Im going to upgrade from my MDA and was wondering what the main differences are between the KAISER and the ZINC.
So far i noticed the Kaiser has a 3mp camera compared to Zinc's 2mp.
It also appears that the ZINC has a faster processor?
Has anyone ever used both and noticed a difference in speed between the two??
Does anyone know if one is noticably smaller than the other??
I like the way the Kaiser looks over the ZINC although ive never seen the ZINC in person. I like the KAISER for its built in gps and 3mp camera. However the only reason im considering the ZINC over the KAISER is because it has a faster processor according to its specs.
Are there any other advantages to getting the ZINC over the KAISER?
Any opinions on what phone you would prefer and why would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!
I think the Xscale on the Zinc actually has 520 MHz for everything, while the Qualcomm 400MHz of the Kaiser actually has separate "mini-cores" for every process, yielding to faster Kaiser. Hardware aside, my Zinc felt only slightly faster than my old 838pro, though my 838pro was slightly more stable. the kaiser beats the zinc in stability and also speed, imo.
hmm alrite cool thanks for your response!! i think im definately going to go with the kaiser than.. unless anyone else has any other opinions about why i might not want to..
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From all the specs I read, it looks like a great piece of equipment:
- quad-band (useful for me)
- 802.11 b/g (at last!!!). Wonder if WPA/WPA2 is supported, and PSK and/or 802.1x
-full-size SDIO
- Size looks to be between Magician and Himalaya (good enough for me!)
- BT 1.2 supported
- WM5.0...
So if anyone has anything to say about Eten in general and on the M600 in particular, I'd be glad to hear.
Cheers,
Hal
BTW, can be found here:
http://www.expansys.fr/product.asp?code=127430
i was looking at one of these too. This looks like one sexxy handset!
not 4 me.
crappy samsung cpu, 64mb ram and useless 802.11g(it will take tons of energy if used)...
Qtek 2020i still the best.
not 4 me.
crappy samsung cpu, 64mb ram and useless 802.11g(it will take tons of energy if used)...
Qtek 2020i still the best.
I played with an Eten at Modaco.
Nice device, but fairly plasticy, unlike the aluminium sheathed godliness of HTC's stuff.
Nice to have the competition though. However, If i was going for a non HTC, I'd wait for the Atom = perkier.
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hal said:
From all the specs I read, it looks like a great piece of equipment:
- quad-band (useful for me)
- 802.11 b/g (at last!!!). Wonder if WPA/WPA2 is supported, and PSK and/or 802.1x
-full-size SDIO
- Size looks to be between Magician and Himalaya (good enough for me!)
- BT 1.2 supported
- WM5.0...
So if anyone has anything to say about Eten in general and on the M600 in particular, I'd be glad to hear.
Cheers,
Hal
BTW, can be found here:
http://www.expansys.fr/product.asp?code=127430
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Hal,
Do you know where this product can be purchased with a new abbonement in France?
mogwai
As an owner of imate JAM and after reading all that about the warranty on blue angel and stuff I am going forward and I ll be ordering an ETEN M600 this monday morning!
At least it has full size SD and it supports SDIO!!!!
As for the quality mentioned above nothing can be worse than the firming on JAM. Have you seen the battery cover of the JAM???? How many of you have a jam that its colour didn't came off? Mine is becoming grey after the silver has gone in the back!
Anyway as for the samsung processor just think that K-JAM has the 200MHz version of it while M600 has the 400MHz one and I ve seen some benchmarks on the net showing clearly that tha 400MHz Samsung is faster in many tests than the Intel 416MHz located inside my JAM. At least msmobiles in their recent review say that skype works flawless something I never managed to see on my JAM or my friend's PDA2k.
So I will make a small review as soon as I lay my hands on it sometime after 5th of December.
And admins please create an area for ETEN users too.
I've seen the E-ten m500 (300 MHz Samsung CPU) in action and must say that I was really impressed.
Scrolling of navigation cards (Navigon Mobile Navigator 5.1) almost in real-time.
You'll need at least 416/520 MHz Intel CPU to achieve same results.
Don't know about battery life though.
Sascha
Sabo M500 has exactly the same processor with M600 and its clocked at 400MHz. I also saw an M500 and it was really fast and smoother than my JAM. Let me get my hands on M600 and I will let you all know how good it is!
Too bad there is no keyboard!!
The missing keyboard is one of the advantages of my M600 for me! :lol: :wink:
M600 in FR and lack of keyboard
Ok, I confess, I couldn't hold it anymore: I bought a K-Jam WWE while in Dubai last week.
