideally I would like to back up (sync) the notes to my pc.
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Welcome to the forums
Just about any Windows Mobile device currently on the market fits your needs. What you need to consider (and tell us your opinions on if you want us to give you recommendations) are things like your price range, whether or not you want a physical keyboard and what else you would want to do with it (ie. WiFi, 3G etc.).
You might also want to think about Android, which many people now prefer to WM (although synchronising notes to Outlook wouldn't be easy, if at all possible).

orb3000 said:
Then Shift, Athena, Universal or Rhodium...
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Thanks for the replys.
ORB3000, below are the phones offered by providers here.
HTC Touch P3452
HTC Touch Pro2
HTC Legend
HTC Desire
HTC HD2
are the only HTC phones stocked here and available to me on contract.
Will probably use GPS on occasion, want WI-FI if possible, not worried about hardware keyboard.
Going to look at them again today so will update later on tonight.

How important is having a stylus to you? If it is not important get the HD2.

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How important is having a stylus to you? If it is not important get the HD2.
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Stylus isn't vital, but I do find it easier to type with, although in my case I always use the M515 on-screen keyboard as the Grafitti function is a pain to use.

hexpert said:
Stylus isn't vital, but I do find it easier to type with, although in my case I always use the M515 on-screen keyboard as the Grafitti function is a pain to use.
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Well, from what I hear at least, typing on the HD2 is quite easy because of its big screen. But since it is capacitive stylus's don't work with it.
If those phones you listed are your only choices, then this should be easy.
Forget the HTC Touch P3452, it is too old to be seriously considered at this point.
If a stylus is important to you, and especially if you think a hardware keyboard might come in handy, get the Touch Pro 2.
If you don't care about those features, then the only choice you need to make is whether you want an Android phone, or a WinMo one.
If Android, get the Desire.
If WinMo get the HD2.

Darn !! Had my decision made, now I find out android 2.2 is coming out soon. Anyone know if I can buy the phone now and then upgrade (for free) later on?

HTC Rhodium vs. HTC HD2

you may be thinking of course the HD2 is better because of its processor speed.
well do you really need a 1ghz processor because the rhodium apparently runs fine running the hd2 system. also the rhodium has a slide out keyboard. but i if you are thinking that i'm just taking the rhodium's side i'm not because there is some better things about the hd2 like the screen and the thinness etc.
Thanks

Well a lot of people form the rodhium go to the hd2. The 1 GHZ is really noticable with a touchpro 2 there is much more lag etc. Wich really downgrade the user expierce. On a rodium evrything run a lot slower. You need take care of the ram etc. In my opinion the 1 ghz it is not something extra it is really useful. For the rest the hd2 is more future proof. The populairity says enough why there are not so much tp2 users.

but it is a lot lot lot easier to type on the hard keyboard.

Zac.Santer said:
but it is a lot lot lot easier to type on the hard keyboard.
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That was exactly my concern (and it was a big one!), but I finally gave in and decided to try the HD2 for the 2-week period that Tmobile allows here in the states. I had extreme reservations about switching to the on-screen keyboard...but after getting comfortable with swype, I can say that I'm at about 80-90% of the texting speed I could achieve with the hardware qwerty, and the ease of one-handed typing and the loss of bulk MORE than make up for that little bit of difference, for me anyway.
The HD2 also affords you sooo much more "breathing room" with the increased memory and proc speed compared to the Rhodium...it really is great to not have to worry all the time about installing or running too many things at once like I had to on my TP2. I still keep it around for tweaking/testing/playing, but I can honestly say I've never once felt the need to go back to it, even when it comes to typing.
But, it's definitely an individual choice...among those of us who moved from the TP2 to HD2, a bunch are thrilled with the new hardware, but many also opted to ditch it and go back. So...try the HD2 for a little bit if you have the option, especially with swype, and see what you think

thanks thats changed my view

Zac.Santer said:
thanks thats changed my view
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I might also suggest browsing the HD2 (Leo) forums here too, just to get an idea of what different things users are experiencing etc

Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please

orb3000 said:
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please
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You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day

jan-willem3 said:
You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
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Yes "orb3000" is actually the name of a secret government project where normal lab rats and copy editors were surgically enhanced with bionic thumbs.

jan-willem3 said:
You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
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Really?
sirphunkee said:
Yes "orb3000" is actually the name of a secret government project where normal lab rats and copy editors were surgically enhanced with bionic thumbs.
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Right, actually I,m the most advanced prototype of humanoid with 4hands

I take the Rhodium anytime. I'd rather wait for the new Touch Pro.

I give my vote to the Rhodium.
When my Raphael brake down (a bath in Sprite) i was able to choice between HD2 and Rhodium, I was able to test HD2 which move allot more faster and it's cheaper (in my country) and the rhodium who has the almost "orgasmic" keyboard, my choice was Rhodium and I love this phone.

I have both devices.......
Both are excellent PDAs........
HD2's advantage: SPEED.....very little lag. Having owned several WM devices I never had a device faster
Rhodium's advantage: Keyboard. If you been using PDAs with keyboard, it will take some time to get used to the HD2
Overall I have to pick the HD2.......

HD2 for the capacitive screen. Resistive screens are lame. I thought resistive screens were pretty cool when they were the only ones I had (XPERIA X1), but as soon as I tried a capacitive there was no going back.
Personally for me I type (barely) faster on Swype than I could on the Rhodium's keyboard, so I'd never take it with that extra bulk. Did I mention the resistive screen?
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.

if you haven't voted yet think about the price the rhodium is so much cheaper about 100 pounds

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okkk.... i'm not sure how that fits in with the poll but there you go! if you want to unlock your rhodium or your hd2 he's the man

orb3000 said:
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please
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friend'scatdied said:
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
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Really?

friend'scatdied said:
HD2 for the capacitive screen. Resistive screens are lame. I thought resistive screens were pretty cool when they were the only ones I had (XPERIA X1), but as soon as I tried a capacitive there was no going back.
Personally for me I type (barely) faster on Swype than I could on the Rhodium's keyboard, so I'd never take it with that extra bulk. Did I mention the resistive screen?
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
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I had no idea HD2 has a capacitive screen! I guess I'm a little behind on that. My vote went to the Rhodium, mostly because of the keyboard and maybe some other little features.
I'm definitely considering trying out the HD2. Ithink I'll wait for more 1Ghz Snapdragon Phones to come out later on this year or early next year instead of switching to the HD2. I'm also hoping by that time the Android development for Rhodium will be at least close to fully operational.

In this day & age (21st century) you need to have 1Ghz Snapdragon or greater cpu!