First impression: not slower than BA/HIMA running WM5 (I have both - BA has dead screen now...).
It is the right size for me.
I tend to hate the keyboards, having been on Palm since 1995... The BA keyboard was laughable! But the on on K-Jam is real cool.
Keep feedback on M600 pouring please, I still find it's a nice piece of equipment!
My 2c,
Hal.
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You are welcome on our forum:
http://www.eten-users.net/
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I've seen the E-ten m500 (300 MHz Samsung CPU) in action and must say that I was really impressed.
Sascha
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M500 has a 400mhz cpu
I had (still have, in fact) a Magician (JAM) till about 3 days back when after careful comparison of the various alternatives available (I wanted a WiFi pocket pc phone that was stable and fast) I bought the Eten M600.
Compared to my friends K-JAMs and JAMINs this one is really stable and fast. I can skype away happily on the M600 while my friends struggle to start up skype on their JAMINs. I make calls on Skype while they listen to garbage trying to make one.
Eten rocks, and at a price that $150 cheaper (including a free 1GB SD Card) than the JAMIN its too good a deal to ignore. @ HTC - competition has arrived, and in style!
Hey guys can someone help me out. I'm really confused which one amoung these two HTC TyTN II or HP IPAQ 610c sholud i go for. I love both the models. Can someone suggest which one is the best. HP IPAQ 610c will be releasing this october.
Question is: do you wan to have PDA integrated in a phone or Do you wan to have Phone integrated in a PDA.
I would go with HTC TyTN II which is HTC_kaiser
TytnII FTW
It has a full keyboard, the same quality cam and amount of ram
the kaiser is slightly less powerfull (520mhz verses 400mhz) but thats not really noticiable, specially if theres a overclocker coming
I like the IPAQ 600 because of its flash/led light (needed to take pictures by night)
Hi
I was also waiting since 2-3 weeks the new HTC TC, I was intersested because it had everything I wanted (except a SIRF Star III chipset).
I'm asking myself now if I will not buy instead the new ETEN Glofiish X 800 who except a 2MPixels camera (in place of a 3 MPixel for the HTC TC) has not only a better GPS receiver (Sirf starIII) but also a much better screen (VGA 640x480 in place of QVGA 320X240) , a faster processor 500 MHz for the Eten vs 400 MHZ for the HTC and a better battery 1530 mAh vs 1350 mAh for the HTC.
And it seems that the ETEN will also be cheaper than the Touch Cruise....
What do you think ? ETEN GLOFIISH X800 or HTC TC ..? Wait or not wait ?
Christian
Belgium
With respect to SIRF Star III, if you use Tomtom it doesn't support the additional capabilities of the chip (I contacted Tomtom for this), besides, the HTC Cruise got the fix much faster then with my MIO A201 wich has a SIRF Star III chipset. I compared these two PDA's to figure out the diferences with respect to navigation using Tomtom.
Although the X500 has a higher clock processor, it is actually much slower than the Kaiser/Polaris because it doesn't have a dedicated gfx processor - so all gfx processing (and don't forget its 640x480) has to be done by the main CPU which makes even simple things like scrolling very slow.
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Although the X500 has a higher clock processor, it is actually much slower than the Kaiser/Polaris because it doesn't have a dedicated gfx processor - so all gfx processing (and don't forget its 640x480) has to be done by the main CPU which makes even simple things like scrolling very slow.
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Kaiser and Polaris DO have a GFX processor but they DON'T have drivers for it at the moment....
So they won't be any faster until we can get those drivers.
Compared to my SIRF Star III gps receiver the Cruise is just as good. Get's a faster fix and has just as many satelites. No major differences there, so there is nothing for you to worry in that department.
The X800 is a nice device as well. It's also VGA which could be something you like where the cruise is qvga.
But! from what I've read it feels kinda slow. Mainly because of the VGA resolution and that there is only 64mb RAM in the device. There where the cruise has 128mb ram.
Also for the future the gfx processing might be something to consider. There where the Cruise could get support for it at some point the X800 will never get that. Take into consideration that it's VGA instead of qvga ánd only has 64mb RAM I think the Cruise is the better choice here.
At least that was my conclusion when I was thinking about getting the X800 or the Cruise. In the end I was 100% sure to get the Cruise and so far it hasn't let me down as well. I'm quite happy with it, only hoping on some better video driver support.
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What do you think ? ETEN GLOFIISH X800 or HTC TC ..? Wait or not wait?
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After long struggle with myself I decided not to buy any Eten (considered X500+, X800 and M800) due to small amount of available memory.
So I wanted iMate Ultimate 9502, but it seems not available in Europe.
Therefore, since I need GPS, HTC TC, even if it's QVGA... TyTN II is simply too heavy... and I'm not sure I need keyboard.
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Kaiser and Polaris DO have a GFX processor but they DON'T have drivers for it at the moment....
So they won't be any faster until we can get those drivers.
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Don't be confused (or to confuse others) about video drivers and gfx drivers.
Kaiser and Polaris don't have proper video drivers (DirectX), but the dedicated gfx processor does function correctly for 2D acceleration.
And the X800 is very slow.
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Don't be confused (or to confuse others) about video drivers and gfx drivers.
Kaiser and Polaris don't have proper video drivers (DirectX), but the dedicated gfx processor does function correctly for 2D acceleration.
And the X800 is very slow.
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SLOW¡¡¡????
X800 IS THE SLOWEST PDA I HAVE USED, YOU MUST DO A SOFR RESET EACH 2 HOURS TO USE IT NORMALLY...
I don't know what should I buy... htc cruise or asus p750... I know specifications but I don't know what is better quality
does anyone even have a p750 how can we know the quality
a bit smaller screen
phone keyboard
more classic phone look
are how it differs from polaris
Get the Asus if:
You need a practical phone for everyday use.
We do not know how good it is as is not out just yet, but the 520MHz processor sounds really good, shame about the 2mp camera
Get Touch Cruise if:
You love gadgets and like to fiddle and experiment on them.
From me, a PPC user, I would say that TC has not contestant at the moment. I might get a Eten V900 when it comes out in April but not because is better than TC, but because I love PPCs
Good luck
htc cruise vs asus p750
Thank you for your answers, but in my country I can buy already this device. I know that a screen is small and asus has less RAM than TC, but asus has stronger processor, at last, which of them is faster? The TC is PPC and why Asus isn't?
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Thank you for your answers, but in my country I can buy already this device. I know that a screen is small and asus has less RAM than TC, but asus has stronger processor, at last, which of them is faster? The TC is PPC and why Asus isn't?
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Don't keep staring at CPU specs, don't forget that Eten Glofiish X800 also has more CPU than Touch Cruise, but that the X800 is A LOT slower.
I know, but on the other forums I red that:
Asus P750
CPU index 2143.53
File system index 348.88
Graphics index 4173.88
ActiveSync index 4214.58
Spb Benchmark index 781.7
Htc cruise
CPU index 1513.45
File system index 149.84
Graphics index 3490.21
ActiveSync index 4902.05
Spb Benchmark index 382.37
so,is it probable that the memory RAM hasn't influence?
...and battery is better and I saw a film at Youtube that the GPS is very slow at the TC
of course.... Eten glofiish x800 is very shame, maybe V900...
I'm a bit confused here and I'm sure you experts can help.
I've been watching videos of the Kaiser and have been impressed with how much better it runs Slingplayer than my Diamond.
I've tried lots of ROMs and none have resulted in the Slingplayer software running as well as I saw it on the Kaiser Youtube clip.
The CPU Clock on the Diamond is faster and since it is the same manufacturer I'd have thought it would be a more powerful CPU.
Given that the Diamond has more RAM why does the Kaiser give the impression that it is more "powerful" than the Diamond .
Is it more "powerful"? If so why?
Thanks in advance.
Some argue that due to the Diamond having 4x as much resolution, the processor should be 4x as powerful as the Kaiser to achieve the same performance. I personally believe this to be a flawed argument for the simple reason that the HTC Universal was VGA too and it can achieve lightning fast speeds equivalent and faster than Kaiser. It has a 520Mhz Intel processor, but has a meager RAM of 64MB! A ROM just needs time to idealise. My Elfin is more faster than my Diamond at the moment. As I say, just give it a little time to perfect.
Interesting. Does the Diamond and other WM devices really have this adaptive capability. I agree about the VGA issue. I had thought about it but forgot about it briefly when posting. It begs the question, can the Diamond be made to run QVGA? I'd prefer it as VGA seems overkill on such asmall screen (IMHO of course )
It's not so much the phones having an adaptive capability so much as it is ROMs being adapted to the phones.
As for your question about VGA, then I do not know, though if such a thing was possible I would be shocked that I didn't know about it up till now (even though I wouldn't have any intention of utilising such a program).
Surprised what you say about the Universal achieving lightning speeds, mine is really stodgy and slow with a 6.1 rom as well!
Any more thoughts on this matter?